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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: BIRD</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-5761</link>
		<dc:creator>BIRD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BIG BUSINESS ROUND-DOWN&lt;/strong&gt;

 The Register provides a good roundup of issues that have and continue to affect us many millions of DELL customers ("Want to Complaint About DELL? Forget it") (DELL has closed it's so-called 'customer service' forums on thier "customer" website...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BIG BUSINESS ROUND-DOWN</strong></p>
<p> The Register provides a good roundup of issues that have and continue to affect us many millions of DELL customers (&#8221;Want to Complaint About DELL? Forget it&#8221;) (DELL has closed it&#8217;s so-called &#8216;customer service&#8217; forums on thier &#8220;customer&#8221; website&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven I. Weiss</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven I. Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumsfeld was also saying "war on terror" in recent days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumsfeld was also saying &#8220;war on terror&#8221; in recent days.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a good point about criminals aiming to enrich themselves, but oddly enough, it's turned out that was exactly what the IRA have been doing all along, robbing banks, extorting money from shops, smuggling and so forth. 

Perhaps the leaders of Al Qaeda have a political aim.  It's very fuzzy, and if we met their demands there would be new ones.   The suicide bombers must be very confused at best.  Can't we at least agree that they are criminally insane?

They want us to declare War on them.  It makes them important.  It gives them dignity.  It gives them supporters, recruits,  slots an Al Jezeera.  It gives them purpose  and glory enough to blow themselves up in some cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good point about criminals aiming to enrich themselves, but oddly enough, it&#8217;s turned out that was exactly what the IRA have been doing all along, robbing banks, extorting money from shops, smuggling and so forth. </p>
<p>Perhaps the leaders of Al Qaeda have a political aim.  It&#8217;s very fuzzy, and if we met their demands there would be new ones.   The suicide bombers must be very confused at best.  Can&#8217;t we at least agree that they are criminally insane?</p>
<p>They want us to declare War on them.  It makes them important.  It gives them dignity.  It gives them supporters, recruits,  slots an Al Jezeera.  It gives them purpose  and glory enough to blow themselves up in some cases.</p>
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		<title>By: AvengingAngel</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>AvengingAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call it what you will - GWOT, G-SAVE or even G-SPOT - what the United States needs isn't a different slogan but a different strategy to defeat Al Qaeda.

The United States, after all, is not engaged in a twilight struggle against a concept, but against Al Qaeda.

For more, see:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000228.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;"The Global War on Error"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call it what you will - GWOT, G-SAVE or even G-SPOT - what the United States needs isn&#8217;t a different slogan but a different strategy to defeat Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>The United States, after all, is not engaged in a twilight struggle against a concept, but against Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>For more, see:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000228.htm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Global War on Error&#8221;</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: NameWithheld</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>NameWithheld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owl, I would agree with you that I do not want to live under Sharia law. I also don't want to live under Bible law. Do you agree with me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owl, I would agree with you that I do not want to live under Sharia law. I also don&#8217;t want to live under Bible law. Do you agree with me?</p>
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		<title>By: owl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep to RightNumberOne's explanation.  They intend to rule not just their world but ours with Sharia.  Only look at Canada, already there.   Invade with slow immigration, quietly, as with Europe.  It is political.   It is a WAR.  Problem is that too many of our "good allies" and even good Americans refuse to understand that it can't be handled as usual.   They say we can't kill them all.  I say we better darn sure try to get every single one of them on our soil.  And let them know we will soon be coming over  to a plot of land,  near them, until they stop.  Fools are the ones that think any of it is going to stop anytime within the near future.  It is a world war so beware of the quiet times or the false security.  They grew very strong in the 90s.  They invaded a lot of land.  They infiltrated a lot of governments.

All that said, I still hate to give them the title terrorists.  Prefer Death Squads or Killer Maggots.  Works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep to RightNumberOne&#8217;s explanation.  They intend to rule not just their world but ours with Sharia.  Only look at Canada, already there.   Invade with slow immigration, quietly, as with Europe.  It is political.   It is a WAR.  Problem is that too many of our &#8220;good allies&#8221; and even good Americans refuse to understand that it can&#8217;t be handled as usual.   They say we can&#8217;t kill them all.  I say we better darn sure try to get every single one of them on our soil.  And let them know we will soon be coming over  to a plot of land,  near them, until they stop.  Fools are the ones that think any of it is going to stop anytime within the near future.  It is a world war so beware of the quiet times or the false security.  They grew very strong in the 90s.  They invaded a lot of land.  They infiltrated a lot of governments.</p>
<p>All that said, I still hate to give them the title terrorists.  Prefer Death Squads or Killer Maggots.  Works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Yer Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>Yer Neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure who tried to change the label.  The Pentagon contains folks of all political persuasion, and they don't all agree.  Whatever.

Since words have meaning, lets be clear: it's a war.  The Islamists have told us so, and delivered on their threats more than a few times.  I say, take 'em at their words and let's don't hold back: they must be completely and violently defeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure who tried to change the label.  The Pentagon contains folks of all political persuasion, and they don&#8217;t all agree.  Whatever.</p>
<p>Since words have meaning, lets be clear: it&#8217;s a war.  The Islamists have told us so, and delivered on their threats more than a few times.  I say, take &#8216;em at their words and let&#8217;s don&#8217;t hold back: they must be completely and violently defeated.</p>
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		<title>By: W.J. Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>W.J. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Republican leaders are such spineless wimps that they're afraid to admit to "five more years of war," then the don't deserve to lead the "war on terror" and they don't deserve my vote.

The truth is that we are at war and will be for a long time, and any spineless politician who says otherwise -- and votes otherwise -- doesn't deserve to be re-elected to office.

Their main goal in the near future should be to budget more monies toward fighting terrorism, strenghtening the borders and reforming our intellience, not passing highway bills filled with pork.

We're probably doomed to destruction thanks to these selfish, wimpy political fools -- and thanks also to selfish, wimpy voters who want to ignore the obvious, even after 9/11 and 7/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Republican leaders are such spineless wimps that they&#8217;re afraid to admit to &#8220;five more years of war,&#8221; then the don&#8217;t deserve to lead the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; and they don&#8217;t deserve my vote.</p>
<p>The truth is that we are at war and will be for a long time, and any spineless politician who says otherwise &#8212; and votes otherwise &#8212; doesn&#8217;t deserve to be re-elected to office.</p>
<p>Their main goal in the near future should be to budget more monies toward fighting terrorism, strenghtening the borders and reforming our intellience, not passing highway bills filled with pork.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re probably doomed to destruction thanks to these selfish, wimpy political fools &#8212; and thanks also to selfish, wimpy voters who want to ignore the obvious, even after 9/11 and 7/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jaffa</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jaffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will always be terrorism.

Do we want to consider ourselves at-war forever?

We are at war in Afghanistana and Iraq.

The question is whether we want to regard ourselves as being at-war everywhere in the world, against anyone who engages in terrorism, forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will always be terrorism.</p>
<p>Do we want to consider ourselves at-war forever?</p>
<p>We are at war in Afghanistana and Iraq.</p>
<p>The question is whether we want to regard ourselves as being at-war everywhere in the world, against anyone who engages in terrorism, forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Exile</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not an attempt at PC, it's an acknowledgement that the war metaphor was never a good fit to begin with.  Jeff's favorite professor in the whole world &lt;a href="http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/war-on-terror-over-bush-administration.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;puts it best&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;em&gt;I take it this is because they have finally realized that if they are fighting a war on terror, the enemy is four guys in a gym in Leeds. It isn't going to take very long for people to realize that a) you don't actually need to pay the Pentagon $400 billion a year if that is the problem and b) whoever is in charge of such a war isn't actually doing a very good job at stopping the bombs from going off.&lt;/em&gt;

The Dauphin can say whatever he wants because apparently he enjoys living in a fantasy world where dinosaur bones were put in the ground as a test our of Christian faith.  But if the actual grownups beneath him are shrinking away calling this godawful response to 9/11 a war, the sea-change has already occurred.  

Make no mistake about it, the GOP is looking forward to the 2006 and 2008 elections with an increasing amount of queasiness in its collective belly.   "Another five years of war" won't win them any votes at the ballot box this time around, and they know it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not an attempt at PC, it&#8217;s an acknowledgement that the war metaphor was never a good fit to begin with.  Jeff&#8217;s favorite professor in the whole world <a href="http://www.juancole.com/2005/07/war-on-terror-over-bush-administration.html" rel="nofollow">puts it best</a>:</p>
<p><em>I take it this is because they have finally realized that if they are fighting a war on terror, the enemy is four guys in a gym in Leeds. It isn&#8217;t going to take very long for people to realize that a) you don&#8217;t actually need to pay the Pentagon $400 billion a year if that is the problem and b) whoever is in charge of such a war isn&#8217;t actually doing a very good job at stopping the bombs from going off.</em></p>
<p>The Dauphin can say whatever he wants because apparently he enjoys living in a fantasy world where dinosaur bones were put in the ground as a test our of Christian faith.  But if the actual grownups beneath him are shrinking away calling this godawful response to 9/11 a war, the sea-change has already occurred.  </p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, the GOP is looking forward to the 2006 and 2008 elections with an increasing amount of queasiness in its collective belly.   &#8220;Another five years of war&#8221; won&#8217;t win them any votes at the ballot box this time around, and they know it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RightNumberOne</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>RightNumberOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh,

The problem is that they are NOT criminals, they are terrorists.

Their only goal is the destruction of our form of government; so that they can impose their own form ... Sharia.

Terrorists are political creatures.

Criminals do not have politics as their goal; criminals have their own enrichment as their goal.

That's why we put criminals in the gaol; and we put terrorists in "heaven."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>The problem is that they are NOT criminals, they are terrorists.</p>
<p>Their only goal is the destruction of our form of government; so that they can impose their own form &#8230; Sharia.</p>
<p>Terrorists are political creatures.</p>
<p>Criminals do not have politics as their goal; criminals have their own enrichment as their goal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we put criminals in the gaol; and we put terrorists in &#8220;heaven.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hugh fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, the problem is that if you call it a War, that glorifies the terrorists and gives them legitimacy.  It makes it easier for them to recruit.  

They are criminals.  Criminals belong in gaol, not in heaven with all those virgins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, the problem is that if you call it a War, that glorifies the terrorists and gives them legitimacy.  It makes it easier for them to recruit.  </p>
<p>They are criminals.  Criminals belong in gaol, not in heaven with all those virgins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/03/a-war-indeed/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 04:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thank goodness that's settled.  I feel safer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thank goodness that&#8217;s settled.  I feel safer.</p>
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