Comments on: Blog junkets http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:43:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Progressive Traditionalist http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1951 Progressive Traditionalist Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:23:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1951 C-note and a bj. I'll start a blog just for you. C-note and a bj.
I’ll start a blog just for you.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1825 Andy Freeman Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:49:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1825 > I’m a retired daily newspaper editor and editorial page editor who frankly does not believe any newspaper editor, editorial page editor or reporter would have ethically accepted such unethical gifts. So, what ethical gifts do they accept? And, what is it that distinguishes ethical gifts from unethical ones? As CNN proved, you folks regularly sell your souls for access. I suppose that's better than giving them away to push an agenda, but you do that too. And you have the nerve to complain when others do the same. > I’m a retired daily newspaper editor and editorial page editor who frankly does not believe any newspaper editor, editorial page editor or reporter would have ethically accepted such unethical gifts.

So, what ethical gifts do they accept? And, what is it that distinguishes ethical gifts from unethical ones?

As CNN proved, you folks regularly sell your souls for access.

I suppose that’s better than giving them away to push an agenda, but you do that too.

And you have the nerve to complain when others do the same.

]]> By: Alan Kellogg http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1792 Alan Kellogg Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:21:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1792 Somebody wants to pay me to cover their event, they can pay me to cover their event. But, they need to be aware that I am not an honest politician. For that reason I expect any career I have as a flack would be rather short lived. My insistence on traveling by train isn't going to help matters any. :) Remember, your money buys my presence, it doesn't buy my loyalty. Somebody wants to pay me to cover their event, they can pay me to cover their event. But, they need to be aware that I am not an honest politician. For that reason I expect any career I have as a flack would be rather short lived.

My insistence on traveling by train isn’t going to help matters any. :)

Remember, your money buys my presence, it doesn’t buy my loyalty.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1775 Jeff Jarvis Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:35:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1775 I'm just quoting the AP. If you get an answer, please let me know. I’m just quoting the AP. If you get an answer, please let me know.

]]> By: Jerry C. Ausband http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1766 Jerry C. Ausband Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:38:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1766 I'd be interested in your telling me which newspaper editorial writers or editors accepted free transportation, as quoted by you from the Associated Press. And, yes, I'm asking AP, too. But you passed on the information as if it were fact; so you're culpable, too. I'm a retired daily newspaper editor and editorial page editor who frankly does not believe any newspaper editor, editorial page editor or reporter would have ethically accepted such unethical gifts. I’d be interested in your telling me which newspaper editorial writers or editors accepted free transportation, as quoted by you from the Associated Press. And, yes, I’m asking AP, too. But you passed on the information as if it were fact; so you’re culpable, too. I’m a retired daily newspaper editor and editorial page editor who frankly does not believe any newspaper editor, editorial page editor or reporter would have ethically accepted such unethical gifts.

]]> By: Tom Raftery http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1760 Tom Raftery Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:00:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1760 Jeff, we had a very similar discussion over the last few days - see: http://www.tomrafteryit.net/reasons-for-developing-paid-blog-post-ethics/ and the links within the post for more. Jeff,

we had a very similar discussion over the last few days – see:
http://www.tomrafteryit.net/reasons-for-developing-paid-blog-post-ethics/

and the links within the post for more.

]]> By: Dan King http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1758 Dan King Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:49:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1758 Could there be such a thing as a blog agent? I'll find junkets for willing bloggers and then collect a fee from the publicity-starved entity. My job will be to match up with what I think are the appropriate bloggers for the needy clients. It's win-win-win. Or maybe, I'll publish a monthly newsletter with available junkets that bloggers can subscribe to for a fee. If you feel like taking trip, I'll try to help you pay for it by blogging about a client at that destination. Could there be such a thing as a blog agent?

I’ll find junkets for willing bloggers and then collect a fee from the publicity-starved entity. My job will be to match up with what I think are the appropriate bloggers for the needy clients. It’s win-win-win.

Or maybe, I’ll publish a monthly newsletter with available junkets that bloggers can subscribe to for a fee. If you feel like taking trip, I’ll try to help you pay for it by blogging about a client at that destination.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1756 Richard Bennett Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:41:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1756 There's nothing dubious in that honor. There’s nothing dubious in that honor.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1753 Jeff Jarvis Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:26:58 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1753 Bennett: you have the surely dubious honor of being the guy who makes me laugh with your comments more than anyone. Bennett:
you have the surely dubious honor of being the guy who makes me laugh with your comments more than anyone.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1751 Richard Bennett Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:23:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1751 Faust wasn't a sincere sell-out, he intended to back out after getting all the goodies. That's never a sound plan, of course. Faust wasn’t a sincere sell-out, he intended to back out after getting all the goodies. That’s never a sound plan, of course.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1748 Jeff Jarvis Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:55:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1748 Richard: The punchlines are so plentiful: Who would buy you? And what would they do with you once they got you home? It's like buying a hungry doberman. And I saw all that with respect and affection! Couldn't help myself. But seriously, folks.... Yes, anything can be selling out. You can sell out when you take a job and have to do what the man pays you to do. You can sell out when you don't criticize someone so you still get invited to their party (or get their links, in our world). But whenver you sell out, it's never enough. Ask Faust. Richard:
The punchlines are so plentiful:
Who would buy you?
And what would they do with you once they got you home?
It’s like buying a hungry doberman.
And I saw all that with respect and affection!
Couldn’t help myself.
But seriously, folks….
Yes, anything can be selling out. You can sell out when you take a job and have to do what the man pays you to do. You can sell out when you don’t criticize someone so you still get invited to their party (or get their links, in our world). But whenver you sell out, it’s never enough. Ask Faust.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/11/blog-junkets/#comment-1747 Richard Bennett Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:44:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=236#comment-1747 You raise an interesting question: When a blogger sells out, how much should he get? Surely, selling out for the price of a plane ticket dishonors the whole blogger community and depresses wages, but demanding handsome compenstation raises the status of the community and rewards us all. I'll gladly sell out to anybody who makes me a sufficiently attractive offer, but so far nobody has. You raise an interesting question: When a blogger sells out, how much should he get? Surely, selling out for the price of a plane ticket dishonors the whole blogger community and depresses wages, but demanding handsome compenstation raises the status of the community and rewards us all.

I’ll gladly sell out to anybody who makes me a sufficiently attractive offer, but so far nobody has.

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