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	<title>Comments on: I unlearned everything I learned in kindergarten in j-school</title>
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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: ernest ramirez</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-136285</link>
		<dc:creator>ernest ramirez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some nice statements/for example, teach the students who show up...good point for presence is required for journalism to be real...thank you/09-18-2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some nice statements/for example, teach the students who show up&#8230;good point for presence is required for journalism to be real&#8230;thank you/09-18-2006</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Conde</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-2230</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Conde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this great post. I wanted to touch base with you about your last comment, which is the most important to me: the world needs more &quot;doers.&quot; Yes, and this begins with good thinking, and good re-thinking.  Doing requires risk-taking, confidence, and creativity.  I&#039;m new to blogging, the above address is my zine. My blog is located at http://mamacita.typepad.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great post. I wanted to touch base with you about your last comment, which is the most important to me: the world needs more &#8220;doers.&#8221; Yes, and this begins with good thinking, and good re-thinking.  Doing requires risk-taking, confidence, and creativity.  I&#8217;m new to blogging, the above address is my zine. My blog is located at <a href="http://mamacita.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://mamacita.typepad.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Butki</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Butki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote my response to Jay&#039;s piece here, explaining how his comments fit itno my career change from journalism to education:
http://www.scoopstories.typepad.com

Also I wanted to invite Jeff and everyone over for a debate about Fox and Outfoxed at my blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote my response to Jay&#8217;s piece here, explaining how his comments fit itno my career change from journalism to education:<br />
<a href="http://www.scoopstories.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoopstories.typepad.com</a></p>
<p>Also I wanted to invite Jeff and everyone over for a debate about Fox and Outfoxed at my blog</p>
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		<title>By: Stan DeVaughn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-2161</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan DeVaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a Internet access doesn&#039;t make somebody a &quot;journalist&quot; anymore than owning a wrench makes you a plumber, or knowing the ingredients of a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich makes you a chef.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a Internet access doesn&#8217;t make somebody a &#8220;journalist&#8221; anymore than owning a wrench makes you a plumber, or knowing the ingredients of a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich makes you a chef.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenton</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Focusing on the ethos behind what you do is important because it creates trust. That&#039;s one reason &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.craigslist.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Craig&#039;s List&lt;/a&gt; made out so well from the start. 

&quot;Journalism,&quot; right now, doesn&#039;t have much trust from anyone. We tolerate it. I trust anonymous posters on Craigslist far more than I trust most journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focusing on the ethos behind what you do is important because it creates trust. That&#8217;s one reason <a HREF="http://www.craigslist.org" rel="nofollow">Craig&#8217;s List</a> made out so well from the start. </p>
<p>&#8220;Journalism,&#8221; right now, doesn&#8217;t have much trust from anyone. We tolerate it. I trust anonymous posters on Craigslist far more than I trust most journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: EverKarl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/15/i-unlearned-everything-i-learned-in-kindergarten-in-j-school/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>EverKarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Alas, I used to teach that the world needs more critics; but it was an unexamined thing. Today I would say that the world has a limited tolerance for critics, and while it always needs more do-ers, it does not always need more chroniclers, pundits, or pencil-heads.&lt;/i&gt;

Jay Rosen: irony-free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Alas, I used to teach that the world needs more critics; but it was an unexamined thing. Today I would say that the world has a limited tolerance for critics, and while it always needs more do-ers, it does not always need more chroniclers, pundits, or pencil-heads.</i></p>
<p>Jay Rosen: irony-free!</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, journalism school is an oxymoron. The best journalists never attended one - Twain, Mencken, Mike Royko, Ernie Pyle, etc. A good journalist, be it anyone reporting any event, needs a sense of fairness, a lack of bias and the verbal talent to craft the facts in a readable manner. It&#039;s not rocket science. 

What is threatening to the professional journalist guild today is that talent is arising outside the guild on the internet, readership is flowing in that direction, and their monoply is eroding.

It can&#039;t happen fast enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, journalism school is an oxymoron. The best journalists never attended one &#8211; Twain, Mencken, Mike Royko, Ernie Pyle, etc. A good journalist, be it anyone reporting any event, needs a sense of fairness, a lack of bias and the verbal talent to craft the facts in a readable manner. It&#8217;s not rocket science. </p>
<p>What is threatening to the professional journalist guild today is that talent is arising outside the guild on the internet, readership is flowing in that direction, and their monoply is eroding.</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t happen fast enough.</p>
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