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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox News in Portland OR (Ch 12) is blood, guts, rape, pillage, black soot in the morning, gunfights, fire in the evening, drugs, meth, junkies...and thats just the first 20 minutes. Tey do devote 12 minutes to the news of the world (local, national, international). We&#039;ve given FOX the &quot;Deep ^&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox News in Portland OR (Ch 12) is blood, guts, rape, pillage, black soot in the morning, gunfights, fire in the evening, drugs, meth, junkies&#8230;and thats just the first 20 minutes. Tey do devote 12 minutes to the news of the world (local, national, international). We&#8217;ve given FOX the &#8220;Deep ^&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great.  So now our local broadcasts will have a few decent shows like Special Report, but will leave the remaining time for ad nauseum coverage of Holloway, Schiavo, and other pet causes.  I agree that there is a quality to SOME of Fox&#039;s coverage, but when they get on their soap box, I tune out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great.  So now our local broadcasts will have a few decent shows like Special Report, but will leave the remaining time for ad nauseum coverage of Holloway, Schiavo, and other pet causes.  I agree that there is a quality to SOME of Fox&#8217;s coverage, but when they get on their soap box, I tune out.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2873</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the Federalism labratory reaches the 4th estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the Federalism labratory reaches the 4th estate.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Angelos--I agree that he is the embodiment of the Christian right. But I said Christians--not the &quot;Christian Right&quot;. The &quot;Christian Right&quot; also does not represent us, nor does George Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Angelos&#8211;I agree that he is the embodiment of the Christian right. But I said Christians&#8211;not the &#8220;Christian Right&#8221;. The &#8220;Christian Right&#8221; also does not represent us, nor does George Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2802</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Robertson gets VERY high profile coverage on right-wing television, and is frequently a pundit on Fox.

He is the embodiment of the &quot;christian&quot; right.

See, the left has some extreme nutjobs too (Ward Churchill, eg), but WE ACTUALLY DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THEM!

On the right, the more bigoted and just plain wrong you are, the BETTER your odds of getting on Fox. 

That&#039;s what the &quot;fair and balanced&quot; network thrives on! How else to explain Malkin-lang-a-lang-a-ding-dong, O&#039;Reilly, etc. How else to explain Limbaugh? He doesn&#039;t even believe half the shit he says, he just needs to fill 4 hours somehow. So he spews hateful and ignorant lies, and the dittoheads he plays to just nod.

I tell you, PT Barnum was right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Robertson gets VERY high profile coverage on right-wing television, and is frequently a pundit on Fox.</p>
<p>He is the embodiment of the &#8220;christian&#8221; right.</p>
<p>See, the left has some extreme nutjobs too (Ward Churchill, eg), but WE ACTUALLY DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THEM!</p>
<p>On the right, the more bigoted and just plain wrong you are, the BETTER your odds of getting on Fox. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221; network thrives on! How else to explain Malkin-lang-a-lang-a-ding-dong, O&#8217;Reilly, etc. How else to explain Limbaugh? He doesn&#8217;t even believe half the shit he says, he just needs to fill 4 hours somehow. So he spews hateful and ignorant lies, and the dittoheads he plays to just nod.</p>
<p>I tell you, PT Barnum was right.</p>
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		<title>By: Epitome</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2795</link>
		<dc:creator>Epitome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™d rather get my news from an organization honest enough to admit its leanings.&quot;

Then why do you watch &#039;Fair and Balanced&#039; Fox News?

When Fox is brave enough to do away with the winks and the nudges and quell the open secret about it&#039;s political leanings I&#039;ll have more respect for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™d rather get my news from an organization honest enough to admit its leanings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why do you watch &#8216;Fair and Balanced&#8217; Fox News?</p>
<p>When Fox is brave enough to do away with the winks and the nudges and quell the open secret about it&#8217;s political leanings I&#8217;ll have more respect for it.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian man, please, please don&#039;t think that Pat Robertson represents the views of the average Christian. He&#039;s hung up on power and getting things to be the &quot;Christian&quot; way. Christ came to serve, not to take over. 

Here&#039;s some notes about the Rev. (What exactly he reveres is a whole different conversation)

http://www.politicalstrategy.org/ammo/ammorobertson_pat.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian man, please, please don&#8217;t think that Pat Robertson represents the views of the average Christian. He&#8217;s hung up on power and getting things to be the &#8220;Christian&#8221; way. Christ came to serve, not to take over. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some notes about the Rev. (What exactly he reveres is a whole different conversation)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicalstrategy.org/ammo/ammorobertson_pat.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicalstrategy.org/ammo/ammorobertson_pat.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2778</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Now our local Fox affiliates can advocate assasination of foreign leaders, just because they have the oil and won&#039;t give it to us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Now our local Fox affiliates can advocate assasination of foreign leaders, just because they have the oil and won&#8217;t give it to us!</p>
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		<title>By: Mumblix Grumph</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2743</link>
		<dc:creator>Mumblix Grumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our local network affiliates are notorious for putting reporters in front of buildings where something happened 8 hours before.

Sometimes they just make the reporter go stand on the roof of the studio so we can see the Seattle skyline in the background, since that just screams RELEVENCE and CARING.

The CBS affiliate tried &quot;News Out Of The Box&quot; a few years ago.  Basically the talking heads just milled around the studio like lost refugees as they delivered the headlines.  It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen.  The only thing I remember from that experiment is that one the &quot;trusted anchors&quot;  had been sitting on a stack of phone books behind the desk.  When he was forced to stand up on camera, he was about 5 foot 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our local network affiliates are notorious for putting reporters in front of buildings where something happened 8 hours before.</p>
<p>Sometimes they just make the reporter go stand on the roof of the studio so we can see the Seattle skyline in the background, since that just screams RELEVENCE and CARING.</p>
<p>The CBS affiliate tried &#8220;News Out Of The Box&#8221; a few years ago.  Basically the talking heads just milled around the studio like lost refugees as they delivered the headlines.  It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen.  The only thing I remember from that experiment is that one the &#8220;trusted anchors&#8221;  had been sitting on a stack of phone books behind the desk.  When he was forced to stand up on camera, he was about 5 foot 3.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2737</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicago Tribune liberal? I think you meant the Sun-Times. 

Big difference between Fox and Fox News. But I totally agree with you on Murdoch. 

MSNBC has brought in the names mentioned by Eric because they were/are getting it totally handed to them in the ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago Tribune liberal? I think you meant the Sun-Times. </p>
<p>Big difference between Fox and Fox News. But I totally agree with you on Murdoch. </p>
<p>MSNBC has brought in the names mentioned by Eric because they were/are getting it totally handed to them in the ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2729</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting with &quot;Married With Children&quot;, the Fox network has always been the leader in salacious programming.  So how can its critics claim that Fox is the mouthpiece of a right wing, ostensibly controlled by evangelical Christians?

There is no hypocrisy here.  Murdoch is a capitalist and if the news business were dominated by conservatives, he&#039;d have started a left wing news channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting with &#8220;Married With Children&#8221;, the Fox network has always been the leader in salacious programming.  So how can its critics claim that Fox is the mouthpiece of a right wing, ostensibly controlled by evangelical Christians?</p>
<p>There is no hypocrisy here.  Murdoch is a capitalist and if the news business were dominated by conservatives, he&#8217;d have started a left wing news channel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;DirecTV is far cheaper, with way more channels, &amp; much better customer service. Boyâ€“youâ€™d almost think Murdoch was a liberal!&lt;/i&gt;

Huh? Not in a million years.

Liberal ideaologies  such as tenure, affirmative action, and making it difficult for employers to get rid of sub par employees are NOT known to lead to the best service and products at the cheapest prices!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>DirecTV is far cheaper, with way more channels, &amp; much better customer service. Boyâ€“youâ€™d almost think Murdoch was a liberal!</i></p>
<p>Huh? Not in a million years.</p>
<p>Liberal ideaologies  such as tenure, affirmative action, and making it difficult for employers to get rid of sub par employees are NOT known to lead to the best service and products at the cheapest prices!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jaffa</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2715</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jaffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>penny-

By what measure is MSNBC liberal?

They promoted Bush in 2000 through Chris Matthews&#039; &quot;Hardball&quot; which constantly distorted Al Gore.

They promoted the Iraq War with &quot;Countdown Iraq.&quot;

Hosts include Rita Cosby, Joe Scarborough, and Tucker Carlson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>penny-</p>
<p>By what measure is MSNBC liberal?</p>
<p>They promoted Bush in 2000 through Chris Matthews&#8217; &#8220;Hardball&#8221; which constantly distorted Al Gore.</p>
<p>They promoted the Iraq War with &#8220;Countdown Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hosts include Rita Cosby, Joe Scarborough, and Tucker Carlson.</p>
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		<title>By: beachmom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2714</link>
		<dc:creator>beachmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this liberal vs. conservative argument misses the point.  I watch the Jim Lehrer News Hour on PBS, which has been rated over and over again to be about as objective as humanly possible.  But that&#039;s not what keeps me going back to it.  Instead, it is the QUALITY of the show and their in depth reports and discussions so that I can try to get my mind around the issues of the day.  To me, I put Fox News and CNN in the same category -- dull and dumb.  An hour spent with The Economist magazine will fill your brain with more knowledge and thought provoking questions about the world than a year&#039;s worth of cable news.  If local news could offer information and news about what affects me the most -- things like development, local government, local businesses and employment, education -- along with a few nice stories about what NORMAL people do there, not just the criminals, I would consider taking a look.  But whether it&#039;s their current formula of stupid programming or a Fox style formula of stupid programming, I&#039;d be better off catching a re-run of Seinfeld.  Unfortunately, the lowest common denominator always wins in the for-profit news business, so I&#039;m not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this liberal vs. conservative argument misses the point.  I watch the Jim Lehrer News Hour on PBS, which has been rated over and over again to be about as objective as humanly possible.  But that&#8217;s not what keeps me going back to it.  Instead, it is the QUALITY of the show and their in depth reports and discussions so that I can try to get my mind around the issues of the day.  To me, I put Fox News and CNN in the same category &#8212; dull and dumb.  An hour spent with The Economist magazine will fill your brain with more knowledge and thought provoking questions about the world than a year&#8217;s worth of cable news.  If local news could offer information and news about what affects me the most &#8212; things like development, local government, local businesses and employment, education &#8212; along with a few nice stories about what NORMAL people do there, not just the criminals, I would consider taking a look.  But whether it&#8217;s their current formula of stupid programming or a Fox style formula of stupid programming, I&#8217;d be better off catching a re-run of Seinfeld.  Unfortunately, the lowest common denominator always wins in the for-profit news business, so I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one thing to &quot;say something,&quot; it&#039;s an altogether different thing to spout nonsense and engage in character assassination on a regular basis.  On many occasions Iâ€™ve tried to sit through the various FOX news â€œshowsâ€ and calling them â€œnewsâ€ is stretching.  The same can be said of Air America Radio.  I also think you give Roger Ailes far too much credit.  He may have changed how 24/7 news channels operate, but he also helped to create the class of loud-mouthed, cruel, attention-craving â€œreporterâ€ that is hurting news dissemination in this country.  

I will, however, give Rupert Murdoch his due.  He took up the mantle of media â€œitâ€ guy when Ted Turner sold out to Time Warner and he will continue to dominate the field until he dies.  While I certainly donâ€™t think his control of world-wide media is necessarily a positive thing, the way in which he has run his various properties should be an example for future media moguls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing to &#8220;say something,&#8221; it&#8217;s an altogether different thing to spout nonsense and engage in character assassination on a regular basis.  On many occasions Iâ€™ve tried to sit through the various FOX news â€œshowsâ€ and calling them â€œnewsâ€ is stretching.  The same can be said of Air America Radio.  I also think you give Roger Ailes far too much credit.  He may have changed how 24/7 news channels operate, but he also helped to create the class of loud-mouthed, cruel, attention-craving â€œreporterâ€ that is hurting news dissemination in this country.  </p>
<p>I will, however, give Rupert Murdoch his due.  He took up the mantle of media â€œitâ€ guy when Ted Turner sold out to Time Warner and he will continue to dominate the field until he dies.  While I certainly donâ€™t think his control of world-wide media is necessarily a positive thing, the way in which he has run his various properties should be an example for future media moguls.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is when will a small-ish local newspaper Foxify (to the right or left)- in the right market, this is a  chance to extend the franchise shelf-life significantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is when will a small-ish local newspaper Foxify (to the right or left)- in the right market, this is a  chance to extend the franchise shelf-life significantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panny and Maureen, did you cut and paste your responses from the &quot;Winger Playbook&quot;?

Remember - the NYT and Judy Miller advanced ALL of the WH&#039;s pre-war nonsense. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001018727&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read how&lt;/a&gt; the &quot;liberal&quot; media fell all over themselves convincing us that Colin Powell mobile weapons labs BS in front of the UN was strong, powerful, slam-dunk, etc.

Your &quot;liberal&quot; media was all over the Clenis and his fat intern, but have given your boy George a free pass until recently, when they realized that he wasn&#039;t a &quot;popular president&quot; after all.

The NYT even gave INTELLIGENT DESIGN a free pass today, in the name of equal time, I guess. Any article about ID should clearly state that it is the antithesis of intelligence and knowledge. Impartiality doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t call bullshit on the latest religous propaganda.

But the real argument here isn&#039;t editorial content. I could care less what the pundits say. If you want to believe the BS that comes out of the mouths of Hannity, O&#039;Reilly, etc., that&#039;s fine. That&#039;s your stupidity. But when it&#039;s ALL punditry, and no news, that&#039;s a problem. And that&#039;s what Fox is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panny and Maureen, did you cut and paste your responses from the &#8220;Winger Playbook&#8221;?</p>
<p>Remember &#8211; the NYT and Judy Miller advanced ALL of the WH&#8217;s pre-war nonsense. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001018727" rel="nofollow">Read how</a> the &#8220;liberal&#8221; media fell all over themselves convincing us that Colin Powell mobile weapons labs BS in front of the UN was strong, powerful, slam-dunk, etc.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;liberal&#8221; media was all over the Clenis and his fat intern, but have given your boy George a free pass until recently, when they realized that he wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;popular president&#8221; after all.</p>
<p>The NYT even gave INTELLIGENT DESIGN a free pass today, in the name of equal time, I guess. Any article about ID should clearly state that it is the antithesis of intelligence and knowledge. Impartiality doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t call bullshit on the latest religous propaganda.</p>
<p>But the real argument here isn&#8217;t editorial content. I could care less what the pundits say. If you want to believe the BS that comes out of the mouths of Hannity, O&#8217;Reilly, etc., that&#8217;s fine. That&#8217;s your stupidity. But when it&#8217;s ALL punditry, and no news, that&#8217;s a problem. And that&#8217;s what Fox is.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2695</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupert Murdoch, for all the bashing he takes from liberals, is one media mogul who &quot;gets it.&quot;  This guy has long had his media outlets on the cutting edge.  Think about it--back in the 80s, when TV was pretty bland &amp; blah, Fox broke on the scene with programs like &quot;Married with Children,&quot; &quot;Melrose Place,&quot; etc. that may have been offensive but certainly were water-cooler talk.  He made that network into a significant force that is now on the level of ABC, CBS, &amp; NBC--&amp; often beats them in ratings.  Even now, Fox still comes up with programs like &quot;Arrested Development.&quot;  Then there&#039;s FX, which breaks further ground with its programming--including, attention liberals, &quot;Over There.&quot;  And that&#039;s just in the US.  In Europe, there&#039;s SkyTV, which has (blessedly) proven to be a major thorn to the BBC in the UK, &amp; is expanding around Europe.  

Then there&#039;s DirecTV--&amp; for that alone, he should be worshipped.  He single-handedly has managed to shake some sense into the cable behemoths who have long saddled us consumers with ridiculous prices &amp; crappy, arrogant service.  As a former Comcast-sufferer, I can attest to how scared he has them.  Boy, in my community (where DirecTV dishes are sprouting like mushrooms), they&#039;ve all of a sudden become very concerned about customer service.  Not that I&#039;ll ever go back to them, but services like Comcast On Demand have resulted directly as a way to combat DirecTV.  (And, liberals, since I live in a heavily minority community--may I point out that DirecTV is much fairer in its pricing than Comcast &amp; other cable giants.  My community, just outside DC, has one of the crappiest cable systems I have ever encountered in over 30 years of using cable.  Comcast has the community hostage, since it&#039;s the only cable provider.  DirecTV is far cheaper, with way more channels, &amp; much better customer service.  Boy--you&#039;d almost think Murdoch was a liberal!)

Then, he puts a news network on the air, &amp; in a relatively short time has managed to scare the bejesus out of the other mainstream, liberal, news organizations, &amp; the politicians that love them.  When the NY Times spends a significant amount of ink last week running an article trying to prove how unimportant you are, you know a network has arrived.  Funny--Ted Turner used to be considered the media mogul who had &quot;It.&quot;  He was forward-thinking &amp; daring.  Now, he &amp; his then ground-breaking network are just tired, boring, predictable, &amp; rapidly losing ratings.  Yet Murdoch is the old fart--significantly older than Turner, but constantly coming up with new media innovations.  

Murdoch also &quot;gets&quot; the Internet--again, putting him far ahead of other media organizations still trying to convince themselves that people in their pajamas should be poo-poohed.  His speech a few months ago should serve as another wake-up call to those media organizations.  It will be very interesting to see where he goes over the next few years in merging his various tv &amp; print outlets with the Internet.  The New York Times (&amp; people like Angelos) can continue to splutter about &quot;right-wing bias&quot; &amp; how &quot;unimportant&quot; Fox is.  Fox will continue to eat them for lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert Murdoch, for all the bashing he takes from liberals, is one media mogul who &#8220;gets it.&#8221;  This guy has long had his media outlets on the cutting edge.  Think about it&#8211;back in the 80s, when TV was pretty bland &amp; blah, Fox broke on the scene with programs like &#8220;Married with Children,&#8221; &#8220;Melrose Place,&#8221; etc. that may have been offensive but certainly were water-cooler talk.  He made that network into a significant force that is now on the level of ABC, CBS, &amp; NBC&#8211;&amp; often beats them in ratings.  Even now, Fox still comes up with programs like &#8220;Arrested Development.&#8221;  Then there&#8217;s FX, which breaks further ground with its programming&#8211;including, attention liberals, &#8220;Over There.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s just in the US.  In Europe, there&#8217;s SkyTV, which has (blessedly) proven to be a major thorn to the BBC in the UK, &amp; is expanding around Europe.  </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s DirecTV&#8211;&amp; for that alone, he should be worshipped.  He single-handedly has managed to shake some sense into the cable behemoths who have long saddled us consumers with ridiculous prices &amp; crappy, arrogant service.  As a former Comcast-sufferer, I can attest to how scared he has them.  Boy, in my community (where DirecTV dishes are sprouting like mushrooms), they&#8217;ve all of a sudden become very concerned about customer service.  Not that I&#8217;ll ever go back to them, but services like Comcast On Demand have resulted directly as a way to combat DirecTV.  (And, liberals, since I live in a heavily minority community&#8211;may I point out that DirecTV is much fairer in its pricing than Comcast &amp; other cable giants.  My community, just outside DC, has one of the crappiest cable systems I have ever encountered in over 30 years of using cable.  Comcast has the community hostage, since it&#8217;s the only cable provider.  DirecTV is far cheaper, with way more channels, &amp; much better customer service.  Boy&#8211;you&#8217;d almost think Murdoch was a liberal!)</p>
<p>Then, he puts a news network on the air, &amp; in a relatively short time has managed to scare the bejesus out of the other mainstream, liberal, news organizations, &amp; the politicians that love them.  When the NY Times spends a significant amount of ink last week running an article trying to prove how unimportant you are, you know a network has arrived.  Funny&#8211;Ted Turner used to be considered the media mogul who had &#8220;It.&#8221;  He was forward-thinking &amp; daring.  Now, he &amp; his then ground-breaking network are just tired, boring, predictable, &amp; rapidly losing ratings.  Yet Murdoch is the old fart&#8211;significantly older than Turner, but constantly coming up with new media innovations.  </p>
<p>Murdoch also &#8220;gets&#8221; the Internet&#8211;again, putting him far ahead of other media organizations still trying to convince themselves that people in their pajamas should be poo-poohed.  His speech a few months ago should serve as another wake-up call to those media organizations.  It will be very interesting to see where he goes over the next few years in merging his various tv &amp; print outlets with the Internet.  The New York Times (&amp; people like Angelos) can continue to splutter about &#8220;right-wing bias&#8221; &amp; how &#8220;unimportant&#8221; Fox is.  Fox will continue to eat them for lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2694</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angelos--Yet again proof of how liberals are so scared.  As Penny points out, there&#039;s NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NYT, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Boston Globe, Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco papers, Discovery Channels (now co-owned by NYT), &amp; on &amp; on.  But for some reason, one single channel seems to freak out the liberals.  And I&#039;d defy you to point out any more propoganda coming from Fox than any of those other &quot;neutral&quot; outlets.  Frankly, I&#039;d rather get my news from an organization honest enough to admit its leanings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelos&#8211;Yet again proof of how liberals are so scared.  As Penny points out, there&#8217;s NPR, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NYT, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Boston Globe, Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco papers, Discovery Channels (now co-owned by NYT), &amp; on &amp; on.  But for some reason, one single channel seems to freak out the liberals.  And I&#8217;d defy you to point out any more propoganda coming from Fox than any of those other &#8220;neutral&#8221; outlets.  Frankly, I&#8217;d rather get my news from an organization honest enough to admit its leanings.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2692</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We want news, remember, not right-wing propaganda.&lt;/i&gt; 

Angelos, you&#039;ve got NPR, CNN, MSNBC, the alphabets, the NYT&#039;s.......can&#039;t you allow in your heart just one network for us conservatives?

Please.  Have a heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We want news, remember, not right-wing propaganda.</i> </p>
<p>Angelos, you&#8217;ve got NPR, CNN, MSNBC, the alphabets, the NYT&#8217;s&#8230;&#8230;.can&#8217;t you allow in your heart just one network for us conservatives?</p>
<p>Please.  Have a heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want news, remember, not right-wing propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want news, remember, not right-wing propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, people tune in for the car chases and breathless play-by-play on a traffic jam.

It&#039;s also amusing to tally up the amount of time on actual news, promos, and the worthless swooshing animations. News is way down, animations and bumpers are way up. It&#039;s almost like buying a videogame with all cutscenes and very little actual play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, people tune in for the car chases and breathless play-by-play on a traffic jam.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also amusing to tally up the amount of time on actual news, promos, and the worthless swooshing animations. News is way down, animations and bumpers are way up. It&#8217;s almost like buying a videogame with all cutscenes and very little actual play.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ferguson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2685</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno. Looking back, when (pre-Viacom) CBS bought WCCO AM radio in Minneapolis/St. Paul, it was the dominant station in the market, AM or FM. Then they threw out all the old announcers and brought in a format like WBBM or WCBS. WCCO tanked.

If Ailes wants to make all of Fox&#039;s O&amp;Os have the same McNews format, it won&#039;t help bring more eyeballs to advertisers. Local markets have local flavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. Looking back, when (pre-Viacom) CBS bought WCCO AM radio in Minneapolis/St. Paul, it was the dominant station in the market, AM or FM. Then they threw out all the old announcers and brought in a format like WBBM or WCBS. WCCO tanked.</p>
<p>If Ailes wants to make all of Fox&#8217;s O&amp;Os have the same McNews format, it won&#8217;t help bring more eyeballs to advertisers. Local markets have local flavor.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX&#039;s Brit Hume news hour is the most watchable, in-depth and intelligent news on tv right now.  It would be nice if FOX held their locals to the same standard.

Paul makes a good point.  There is nothing more boring, redundant and pathetic than the locals re-capping the national news.  Why bother?  You can flip to FOX or CNN for it 24/7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX&#8217;s Brit Hume news hour is the most watchable, in-depth and intelligent news on tv right now.  It would be nice if FOX held their locals to the same standard.</p>
<p>Paul makes a good point.  There is nothing more boring, redundant and pathetic than the locals re-capping the national news.  Why bother?  You can flip to FOX or CNN for it 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/22/foxification-of-local-news/#comment-2677</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  I stopped watching my local news years ago, when they restyled themselves as Headline news / Entertainment tonight ( with updates on what the top rated movies were ), complete with a text crawler on the bottom edge of the screen!  And it&#039;s not like Asheville NC is a huge market or anything.  If it&#039;s a big national story, they&#039;re sure to have a reporter covering it!  Local news outside of the Asheville city limits is pratically ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  I stopped watching my local news years ago, when they restyled themselves as Headline news / Entertainment tonight ( with updates on what the top rated movies were ), complete with a text crawler on the bottom edge of the screen!  And it&#8217;s not like Asheville NC is a huge market or anything.  If it&#8217;s a big national story, they&#8217;re sure to have a reporter covering it!  Local news outside of the Asheville city limits is pratically ignored.</p>
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