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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Capistrano</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-9860</link>
		<dc:creator>Capistrano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every one seems to think that government will naturally do whats best for the people: true to an extent. Big Businesses provides the capital needed to win an elections. Big businesses like Oil companies and Arms manufacturers. They have to get paid back at some point in time,  Arms stock piles and bullets have to be used, so we find reasons like Saddam. After all, we can't just keep making bombs and bullets and never use em??? Who would that benefit.
Oil is the blood in which ALL economic activity flows, as long as economies are expanding and wars are being fought, oil will flow and rise.
Forget about your solar cars and 250 mpg Prius.
If Toyota even thinks about marketing any thing like that, the US will find a reason to invade Japan again.
Dreamers, were you asleep in school during business class and economics??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every one seems to think that government will naturally do whats best for the people: true to an extent. Big Businesses provides the capital needed to win an elections. Big businesses like Oil companies and Arms manufacturers. They have to get paid back at some point in time,  Arms stock piles and bullets have to be used, so we find reasons like Saddam. After all, we can&#8217;t just keep making bombs and bullets and never use em??? Who would that benefit.<br />
Oil is the blood in which ALL economic activity flows, as long as economies are expanding and wars are being fought, oil will flow and rise.<br />
Forget about your solar cars and 250 mpg Prius.<br />
If Toyota even thinks about marketing any thing like that, the US will find a reason to invade Japan again.<br />
Dreamers, were you asleep in school during business class and economics??</p>
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		<title>By: havecoffeewillwrite.com &#187; GASOLINE JUMPS 57 CENTS&#8230;!</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-5513</link>
		<dc:creator>havecoffeewillwrite.com &#187; GASOLINE JUMPS 57 CENTS&#8230;!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, maybe not really enough said. Here&#8217;s Jeff Jarvis&#8217; two bits. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, maybe not really enough said. Here&#8217;s Jeff Jarvis&#8217; two bits. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: aenk</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-4418</link>
		<dc:creator>aenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Brown couldn't even run the horse show judge business properly: he got kicked out because of incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Brown couldn&#8217;t even run the horse show judge business properly: he got kicked out because of incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperWoody</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-4374</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperWoody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO at Mike!!

Angelos needs to try some decaf and quit watching just CNN.  If fact, he sounds freakishly like the N.O. mayor, with less obscenities!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO at Mike!!</p>
<p>Angelos needs to try some decaf and quit watching just CNN.  If fact, he sounds freakishly like the N.O. mayor, with less obscenities!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3895</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Under Secretary Brown's Bio:

Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Securityâ€™s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMAâ€™s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before.

Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&#38;R Division.

Sounds like he has some experience, doesn't it.

Angelos, can you for once try to not be political.  Do you have the mental capacity to set that aside for a week maybe?  Your posts are so vitriolic, calm down man, there will be plenty of time to spew your hatred later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Under Secretary Brown&#8217;s Bio:</p>
<p>Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Securityâ€™s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMAâ€™s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before.</p>
<p>Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA&#8217;s Deputy Director and the agency&#8217;s General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President&#8217;s Consequence Management Principal&#8217;s Committee, which acted as the White House&#8217;s policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&amp;R Division.</p>
<p>Sounds like he has some experience, doesn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>Angelos, can you for once try to not be political.  Do you have the mental capacity to set that aside for a week maybe?  Your posts are so vitriolic, calm down man, there will be plenty of time to spew your hatred later.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&#38;u=/afp/20050831/ts_alt_afp/usweatheroilgulfrigs_050831213642" rel="nofollow"&gt;Some more&lt;/a&gt; on the damage to the oil refineries, platforms, etc.

91% of the production is shut down. For how long?

This should start another good 30 years of talk about lessening our reliance on foreign oil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/afp/20050831/ts_alt_afp/usweatheroilgulfrigs_050831213642" rel="nofollow">Some more</a> on the damage to the oil refineries, platforms, etc.</p>
<p>91% of the production is shut down. For how long?</p>
<p>This should start another good 30 years of talk about lessening our reliance on foreign oil!</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3719</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we have a winner!

The head of FEMA, do you want to know his qualifications?

"He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department."

Excellent.

Which could be why, even though FEMA was wrapped into Homeland Security, there were no plans for refugee shelters. No food. No airlifts. No hospitals. No nothing.

Another fucking lawyer in another fucking patronage job IS IN CHARGE OF THE SAFETY OF 290 million AMERICANS!!! In a government that puts ideology and money ahead of human lives, this is what we have come to.

You had better be ready for the shitstorm the next time there is a terrorist attack on our land, because we're soooooo not ready.

Remember, there is no SuperDoppler for planes flying into buildings. There will be no 5 days notice.

Safer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we have a winner!</p>
<p>The head of FEMA, do you want to know his qualifications?</p>
<p>&#8220;He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent.</p>
<p>Which could be why, even though FEMA was wrapped into Homeland Security, there were no plans for refugee shelters. No food. No airlifts. No hospitals. No nothing.</p>
<p>Another fucking lawyer in another fucking patronage job IS IN CHARGE OF THE SAFETY OF 290 million AMERICANS!!! In a government that puts ideology and money ahead of human lives, this is what we have come to.</p>
<p>You had better be ready for the shitstorm the next time there is a terrorist attack on our land, because we&#8217;re soooooo not ready.</p>
<p>Remember, there is no SuperDoppler for planes flying into buildings. There will be no 5 days notice.</p>
<p>Safer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3670</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys like Jeff shouldn't be whining about the price of gas.  Leftists like him voted for politicians that have systemically blocked every energy development program: refineries, ANWAR, nuclear, etc.

Lefties should be apologizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys like Jeff shouldn&#8217;t be whining about the price of gas.  Leftists like him voted for politicians that have systemically blocked every energy development program: refineries, ANWAR, nuclear, etc.</p>
<p>Lefties should be apologizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3661</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Jenny, I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; donated to the Red Cross. And once my relatives are up and running, I will send them a check to bring cans to shelters.

And I have a job, so no thank you, I'll be staying right here.

Let's not forget the hours and checks I give to local charities.

This isn't politics, Jenny, this is the here and now. Here and now, we have a Republican administration that has proven itself incompetent at every level, at everything it does. And by not doing things it should.

Imagine, the consensus is that FEMA was at its all time best under James Witt, who rebuilt it after its gutting by Bush the elder. So for 8 years, we had an agency that knew what it was doing, and was run by competent people. As soon as Bush junior took over, it was gutted again. Its "management" jobs were given out as patronage. Don't you feel better now? Billy Joe Jim Bob is in charge of emergency response on Alabama, because he knows someone who knows someone who knows the assistant to the assistant to the undersecretary of Yes Men. Quite an upgrade from his job pumping gas at the local Shell.

I feel safer every day, don't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Jenny, I <i>have</i> donated to the Red Cross. And once my relatives are up and running, I will send them a check to bring cans to shelters.</p>
<p>And I have a job, so no thank you, I&#8217;ll be staying right here.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the hours and checks I give to local charities.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t politics, Jenny, this is the here and now. Here and now, we have a Republican administration that has proven itself incompetent at every level, at everything it does. And by not doing things it should.</p>
<p>Imagine, the consensus is that FEMA was at its all time best under James Witt, who rebuilt it after its gutting by Bush the elder. So for 8 years, we had an agency that knew what it was doing, and was run by competent people. As soon as Bush junior took over, it was gutted again. Its &#8220;management&#8221; jobs were given out as patronage. Don&#8217;t you feel better now? Billy Joe Jim Bob is in charge of emergency response on Alabama, because he knows someone who knows someone who knows the assistant to the assistant to the undersecretary of Yes Men. Quite an upgrade from his job pumping gas at the local Shell.</p>
<p>I feel safer every day, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3660</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some stuff from around the web:

If Bush understood how serious this was, a brigade of the 101st would be have moved to Ft. Polk over the weekend and their helicopters would have been rescuing people as soon as the weathered cleared. Their heavy lift battalion would have been ferrying in supplies to isolated communities and the AF would have been dropping humanitarian aid packages like they did in Afghanistan over isolated rural areas. But that would be a serious understanding of the situation. Like taking over a couple of military bases recently closed and starting to build housing there and establishing order. The Astrodome will turn into the Superdome within days. The response here has not met the need in any way, shape or form. Just three C-130's could have tossed out enough food and water to keep people alive until the trucks arrived in the rural areas. Instead, this is disaster business as usual and that is condemning people to die.


Late Wednesday, Tenet Healthcare Corp. asked Louisiana State Police and the U.S. Coast Guard to help evacuate one of its hospitals in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water, medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was held up by gunmen. We have to close it down because we can no longer ensure the safety of our patients or our staff in that hospital," Tenet spokesman Steven Campanini said of the 203-bed Meadowcrest Hospital."


"This is mass chaos," said Sgt. Jason Defess, 27, a National Guard military policeman who had been stationed on a ramp outside the Superdome since Monday. "To tell you the truth, I'd rather be in Iraq," where he was deployed for 14 months until January. "You got your constant danger, but I had something to protect myself," he said. "Three meals a day. Communications. A plan. Here, they had no plan."


Airlines and oil companies are working on plans to supply jet fuel to at least ten U.S. airports that could be shut down due to a lack of jet fuel caused by refinery and pipeline shutdowns from hurricane Katrina. The airports in most jeopardy for closure include Atlanta, Charlotte, Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Myers, Orlando, Tampa, Washington Dulles and West Palm Beach.


CNN's Chris Lawrence reporting on Aaron Brown, reports of people streaming out of the Superdome, entire families just trying to walk out of the city in fear. Reports of a dead body in the Superdome, several women raped. There is no visible police presence on the ground. He reported a police officer saying "we don't need police here, this needs to be a military action right now", the officer said that the situation was more than the police could take on. We're in day 3 Mr. President, and it's getting worse. And you go on television today and say you're about to BEGIN WORK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some stuff from around the web:</p>
<p>If Bush understood how serious this was, a brigade of the 101st would be have moved to Ft. Polk over the weekend and their helicopters would have been rescuing people as soon as the weathered cleared. Their heavy lift battalion would have been ferrying in supplies to isolated communities and the AF would have been dropping humanitarian aid packages like they did in Afghanistan over isolated rural areas. But that would be a serious understanding of the situation. Like taking over a couple of military bases recently closed and starting to build housing there and establishing order. The Astrodome will turn into the Superdome within days. The response here has not met the need in any way, shape or form. Just three C-130&#8217;s could have tossed out enough food and water to keep people alive until the trucks arrived in the rural areas. Instead, this is disaster business as usual and that is condemning people to die.</p>
<p>Late Wednesday, Tenet Healthcare Corp. asked Louisiana State Police and the U.S. Coast Guard to help evacuate one of its hospitals in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water, medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was held up by gunmen. We have to close it down because we can no longer ensure the safety of our patients or our staff in that hospital,&#8221; Tenet spokesman Steven Campanini said of the 203-bed Meadowcrest Hospital.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This is mass chaos,&#8221; said Sgt. Jason Defess, 27, a National Guard military policeman who had been stationed on a ramp outside the Superdome since Monday. &#8220;To tell you the truth, I&#8217;d rather be in Iraq,&#8221; where he was deployed for 14 months until January. &#8220;You got your constant danger, but I had something to protect myself,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Three meals a day. Communications. A plan. Here, they had no plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Airlines and oil companies are working on plans to supply jet fuel to at least ten U.S. airports that could be shut down due to a lack of jet fuel caused by refinery and pipeline shutdowns from hurricane Katrina. The airports in most jeopardy for closure include Atlanta, Charlotte, Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Myers, Orlando, Tampa, Washington Dulles and West Palm Beach.</p>
<p>CNN&#8217;s Chris Lawrence reporting on Aaron Brown, reports of people streaming out of the Superdome, entire families just trying to walk out of the city in fear. Reports of a dead body in the Superdome, several women raped. There is no visible police presence on the ground. He reported a police officer saying &#8220;we don&#8217;t need police here, this needs to be a military action right now&#8221;, the officer said that the situation was more than the police could take on. We&#8217;re in day 3 Mr. President, and it&#8217;s getting worse. And you go on television today and say you&#8217;re about to BEGIN WORK?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3635</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When gasoline takes up 20% or more of our budget instead of the 2 or 3% it currently does is when we'll get serious about oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When gasoline takes up 20% or more of our budget instead of the 2 or 3% it currently does is when we&#8217;ll get serious about oil.</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3618</link>
		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angelos

Peace.  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelos</p>
<p>Peace.  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3616</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see anybody here saying conservation is a bad thing. Even if you're not motivated by ecological concerns, it still saves money.  I have been spending time researching ways to make my house more energy efficient.  My next project is to wrap the two water heaters in my house (it's a two-family).  Bit by bit, my house is going to become more energy efficient than my neighbors'.  And if they want advice or help I'm happy to give that, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anybody here saying conservation is a bad thing. Even if you&#8217;re not motivated by ecological concerns, it still saves money.  I have been spending time researching ways to make my house more energy efficient.  My next project is to wrap the two water heaters in my house (it&#8217;s a two-family).  Bit by bit, my house is going to become more energy efficient than my neighbors&#8217;.  And if they want advice or help I&#8217;m happy to give that, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Learning The Lessons of Nixon &#187; Where is our energy strategy?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3615</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning The Lessons of Nixon &#187; Where is our energy strategy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff hits the head on the nail: Between terrorism, never-ending unrest in the Middle East, Iraq, and now Katrina, you&#8217;d think that finally &#8212; finally &#8212; politicians would take the strategic energy issue by the horns. You;d think that someone would be getting on TV with a man-on-the-moon-sized, project-Manhattan-prioritized initiative on oil: incentives to develop alternative sources and find new efficiencies. Start with that guy who built the 250 mpg Prius and take him to Detroit and Toyko and tell them all: If he can do it, you can do it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff hits the head on the nail: Between terrorism, never-ending unrest in the Middle East, Iraq, and now Katrina, you&#8217;d think that finally &#8212; finally &#8212; politicians would take the strategic energy issue by the horns. You;d think that someone would be getting on TV with a man-on-the-moon-sized, project-Manhattan-prioritized initiative on oil: incentives to develop alternative sources and find new efficiencies. Start with that guy who built the 250 mpg Prius and take him to Detroit and Toyko and tell them all: If he can do it, you can do it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JennyD</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3613</link>
		<dc:creator>JennyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angelos, snap out of it. You're in some weird death spiral of politics. Here are a couple of suggestions:

Whip out your credit card and give money to the Red Cross.

Drive down to Houston/Baton Rouge/Jackson/Montgomery and feed some homeless people. Bring canned goods.

If you took all the energy you spent bitching about politics and tried to help living, needy people...hell, you'd be Mother Theresa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelos, snap out of it. You&#8217;re in some weird death spiral of politics. Here are a couple of suggestions:</p>
<p>Whip out your credit card and give money to the Red Cross.</p>
<p>Drive down to Houston/Baton Rouge/Jackson/Montgomery and feed some homeless people. Bring canned goods.</p>
<p>If you took all the energy you spent bitching about politics and tried to help living, needy people&#8230;hell, you&#8217;d be Mother Theresa.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir Meshkin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3607</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir Meshkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &lt;a href="http://iran-azadi.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-if-there-was-oil-in-uganda.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Uganda or Liberia had oil,&lt;/a&gt; don't you think we would have sent troops there?  Of course we would have.  But we're not just fighting for oil.  All the shit we blow up, has to be rebuilt...but not by the Afghans or the Iraqi's.  This is a competitive marketplace!  So thats why we let the Chinese build Afghan roads.

Because its cheaper.  Makes sense right?!  That's the way most right wingers think.  Sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If <a href="http://iran-azadi.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-if-there-was-oil-in-uganda.html" rel="nofollow">Uganda or Liberia had oil,</a> don&#8217;t you think we would have sent troops there?  Of course we would have.  But we&#8217;re not just fighting for oil.  All the shit we blow up, has to be rebuilt&#8230;but not by the Afghans or the Iraqi&#8217;s.  This is a competitive marketplace!  So thats why we let the Chinese build Afghan roads.</p>
<p>Because its cheaper.  Makes sense right?!  That&#8217;s the way most right wingers think.  Sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3605</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right Mike.

FEMA has been gutted to the point that it's a joke.

Our National Guard is in Iraq.

The people they do have helping are relying on CIVILIAN communications. Which don't work.

It took our "leader" 2.5 days to respond to this catastrophe. 

But &lt;i&gt;I'm&lt;/i&gt; the fucktard here.

You can play the "respect for the dead" card to change the subject today, but the questions won't go away.

Maybe some of can compartmentalize, and actually hold more than one thought in our head at the same time. So while I was worried about my Aunt and Uncle in Baton Rouge, I could also wonder to myself, gee, we haven't heard from our President yet. Look I could give a shit what he says. All he had to to was get up there and look sincere, and state his plan of action, and offer the nation reassurance. You know, like Reagan and Clinton would have done marvelously.

But Preznit Shitforbrains had to give an Iraq rally. And he had to give another "reform" Medicare speech. Oh, and he had to do a smiling photo-op strumming the official presidential guitar. (WTF?!?! by the way...)

South Carolina, North Carolina, and West Virginia are running out of gas. Even the police are predicting they'll have no fuel for their troopers come Friday. Where fuel does exist, there is gouging.

New Orleans cops have been instructed to focus on looters instead of search-n-rescue.

We knew about this storm for days, and your president did NOTHING!!! No Navy ships at the ready with food and emergency supplies and generators. These people were abandoned. 

But sorry Mike, I guess we should all keep our mouths shut, and respect the troops. I mean the dead. 

Or, we can read &lt;a href="http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2005/08/on-stewardship.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; and wonder how the hell we let it get this far. Across the board failure, and you think you can shut me up with that tired old "respect the (insert cause of the day here)" bullshit? Maybe you should do some actual thinking, and direct some energy to the real assholes, the ones in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Mike.</p>
<p>FEMA has been gutted to the point that it&#8217;s a joke.</p>
<p>Our National Guard is in Iraq.</p>
<p>The people they do have helping are relying on CIVILIAN communications. Which don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>It took our &#8220;leader&#8221; 2.5 days to respond to this catastrophe. </p>
<p>But <i>I&#8217;m</i> the fucktard here.</p>
<p>You can play the &#8220;respect for the dead&#8221; card to change the subject today, but the questions won&#8217;t go away.</p>
<p>Maybe some of can compartmentalize, and actually hold more than one thought in our head at the same time. So while I was worried about my Aunt and Uncle in Baton Rouge, I could also wonder to myself, gee, we haven&#8217;t heard from our President yet. Look I could give a shit what he says. All he had to to was get up there and look sincere, and state his plan of action, and offer the nation reassurance. You know, like Reagan and Clinton would have done marvelously.</p>
<p>But Preznit Shitforbrains had to give an Iraq rally. And he had to give another &#8220;reform&#8221; Medicare speech. Oh, and he had to do a smiling photo-op strumming the official presidential guitar. (WTF?!?! by the way&#8230;)</p>
<p>South Carolina, North Carolina, and West Virginia are running out of gas. Even the police are predicting they&#8217;ll have no fuel for their troopers come Friday. Where fuel does exist, there is gouging.</p>
<p>New Orleans cops have been instructed to focus on looters instead of search-n-rescue.</p>
<p>We knew about this storm for days, and your president did NOTHING!!! No Navy ships at the ready with food and emergency supplies and generators. These people were abandoned. </p>
<p>But sorry Mike, I guess we should all keep our mouths shut, and respect the troops. I mean the dead. </p>
<p>Or, we can read <a href="http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2005/08/on-stewardship.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> and wonder how the hell we let it get this far. Across the board failure, and you think you can shut me up with that tired old &#8220;respect the (insert cause of the day here)&#8221; bullshit? Maybe you should do some actual thinking, and direct some energy to the real assholes, the ones in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3600</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Stein:

thanks for the really excellent analysis.  I was noticing myself that 'petroleum products' probably are a larger part of our lives than straight-out fuel.  don't forget your formerly comfortable wool sweater is now a plastic wrap of sorts.

And not far from Dallas I paid $3.++ for regular gas tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Stein:</p>
<p>thanks for the really excellent analysis.  I was noticing myself that &#8216;petroleum products&#8217; probably are a larger part of our lives than straight-out fuel.  don&#8217;t forget your formerly comfortable wool sweater is now a plastic wrap of sorts.</p>
<p>And not far from Dallas I paid $3.++ for regular gas tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM people know how to build a 250MPG car.  The hard part is building one that people will buy at a profit to GM/Toyota, and the 250MPG Prius doesn't address that problem at all.

Right now, hybrids don't make economic sense to buyers.  (Don't believe me - see how many miles you have to go burning $5/g gas before you recover the Prius premium over a 30MPG econobox.)  That's not fatal - lots of people will spend money on things that don't make economc sense.  However, lots more won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM people know how to build a 250MPG car.  The hard part is building one that people will buy at a profit to GM/Toyota, and the 250MPG Prius doesn&#8217;t address that problem at all.</p>
<p>Right now, hybrids don&#8217;t make economic sense to buyers.  (Don&#8217;t believe me - see how many miles you have to go burning $5/g gas before you recover the Prius premium over a 30MPG econobox.)  That&#8217;s not fatal - lots of people will spend money on things that don&#8217;t make economc sense.  However, lots more won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: billg</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3594</link>
		<dc:creator>billg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I herewith donate all rights to the following two taglines to the 2008 Democratic Presidential nominee:

"Four dollar Bush" and "Four Dollar Republicans"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I herewith donate all rights to the following two taglines to the 2008 Democratic Presidential nominee:</p>
<p>&#8220;Four dollar Bush&#8221; and &#8220;Four Dollar Republicans&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: goy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3593</link>
		<dc:creator>goy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with den Beste here on the short term. But one thing is clear. Someone had better begin taking the lead on these issues and at least HELPING the market to "solve the problem".

Bacteria are smarter. Stress 'em and they react! But we humans seem to just keep adapting to increasingly unsafe levels of dependency on oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with den Beste here on the short term. But one thing is clear. Someone had better begin taking the lead on these issues and at least HELPING the market to &#8220;solve the problem&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bacteria are smarter. Stress &#8216;em and they react! But we humans seem to just keep adapting to increasingly unsafe levels of dependency on oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee do you think that no one is stepping up and saying anything now could be that they haven't even started pulling the dead bodies out of the water!!

Give me a break Jeff!  Were you calling for politicians to come out against terrorism and come up with a plan the day after 9/11?

This is not the time nor the place to ask these questions from your high and safe perch.  


And will you stop with the 250 MPG Prius.  It's an electric car, it's not a hybrid.  

And Angelos, I have read your posts here for quite some time and today you really just went over the top and showed yourself to be the *sshole you really are.  Can't you at least wait until the dead are accounted for before you start lambasting Bush.  You're such a f*cktard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee do you think that no one is stepping up and saying anything now could be that they haven&#8217;t even started pulling the dead bodies out of the water!!</p>
<p>Give me a break Jeff!  Were you calling for politicians to come out against terrorism and come up with a plan the day after 9/11?</p>
<p>This is not the time nor the place to ask these questions from your high and safe perch.  </p>
<p>And will you stop with the 250 MPG Prius.  It&#8217;s an electric car, it&#8217;s not a hybrid.  </p>
<p>And Angelos, I have read your posts here for quite some time and today you really just went over the top and showed yourself to be the *sshole you really are.  Can&#8217;t you at least wait until the dead are accounted for before you start lambasting Bush.  You&#8217;re such a f*cktard!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3581</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paladin, the first oil crisis happened in 1972.  Under Nixon.  A Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paladin, the first oil crisis happened in 1972.  Under Nixon.  A Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3575</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never cease to be amazed at how the American Automobile is always held up as one of the great villain of all time.  Folks, compared to 1967-69, perhaps the peak of the glory years of the "muscle cars," which "gulped" gasoline, and "high 99 octane" Supershell at that, even the big SUV's of today get phenomenal gas milage.   There were cars and trucks back then that didn't even get 10 mpg.  Well, I got news for many of you in cyberland, The United States uses almost NO MIDDLE EASTERN OIL FOR REFINING GASOLINE.  It is too poor of a grade of oil and would be too expensive.  (A chief reason why Europe and Japan pay so much for gasoline.) America uses almost exclusively oil from either domestic sources or from other Western Hemisphere sources, in particular our "friends" in Venezuela which is a much higher grade of oil - "TEXAS SWEET." [All oil in the world is graded against the oil of the "Texas Permian Basin".] 

Can any of you spell "Polyester" or "Plastic?"  Look around you.  In the 1950's most people wore clothes made from COTTON.  Almost all of our bottles, whether they be Milk bottles, Soda bottles, Ketchup bottles, pickle bottles, Clorox bottles, whatever, they were made of GLASS.  There were NO plastic gears in machinery; my â€˜55 pickup truck has almost no plastic - even the instrument panel cover is glass and you'll not find any plastic under the hood; Typewriters (That's a tool that allowed "cavemen" to type letters before the age of computers.)(Even early PC's often had metal cases); TV cabinets (including those inside wood consoles) were metal;  gasoline cans, electric fans, wiring boxes, etc., etc.,etc., were all made of metal.  Not so TODAY!  "TV Dinners" came in aluminum trays.  (The microwave wasn't found in "every" kitchen, or for that matter, very few.  It was a luxury item.)  The only plastic dishes and cups were ones for picnics and even then much of the picnic dishware was metal.   Fast food of the day came in paper bags not Styrofoam containers.   When we put items in the freezer we would wrapped them in freezer or butcher's paper, not in Ziplock Freezer bags.  We used aluminum foil to cover plates and bowls of leftovers before placing them in the refrigerator; although "Tupperware" was becoming a big thing in the 60's.  As kids we took our lunch to school in metal lunch boxes with scenes of our favorite TV shows and our Dad's, and perhaps a few Moms too, took their lunch in either brown bags or in black or silver metal lunch boxes.  Tool boxes were always metal as were fishing tackle boxes.  The advertising signs of the day were either metal (mostly Tin), wood, or paper on wood with lights shining on them at night if they were lighted, or they were neon lights.  On the ranch we had metal feed buckles, metal or concrete watering troughs, metal wheelbarrows, etc., today, it's a different story.  Garbage cans were made entirely of metal including the lids.  The list is endless of how the world has changed.  All around us today we are surrounded by a world of plastic.    That's why we import so much oil.  Not because of automobiles, many which get 3 and 4 times as much mpg as they did in the 1960's, although I can remember one family car in the 50's which got well over 20 mpg - the Old Nash Ambassador, but that was unusual for such a big car, but it was unusual and had many features ahead of its time and a big Ford we got in â€˜68 with a 302 ci V-8 (small in that day of Ford's with 427's, 428's and later 429's and even 460's) got what was then a respectable 18 mpg on the highway at 70 mph.   It's plastic and polyester, people!  Even at that though, the American people aren't even the consumers of all the oil we import.  We're the worlds larger manufacturer of plastic pellets which are then exported to the entire world and we are still a major manufacturer of many products, most of which contained...yeah - PLAISTIC.

50 MPG automobiles are nice, but give me a 1977 pickup truck at the latest if I'm going to use it as a WORK TRUCK.  The new pickups are cars in truck clothing to paraphrase the old saying.  They may be fine for driving to the supermarket or to the concert, but as work trucks, they... stink!  They don't have the weight anymore that is so vital when hauling or moving heavy loads, or towing heavy loads either.  Technically, they can do it, but go around a corner in a Ford F250 from 1977 or 1955 and then go around a corner in a 2005 F250 or even a F350, and you'll quickly notice the difference, especially if you have any speed at all.  You and your passenger will instinctively grab hold as you'll feel the truck leaning and/or sliding as he rounds the turn, whereas the heavy older truck will take the curve almost as well as it takes the straight highway.  The same reason a 12 HP John Deere lawn tractor will out perform a 28 HP Murray or Craftsman - weight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never cease to be amazed at how the American Automobile is always held up as one of the great villain of all time.  Folks, compared to 1967-69, perhaps the peak of the glory years of the &#8220;muscle cars,&#8221; which &#8220;gulped&#8221; gasoline, and &#8220;high 99 octane&#8221; Supershell at that, even the big SUV&#8217;s of today get phenomenal gas milage.   There were cars and trucks back then that didn&#8217;t even get 10 mpg.  Well, I got news for many of you in cyberland, The United States uses almost NO MIDDLE EASTERN OIL FOR REFINING GASOLINE.  It is too poor of a grade of oil and would be too expensive.  (A chief reason why Europe and Japan pay so much for gasoline.) America uses almost exclusively oil from either domestic sources or from other Western Hemisphere sources, in particular our &#8220;friends&#8221; in Venezuela which is a much higher grade of oil - &#8220;TEXAS SWEET.&#8221; [All oil in the world is graded against the oil of the "Texas Permian Basin".] </p>
<p>Can any of you spell &#8220;Polyester&#8221; or &#8220;Plastic?&#8221;  Look around you.  In the 1950&#8217;s most people wore clothes made from COTTON.  Almost all of our bottles, whether they be Milk bottles, Soda bottles, Ketchup bottles, pickle bottles, Clorox bottles, whatever, they were made of GLASS.  There were NO plastic gears in machinery; my â€˜55 pickup truck has almost no plastic - even the instrument panel cover is glass and you&#8217;ll not find any plastic under the hood; Typewriters (That&#8217;s a tool that allowed &#8220;cavemen&#8221; to type letters before the age of computers.)(Even early PC&#8217;s often had metal cases); TV cabinets (including those inside wood consoles) were metal;  gasoline cans, electric fans, wiring boxes, etc., etc.,etc., were all made of metal.  Not so TODAY!  &#8220;TV Dinners&#8221; came in aluminum trays.  (The microwave wasn&#8217;t found in &#8220;every&#8221; kitchen, or for that matter, very few.  It was a luxury item.)  The only plastic dishes and cups were ones for picnics and even then much of the picnic dishware was metal.   Fast food of the day came in paper bags not Styrofoam containers.   When we put items in the freezer we would wrapped them in freezer or butcher&#8217;s paper, not in Ziplock Freezer bags.  We used aluminum foil to cover plates and bowls of leftovers before placing them in the refrigerator; although &#8220;Tupperware&#8221; was becoming a big thing in the 60&#8217;s.  As kids we took our lunch to school in metal lunch boxes with scenes of our favorite TV shows and our Dad&#8217;s, and perhaps a few Moms too, took their lunch in either brown bags or in black or silver metal lunch boxes.  Tool boxes were always metal as were fishing tackle boxes.  The advertising signs of the day were either metal (mostly Tin), wood, or paper on wood with lights shining on them at night if they were lighted, or they were neon lights.  On the ranch we had metal feed buckles, metal or concrete watering troughs, metal wheelbarrows, etc., today, it&#8217;s a different story.  Garbage cans were made entirely of metal including the lids.  The list is endless of how the world has changed.  All around us today we are surrounded by a world of plastic.    That&#8217;s why we import so much oil.  Not because of automobiles, many which get 3 and 4 times as much mpg as they did in the 1960&#8217;s, although I can remember one family car in the 50&#8217;s which got well over 20 mpg - the Old Nash Ambassador, but that was unusual for such a big car, but it was unusual and had many features ahead of its time and a big Ford we got in â€˜68 with a 302 ci V-8 (small in that day of Ford&#8217;s with 427&#8217;s, 428&#8217;s and later 429&#8217;s and even 460&#8217;s) got what was then a respectable 18 mpg on the highway at 70 mph.   It&#8217;s plastic and polyester, people!  Even at that though, the American people aren&#8217;t even the consumers of all the oil we import.  We&#8217;re the worlds larger manufacturer of plastic pellets which are then exported to the entire world and we are still a major manufacturer of many products, most of which contained&#8230;yeah - PLAISTIC.</p>
<p>50 MPG automobiles are nice, but give me a 1977 pickup truck at the latest if I&#8217;m going to use it as a WORK TRUCK.  The new pickups are cars in truck clothing to paraphrase the old saying.  They may be fine for driving to the supermarket or to the concert, but as work trucks, they&#8230; stink!  They don&#8217;t have the weight anymore that is so vital when hauling or moving heavy loads, or towing heavy loads either.  Technically, they can do it, but go around a corner in a Ford F250 from 1977 or 1955 and then go around a corner in a 2005 F250 or even a F350, and you&#8217;ll quickly notice the difference, especially if you have any speed at all.  You and your passenger will instinctively grab hold as you&#8217;ll feel the truck leaning and/or sliding as he rounds the turn, whereas the heavy older truck will take the curve almost as well as it takes the straight highway.  The same reason a 12 HP John Deere lawn tractor will out perform a 28 HP Murray or Craftsman - weight!</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/08/31/oil/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is blaming Bush for the &lt;i&gt;events&lt;/i&gt; in NO, but:
1) I can wonder where the hell the National Guard is, and why.
2) I can wonder WHERE THE HELL Chimpy has been the last 2 days. Was he reading My Pet Goat again? Oh wait, he had to squeeze another couple of campaign speeches in, a little ofr Iraqifying, a little more Medicare destroying.
3) I can wonder why the commander of the US Northern Command had to say "If and when the president decides to step it up and use active duty forces, we will be, and it would be at almost certainly the request of the governor of Louisiana or Missippi... we would be able to respond with any number of options." &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;IF AND WHEN&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;???????
4) Seriously, it took 63 hours from the BEGINNING of the storms to get from Crawford back to DC? And that doesn't include how many fucking days of warning he had? Did he really need to give another stump speech at a country club?

This is the "leader" all you wingers were talking about? Leading you straight into the abyss.

He just doesn't care. He has no morals, no humanity, no sense of responsibility, and no clue.

You've figured that out by now, haven't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is blaming Bush for the <i>events</i> in NO, but:<br />
1) I can wonder where the hell the National Guard is, and why.<br />
2) I can wonder WHERE THE HELL Chimpy has been the last 2 days. Was he reading My Pet Goat again? Oh wait, he had to squeeze another couple of campaign speeches in, a little ofr Iraqifying, a little more Medicare destroying.<br />
3) I can wonder why the commander of the US Northern Command had to say &#8220;If and when the president decides to step it up and use active duty forces, we will be, and it would be at almost certainly the request of the governor of Louisiana or Missippi&#8230; we would be able to respond with any number of options.&#8221; <i><b>IF AND WHEN</b></i>???????<br />
4) Seriously, it took 63 hours from the BEGINNING of the storms to get from Crawford back to DC? And that doesn&#8217;t include how many fucking days of warning he had? Did he really need to give another stump speech at a country club?</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;leader&#8221; all you wingers were talking about? Leading you straight into the abyss.</p>
<p>He just doesn&#8217;t care. He has no morals, no humanity, no sense of responsibility, and no clue.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve figured that out by now, haven&#8217;t you?</p>
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