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		<title>By: Glyn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>Glyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Economist is a friend of America and a staunch supporter of President Bush. When it runs a front page headed &quot;The Shaming of America&quot; that is not being anti-Americanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Economist is a friend of America and a staunch supporter of President Bush. When it runs a front page headed &#8220;The Shaming of America&#8221; that is not being anti-Americanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Nova A</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-7113</link>
		<dc:creator>Nova A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered about a year ago if the BBC was biased, and in 2004 conducted experiments via their on-line &quot;Have Your Say&quot; program, submitted about 100 comments over the year. I discovered that if I submitted liberal-leaning or &quot;mandarin speak&quot; comments, I had about a 1 in 4 chance of being published. None of my conservative comments were published.

If ones tracks &quot;Have Your Say&quot; roundups, one notes that the liberal-leaning comments are placed to the front about 75% of the time, with the conservative comments at the end. 

I&#039;ve studied the BBC&#039;s reports on Katrina over the last few weeks. I perceive them not so much Anti-American as Anti-Federal Administration. They completely avoid discussing the balance of federal, state, and local powers, creating the appearance that emergency response is the sole responsibility of the federal. 

In many cases, Bush&#039;s name is inserted where the word &quot;federal fovernment&quot; or &quot;state government&quot; would be a more accurate choice. When Presidental popularity polls are cited, the BBC consistently chooses the lowest poll results of the 6-8 major polls conducted over the week period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered about a year ago if the BBC was biased, and in 2004 conducted experiments via their on-line &#8220;Have Your Say&#8221; program, submitted about 100 comments over the year. I discovered that if I submitted liberal-leaning or &#8220;mandarin speak&#8221; comments, I had about a 1 in 4 chance of being published. None of my conservative comments were published.</p>
<p>If ones tracks &#8220;Have Your Say&#8221; roundups, one notes that the liberal-leaning comments are placed to the front about 75% of the time, with the conservative comments at the end. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve studied the BBC&#8217;s reports on Katrina over the last few weeks. I perceive them not so much Anti-American as Anti-Federal Administration. They completely avoid discussing the balance of federal, state, and local powers, creating the appearance that emergency response is the sole responsibility of the federal. </p>
<p>In many cases, Bush&#8217;s name is inserted where the word &#8220;federal fovernment&#8221; or &#8220;state government&#8221; would be a more accurate choice. When Presidental popularity polls are cited, the BBC consistently chooses the lowest poll results of the 6-8 major polls conducted over the week period.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Pond</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6980</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on folks -- is the BBC coverage any more &quot;biased&quot; than that of CNN, Fox or MSNBC? It&#039;s OK for domestic media outlets to express outrage, apportion blame and subject those responsible to probing interviews, but the BBC cannot? For the first time in a long time US media organizations put politicians on the spot and demanded answers for the pre/post Katrina fiasco -- the BBC has been doing that for years.

The BBC can never win -- when Labour is in power they are accused of being anti-Labour, when the Tories are in power, they are anti-Tory, so I guess that means that they are pretty fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on folks &#8212; is the BBC coverage any more &#8220;biased&#8221; than that of CNN, Fox or MSNBC? It&#8217;s OK for domestic media outlets to express outrage, apportion blame and subject those responsible to probing interviews, but the BBC cannot? For the first time in a long time US media organizations put politicians on the spot and demanded answers for the pre/post Katrina fiasco &#8212; the BBC has been doing that for years.</p>
<p>The BBC can never win &#8212; when Labour is in power they are accused of being anti-Labour, when the Tories are in power, they are anti-Tory, so I guess that means that they are pretty fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6946</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, JBK, now you&#039;re making personal attacks.  So you&#039;re the twat.
 
  By the way, I am a journalist.  Paid to do it.  Unlike you. 

  Also, my personal politics (something I would never say in broadcast but will let you know here because you accuse me of being a neo-con) are burningly dyed-in-the-wool liberal.  I have never, ever, ever voted Republican.  I hate Drudge, but I read him to know where my enemies lie.  I hate Fox News, and hate them so much that I actually quit a Fox affiliate job in Nashville, TN because of the improper political spin they put on everything (I took the job before the corporation offered the uber-Right opinion about everything, besides it was local).

  So if you haven&#039;t walked out of a job for journalistic integrity, then you really, really, really don&#039;t know what it is like to jump off a financial cliff to do the right thing and be objective.

  So people like you should learn that when Bill Clinton says that the BBC coverage of the hurricane is being mean and unfair, then perhaps, that even from a strong liberal perspective like Clinton&#039;s, it is.

  I didn&#039;t tape the conversation in the car, I couldn&#039;t.  I didn&#039;t have the ability.

  Also, I would say this.  As a person that writes into and out of people&#039;s words every day, I know what their tone was.  I understood what they were saying.  

  It was, in fact, derogatory and insulting.  Period.  

  P.S.  I too have a battery television in the dash of my car.  It takes 3 AA batteries.  Runs for hours.  Check em out at Target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, JBK, now you&#8217;re making personal attacks.  So you&#8217;re the twat.</p>
<p>  By the way, I am a journalist.  Paid to do it.  Unlike you. </p>
<p>  Also, my personal politics (something I would never say in broadcast but will let you know here because you accuse me of being a neo-con) are burningly dyed-in-the-wool liberal.  I have never, ever, ever voted Republican.  I hate Drudge, but I read him to know where my enemies lie.  I hate Fox News, and hate them so much that I actually quit a Fox affiliate job in Nashville, TN because of the improper political spin they put on everything (I took the job before the corporation offered the uber-Right opinion about everything, besides it was local).</p>
<p>  So if you haven&#8217;t walked out of a job for journalistic integrity, then you really, really, really don&#8217;t know what it is like to jump off a financial cliff to do the right thing and be objective.</p>
<p>  So people like you should learn that when Bill Clinton says that the BBC coverage of the hurricane is being mean and unfair, then perhaps, that even from a strong liberal perspective like Clinton&#8217;s, it is.</p>
<p>  I didn&#8217;t tape the conversation in the car, I couldn&#8217;t.  I didn&#8217;t have the ability.</p>
<p>  Also, I would say this.  As a person that writes into and out of people&#8217;s words every day, I know what their tone was.  I understood what they were saying.  </p>
<p>  It was, in fact, derogatory and insulting.  Period.  </p>
<p>  P.S.  I too have a battery television in the dash of my car.  It takes 3 AA batteries.  Runs for hours.  Check em out at Target.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBK,
      It is a Casio handheld TV.  It runs on 4 AA batteries.  Like another poster said, the BBC report was run on the local PBS channel out of Baton Rouge.  We were hit hard by the hurricane, but as my sister told me, so many people are in such worse shape, you feel guilty feeling sorry for yourself.  In my subdivision alone 20 houses were damaged, 6 made uninhabitable.  But we have houses.  My mother lives off the beach in Pass Christian, MS.  Most of her neighbors only have slabs, but they have families.  Some families are separated, but they know they are alive.  Count your blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBK,<br />
      It is a Casio handheld TV.  It runs on 4 AA batteries.  Like another poster said, the BBC report was run on the local PBS channel out of Baton Rouge.  We were hit hard by the hurricane, but as my sister told me, so many people are in such worse shape, you feel guilty feeling sorry for yourself.  In my subdivision alone 20 houses were damaged, 6 made uninhabitable.  But we have houses.  My mother lives off the beach in Pass Christian, MS.  Most of her neighbors only have slabs, but they have families.  Some families are separated, but they know they are alive.  Count your blessings.</p>
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		<title>By: tonynoboloney</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6937</link>
		<dc:creator>tonynoboloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 04:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, c&#039;mon JBK, don&#039;t hold back tell us how you really feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, c&#8217;mon JBK, don&#8217;t hold back tell us how you really feel.</p>
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		<title>By: JBK</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6933</link>
		<dc:creator>JBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 04:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh - I love these right-wing twats on this site who are so outraged!! at the BBC&#039;s coverage of the Bush debacle, but, boy, it&#039;s all so Drudge-like vague for them...the one clown who says he lives &quot;in the hurricane zone&quot; but turned on a small battery powered TV and &quot;happened to catch the BBC one night.&quot; Sure, and I&#039;d love to know the brand name of that TV, that&#039;s some helluva battery...and the &quot;journalist who was driving down to cover&quot; the debacle and just happened to hear BBC on his car radio, but jeez, couldn&#039;t remember any names or details, or else he, you know, would &quot;play them for you.&quot; What a bunch of fucking maroons. Hey dickwads, why don&#039;t you just go on watching Fox and keep telling yourself all is absolutely right with this country under Boy George and his cronies. Then I&#039;m sure you can sleep peacefully. But leave the rest of us out of your fantasies. Scumbags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh &#8211; I love these right-wing twats on this site who are so outraged!! at the BBC&#8217;s coverage of the Bush debacle, but, boy, it&#8217;s all so Drudge-like vague for them&#8230;the one clown who says he lives &#8220;in the hurricane zone&#8221; but turned on a small battery powered TV and &#8220;happened to catch the BBC one night.&#8221; Sure, and I&#8217;d love to know the brand name of that TV, that&#8217;s some helluva battery&#8230;and the &#8220;journalist who was driving down to cover&#8221; the debacle and just happened to hear BBC on his car radio, but jeez, couldn&#8217;t remember any names or details, or else he, you know, would &#8220;play them for you.&#8221; What a bunch of fucking maroons. Hey dickwads, why don&#8217;t you just go on watching Fox and keep telling yourself all is absolutely right with this country under Boy George and his cronies. Then I&#8217;m sure you can sleep peacefully. But leave the rest of us out of your fantasies. Scumbags.</p>
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		<title>By: EverKarl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>EverKarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moreover, I would respectfully suggest to JJ that the current state of relations between the UK and France is not that great.  Consequently, the hypothesis that the BBC coverage here would be in response to US coverage of the French heatwave is only plausible if the BBC&#039;s POV was closer to that of France than of the British gov&#039;t.  And that may be true, but raises additional questions, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moreover, I would respectfully suggest to JJ that the current state of relations between the UK and France is not that great.  Consequently, the hypothesis that the BBC coverage here would be in response to US coverage of the French heatwave is only plausible if the BBC&#8217;s POV was closer to that of France than of the British gov&#8217;t.  And that may be true, but raises additional questions, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 02:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I was listening to the BBC radio the other day when I was driving down to cover the hurricane (I am a newsman) and I can honestly say I was shocked at the cold and furious way they had said some things about what was going on.  I can&#039;t point to specifics, all I know is that the tone of it, like the Americans deserved to die for being so utterly stupid,  incensed me so much that I still remember it weeks later.

  The show transitioned into a talk segment, and all it referred to was the stupidity of living below sea level.  The inherent failures and terrible behavior of the US Govt.  It was obvious that the tone was &quot;you deserved it for who you are.&quot;  Again and again, this was a session where I felt as though, as an American, I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the living hell out of those radio personalities.  Some of them were BBC paid.

 Look, it is one thing to be Rush Limbaugh, it is another thing to be an insensitive, hate spewing Rush Limbaugh-like and be supported financially by a governmental entity.

  I wish I had a recording of what was said.  I would play it for you.  Needless to say, I don&#039;t think I will ever trust that the BBC in a blanket, we&#039;re objective kind of tone.  I wish I could have called in to that program, I would have given them a piece of my mind, for all of their insensitive, oafish, smug, &#039;They got what they deserved&#039; talk that they brought up.

  Disgusting.  And I used to read the BBC everyday.  I used to trust them.  I&#039;ll be damned if I&#039;ll listen to them now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I was listening to the BBC radio the other day when I was driving down to cover the hurricane (I am a newsman) and I can honestly say I was shocked at the cold and furious way they had said some things about what was going on.  I can&#8217;t point to specifics, all I know is that the tone of it, like the Americans deserved to die for being so utterly stupid,  incensed me so much that I still remember it weeks later.</p>
<p>  The show transitioned into a talk segment, and all it referred to was the stupidity of living below sea level.  The inherent failures and terrible behavior of the US Govt.  It was obvious that the tone was &#8220;you deserved it for who you are.&#8221;  Again and again, this was a session where I felt as though, as an American, I wanted to reach through the radio and strangle the living hell out of those radio personalities.  Some of them were BBC paid.</p>
<p> Look, it is one thing to be Rush Limbaugh, it is another thing to be an insensitive, hate spewing Rush Limbaugh-like and be supported financially by a governmental entity.</p>
<p>  I wish I had a recording of what was said.  I would play it for you.  Needless to say, I don&#8217;t think I will ever trust that the BBC in a blanket, we&#8217;re objective kind of tone.  I wish I could have called in to that program, I would have given them a piece of my mind, for all of their insensitive, oafish, smug, &#8216;They got what they deserved&#8217; talk that they brought up.</p>
<p>  Disgusting.  And I used to read the BBC everyday.  I used to trust them.  I&#8217;ll be damned if I&#8217;ll listen to them now.</p>
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		<title>By: abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, equate, or paint the Economist and the BBC with the same brush to prove a self-indulgent point. NOthing about how the Economist stands as perhaps the most fiscally conservative, and quite pro-american publication in Europe - and tends to part with the Republicans in a lot of geo-political positionings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, equate, or paint the Economist and the BBC with the same brush to prove a self-indulgent point. NOthing about how the Economist stands as perhaps the most fiscally conservative, and quite pro-american publication in Europe &#8211; and tends to part with the Republicans in a lot of geo-political positionings.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the other British based blogger tracking BBC bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is the other British based blogger tracking BBC bias.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It was the most comprehensive, and as they have no commercial leanings to a corporation or political leanings to a government party&lt;/i&gt;here and &lt;a href=&quot;http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps you missed my quote from no less than Bill Clinton, no friend of Bush, criticizing the BBC for their reporting.

Do you read you ever read/watch anything besides the BBC for a more balanced perspective?  Bet not.  Better to keep your insular universe intact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It was the most comprehensive, and as they have no commercial leanings to a corporation or political leanings to a government party</i>here and <a href="http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps you missed my quote from no less than Bill Clinton, no friend of Bush, criticizing the BBC for their reporting.</p>
<p>Do you read you ever read/watch anything besides the BBC for a more balanced perspective?  Bet not.  Better to keep your insular universe intact.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an American who lives in Britain and I pretty much stuck with the BBC for the Katrina coverage.  It was the most comprehensive, and as they have no commercial leanings to a corporation or political leanings to a government party, they never shy from depicting things as they are.  No network is completely free of bias, but the BBC was bemused and later, shocked, how the federal government totally and utterly mishandled the crisis.  The BBC is also exhausted with Labour Party spin that it has suffered through for years (and was very stung about the goverment&#039;s claims about going to war with Iraq) and I think the reporting mostly focussed on what Washington was saying versus what the reporters were saying on the ground and what the pictures were showing.  The BBC is brave to show things that the American networks wouldn&#039;t dare touch and I would hardly call coverage of how those responsible have totally and utterly f***ed this up &quot;anti-American&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an American who lives in Britain and I pretty much stuck with the BBC for the Katrina coverage.  It was the most comprehensive, and as they have no commercial leanings to a corporation or political leanings to a government party, they never shy from depicting things as they are.  No network is completely free of bias, but the BBC was bemused and later, shocked, how the federal government totally and utterly mishandled the crisis.  The BBC is also exhausted with Labour Party spin that it has suffered through for years (and was very stung about the goverment&#8217;s claims about going to war with Iraq) and I think the reporting mostly focussed on what Washington was saying versus what the reporters were saying on the ground and what the pictures were showing.  The BBC is brave to show things that the American networks wouldn&#8217;t dare touch and I would hardly call coverage of how those responsible have totally and utterly f***ed this up &#8220;anti-American&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Gunther Says:
&gt;Jarvis. I love the fact that youâ€™re too lazy to even check the facts or actually
&gt; go see what the BBC coverage was like. 

Come on Gunther give Jarvis some credit...he saw it on drudge so why would he need to do any fact checking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Gunther Says:<br />
&gt;Jarvis. I love the fact that youâ€™re too lazy to even check the facts or actually<br />
&gt; go see what the BBC coverage was like. </p>
<p>Come on Gunther give Jarvis some credit&#8230;he saw it on drudge so why would he need to do any fact checking.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;European Union and Canada, Russia and Venezuela are on to the fraud of Bush/Cheney&lt;/i&gt;

Hilarious!!!  But are they on to the frauds they have perpetrated.  Like Putin&#039;s autocratic dismissal of regional governor elections, illegally repatriating YUKOS back to the state for his lackeys to plunder, his human rights violations in Chechnya?  Perhaps you haven&#039;t been aware of the recent Liberal Party scandals in Canada?  

Hugo Chavez is a autocratic psychopath anyway you slice or dice it. The EU&#039;s stagnant economics and bureacratic bloated problems aren&#039;t anything to be commended. 

Apparently you don&#039;t seem to be on to fraud outside of your singularly focused and not well researched universe of the lame hachneyed Bush/Cheney-ruined-my-life/world/whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>European Union and Canada, Russia and Venezuela are on to the fraud of Bush/Cheney</i></p>
<p>Hilarious!!!  But are they on to the frauds they have perpetrated.  Like Putin&#8217;s autocratic dismissal of regional governor elections, illegally repatriating YUKOS back to the state for his lackeys to plunder, his human rights violations in Chechnya?  Perhaps you haven&#8217;t been aware of the recent Liberal Party scandals in Canada?  </p>
<p>Hugo Chavez is a autocratic psychopath anyway you slice or dice it. The EU&#8217;s stagnant economics and bureacratic bloated problems aren&#8217;t anything to be commended. </p>
<p>Apparently you don&#8217;t seem to be on to fraud outside of your singularly focused and not well researched universe of the lame hachneyed Bush/Cheney-ruined-my-life/world/whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Jarvis. I love the fact that youâ€™re too lazy to even check the facts or actually go see what the BBC coverage was like. But you assume there was bias anyway, and then pose the question&lt;/i&gt;

Well, Gunther, even Bill Clinton thought the coverage was &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.ft.com/cms/s/7e6c3c44-2719-11da-b6fe-00000e2511c8.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;biased&lt;/a&gt; also:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Bill Clinton, the former US president, and Sir Howard Stringer, chief executive of Sony Corporation, also criticised the tone of the BBC&#039;s coverage during a seminar on the media at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Jarvis. I love the fact that youâ€™re too lazy to even check the facts or actually go see what the BBC coverage was like. But you assume there was bias anyway, and then pose the question</i></p>
<p>Well, Gunther, even Bill Clinton thought the coverage was <a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/7e6c3c44-2719-11da-b6fe-00000e2511c8.html" rel="nofollow">biased</a> also:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Bill Clinton, the former US president, and Sir Howard Stringer, chief executive of Sony Corporation, also criticised the tone of the BBC&#8217;s coverage during a seminar on the media at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia Jamasmie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6909</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecilia Jamasmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jeff,

Sorry for intruding here. I was researching on Katrina&#039;s coverage and I&#039;ve found your site. 

I just wanted to invite you and your readers to come check out Orato, which aims to be the first content site exclusively devoted to first-person journalism. That is, stories which are told entirely in the first-person voices of eyewitnesses to major events such as the London Subway bombings and day-to-day life in the streets of Baghdad. Weâ€™ll also feature the rants and soliloquies of interesting people in the news.

I donâ€™t want to let the cat out of the bag, but weâ€™re putting together some really great stories on a range of topics: Current Events, Entertainment, Sports, Health and Science, Travel and Adventure, Bad Media (where we watch the watchdog) Love and Friendship, Business and Technology, the ever-mysterious Mystery heading, and something creatively called â€˜Miscellaneousâ€™ for when we canâ€™t think of anywhere else to put it.

Check the Contributor&#039;s Registry which is already online; itâ€™s Oratoâ€™s call to journalists and enthusiastic writers from around the world to get involved. Orato will combine the work of professional journalists and â€œcitizen journalistsâ€: people from 122 countries have already registered and sent us story ideas. 

Weâ€™ll commission and pay for feature stories in the first-person voice, but we will make it possible for anyone, for a small fee, to publish their own stories on the site. And weâ€™ll regularly evaluate pay-to-publish stories that are highly rate by readers, moving the best into the feature window and paying their authors the same rates we pay commissioned authors. Weâ€™re hoping to foster ethical practices and quality reporting in this new medium, and above all, create a forum for great storytelling.

In the registry, we have included sample stories to demonstrate what we mean by first-person news, so please, take a minute to look at the samples, register, and send us your story ideas. And please, feel free to contact us if you have questions


Cecilia Jamasmie
Assignment Editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jeff,</p>
<p>Sorry for intruding here. I was researching on Katrina&#8217;s coverage and I&#8217;ve found your site. </p>
<p>I just wanted to invite you and your readers to come check out Orato, which aims to be the first content site exclusively devoted to first-person journalism. That is, stories which are told entirely in the first-person voices of eyewitnesses to major events such as the London Subway bombings and day-to-day life in the streets of Baghdad. Weâ€™ll also feature the rants and soliloquies of interesting people in the news.</p>
<p>I donâ€™t want to let the cat out of the bag, but weâ€™re putting together some really great stories on a range of topics: Current Events, Entertainment, Sports, Health and Science, Travel and Adventure, Bad Media (where we watch the watchdog) Love and Friendship, Business and Technology, the ever-mysterious Mystery heading, and something creatively called â€˜Miscellaneousâ€™ for when we canâ€™t think of anywhere else to put it.</p>
<p>Check the Contributor&#8217;s Registry which is already online; itâ€™s Oratoâ€™s call to journalists and enthusiastic writers from around the world to get involved. Orato will combine the work of professional journalists and â€œcitizen journalistsâ€: people from 122 countries have already registered and sent us story ideas. </p>
<p>Weâ€™ll commission and pay for feature stories in the first-person voice, but we will make it possible for anyone, for a small fee, to publish their own stories on the site. And weâ€™ll regularly evaluate pay-to-publish stories that are highly rate by readers, moving the best into the feature window and paying their authors the same rates we pay commissioned authors. Weâ€™re hoping to foster ethical practices and quality reporting in this new medium, and above all, create a forum for great storytelling.</p>
<p>In the registry, we have included sample stories to demonstrate what we mean by first-person news, so please, take a minute to look at the samples, register, and send us your story ideas. And please, feel free to contact us if you have questions</p>
<p>Cecilia Jamasmie<br />
Assignment Editor</p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6908</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But then again, what did we say about the French when they let their old people whither and die in a heat wave after they had acted so high and mighty about Iraq?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 


Please. Creating for grandma a cool spot in the Paris heatwave isn&#039;t exactly in the same league as organizing survival for a category 4 hurricane which will soon physically destroy the city.  

If the French couldn&#039;t save grandma with cars, hospitals, roads and powerlines intact just what would those moron&#039;s do if faced with Katrina?  Surrender as always?  They seemed to have surrendered to the weatherman.

Dying in sweltering heat when there aren&#039;t 120 mile an hour winds and flooding outside blocking rescuers is just stupid.   The French deserve to be sneered at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But then again, what did we say about the French when they let their old people whither and die in a heat wave after they had acted so high and mighty about Iraq?&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Please. Creating for grandma a cool spot in the Paris heatwave isn&#8217;t exactly in the same league as organizing survival for a category 4 hurricane which will soon physically destroy the city.  </p>
<p>If the French couldn&#8217;t save grandma with cars, hospitals, roads and powerlines intact just what would those moron&#8217;s do if faced with Katrina?  Surrender as always?  They seemed to have surrendered to the weatherman.</p>
<p>Dying in sweltering heat when there aren&#8217;t 120 mile an hour winds and flooding outside blocking rescuers is just stupid.   The French deserve to be sneered at.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Blair story is interesting - of course Downing Street refuses to comment. The Telegraph of course notes that Murdoch is a competitor of the BBC. As far as Clinton&#039;s remarks go - it would be interesting to see what Dick Parsons had to say about that, since he was on the same panel. It&#039;s somewhat curious that the only report of that is Murdoch&#039;s story, at this point.

Personally - probably some anti-americanism in the world press. Probably some schadenfreude. Probably some nationalism. Probably some honest reporting. And probably some disillusionment. It&#039;s not a simple either/or.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blair story is interesting &#8211; of course Downing Street refuses to comment. The Telegraph of course notes that Murdoch is a competitor of the BBC. As far as Clinton&#8217;s remarks go &#8211; it would be interesting to see what Dick Parsons had to say about that, since he was on the same panel. It&#8217;s somewhat curious that the only report of that is Murdoch&#8217;s story, at this point.</p>
<p>Personally &#8211; probably some anti-americanism in the world press. Probably some schadenfreude. Probably some nationalism. Probably some honest reporting. And probably some disillusionment. It&#8217;s not a simple either/or.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6906</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if any country&#039;s president waited a week to go to the city hit hardest by its nation&#039;s most devistating natural disaster ever,

while people drowned while the cameras rolled

that president/figurehead is ripe for criticism by the media, foreign and domestic.

to even think the word &quot;anti-american&quot; is just as lame as thinking the word &quot;unpatriotic&quot; to people who criticize a war based on lies.

when bushie said &quot;you&#039;re either with us or against us&quot; i had no idea how many intelligent people would drink that super big gulp of kool aid.

fascinating how many are still drinking it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if any country&#8217;s president waited a week to go to the city hit hardest by its nation&#8217;s most devistating natural disaster ever,</p>
<p>while people drowned while the cameras rolled</p>
<p>that president/figurehead is ripe for criticism by the media, foreign and domestic.</p>
<p>to even think the word &#8220;anti-american&#8221; is just as lame as thinking the word &#8220;unpatriotic&#8221; to people who criticize a war based on lies.</p>
<p>when bushie said &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us or against us&#8221; i had no idea how many intelligent people would drink that super big gulp of kool aid.</p>
<p>fascinating how many are still drinking it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6900</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw some BBC coverage (highlights of the week) repeated on my local PBS station. I have to say, what I saw was pretty bad even for them.

A reporter made a sweeping pronouncement that Americans are losing faith in the President to contend with emergencies such as this, then offered a terribly clipped version of the nursing home tragedy. *We* know that the owners of the nursing home are already targetted for litigation. But they pointedly left that part out and presented it as a mystery. &quot;No one knows&quot; how such a thing happened, but in context of the schpiel on Bush, it was implied that it was one more terrible thing that happened because of his incompetence.

It&#039;s like an amplified version of the leftist response at home, stripped of any pretense of rational criticism. Pure pig piling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw some BBC coverage (highlights of the week) repeated on my local PBS station. I have to say, what I saw was pretty bad even for them.</p>
<p>A reporter made a sweeping pronouncement that Americans are losing faith in the President to contend with emergencies such as this, then offered a terribly clipped version of the nursing home tragedy. *We* know that the owners of the nursing home are already targetted for litigation. But they pointedly left that part out and presented it as a mystery. &#8220;No one knows&#8221; how such a thing happened, but in context of the schpiel on Bush, it was implied that it was one more terrible thing that happened because of his incompetence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like an amplified version of the leftist response at home, stripped of any pretense of rational criticism. Pure pig piling.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6899</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jersey, don&#039;t be such a dork--I was clearly talking about Jew hatred.  Unless you are suggesting that Jew hatred cannot be discussed unless it is related to muslims.  You are likely correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jersey, don&#8217;t be such a dork&#8211;I was clearly talking about Jew hatred.  Unless you are suggesting that Jew hatred cannot be discussed unless it is related to muslims.  You are likely correct.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorj</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6896</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I normally don&#039;t get to see the BBC but one night about 3 AM I caught a report by Matt Frei concerning Hurricane Katrina.  It was about day 5 after the storm.  I am in the hurricane zone and, being without electricity and having no air conditioning, I could not sleep in the sweltering heat.  I turned on a small battery powered TV and there he was having a fit that the dead had not been picked up.  He kept harrasing the rescue workers with questions about how such a terrible thing could happen.  These rescuers, many of whom had lost their homes and were separated from their own families, looked at him like one would look at a pesty mosquito but they remained polite.  Then it happened.  Here is a quote I will never forget.  &quot;The U.S. will go around the world to retrieve one dead soldier, but they leave their own citizens rotting in the sun.&quot;  These rescuers were still in the process of trying to find the living.  They had nothing to do with President Bush.  It was just a snarky, classless remark to put the U.S down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally don&#8217;t get to see the BBC but one night about 3 AM I caught a report by Matt Frei concerning Hurricane Katrina.  It was about day 5 after the storm.  I am in the hurricane zone and, being without electricity and having no air conditioning, I could not sleep in the sweltering heat.  I turned on a small battery powered TV and there he was having a fit that the dead had not been picked up.  He kept harrasing the rescue workers with questions about how such a terrible thing could happen.  These rescuers, many of whom had lost their homes and were separated from their own families, looked at him like one would look at a pesty mosquito but they remained polite.  Then it happened.  Here is a quote I will never forget.  &#8220;The U.S. will go around the world to retrieve one dead soldier, but they leave their own citizens rotting in the sun.&#8221;  These rescuers were still in the process of trying to find the living.  They had nothing to do with President Bush.  It was just a snarky, classless remark to put the U.S down.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunther</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6895</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarvis. I love the fact that you&#039;re too lazy to even check the facts or actually go see what the BBC coverage was like. But you assume there was bias anyway, and then pose the question, What caused it?. Is this what you&#039;re going to be teaching the journalism students at CUNY? To be factually illiterate but knowledgeable about every technology under the sun? I&#039;d suggest that the first thing you should cover in your course curriculum is how to use Google. Maybe that will be way to get you to start using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarvis. I love the fact that you&#8217;re too lazy to even check the facts or actually go see what the BBC coverage was like. But you assume there was bias anyway, and then pose the question, What caused it?. Is this what you&#8217;re going to be teaching the journalism students at CUNY? To be factually illiterate but knowledgeable about every technology under the sun? I&#8217;d suggest that the first thing you should cover in your course curriculum is how to use Google. Maybe that will be way to get you to start using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marina Architect</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/18/schadenfreude-as-media-bias/#comment-6894</link>
		<dc:creator>Marina Architect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manufactured veneer of image making are a disservice to all of us the world over. The electricity for Bush&#039;s speech was unplugged when he left, the firefighters and heavy equipment in his photo ops were just props. By the way, without being shamed by the world press(not just us here in the US), Brownie would still be on the job. Chertoff is the real failure, DHS and not FEMA is the true first reponder. Chertoff thought he dodged a bullet and didn&#039;t act quickly: he&#039;s the failure. Bush has delegated this first responder task to Chertoff: Chertoff is accountable here directly. 

BBC Coverage and the Economist Article are both on target and accurate. The cats been out of the bag big time since Abu Graib: that was the defining moment in world sentiment. Watch PBS Frontline, all the world&#039;s dictators and despots were created and fuded by our government. 

Welcome to Web 2.0, image making is over: Europen Union and Canada, Russia and Venezuela are on to the fraud of Bush/Cheney. China, Japan and Saudia Arabia are in blind denial and continue to buy our Treasury debt which finances our incompetence, war profiteering and special interest corporate profits. We have the highest per capita (that&#039;s per person) spending on healthcare while not having Universal Healthcare and the most uninsured. We are a not the great nation that our well-polished media convey.  I say this out of love for the US and as a Patriot, what do we have that Canada and France do not. Our processed food and mass culture have spread: the exception is the the intellectuals and artists of course. We need to change our government together. We need to open source our government.

Here&#039;s an idea: with Web 2.0, raising big money will become unnecessary to run for office. We can connect 24/7 at negligible cost. It will no longer take 30M to run for office. Let&#039;s build up organic support for candidates with integrity online. The only issue is that we are out-numbered by deluded bible thumpers. Bush still has 40% support. His support should be 0%! 

With Web 2.0, the Bush/Cheney Rackateering Operation has been exposed though still continues. Rove had a Texas state staff member who questioned his voting record in Texas, fired with just a quick phone call. That&#039;s how the mob works: she was wacked Bush style. All the cronyism is beyond disguting and dangerous. Bush/Cheny are guiltyof RICO Rackateering. I&#039;m tired of empty gestures. Are you? Let&#039;s tip this cow over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manufactured veneer of image making are a disservice to all of us the world over. The electricity for Bush&#8217;s speech was unplugged when he left, the firefighters and heavy equipment in his photo ops were just props. By the way, without being shamed by the world press(not just us here in the US), Brownie would still be on the job. Chertoff is the real failure, DHS and not FEMA is the true first reponder. Chertoff thought he dodged a bullet and didn&#8217;t act quickly: he&#8217;s the failure. Bush has delegated this first responder task to Chertoff: Chertoff is accountable here directly. </p>
<p>BBC Coverage and the Economist Article are both on target and accurate. The cats been out of the bag big time since Abu Graib: that was the defining moment in world sentiment. Watch PBS Frontline, all the world&#8217;s dictators and despots were created and fuded by our government. </p>
<p>Welcome to Web 2.0, image making is over: Europen Union and Canada, Russia and Venezuela are on to the fraud of Bush/Cheney. China, Japan and Saudia Arabia are in blind denial and continue to buy our Treasury debt which finances our incompetence, war profiteering and special interest corporate profits. We have the highest per capita (that&#8217;s per person) spending on healthcare while not having Universal Healthcare and the most uninsured. We are a not the great nation that our well-polished media convey.  I say this out of love for the US and as a Patriot, what do we have that Canada and France do not. Our processed food and mass culture have spread: the exception is the the intellectuals and artists of course. We need to change our government together. We need to open source our government.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea: with Web 2.0, raising big money will become unnecessary to run for office. We can connect 24/7 at negligible cost. It will no longer take 30M to run for office. Let&#8217;s build up organic support for candidates with integrity online. The only issue is that we are out-numbered by deluded bible thumpers. Bush still has 40% support. His support should be 0%! </p>
<p>With Web 2.0, the Bush/Cheney Rackateering Operation has been exposed though still continues. Rove had a Texas state staff member who questioned his voting record in Texas, fired with just a quick phone call. That&#8217;s how the mob works: she was wacked Bush style. All the cronyism is beyond disguting and dangerous. Bush/Cheny are guiltyof RICO Rackateering. I&#8217;m tired of empty gestures. Are you? Let&#8217;s tip this cow over.</p>
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