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		<title>By: The framing of the shrew</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-381530</link>
		<dc:creator>The framing of the shrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you know, anybody can gather facts. But as Jeff Jarvis once reminded us, the reporter&#8217;s job is to spoonfeed us the &#8220;lesson.&#8221; For our own [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony M. Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-374305</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony M. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in Jefferson Parish Here's something I thought your readers may find this of interest. I've posted below the results of a four-year survey address first responder training and readiness. Given the answers from the respondents, things generally don't look that good.

The Homeland Security Group conducted a four-year survey addressing training, readiness and a variety of challenges faced by First Responders. Respondents of the survey included law enforcement, security, intelligence, emergency management personnel and other members engaged in homeland security and first response duties. The results of this survey show that after the attacks in September 2001, inadequacies remain regarding first responder preparation.


PRLog (Press Release) - April 30, 2008 - The survey focused on three main areas of concentration: Training, Hindrances and whether first responders feel they are adequately protected from a secondary attack. The questions posed during the survey address levels of readiness contrasting criminal vs. terror investigations.

Training

Respondents were asked if they believe their agency has received proper training to determine differences between a criminal vs. terror incident. Of those responding to the survey, 58 percent stated they lack sufficient training. Many respondents indicated they lack sufficient training in WMD-related preparedness. Others described information sharing issues. While this initially appears to fit within the category of hindrances, many indicated that they lack proper training regarding who to share with, how to initiate and maintain communication and what issues specifically require external coordination.

Hindrances

Respondents were asked three questions regarding whether the media, public or their own self-expectations hindered a criminal vs. a terror investigation. Responses indicate that 91 percent consider that the media poses a hindrance; 87 percent believe public expectations hinder an investigation, and 94 percent blame their own personal expectations as an encumbrance.

Preparation for Secondary Attack

Respondents were asked if they believe they are adequately protected from secondary attacks during a possible criminal or terrorist incident. The survey shows that 91 percent of those responding feel they are not protected. Numerous comments by respondents indicated they actually expect a secondary attack during a terrorist incident but they lack training, resources and personnel for such an event.

Homeland Security Group founder, Anthony M. Davis began this survey four years ago intending to measure the readiness level of first responders. â€œI hoped to find some successes throughout the survey that could be translated to agencies nationwideâ€, he said. â€œYet, throughout the measurement period, the numbers remained constant. While weâ€™ve been very busy as a nation, we may not have been overly successful in preparing and protecting our personnel. Thereâ€™s plenty of work to be done still.â€

Mr. Anthony M. Davis began publishing the Homeland Security Report as a free service to law enforcement, intelligence, security and emergency management personnel in October 2001. Each report is an open source view of homeland security issues and provides select officer safety information. Based on the ongoing results of the survey and discussions with first responders worldwide, Anthony M. Davis began authoring â€œTerrorism and the Maritime Transportation System.â€ 

According to Mr. Davis, â€œThis book is not so much about terrorism. It is intended as a guide to provide first responders a view of the perspective need for readiness in the face of a potential attack.â€The expected availability of the new text, â€œTerrorism and the Maritime Transportation Systemâ€ is in May 2008. 

More information on the Homeland Security Group is available at http://www.homelandsecuritygroup.info

Contact Information 
admin@homelandsecuritygroup.info


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in Jefferson Parish Here&#8217;s something I thought your readers may find this of interest. I&#8217;ve posted below the results of a four-year survey address first responder training and readiness. Given the answers from the respondents, things generally don&#8217;t look that good.</p>
<p>The Homeland Security Group conducted a four-year survey addressing training, readiness and a variety of challenges faced by First Responders. Respondents of the survey included law enforcement, security, intelligence, emergency management personnel and other members engaged in homeland security and first response duties. The results of this survey show that after the attacks in September 2001, inadequacies remain regarding first responder preparation.</p>
<p>PRLog (Press Release) - April 30, 2008 - The survey focused on three main areas of concentration: Training, Hindrances and whether first responders feel they are adequately protected from a secondary attack. The questions posed during the survey address levels of readiness contrasting criminal vs. terror investigations.</p>
<p>Training</p>
<p>Respondents were asked if they believe their agency has received proper training to determine differences between a criminal vs. terror incident. Of those responding to the survey, 58 percent stated they lack sufficient training. Many respondents indicated they lack sufficient training in WMD-related preparedness. Others described information sharing issues. While this initially appears to fit within the category of hindrances, many indicated that they lack proper training regarding who to share with, how to initiate and maintain communication and what issues specifically require external coordination.</p>
<p>Hindrances</p>
<p>Respondents were asked three questions regarding whether the media, public or their own self-expectations hindered a criminal vs. a terror investigation. Responses indicate that 91 percent consider that the media poses a hindrance; 87 percent believe public expectations hinder an investigation, and 94 percent blame their own personal expectations as an encumbrance.</p>
<p>Preparation for Secondary Attack</p>
<p>Respondents were asked if they believe they are adequately protected from secondary attacks during a possible criminal or terrorist incident. The survey shows that 91 percent of those responding feel they are not protected. Numerous comments by respondents indicated they actually expect a secondary attack during a terrorist incident but they lack training, resources and personnel for such an event.</p>
<p>Homeland Security Group founder, Anthony M. Davis began this survey four years ago intending to measure the readiness level of first responders. â€œI hoped to find some successes throughout the survey that could be translated to agencies nationwideâ€, he said. â€œYet, throughout the measurement period, the numbers remained constant. While weâ€™ve been very busy as a nation, we may not have been overly successful in preparing and protecting our personnel. Thereâ€™s plenty of work to be done still.â€</p>
<p>Mr. Anthony M. Davis began publishing the Homeland Security Report as a free service to law enforcement, intelligence, security and emergency management personnel in October 2001. Each report is an open source view of homeland security issues and provides select officer safety information. Based on the ongoing results of the survey and discussions with first responders worldwide, Anthony M. Davis began authoring â€œTerrorism and the Maritime Transportation System.â€ </p>
<p>According to Mr. Davis, â€œThis book is not so much about terrorism. It is intended as a guide to provide first responders a view of the perspective need for readiness in the face of a potential attack.â€The expected availability of the new text, â€œTerrorism and the Maritime Transportation Systemâ€ is in May 2008. </p>
<p>More information on the Homeland Security Group is available at <a href="http://www.homelandsecuritygroup.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandsecuritygroup.info</a></p>
<p>Contact Information<br />
<a href="mailto:admin@homelandsecuritygroup.info">admin@homelandsecuritygroup.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: politicalpartypoop.com - Politics and other stuff in life that stinks &#187; The Future of Blogging</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-120544</link>
		<dc:creator>politicalpartypoop.com - Politics and other stuff in life that stinks &#187; The Future of Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Future of Blogging   By Snoop Rocky Mtn Blogger Bash attendees The Jarvis post *Jarvis responds World Wide Rant Resurrection Song The Blog of the Century of the Week Rocky Mountain News Linda Seebach [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Goldstein&#8217;s CJR, episode 2</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-120106</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Goldstein&#8217;s CJR, episode 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rocky Mtn Blogger Bash attendees The Jarvis post *Jarvis responds World Wide Rant Resurrection Song The Blog of the Century of the Week Rocky Mountain News Linda Seebach [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mag</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-30780</link>
		<dc:creator>Mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy, this appears to be a case of a bunch of elected officials in the New Orleans area circling the wagons and protecting their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy, this appears to be a case of a bunch of elected officials in the New Orleans area circling the wagons and protecting their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-8198</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It was an attempt to discredit the storyâ€™s teller in order to deny the storyâ€™s meaning."

Lemme guess: Dan Rather on the pajama-swarm.

Right?  Am I right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was an attempt to discredit the storyâ€™s teller in order to deny the storyâ€™s meaning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lemme guess: Dan Rather on the pajama-swarm.</p>
<p>Right?  Am I right?</p>
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		<title>By: Ironbear</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-8163</link>
		<dc:creator>Ironbear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 01:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm dissapointed in you, Jeff.

So much for all your earlier railings against the media-as-gatekeepers from a year or two a ago. And goodbye to all that, hey? Fiction be like cool as long as it serves a Greater Truth. Fake but accurate.

Kind of like you, only without the accurate.

I &lt;i&gt;didn't&lt;/i&gt; say it before, but Iâ€™ll say it &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;: You sirrah, are a fraud and a charlatan. And a credit to your former profession it would seem - you've placed yourself in equal company with all of the so-called 'journalists' who turned out nice, nifty, &lt;i&gt;false&lt;/i&gt; peices of unpleasant fiction under the guise of "reporting".

Once a "journalist", always a "journalist". And yes, I did mean to use that as an epithet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m dissapointed in you, Jeff.</p>
<p>So much for all your earlier railings against the media-as-gatekeepers from a year or two a ago. And goodbye to all that, hey? Fiction be like cool as long as it serves a Greater Truth. Fake but accurate.</p>
<p>Kind of like you, only without the accurate.</p>
<p>I <i>didn&#8217;t</i> say it before, but Iâ€™ll say it <i>now</i>: You sirrah, are a fraud and a charlatan. And a credit to your former profession it would seem - you&#8217;ve placed yourself in equal company with all of the so-called &#8216;journalists&#8217; who turned out nice, nifty, <i>false</i> peices of unpleasant fiction under the guise of &#8220;reporting&#8221;.</p>
<p>Once a &#8220;journalist&#8221;, always a &#8220;journalist&#8221;. And yes, I did mean to use that as an epithet.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7953</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernie you have no idea what you are talking about.</description>
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		<title>By: Ernie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTP lives or dies on the strength of its guests: what they say, and (even better for ratings), how they emote.  Russert's going for a "gotcha" kept us all watching (for better or for worse).  Decisions on his TV-life-expectancy postponed for the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTP lives or dies on the strength of its guests: what they say, and (even better for ratings), how they emote.  Russert&#8217;s going for a &#8220;gotcha&#8221; kept us all watching (for better or for worse).  Decisions on his TV-life-expectancy postponed for the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7879</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yeah, Chancy?  As you know, I do too.  You'll get them.  I promise.  What we got today is only a baby prelude.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yeah, Chancy?  As you know, I do too.  You&#8217;ll get them.  I promise.  What we got today is only a baby prelude&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Chancy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7872</link>
		<dc:creator>Chancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eileen said----

I look forward to full hearings, and the exposure of *all* facts regarding Katrina." 

Eileen, I also look forward to full INDEPENDENT hearings re Katrina but I am not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen said&#8212;-</p>
<p>I look forward to full hearings, and the exposure of *all* facts regarding Katrina.&#8221; </p>
<p>Eileen, I also look forward to full INDEPENDENT hearings re Katrina but I am not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: David Fleck</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7843</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Lessons are what weâ€™re after.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Jeff, seriously, &lt;i&gt;screw you&lt;/i&gt;.  Give me the facts, and I can figure out my own lessons.   If you want to teach "lessons", go run a Sunday school. I do not want some moralizing jackass preaching at me under cover of "journalism".
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lessons are what weâ€™re after.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jeff, seriously, <i>screw you</i>.  Give me the facts, and I can figure out my own lessons.   If you want to teach &#8220;lessons&#8221;, go run a Sunday school. I do not want some moralizing jackass preaching at me under cover of &#8220;journalism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Fat Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7840</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fat Guy &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, click there and then click to the home page, and then just scroll and read. It&#8217;s pretty much what I would write, if I cared enough to write about the mediots. But I don&#8217;t, and it&#8217;s because of the mountains of bullshit shoveled by the mediot bloggers: Too much of journalism is turning this way today: If we nitpick the facts and follow some rules some committee wrote up, weâ€™ll be safe; weâ€™re doing our jobs. No, sir, our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after. Pardon my French, but fuck that shit. You, Jeffro, are not here to give me lessons. You, Jeffro, and all your little butt-buddies are here to report the facts, not rumor and speculation. Yet even today, in another horseshit follow-up, we get this: It was bad in many ways we donâ€™t even know. Spot the logical fallacy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, click there and then click to the home page, and then just scroll and read. It&#8217;s pretty much what I would write, if I cared enough to write about the mediots. But I don&#8217;t, and it&#8217;s because of the mountains of bullshit shoveled by the mediot bloggers: Too much of journalism is turning this way today: If we nitpick the facts and follow some rules some committee wrote up, weâ€™ll be safe; weâ€™re doing our jobs. No, sir, our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after. Pardon my French, but fuck that shit. You, Jeffro, are not here to give me lessons. You, Jeffro, and all your little butt-buddies are here to report the facts, not rumor and speculation. Yet even today, in another horseshit follow-up, we get this: It was bad in many ways we donâ€™t even know. Spot the logical fallacy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seeing the forest for the flood</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7832</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seeing the forest for the flood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That&#8217;s one of the points I was trying to get to in the post below on the correction of one mistaken story out of New Orleans. I clearly didn&#8217;t express myself well enough and stirred the hornets, so let me make the damned fool mistake of trying again: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s one of the points I was trying to get to in the post below on the correction of one mistaken story out of New Orleans. I clearly didn&#8217;t express myself well enough and stirred the hornets, so let me make the damned fool mistake of trying again: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7828</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owl1 writes: &lt;i&gt;"I have asked over and over, what exactly did the Feds do wrong?"&lt;/i&gt;

I have never seen an answer to this question.

I too, have asked it several times, right here.  It is always ignored.

If the feds share the blame:
What exactly should President Bush have done...and exactly when...and exactly what difference would said action have made.

If Nagin had used Amtrak and the buses prior to the storm, and Blanco had not delayed allowing the use of soldiers to protect the FEMA people so they were able to work the minute they got there....what exactly should Bush have done that he didn't do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owl1 writes: <i>&#8220;I have asked over and over, what exactly did the Feds do wrong?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I have never seen an answer to this question.</p>
<p>I too, have asked it several times, right here.  It is always ignored.</p>
<p>If the feds share the blame:<br />
What exactly should President Bush have done&#8230;and exactly when&#8230;and exactly what difference would said action have made.</p>
<p>If Nagin had used Amtrak and the buses prior to the storm, and Blanco had not delayed allowing the use of soldiers to protect the FEMA people so they were able to work the minute they got there&#8230;.what exactly should Bush have done that he didn&#8217;t do?</p>
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		<title>By: owl 1</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7826</link>
		<dc:creator>owl 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the media ran with Broussard's performance, you just knew they were having another fanasty of AWOL.   If this is not Memogate, what is?  AWOL never had any evidence, but did that stop them from producing excellent journalism?  Only thing missing was a factual leg to stand on.   And  someone nitpicked even their fake but accurate memos. 

Lance summed it up with "suckered by a local scam artist" and "cancer of our state".  Or as I put it from Day 1.... he's lying. 

JJ wants to attack all levels of government.  My question is why?  If one level was worse than another, why not say so.  Gov Blanco, Sen Landrieu and Mayor Nagin were pointing fingers immediately.  People were still trapped.   I have asked over and over, what exactly did the Feds do wrong?  If you are going to blame them, I need to know why.  It is not that I doubt there were mistakes at all levels, I am sure there is enough blame to spread around with a 90,000 sq mile disaster.  I want to know why you think you must distribute the blame in equal amounts?  Why not facts instead of appearances?  

Only a few questions that need to be asked and answered.  Who had the authority to send in LA National Guards, Red Cross food and water  and those nice dry school buses sitting empty in Baton Rouge?  Such simple questions that I would think even a "professional" journalist could manage.  Call me a nitpicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the media ran with Broussard&#8217;s performance, you just knew they were having another fanasty of AWOL.   If this is not Memogate, what is?  AWOL never had any evidence, but did that stop them from producing excellent journalism?  Only thing missing was a factual leg to stand on.   And  someone nitpicked even their fake but accurate memos. </p>
<p>Lance summed it up with &#8220;suckered by a local scam artist&#8221; and &#8220;cancer of our state&#8221;.  Or as I put it from Day 1&#8230;. he&#8217;s lying. </p>
<p>JJ wants to attack all levels of government.  My question is why?  If one level was worse than another, why not say so.  Gov Blanco, Sen Landrieu and Mayor Nagin were pointing fingers immediately.  People were still trapped.   I have asked over and over, what exactly did the Feds do wrong?  If you are going to blame them, I need to know why.  It is not that I doubt there were mistakes at all levels, I am sure there is enough blame to spread around with a 90,000 sq mile disaster.  I want to know why you think you must distribute the blame in equal amounts?  Why not facts instead of appearances?  </p>
<p>Only a few questions that need to be asked and answered.  Who had the authority to send in LA National Guards, Red Cross food and water  and those nice dry school buses sitting empty in Baton Rouge?  Such simple questions that I would think even a &#8220;professional&#8221; journalist could manage.  Call me a nitpicker.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7825</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact the woman died is certainly a tragedy.
The fact that Broussard was blaming the Feds brings politics into an individual data point.
If Broussard specifically blames one level of gov't at an early time, based on a false fact, then the issue of the fact becomes crucial for blame designation.  He was using her death for politics; and misusing her death by relating a false story.

The truth is Mayor Nagin GAMBLED about Katrina and "no flooding" -- but he lost; and some hundreds of people in NO lost their lives because of the gamble (and not using school busses for evacuation).  Nobody deserves more blame than the Mayor.  

We can NOT fix problems, unless we accurately describe what the problem is.

But if he HAD strongly evacuated, and Katrina caused very little damage, he would have been highly resented.  Uncertain future negative events are not quite "facts", but are not well dealt with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact the woman died is certainly a tragedy.<br />
The fact that Broussard was blaming the Feds brings politics into an individual data point.<br />
If Broussard specifically blames one level of gov&#8217;t at an early time, based on a false fact, then the issue of the fact becomes crucial for blame designation.  He was using her death for politics; and misusing her death by relating a false story.</p>
<p>The truth is Mayor Nagin GAMBLED about Katrina and &#8220;no flooding&#8221; &#8212; but he lost; and some hundreds of people in NO lost their lives because of the gamble (and not using school busses for evacuation).  Nobody deserves more blame than the Mayor.  </p>
<p>We can NOT fix problems, unless we accurately describe what the problem is.</p>
<p>But if he HAD strongly evacuated, and Katrina caused very little damage, he would have been highly resented.  Uncertain future negative events are not quite &#8220;facts&#8221;, but are not well dealt with.</p>
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		<title>By: shark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7820</link>
		<dc:creator>shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m attacking all levels of government and I donâ€™t want to let any of them off the hook&lt;/i&gt;

WHat a load....notice how anyone using the phrase "all levels of government" invariably focus like a laser on the Feds?

Just like you are Jarvis.

What's that you say? I'm factlually wrong? Well, facts are nothing, you can't invalidate the larger truth here!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™m attacking all levels of government and I donâ€™t want to let any of them off the hook</i></p>
<p>WHat a load&#8230;.notice how anyone using the phrase &#8220;all levels of government&#8221; invariably focus like a laser on the Feds?</p>
<p>Just like you are Jarvis.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that you say? I&#8217;m factlually wrong? Well, facts are nothing, you can&#8217;t invalidate the larger truth here!</p>
<p>LIAR</p>
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		<title>By: The Anchoress &#187; A tip of the hat to CBS</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7819</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anchoress &#187; A tip of the hat to CBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday Meyer posted a thoughtful and slightly combative piece on the Mars-and-Venus differences between journalists and bloggers, taking umbrage in particular at Jeff Jarvis who wrote (in a piece dissecting Tim Russert&#8217;s second interview with Aaron Broussard), &#8220;Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday Meyer posted a thoughtful and slightly combative piece on the Mars-and-Venus differences between journalists and bloggers, taking umbrage in particular at Jeff Jarvis who wrote (in a piece dissecting Tim Russert&#8217;s second interview with Aaron Broussard), &#8220;Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7818</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the LA Times realizes that the Real Story about Katrina was the media's factual meltdown (&lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rumors27sep27,0,5492806,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Katrina Takes a Toll on Truth, News Accuracy"&lt;/a&gt;), so it's incredibly lame to continue defending the "emotion over reason" angle that prompted this post (back on Brian Oberkirch's blog).

Television news has apparently realized that it can't compete with print and blogs on the mere reportage of accurate information; it doesn't have the bandwidth, and the audience doesn' t have the attention span. So they're gone back to their Dan-Rather-and-the-hurricane roots and offered us pure, tabloid sensationalism.

Some journo-bloggers are threatened by this because they realize the selling power of TV's cheap melodrama, so they want to steer the blogosphere in that direction. Blogs are still a text medium, so this isn't going to work. 

Let's accept our limitations and do what we can in our respective media: blogs can put accurate information out and analyze it to death; TV can present raw emotion, faked or otherwise, entrancing morons and children. Neither medium can be all things to all people.

Damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the LA Times realizes that the Real Story about Katrina was the media&#8217;s factual meltdown (<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rumors27sep27,0,5492806,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Katrina Takes a Toll on Truth, News Accuracy&#8221;</a>), so it&#8217;s incredibly lame to continue defending the &#8220;emotion over reason&#8221; angle that prompted this post (back on Brian Oberkirch&#8217;s blog).</p>
<p>Television news has apparently realized that it can&#8217;t compete with print and blogs on the mere reportage of accurate information; it doesn&#8217;t have the bandwidth, and the audience doesn&#8217; t have the attention span. So they&#8217;re gone back to their Dan-Rather-and-the-hurricane roots and offered us pure, tabloid sensationalism.</p>
<p>Some journo-bloggers are threatened by this because they realize the selling power of TV&#8217;s cheap melodrama, so they want to steer the blogosphere in that direction. Blogs are still a text medium, so this isn&#8217;t going to work. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s accept our limitations and do what we can in our respective media: blogs can put accurate information out and analyze it to death; TV can present raw emotion, faked or otherwise, entrancing morons and children. Neither medium can be all things to all people.</p>
<p>Damn.</p>
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		<title>By: shark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7816</link>
		<dc:creator>shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Too much of journalism is turning this way today: If we nitpick the facts and follow some rules some committee wrote up, weâ€™ll be safe; weâ€™re doing our jobs. No, sir, our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after&lt;/i&gt;

What a load of crap. You can't even get FACTS straight, now you think you're qualified to give us "truths" and "lessons"?

WHo's truths do you want to use Mr. Jarvis? Something tells me you won't like the "truths" and "lessons" that don't toe a certain political line.

And where does a lightweight entertainment infoscrub like yourself dare to comment on real journalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Too much of journalism is turning this way today: If we nitpick the facts and follow some rules some committee wrote up, weâ€™ll be safe; weâ€™re doing our jobs. No, sir, our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after</i></p>
<p>What a load of crap. You can&#8217;t even get FACTS straight, now you think you&#8217;re qualified to give us &#8220;truths&#8221; and &#8220;lessons&#8221;?</p>
<p>WHo&#8217;s truths do you want to use Mr. Jarvis? Something tells me you won&#8217;t like the &#8220;truths&#8221; and &#8220;lessons&#8221; that don&#8217;t toe a certain political line.</p>
<p>And where does a lightweight entertainment infoscrub like yourself dare to comment on real journalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7815</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it against a law to go on national TV and attempt to incite a riot against the federal government with lies?  If not ...it should be.

What good is any of this blather unless something comes of it?

For instance, last year Blanco's incompetence with Hurricane Ivan hurt human beings...and she went on to do worse this year.  Last year would have killed many as well, but Ivan co-operated.

&lt;i&gt;Last year, when Hurricane Ivan threatened, Ms. Blanco was indecisive and lacked anything resembling leadership or authority.  The contra-flow lanes on the Interstate system were opened far too late to be of any help and motorists were stranded on the road as the storm approached, unable to reach safety.  Further, sick and elderly evacuees died from the horribly long waits in traffic. &lt;/i&gt;http://www.cornpone.net/2005/09/impeach_blanco.html

Here's a post from September 2004:

http://www.cornpone.net/2004/09/big_easy_escape.html

&lt;i&gt;In the meantime, a one-finger salute to our government officials here in Louisiana for the horrible effort at evacuation. Had Ivan taken a western turn, this would have been not only a major blow to New Orleans but a major loss of life. &lt;/i&gt;

Why are these clowns still in office and not in jail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it against a law to go on national TV and attempt to incite a riot against the federal government with lies?  If not &#8230;it should be.</p>
<p>What good is any of this blather unless something comes of it?</p>
<p>For instance, last year Blanco&#8217;s incompetence with Hurricane Ivan hurt human beings&#8230;and she went on to do worse this year.  Last year would have killed many as well, but Ivan co-operated.</p>
<p><i>Last year, when Hurricane Ivan threatened, Ms. Blanco was indecisive and lacked anything resembling leadership or authority.  The contra-flow lanes on the Interstate system were opened far too late to be of any help and motorists were stranded on the road as the storm approached, unable to reach safety.  Further, sick and elderly evacuees died from the horribly long waits in traffic. </i><a href="http://www.cornpone.net/2005/09/impeach_blanco.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornpone.net/2005/09/impeach_blanco.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a post from September 2004:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cornpone.net/2004/09/big_easy_escape.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornpone.net/2004/09/big_easy_escape.html</a></p>
<p><i>In the meantime, a one-finger salute to our government officials here in Louisiana for the horrible effort at evacuation. Had Ivan taken a western turn, this would have been not only a major blow to New Orleans but a major loss of life. </i></p>
<p>Why are these clowns still in office and not in jail?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Anybody can get facts" brought me up short, as well, Jeff.  I think that's an unnecessarily provocative way of saying that, often in journalism, fact collection is just the beginning.  It scans as: getting the facts is the easy part, and frequently that is not the case at all.  Might be worth clarifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anybody can get facts&#8221; brought me up short, as well, Jeff.  I think that&#8217;s an unnecessarily provocative way of saying that, often in journalism, fact collection is just the beginning.  It scans as: getting the facts is the easy part, and frequently that is not the case at all.  Might be worth clarifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Insufficiently Sensitive</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7806</link>
		<dc:creator>Insufficiently Sensitive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Authenticity with passion is more than facts, and is independent of ideology."

And huge multitudes of media liars know this, and do their very best to use passion to trump authenticity - as in CNN telling its interview subjects to 'get mad'.  Hurl accusations against the Feds with no concern for the legal chain of responsibility.  Use human distress due to natural forces as the propellant for  missiles against a President who was accused, with very small basis, as being responsible for it all.  

He honorably apologized for those mistakes the Feds made, which were in their line of responsibility.  The media liars paint that apology as an abject confession of turpitude encompassing the whole disaster - for which the first responders at City and State level bear the great majority of the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Authenticity with passion is more than facts, and is independent of ideology.&#8221;</p>
<p>And huge multitudes of media liars know this, and do their very best to use passion to trump authenticity - as in CNN telling its interview subjects to &#8216;get mad&#8217;.  Hurl accusations against the Feds with no concern for the legal chain of responsibility.  Use human distress due to natural forces as the propellant for  missiles against a President who was accused, with very small basis, as being responsible for it all.  </p>
<p>He honorably apologized for those mistakes the Feds made, which were in their line of responsibility.  The media liars paint that apology as an abject confession of turpitude encompassing the whole disaster - for which the first responders at City and State level bear the great majority of the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/26/correcting-the-facts-and-missing-the-truth/#comment-7805</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>". . . our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after."

With the greatest respect Jeff: you are correct insofar as you observe that the best journalism offers more than reportage of facts.  But everything of value that journalism offers &lt;i&gt;begins&lt;/i&gt; with facts.  Facts are the &lt;i&gt;sine qua non&lt;/i&gt; of journalism, even if they are not the sum of it.  Journalism that does not begin with accurate facts is worthless because "truth," "justice," and "lessons" founded on fiction are illusory.  Yes, give me analysis and passion.  But first, be sure of your facts.  

As others have observed, there are plenty of true facts to support an indictment of the federal response to Katrina.  Why not stick to those?  And kudos to Tim Russert for taking the responsibility as a journalist to correct the factual record as publicly as it was initially distorted on his watch.  Would that all journalists shared his regard for factual accuracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;. . . our job is to get more than the facts. Anybody can get facts. Facts are the commodity. The truth is harder to find. Justice is harder to fight for. Lessons are what weâ€™re after.&#8221;</p>
<p>With the greatest respect Jeff: you are correct insofar as you observe that the best journalism offers more than reportage of facts.  But everything of value that journalism offers <i>begins</i> with facts.  Facts are the <i>sine qua non</i> of journalism, even if they are not the sum of it.  Journalism that does not begin with accurate facts is worthless because &#8220;truth,&#8221; &#8220;justice,&#8221; and &#8220;lessons&#8221; founded on fiction are illusory.  Yes, give me analysis and passion.  But first, be sure of your facts.  </p>
<p>As others have observed, there are plenty of true facts to support an indictment of the federal response to Katrina.  Why not stick to those?  And kudos to Tim Russert for taking the responsibility as a journalist to correct the factual record as publicly as it was initially distorted on his watch.  Would that all journalists shared his regard for factual accuracy.</p>
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