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	<title>Comments on: Poor woman&#8217;s West Wing</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-10833</link>
		<dc:creator>blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not impressed with this show either.  It is lacking something. I am not sure Davis is convincing enough as a predisdent.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Appelo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-8257</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Appelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should've starred Susan Sarandon.</description>
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		<title>By: frankbruno</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-8224</link>
		<dc:creator>frankbruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catherine --

Dennis Hopper was actually pretty excited about it, if Entertainment Weekly is to be believed (and it almost always is!).  Apparently he's turned hard-core Republican.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catherine &#8211;</p>
<p>Dennis Hopper was actually pretty excited about it, if Entertainment Weekly is to be believed (and it almost always is!).  Apparently he&#8217;s turned hard-core Republican.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7982</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was semi-interesting, I'll probably tune in a few more times to see how it develops. If I were "Mr. First Lady" though, I'd have tossed out that chick that was showing me around in a matter of seconds and tossed the pink sofa out behind her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was semi-interesting, I&#8217;ll probably tune in a few more times to see how it develops. If I were &#8220;Mr. First Lady&#8221; though, I&#8217;d have tossed out that chick that was showing me around in a matter of seconds and tossed the pink sofa out behind her.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lester</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7958</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it just reminds me that I missed "NCIS" and "My Name is Earl" again last night. Maybe it's time to get a TiVO after all.

Having missed "C in C" but reading everybody's reviews, I wonder, could they be purposefully portraying a ditzy fictional president to make Hillary look strong and competent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it just reminds me that I missed &#8220;NCIS&#8221; and &#8220;My Name is Earl&#8221; again last night. Maybe it&#8217;s time to get a TiVO after all.</p>
<p>Having missed &#8220;C in C&#8221; but reading everybody&#8217;s reviews, I wonder, could they be purposefully portraying a ditzy fictional president to make Hillary look strong and competent?</p>
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		<title>By: brabc1</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7950</link>
		<dc:creator>brabc1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have watched the second half of the Bob Dylan special (PBS).  I never realized his background and how deep he really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have watched the second half of the Bob Dylan special (PBS).  I never realized his background and how deep he really is.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7931</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 ratings do not mean anything for a premiere. It means it had good long-lead promotion, which it did. The true test is the next few weeks. 

#1 ratings do not also mean it is a good show, merely a highly watched show. 

And here's guessing Eric from moveleft will watch a few more times and if it is like Jed Bartlett's white house he will like it.

This has to be the dumbest post of the week: "Why donâ€™t you kiddies go back to constantly bashing the NYT and Dan Rather and leave the media analysis to experts."  Who exactly are the "experts"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 ratings do not mean anything for a premiere. It means it had good long-lead promotion, which it did. The true test is the next few weeks. </p>
<p>#1 ratings do not also mean it is a good show, merely a highly watched show. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s guessing Eric from moveleft will watch a few more times and if it is like Jed Bartlett&#8217;s white house he will like it.</p>
<p>This has to be the dumbest post of the week: &#8220;Why donâ€™t you kiddies go back to constantly bashing the NYT and Dan Rather and leave the media analysis to experts.&#8221;  Who exactly are the &#8220;experts&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jaffa</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7930</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jaffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBK -

The ratings next week will say more about what the public thought of the pilot episode than the ratings for the pilot itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBK -</p>
<p>The ratings next week will say more about what the public thought of the pilot episode than the ratings for the pilot itself.</p>
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		<title>By: JBK</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>JBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, it turns out CIC was the #1 rated show of the night. Guess Buzzflash and his acolytes are not quite as representative of America as they think. Why don't you kiddies go back to constantly bashing the NYT and Dan Rather and leave the media analysis to experts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, it turns out CIC was the #1 rated show of the night. Guess Buzzflash and his acolytes are not quite as representative of America as they think. Why don&#8217;t you kiddies go back to constantly bashing the NYT and Dan Rather and leave the media analysis to experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't watch Commander in Chief, but I did watch E-Ring last week.  Now THAT was bad.  I think I rolled my eyes about 800 times.  So cliche, so unrealistic, such bad acting.  How did poor Dennis Hopper get roped into that one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t watch Commander in Chief, but I did watch E-Ring last week.  Now THAT was bad.  I think I rolled my eyes about 800 times.  So cliche, so unrealistic, such bad acting.  How did poor Dennis Hopper get roped into that one?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Jaffa</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7911</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jaffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't like it or hate it.

I'll probably watch the next couple of epsisodes and then decide whether to watch more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like it or hate it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably watch the next couple of epsisodes and then decide whether to watch more.</p>
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		<title>By: whodat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7907</link>
		<dc:creator>whodat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait--you people actually watched that? And thought it might be good?
C'mon now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8211;you people actually watched that? And thought it might be good?<br />
C&#8217;mon now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Superwoody</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7902</link>
		<dc:creator>Superwoody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only liked the token jabs at Hillary being a bitch when she was in the WH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only liked the token jabs at Hillary being a bitch when she was in the WH.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7898</link>
		<dc:creator>Monte Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One minor redeeming feature: Donald Sutherland beginning to snack on the scenery, and obviously preparing to chew the lights and mike boom next...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One minor redeeming feature: Donald Sutherland beginning to snack on the scenery, and obviously preparing to chew the lights and mike boom next&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MarleneJaeckel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Commander in Chief&#8221; disappointment</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7895</link>
		<dc:creator>MarleneJaeckel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Commander in Chief&#8221; disappointment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Looks like I&#8217;m not the only person who did not think much of the new ABC drama &#8220;Commander in Chief&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Looks like I&#8217;m not the only person who did not think much of the new ABC drama &#8220;Commander in Chief&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ppr</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7891</link>
		<dc:creator>ppr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have watched The Amazing Race Family.....much more exciting!! All the way to the last minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have watched The Amazing Race Family&#8230;..much more exciting!! All the way to the last minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted the pilot episode was nothing to be excited about.  I grew tired of both the Hillary Clinton shots and the cardboard Republicans.  I will, however, give the show a couple more episodes before throwing in the towel.  Hell, I hated the West Wing for several episodes, but continued to watch because nothing better was on. Tuesday night is not one of the strongest nights of television, but I can always find somethng else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted the pilot episode was nothing to be excited about.  I grew tired of both the Hillary Clinton shots and the cardboard Republicans.  I will, however, give the show a couple more episodes before throwing in the towel.  Hell, I hated the West Wing for several episodes, but continued to watch because nothing better was on. Tuesday night is not one of the strongest nights of television, but I can always find somethng else.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Fuchs</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fuchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scratching the seven year itch - unsatisfying.

The show's only redeeming quality seems to be in renewing a long-existing deep love affair for the West Wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scratching the seven year itch - unsatisfying.</p>
<p>The show&#8217;s only redeeming quality seems to be in renewing a long-existing deep love affair for the West Wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7885</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;â€œListen, missy, a girl canâ€™t be President!â€&lt;/i&gt;

You must have seen the promo!

The theme is at least 20 years too late. Both major political parties now have strong women that a majority of partisans would be overjoyed to see in the White House. One party has been an admirer of Brit PM Thatcher since the 80s, and the other party had a female VP candidate in the 80s. The current pres has women advising him at very high levels. It's just not the issue it once was.

Judging from another new "show" I've seen this season, there seems to be a new push to use badly-scripted network dramas to promote hoary old liberal ideas like "Americans are still too lunkheaded to accept a female president". This other one, a show I wanted to like because of the performers, was split between a lawyer in court giving long, uninterrupted speeches about the evils of intelligent design, and an amorphous tale about a short man who didn't think people were taking his murder seriously enough. I think the message was supposed to be "human rights for diminutive murderers", but I'm not really sure, and the writers certainly weren't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>â€œListen, missy, a girl canâ€™t be President!â€</i></p>
<p>You must have seen the promo!</p>
<p>The theme is at least 20 years too late. Both major political parties now have strong women that a majority of partisans would be overjoyed to see in the White House. One party has been an admirer of Brit PM Thatcher since the 80s, and the other party had a female VP candidate in the 80s. The current pres has women advising him at very high levels. It&#8217;s just not the issue it once was.</p>
<p>Judging from another new &#8220;show&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen this season, there seems to be a new push to use badly-scripted network dramas to promote hoary old liberal ideas like &#8220;Americans are still too lunkheaded to accept a female president&#8221;. This other one, a show I wanted to like because of the performers, was split between a lawyer in court giving long, uninterrupted speeches about the evils of intelligent design, and an amorphous tale about a short man who didn&#8217;t think people were taking his murder seriously enough. I think the message was supposed to be &#8220;human rights for diminutive murderers&#8221;, but I&#8217;m not really sure, and the writers certainly weren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7883</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever she has to play anger at terrorists or mean people or whoever, I bet she just thinks about Renny Harlin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever she has to play anger at terrorists or mean people or whoever, I bet she just thinks about Renny Harlin.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7881</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats your grade for the real thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats your grade for the real thing</p>
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		<title>By: rick gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7876</link>
		<dc:creator>rick gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

Don't demean a C-... This show wasn't even that good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t demean a C-&#8230; This show wasn&#8217;t even that good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mumblix Grumph</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7875</link>
		<dc:creator>Mumblix Grumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the show...were there a lot of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bad White MenÂ®&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; saying things like "Listen, missy, a girl can't be President!"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the show&#8230;were there a lot of <i><b>Bad White MenÂ®</b></i> saying things like &#8220;Listen, missy, a girl can&#8217;t be President!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Shovelware</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/27/poor-womans-west-wing/#comment-7874</link>
		<dc:creator>Shovelware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Coming Attractions: Net Porn, Brown Power.&lt;/strong&gt;

This blogging thing is thirsty work. It makes cleaning the Augean stables look like 10 minutes' work with some Lemon Pledge and plenty of Handi-Wipes. I've been under the hammer of a dozen deadlines, hence my absence from the bully...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Coming Attractions: Net Porn, Brown Power.</strong></p>
<p>This blogging thing is thirsty work. It makes cleaning the Augean stables look like 10 minutes&#8217; work with some Lemon Pledge and plenty of Handi-Wipes. I&#8217;ve been under the hammer of a dozen deadlines, hence my absence from the bully&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tonynoboloney</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonynoboloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't very impressed with the speech either.</description>
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