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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-73801</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a long time user of Dell computers - BUT NO MORE. It cannot be poor planning that would cause such a premier companies tech support to plunge so quickly. Had to be a conscience business decision - what a rip!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a long time user of Dell computers - BUT NO MORE. It cannot be poor planning that would cause such a premier companies tech support to plunge so quickly. Had to be a conscience business decision - what a rip!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: M. de Carnesie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-48622</link>
		<dc:creator>M. de Carnesie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family is on our fifth Dell, three in current use.  Dell was the Rolls Royce of  
small business and home computers, along with the best tech support -- note I speak in the PAST TENSE.  In the past two - three years their customer service has sunk to the lowest possible level, and of the three PC's we now have, only the oldest, an Inspiron 8200, has not had hardware replacements.

The accent of the Indian techs is not the biggest problem, it is their refusal to open their ears and listen.  I would like to go there with a baseball bat, not to 
harm them, but to make the listen.  When I wrote a letter of complaint to Dell I got back a canned reply about their great service.  

Anyway, Dell has lost a family of customers as well as a small business customer, forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family is on our fifth Dell, three in current use.  Dell was the Rolls Royce of<br />
small business and home computers, along with the best tech support &#8212; note I speak in the PAST TENSE.  In the past two - three years their customer service has sunk to the lowest possible level, and of the three PC&#8217;s we now have, only the oldest, an Inspiron 8200, has not had hardware replacements.</p>
<p>The accent of the Indian techs is not the biggest problem, it is their refusal to open their ears and listen.  I would like to go there with a baseball bat, not to<br />
harm them, but to make the listen.  When I wrote a letter of complaint to Dell I got back a canned reply about their great service.  </p>
<p>Anyway, Dell has lost a family of customers as well as a small business customer, forever.</p>
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		<title>By: edwin kok</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-21057</link>
		<dc:creator>edwin kok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Edwin Kok</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-21056</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Kok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an new Dimension 5150 after one day the WindowsXp Home edition is crashed.
I need new audio and new Ati Dell drivers . I can not find the drivers on the Ati or Dell site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an new Dimension 5150 after one day the WindowsXp Home edition is crashed.<br />
I need new audio and new Ati Dell drivers . I can not find the drivers on the Ati or Dell site</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Kok</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-21055</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Kok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a new Dimension 5150 after one day the WindowsXp Home edition is crashed.
I need new audio and new Ati Dell drivers.  I can not find the drivers on the Ati or Dell site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a new Dimension 5150 after one day the WindowsXp Home edition is crashed.<br />
I need new audio and new Ati Dell drivers.  I can not find the drivers on the Ati or Dell site.</p>
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		<title>By: James Devine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-18259</link>
		<dc:creator>James Devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell Financial is practicing usury.  I've been satisfied with the product I bought but there financial practices are ridiculous and, I believe, illegal.  I will be closing my account by the end of the month and will never have anything to do with these turds again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell Financial is practicing usury.  I&#8217;ve been satisfied with the product I bought but there financial practices are ridiculous and, I believe, illegal.  I will be closing my account by the end of the month and will never have anything to do with these turds again.</p>
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		<title>By: Willmark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-17640</link>
		<dc:creator>Willmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 14:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You have to envy Apple to an extent. They have saved customers from themselves by including high-dollar support into their profit margins whether customers want it or not. Dell could make Gold Technical Support the default option and automatically add $250 to every system. What would you have? Apple."

You have to add a heck of a lot more than that to make it to Apple's level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to envy Apple to an extent. They have saved customers from themselves by including high-dollar support into their profit margins whether customers want it or not. Dell could make Gold Technical Support the default option and automatically add $250 to every system. What would you have? Apple.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to add a heck of a lot more than that to make it to Apple&#8217;s level.</p>
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		<title>By: E.G. Feldman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-17554</link>
		<dc:creator>E.G. Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must express my surprise that there our others  having tech,repair,and replacement problems with "Dell". I state this in a total sarcasatic manner! I had six major incidents since purchasing a Dell Diminsion 3000 which had upgrades included in the price along with 3 year limited warranty. 
                  The desktop was delivered on April 27,2005, and I spent a total of 22 hours calling Dell,waiting on hold and last but not least being dis- connected bye tech. support,customer care and repairs 17 times. Every 
component of the desktop was replaced a very intelligent agent who is sub-contracted by Dell to install the refurbushed parts(ex.motherboard,160mb hard drive,every internal part possible from the chip to the fans) and on Nov.3,2007 seven months after my purchase the computer DIED! I was given a service exchange and 26 days later to my surprise I recieved a (NEW?) E310 desktop. I had gotten a better model than the Dell 3000 but I discoved there was a CATCH 22. Since I was told by 3 techs.and someone from the service dept. that my desktop I was going to recieve would have the same specs or better than the orginal model there should have been no problems! The E310's shipping invoice nothing concerning the 3 year warranty, nor did it meet the specs as they promiosed me when I called or even when a tech. called to ask me if everything was OK! When I stated that the (2) 512MB modules from the Dell 3000 were not conpatable with the E310- ddr2-sdram vs ddr-sdram in the 3000.I was tranferred to 4 depts. each telling me that a Senior supervisor had to evaluate this problem. 
          I have decided that it is not worth my time or effort to spend valuable time trying to have a discussion with a company that is totally unaware that the average consumer is the providing this Corporation with a base to have individuals to upgrade to higher priced units. When you lost touch with the public,and fail to listen to problems, you eventually lose the  bottom line and you had better sell a great amount of the $3500 systems because you are losing the high profit margins on the mass produced low end models that Dell used to be able to turn over it's money. 
          I am sorry that I was so foolish in purchasing this desktop in the first place,and I feel even worse reading over my comments because so many other people have had experiences that make mine seem meaningless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must express my surprise that there our others  having tech,repair,and replacement problems with &#8220;Dell&#8221;. I state this in a total sarcasatic manner! I had six major incidents since purchasing a Dell Diminsion 3000 which had upgrades included in the price along with 3 year limited warranty.<br />
                  The desktop was delivered on April 27,2005, and I spent a total of 22 hours calling Dell,waiting on hold and last but not least being dis- connected bye tech. support,customer care and repairs 17 times. Every<br />
component of the desktop was replaced a very intelligent agent who is sub-contracted by Dell to install the refurbushed parts(ex.motherboard,160mb hard drive,every internal part possible from the chip to the fans) and on Nov.3,2007 seven months after my purchase the computer DIED! I was given a service exchange and 26 days later to my surprise I recieved a (NEW?) E310 desktop. I had gotten a better model than the Dell 3000 but I discoved there was a CATCH 22. Since I was told by 3 techs.and someone from the service dept. that my desktop I was going to recieve would have the same specs or better than the orginal model there should have been no problems! The E310&#8217;s shipping invoice nothing concerning the 3 year warranty, nor did it meet the specs as they promiosed me when I called or even when a tech. called to ask me if everything was OK! When I stated that the (2) 512MB modules from the Dell 3000 were not conpatable with the E310- ddr2-sdram vs ddr-sdram in the 3000.I was tranferred to 4 depts. each telling me that a Senior supervisor had to evaluate this problem.<br />
          I have decided that it is not worth my time or effort to spend valuable time trying to have a discussion with a company that is totally unaware that the average consumer is the providing this Corporation with a base to have individuals to upgrade to higher priced units. When you lost touch with the public,and fail to listen to problems, you eventually lose the  bottom line and you had better sell a great amount of the $3500 systems because you are losing the high profit margins on the mass produced low end models that Dell used to be able to turn over it&#8217;s money.<br />
          I am sorry that I was so foolish in purchasing this desktop in the first place,and I feel even worse reading over my comments because so many other people have had experiences that make mine seem meaningless!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Employee</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-17369</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me first say that Yes, Dell's support has declined. No employee can honestly argue against that statement. That should pacify half of you.

(Let me also say that with rare exception, 99.9% of support agents you speak to really want to fix your problems. Accents are a fact of life and they feel as disappointed as you that they couldn't clearly communicate their instructions to customers. I have witnessed Indian-ethnicity support agents in our U.S. call centers cry because they were reamed by callers within seconds of answering the call before they could even finish their introduction. Be respectful and courteous and you will be treated the same. If you cannot understand the technician, you're always free to request a call back from another person or say goodbye and try calling again; No reason to be disrespectful over something that person can't change.)

It's worth noting that until earlier this year, Dell was the only company in the industry to offer lifetime tech and software support. Think about that; Back in 2000 when I worked phone support, we took calls on systems built in '94 running Win3.x or even DOS, we helped grandmothers and aspiring PC techs rebuild and troubleshoot their systems and taught them where to find drivers and how to install them -- All this years after their hardware warranties had expired. No other company, even Microsoft itself, does this for life (for free). In response to industry-wide cost-cutting, pressure from the Lenovo and HPaq's of the world, Dell's sought ways to stay on top. Enter OVERSEAS SUPPORT, LIMITED-TIME WARRANTIES and the $399 SYSTEM. These are the big 3 initiatives that kept Dell afloat for stockholders and have simultaneously caused the deterioration in support that blogs like this love to dissect.

$399 systems mean profits almost literally in the single-digit dollars range, but it gets millions of systems out the door.  That 1 in 50 customer who needs support will get their answer, but now only for 90 days (standard default warranty) or 1-4 years, depending on which options the customer *CHOSE* when buying the system. You really do get what you pay for. You have to realize that paying $399 for a computer with a 90 day warranty is a great deal, but you're taking a voluntary risk by foregoing bells and whistles, in this case an extended warranty and/or U.S. support from certified technicians (Gold Tech. Support). Expecting more is simply unreasonable. You don't buy a 3.99 meal at McDonald's and expect silverware, steak meals or a waiter to tend to your needs. However, you CAN opt to buy an extended warranty or simply one that specifically offers U.S.-based support. They're highlighted and bolded in the online configurator as upsells, so no one can claim they didn't know better support was available.

You have to envy Apple to an extent. They have saved customers from themselves by including high-dollar support into their profit margins whether customers want it or not. Dell could make Gold Technical Support the default option and automatically add $250 to every system. What would you have? Apple.

However, Dell realizes that tech-savvy customers don't want to pay for tech support when they know they could build their own systems for $399. So Dell offers the same or (arguably) better quality system with minimal support and instantly wins that customer base. What you have in blogs like this is folks choosing standard (minimum-cost) support and expecting GOLD service. Dell simply starts at the bare minimum and leaves it to customers to choose for themselves. Blogs like this are only cursing them for giving customers options.

If choice scares you, get an Apple, or vote Republican. (kidding)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me first say that Yes, Dell&#8217;s support has declined. No employee can honestly argue against that statement. That should pacify half of you.</p>
<p>(Let me also say that with rare exception, 99.9% of support agents you speak to really want to fix your problems. Accents are a fact of life and they feel as disappointed as you that they couldn&#8217;t clearly communicate their instructions to customers. I have witnessed Indian-ethnicity support agents in our U.S. call centers cry because they were reamed by callers within seconds of answering the call before they could even finish their introduction. Be respectful and courteous and you will be treated the same. If you cannot understand the technician, you&#8217;re always free to request a call back from another person or say goodbye and try calling again; No reason to be disrespectful over something that person can&#8217;t change.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that until earlier this year, Dell was the only company in the industry to offer lifetime tech and software support. Think about that; Back in 2000 when I worked phone support, we took calls on systems built in &#8216;94 running Win3.x or even DOS, we helped grandmothers and aspiring PC techs rebuild and troubleshoot their systems and taught them where to find drivers and how to install them &#8212; All this years after their hardware warranties had expired. No other company, even Microsoft itself, does this for life (for free). In response to industry-wide cost-cutting, pressure from the Lenovo and HPaq&#8217;s of the world, Dell&#8217;s sought ways to stay on top. Enter OVERSEAS SUPPORT, LIMITED-TIME WARRANTIES and the $399 SYSTEM. These are the big 3 initiatives that kept Dell afloat for stockholders and have simultaneously caused the deterioration in support that blogs like this love to dissect.</p>
<p>$399 systems mean profits almost literally in the single-digit dollars range, but it gets millions of systems out the door.  That 1 in 50 customer who needs support will get their answer, but now only for 90 days (standard default warranty) or 1-4 years, depending on which options the customer *CHOSE* when buying the system. You really do get what you pay for. You have to realize that paying $399 for a computer with a 90 day warranty is a great deal, but you&#8217;re taking a voluntary risk by foregoing bells and whistles, in this case an extended warranty and/or U.S. support from certified technicians (Gold Tech. Support). Expecting more is simply unreasonable. You don&#8217;t buy a 3.99 meal at McDonald&#8217;s and expect silverware, steak meals or a waiter to tend to your needs. However, you CAN opt to buy an extended warranty or simply one that specifically offers U.S.-based support. They&#8217;re highlighted and bolded in the online configurator as upsells, so no one can claim they didn&#8217;t know better support was available.</p>
<p>You have to envy Apple to an extent. They have saved customers from themselves by including high-dollar support into their profit margins whether customers want it or not. Dell could make Gold Technical Support the default option and automatically add $250 to every system. What would you have? Apple.</p>
<p>However, Dell realizes that tech-savvy customers don&#8217;t want to pay for tech support when they know they could build their own systems for $399. So Dell offers the same or (arguably) better quality system with minimal support and instantly wins that customer base. What you have in blogs like this is folks choosing standard (minimum-cost) support and expecting GOLD service. Dell simply starts at the bare minimum and leaves it to customers to choose for themselves. Blogs like this are only cursing them for giving customers options.</p>
<p>If choice scares you, get an Apple, or vote Republican. (kidding)</p>
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		<title>By: Willmark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-16954</link>
		<dc:creator>Willmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or better yet, yet another reason to not buy a Dell.

To all: This doesn't come down to a Mac or PC thing either there are plenty of other PC manufacturers out there that may quite good PCs. Anything is better than Dell who is nothing more than the Walmart of computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or better yet, yet another reason to not buy a Dell.</p>
<p>To all: This doesn&#8217;t come down to a Mac or PC thing either there are plenty of other PC manufacturers out there that may quite good PCs. Anything is better than Dell who is nothing more than the Walmart of computers.</p>
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		<title>By: kathy n</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-16407</link>
		<dc:creator>kathy n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Dell Hell, I have been in it since Nov. 9th with no satisfaction.  I ordered a nice new Dell on Nov 9th and it was slated to arrive via UPS on Nov. 16.   Only the monitor arrived.  No PC.  Finally on the 18th UPS told me and Dell that the system was lost and to file a claim and tracer.  Since the evening of the 16th (when my local ups already had told me it was lost but to wait til the 17th) I called Dell and got the Indians.   I have called them literally 40 times a day since and have had no satisfaction.   On the 22nd of Nov I finally was able to find someone in this country that claimed to be from their executive offices that would expedite my refund (by this time I never wanted to deal with Dell again and did not want another computer.   They had refused to send me a new one until UPS either paid them back for the lost one or found the one I had ordered.

Anyway the person in this country has been promising me since the 22nd that I would get my refund overnite and today is Dec 3 and no refund!!   The monitor went back to them 10 over a week ago (and that took some doing!!!  the indians never sent ups to pick it up!!) and ups found the other computer and returned it to Dell 5 days ago.  Still no refund!!   My only consolation is that on Dec. 22nd my bank card is going to credit me back inspite of Dell.   Unfortunately my bank said they had to give them 30 days to credit me back after I put it in the dispute dept.  Don't wait to dispute the charge with your bank if you have charged one.   Do it right away because it is a long wait to get any satisfaction.   The new date for my refund to go thru is next monday but I am not holding my breath.  I have heard this since Nov. 22nd.   I will never do business again with Dell.   In fact I bought a new HP the other day and it is wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Dell Hell, I have been in it since Nov. 9th with no satisfaction.  I ordered a nice new Dell on Nov 9th and it was slated to arrive via UPS on Nov. 16.   Only the monitor arrived.  No PC.  Finally on the 18th UPS told me and Dell that the system was lost and to file a claim and tracer.  Since the evening of the 16th (when my local ups already had told me it was lost but to wait til the 17th) I called Dell and got the Indians.   I have called them literally 40 times a day since and have had no satisfaction.   On the 22nd of Nov I finally was able to find someone in this country that claimed to be from their executive offices that would expedite my refund (by this time I never wanted to deal with Dell again and did not want another computer.   They had refused to send me a new one until UPS either paid them back for the lost one or found the one I had ordered.</p>
<p>Anyway the person in this country has been promising me since the 22nd that I would get my refund overnite and today is Dec 3 and no refund!!   The monitor went back to them 10 over a week ago (and that took some doing!!!  the indians never sent ups to pick it up!!) and ups found the other computer and returned it to Dell 5 days ago.  Still no refund!!   My only consolation is that on Dec. 22nd my bank card is going to credit me back inspite of Dell.   Unfortunately my bank said they had to give them 30 days to credit me back after I put it in the dispute dept.  Don&#8217;t wait to dispute the charge with your bank if you have charged one.   Do it right away because it is a long wait to get any satisfaction.   The new date for my refund to go thru is next monday but I am not holding my breath.  I have heard this since Nov. 22nd.   I will never do business again with Dell.   In fact I bought a new HP the other day and it is wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Willmark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-16142</link>
		<dc:creator>Willmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the logic of "I have never had an issue with Dell, therefore the user must be at fault" that is being put forth by several posters in this thread.

Being heavily involved with tech support I will freely admit most user have no clue what they are doing, but we are not talking about users here. The real issue is Dell. Dell makes such shoddy computers that even a Banana Jr 2000 woudl be better. And just because you bandy about: "I've never had a problem with my Dell" doesn't mean that plenty of other people don't either". We replace so many Dell HDs and motherboards its sad.

I mean get real selling a computer for $399, and people expect it to be quality? Get a grip people. My company buys somewhat better than that and they are still crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the logic of &#8220;I have never had an issue with Dell, therefore the user must be at fault&#8221; that is being put forth by several posters in this thread.</p>
<p>Being heavily involved with tech support I will freely admit most user have no clue what they are doing, but we are not talking about users here. The real issue is Dell. Dell makes such shoddy computers that even a Banana Jr 2000 woudl be better. And just because you bandy about: &#8220;I&#8217;ve never had a problem with my Dell&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean that plenty of other people don&#8217;t either&#8221;. We replace so many Dell HDs and motherboards its sad.</p>
<p>I mean get real selling a computer for $399, and people expect it to be quality? Get a grip people. My company buys somewhat better than that and they are still crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jelen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-12805</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Jelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purchased a High end XPS w/500gb drive all the trimmings in July and by Oct 10 days after the warranty ends's the hard drive fails ?? What give's Dell sells a machine that has the life span of a throw away camera, and you would think that they would At the least cover a drive for more than 90 days. I guess the CEO's need to fund their pensions some how by taking the public. Next time Ill pay somebody else to build something that  Stand's Behind their product . All there creditability just flushed down gutter any one need a 500gb paper weight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purchased a High end XPS w/500gb drive all the trimmings in July and by Oct 10 days after the warranty ends&#8217;s the hard drive fails ?? What give&#8217;s Dell sells a machine that has the life span of a throw away camera, and you would think that they would At the least cover a drive for more than 90 days. I guess the CEO&#8217;s need to fund their pensions some how by taking the public. Next time Ill pay somebody else to build something that  Stand&#8217;s Behind their product . All there creditability just flushed down gutter any one need a 500gb paper weight?</p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-11010</link>
		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Well itâ€™s nice to know that Dell thinks catering to this high profit niche market will make them money, but what about all of the people who have bought Dell in that past that arenâ€™t privvy to this â€œXPSâ€ hotline?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over that thought, Brian. A large percentge of the people they are trying to sell the XPS line to, guys like me, enthusiasts, build their own machines. I'd say in the high 90% range.

I will say one good thing about Dell, they send me allot of side work because people just give up trying to use their super awesome, great warranties.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Well itâ€™s nice to know that Dell thinks catering to this high profit niche market will make them money, but what about all of the people who have bought Dell in that past that arenâ€™t privvy to this â€œXPSâ€ hotline?</strong><strong></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t lose too much sleep over that thought, Brian. A large percentge of the people they are trying to sell the XPS line to, guys like me, enthusiasts, build their own machines. I&#8217;d say in the high 90% range.</p>
<p>I will say one good thing about Dell, they send me allot of side work because people just give up trying to use their super awesome, great warranties.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Denial</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-10796</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Denial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-"J Simpkins Says:
October 20th, 2005 at 3:18 pm"-

"WHATEVER"
_________________________________________________

Hey Simp', you should have stopped at that, up there. It was just as inaffectual.

To the point then, DELL provides pricey unreliable [not fit for the purpose] components, ergo, there is a degree of Customer Support that will naturally be required for said sub-standard products, agreed? DELL knows it, why don't you? Perhaps DELL's intention all along was to pay lip service to its support of its customers on the back of inferior performing products. What say you?

Example; How many times would you say it is acceptable that the same problem gets dealt with in exactly the same way... the *wrong *way, mind, but the same way nonetheless.
* Denotes; â€˜failed to be 'supported' and did not lead to 'Customer Satisfaction'â€™.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&#8221;J Simpkins Says:<br />
October 20th, 2005 at 3:18 pm&#8221;-</p>
<p>&#8220;WHATEVER&#8221;<br />
_________________________________________________</p>
<p>Hey Simp&#8217;, you should have stopped at that, up there. It was just as inaffectual.</p>
<p>To the point then, DELL provides pricey unreliable [not fit for the purpose] components, ergo, there is a degree of Customer Support that will naturally be required for said sub-standard products, agreed? DELL knows it, why don&#8217;t you? Perhaps DELL&#8217;s intention all along was to pay lip service to its support of its customers on the back of inferior performing products. What say you?</p>
<p>Example; How many times would you say it is acceptable that the same problem gets dealt with in exactly the same way&#8230; the *wrong *way, mind, but the same way nonetheless.<br />
* Denotes; â€˜failed to be &#8217;supported&#8217; and did not lead to &#8216;Customer Satisfaction&#8217;â€™.</p>
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		<title>By: J Simpkins</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-10595</link>
		<dc:creator>J Simpkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHATEVER......SERVICE IS A PRODUCT....THEY SHOULD CHARGE MORE.....THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH MOST CONSUMERS....THEY THINK THAT SERVICE IS A GIVEN...IT IS NOT...DELL IS NOT A CUSTOMER SERVICE ORGANIZATION...DELL IS NOT CELEBRITY CRUISE LINERS...IT IS NOT A COUNTRY CLUB....WAKE UP IDIOTS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHATEVER&#8230;&#8230;SERVICE IS A PRODUCT&#8230;.THEY SHOULD CHARGE MORE&#8230;..THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH MOST CONSUMERS&#8230;.THEY THINK THAT SERVICE IS A GIVEN&#8230;IT IS NOT&#8230;DELL IS NOT A CUSTOMER SERVICE ORGANIZATION&#8230;DELL IS NOT CELEBRITY CRUISE LINERS&#8230;IT IS NOT A COUNTRY CLUB&#8230;.WAKE UP IDIOTS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-10524</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, i have been using dell for 3 years now and have not faced a single problem till date, the dell works absolutely fine and my next computer will be a dell for sure. not every one but the very few users who have a technical acumen would understand that all the problems for which dell is held responsible are user borne, moreover people say that the services are deteriorating day by day which is not true, does any one realize how many threats like spywares and viruses we have now and did we ever have them earlier, problem like these are users responsibility, also earlier we had never connected numerous devices to our computer like we do now, computer technology had drastically changed and if u are a novice user wihout the technical knowledge then be ready to face the problems, most users do not understand what spywares are and how to stay safe, they would follow unsafe net browsing practises and when the system crashes then blame the manufacturer, people who understand this would support me because everything comes for money and if u do not know something as minor as burning a cd then be ready to pay the price for this ignorance. better services require better money and the price at which a dell comes is absolutely incredible so dell does rocks till date as it is catering to every segment of society and not just the rich and the affluent !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, i have been using dell for 3 years now and have not faced a single problem till date, the dell works absolutely fine and my next computer will be a dell for sure. not every one but the very few users who have a technical acumen would understand that all the problems for which dell is held responsible are user borne, moreover people say that the services are deteriorating day by day which is not true, does any one realize how many threats like spywares and viruses we have now and did we ever have them earlier, problem like these are users responsibility, also earlier we had never connected numerous devices to our computer like we do now, computer technology had drastically changed and if u are a novice user wihout the technical knowledge then be ready to face the problems, most users do not understand what spywares are and how to stay safe, they would follow unsafe net browsing practises and when the system crashes then blame the manufacturer, people who understand this would support me because everything comes for money and if u do not know something as minor as burning a cd then be ready to pay the price for this ignorance. better services require better money and the price at which a dell comes is absolutely incredible so dell does rocks till date as it is catering to every segment of society and not just the rich and the affluent !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8284</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent 20 years in semiconductor manufacturing. On several occasions I have tested Dell motherboards, replaced under warranty by Dell, to verify any problems with the boards. It was obvious that price was the driving issue with these components. They were built in a part of the world where labor costs are low, which is okay in itself, but they were shoddily built. Components didn't fit well and the boards just 'looked' cheap. The showstopper for me was the number of boards that had failed for 'no video'. On some of those boards the reason was unavoidably obvious, or should have been. Only half of the video connector was there. The female half where the cable connects was missing! They should have been mechanical failures, but we wasted time doing a time consuming electrical test to verify the failure. What is far worse is that those parts had gone through numerous hands and several layers of QC before they were finally shipped to a customer. They must not even turn on the computers to see if they work when they finish final assembly. Statistical Process Control, which is basic to high tech manufacturing, says that when you find such defective parts, you recover all of the bad parts, send the entire lot back to the supplier, and get a new one. That Dell's supply channel and manufacturing operations didn't react to the parts at all, it took customers to do that, says volumes about bad management practices. They are working to price alone, not quality, not total cost. The entire cost of recovering those bad parts found by customers should be added in to the cost of manufacturing as well as some portion of the cost of the Service operation. FWIW, Dell is adding 5,000 people to it's Service group, raising that number to 15,000. That is a huge minus to the bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent 20 years in semiconductor manufacturing. On several occasions I have tested Dell motherboards, replaced under warranty by Dell, to verify any problems with the boards. It was obvious that price was the driving issue with these components. They were built in a part of the world where labor costs are low, which is okay in itself, but they were shoddily built. Components didn&#8217;t fit well and the boards just &#8216;looked&#8217; cheap. The showstopper for me was the number of boards that had failed for &#8216;no video&#8217;. On some of those boards the reason was unavoidably obvious, or should have been. Only half of the video connector was there. The female half where the cable connects was missing! They should have been mechanical failures, but we wasted time doing a time consuming electrical test to verify the failure. What is far worse is that those parts had gone through numerous hands and several layers of QC before they were finally shipped to a customer. They must not even turn on the computers to see if they work when they finish final assembly. Statistical Process Control, which is basic to high tech manufacturing, says that when you find such defective parts, you recover all of the bad parts, send the entire lot back to the supplier, and get a new one. That Dell&#8217;s supply channel and manufacturing operations didn&#8217;t react to the parts at all, it took customers to do that, says volumes about bad management practices. They are working to price alone, not quality, not total cost. The entire cost of recovering those bad parts found by customers should be added in to the cost of manufacturing as well as some portion of the cost of the Service operation. FWIW, Dell is adding 5,000 people to it&#8217;s Service group, raising that number to 15,000. That is a huge minus to the bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: former dell tech</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8265</link>
		<dc:creator>former dell tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 23:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times do people post the 'why don't you build your own machine?' What about laptops? Ever build one of those? Not only that when the rubber meets the road, its the price that people look for. Once you add software to the equation, building your own machine is not cheaper. Yet I do agree that it is the better way.

BTW who do like for laptops? I own an HP (17"). Support is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times do people post the &#8216;why don&#8217;t you build your own machine?&#8217; What about laptops? Ever build one of those? Not only that when the rubber meets the road, its the price that people look for. Once you add software to the equation, building your own machine is not cheaper. Yet I do agree that it is the better way.</p>
<p>BTW who do like for laptops? I own an HP (17&#8243;). Support is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: SSG B</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8234</link>
		<dc:creator>SSG B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno if Jeff is capable of saying that his expertise in one area doesn't convey automatic expertise in all areas.  I've watched the quality of Jeff's work decline as he's become more and more a darling of the media he wants to change.  Reading Buzzmachine reminds me more and more of reading the op-eds in the newspapers I no longer read.  I don't think I like that.  The whole "Dell Hell" thing strikes me as him being a prima donna and someone who is a bit too fascinated with his soap box than what he's actually ranting against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno if Jeff is capable of saying that his expertise in one area doesn&#8217;t convey automatic expertise in all areas.  I&#8217;ve watched the quality of Jeff&#8217;s work decline as he&#8217;s become more and more a darling of the media he wants to change.  Reading Buzzmachine reminds me more and more of reading the op-eds in the newspapers I no longer read.  I don&#8217;t think I like that.  The whole &#8220;Dell Hell&#8221; thing strikes me as him being a prima donna and someone who is a bit too fascinated with his soap box than what he&#8217;s actually ranting against.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8232</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One has too look past the customer service issues and look at the core of the problem.  Dell's development budget is a fraction of that of HP or IBM, so this means that Dell products are rushed through product group (development) in order to be first to market.  Dell (like other companies) do risk analysis on issues that arise with their products during the development cycle.  

Unfortunately, these risk assessments are geared more to revenue and not to customer experience.  This being said corners are cut in the development process and potential issues are written off as an acceptable risks, thus creating a sub-par product.  A Dell Product Group VP once said, "perception is more important than reality".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has too look past the customer service issues and look at the core of the problem.  Dell&#8217;s development budget is a fraction of that of HP or IBM, so this means that Dell products are rushed through product group (development) in order to be first to market.  Dell (like other companies) do risk analysis on issues that arise with their products during the development cycle.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, these risk assessments are geared more to revenue and not to customer experience.  This being said corners are cut in the development process and potential issues are written off as an acceptable risks, thus creating a sub-par product.  A Dell Product Group VP once said, &#8220;perception is more important than reality&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8231</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm really getting tired of this jihad against Dell. I've been dealing with them since 1994. Four desktops. No major problems. Great customer service.

Some people just get angry that tech support goes through their procedures step-by-step rather than listening to their complaints. Jeff is not a computer expert and should admit it. His expertise in other areas does not cross over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really getting tired of this jihad against Dell. I&#8217;ve been dealing with them since 1994. Four desktops. No major problems. Great customer service.</p>
<p>Some people just get angry that tech support goes through their procedures step-by-step rather than listening to their complaints. Jeff is not a computer expert and should admit it. His expertise in other areas does not cross over.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8185</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I gotta disagree with this one.  If you want quality you have to pay for it.  Don't expect full service from a waiter if you go to McDonalds.  Just because one company offers two completely different services does not mean your entitled to both of them automatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I gotta disagree with this one.  If you want quality you have to pay for it.  Don&#8217;t expect full service from a waiter if you go to McDonalds.  Just because one company offers two completely different services does not mean your entitled to both of them automatically.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a cynical ploy to destroy the niche market that SavRow, Alienware and VoodooPC have been in for years now. Dell is the un cool uncle at the party and they think that they can both capture higher margins and justify giving tiered support to their clients... 

I think they are just trying to water down the term luxury or high end computing...  http://www.luxurypc.com/?p=30</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a cynical ploy to destroy the niche market that SavRow, Alienware and VoodooPC have been in for years now. Dell is the un cool uncle at the party and they think that they can both capture higher margins and justify giving tiered support to their clients&#8230; </p>
<p>I think they are just trying to water down the term luxury or high end computing&#8230;  <a href="http://www.luxurypc.com/?p=30" rel="nofollow">http://www.luxurypc.com/?p=30</a></p>
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		<title>By: penny</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/28/sell-dell/#comment-8028</link>
		<dc:creator>penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry right post at the wrong spot.</description>
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