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		<title>By: æ³¨å†Œå…¬å¸</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-354876</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how are you.</description>
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		<title>By: Sex Movie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-13107</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex Movie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doubleaf&#8217;s blog &#187; ã€ç¿»è¯‘æ–‡ç« ã€‘Web 2.0 ä¸Žé•¿å°¾</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8367</link>
		<dc:creator>doubleaf&#8217;s blog &#187; ã€ç¿»è¯‘æ–‡ç« ã€‘Web 2.0 ä¸Žé•¿å°¾</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EB</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8352</link>
		<dc:creator>EB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blogs are print CB radios.

(What's a CB radio?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blogs are print CB radios.</p>
<p>(What&#8217;s a CB radio?)</p>
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		<title>By: MetroOwl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8329</link>
		<dc:creator>MetroOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right about defining things - blogs, journalism, etc. Those who believe you are copping out or erroneously giving blogs more credit than they deserve should note that perhaps by "define" you meant "limit." We can all relate to the restrictions created by labels, and that cause and effect is no different for inanimate objects and phenomena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about defining things - blogs, journalism, etc. Those who believe you are copping out or erroneously giving blogs more credit than they deserve should note that perhaps by &#8220;define&#8221; you meant &#8220;limit.&#8221; We can all relate to the restrictions created by labels, and that cause and effect is no different for inanimate objects and phenomena.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Glover</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8283</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with much of what you say, but I love the way you said it. Your rant about defining blogs motivated me to rant myself at Beltway Blogroll (http://beltwayblogroll.nationaljournal.com/archives/2005/10/the_buzz_about.php). As I said there, you are "the king of curmudgeons, the role model of grumpy men [like me] everywhere, young or old."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with much of what you say, but I love the way you said it. Your rant about defining blogs motivated me to rant myself at Beltway Blogroll (http://beltwayblogroll.nationaljournal.com/archives/2005/10/the_buzz_about.php). As I said there, you are &#8220;the king of curmudgeons, the role model of grumpy men [like me] everywhere, young or old.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tonynoboloney</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8275</link>
		<dc:creator>tonynoboloney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll tell you how I define blogs, it is a wonderous portal to unimaginable knowledge and information, opinion, editorial and education.  A source of great solace in times of trouble and a sorce of great irratation when I don't agree with the posters.  blogging has lead me on an incredible journey from the streets of Baghdad, to the WTC in New York,  from wild fires in California to Huiricanes in the Gulf Coast.  Nothing absolutely nothing is off limits for discussion, politics, religion, sex, family, high tech, low tech you name it I can find it and blog it. Blogs have opened up a world to me that heretofore I had no idea even existed, a new language within a language.  Good ideas, bad ideas, no ideas, anger, wit, humor, sarcasm, hatred, love, numbness, breathlessness, the entire gamut of human emotions can be experienced on blogs.  Lies, truths, facts, and fiction all share equally and in real time together.  Blogs are awesome.

I was first introduced to Blogs  one Suday morning, about a year ago while reading an editorial in my local newspaper that mentioned a guy named Jeff Jarvis, and a site called Buzzmachine.  I am infinitely grateful to have been introduced to this medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you how I define blogs, it is a wonderous portal to unimaginable knowledge and information, opinion, editorial and education.  A source of great solace in times of trouble and a sorce of great irratation when I don&#8217;t agree with the posters.  blogging has lead me on an incredible journey from the streets of Baghdad, to the WTC in New York,  from wild fires in California to Huiricanes in the Gulf Coast.  Nothing absolutely nothing is off limits for discussion, politics, religion, sex, family, high tech, low tech you name it I can find it and blog it. Blogs have opened up a world to me that heretofore I had no idea even existed, a new language within a language.  Good ideas, bad ideas, no ideas, anger, wit, humor, sarcasm, hatred, love, numbness, breathlessness, the entire gamut of human emotions can be experienced on blogs.  Lies, truths, facts, and fiction all share equally and in real time together.  Blogs are awesome.</p>
<p>I was first introduced to Blogs  one Suday morning, about a year ago while reading an editorial in my local newspaper that mentioned a guy named Jeff Jarvis, and a site called Buzzmachine.  I am infinitely grateful to have been introduced to this medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Holmes</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8240</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I'll take a shot at it:

Blogs represent Web Page 2.0, the evolution of the personal Web page. You can even transpose every instance of the word Blog with "Web Page" and feel as if you've stepped back to the birth of the Web.

Blogs exploded (primarily) by reducing the "friction" to publishing online. Just type your thoughts into a form, and the software builds the code automatically. No coding. No Webmaster bottleneck. That brought forth a second wave of networked minds and ideas.

The Millions of HTMLess can now have their say. And the sheer number of Bloggers means the brilliant, funny and fabulous poke through the slime.

They're here to stay like anything else that works better. I just hope we pitch the name soon. Can't stand saying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll take a shot at it:</p>
<p>Blogs represent Web Page 2.0, the evolution of the personal Web page. You can even transpose every instance of the word Blog with &#8220;Web Page&#8221; and feel as if you&#8217;ve stepped back to the birth of the Web.</p>
<p>Blogs exploded (primarily) by reducing the &#8220;friction&#8221; to publishing online. Just type your thoughts into a form, and the software builds the code automatically. No coding. No Webmaster bottleneck. That brought forth a second wave of networked minds and ideas.</p>
<p>The Millions of HTMLess can now have their say. And the sheer number of Bloggers means the brilliant, funny and fabulous poke through the slime.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re here to stay like anything else that works better. I just hope we pitch the name soon. Can&#8217;t stand saying it.</p>
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		<title>By: RR Safety</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>RR Safety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 20:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just read the OJR story and it is terrible. If the first poster thinks that the story was a useful exercise in defination, then apparently this is just his type of "errand"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read the OJR story and it is terrible. If the first poster thinks that the story was a useful exercise in defination, then apparently this is just his type of &#8220;errand&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Heaton</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modernism requires pigeonholes in order to function. The blogosphere is more like postmodernism's ultimate institution, A.A. If you say you're a blogger, then you are one, and nobody can say that you're not. Defining blogging isn't so much the issue as who does what with the definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modernism requires pigeonholes in order to function. The blogosphere is more like postmodernism&#8217;s ultimate institution, A.A. If you say you&#8217;re a blogger, then you are one, and nobody can say that you&#8217;re not. Defining blogging isn&#8217;t so much the issue as who does what with the definition.</p>
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		<title>By: EverKarl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8225</link>
		<dc:creator>EverKarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/09/30/museum/" rel="nofollow"&gt;And when will there be a museum for the undefinable?&lt;/a&gt;

Can you resist calling blogging a medium and then wonder whether there will be a museum for it like museums for... media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/09/30/museum/" rel="nofollow">And when will there be a museum for the undefinable?</a></p>
<p>Can you resist calling blogging a medium and then wonder whether there will be a museum for it like museums for&#8230; media?</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/09/30/defying-definition-2/#comment-8216</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 16:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is deeply silly, and borders on self-parody.  A "blog" is apparently so revolutionary that, unlike every other word in the English language, it completely defies definition.  Anyone who even tries is on a "fool's errand."  Blogging is a wonderful new form of communication.  But many new and wonderful forms of communications have come along in the past, and we have managed to come up with perfectly good defnitions for "scroll," "tablet," "printing press," "telephone," "television," "radio," etc.  To argue that blogs are different goes well beyond "triumphalism" -- I'd call it grandiosity, or narcissism.

Um, well here's a try at a definition by one "fool":  "Blog.  Noun.  Shortened form of 'web log.'  A form of Internet site comprised of short entries arranged vertically in reverse chronological order.  Entries typically consist of personal observations, opinions, and commentary on news articles and entries on other blogs (along with links to the original), updated frequently but irregularly."

I'm sure that this definition is imperfect.  But if someone had spent the past, say, 7 years in a cave, wandered out, and asked, "What's this 'blog' thing I keep hearing about?" I'm confident my definition would give him a pretty good idea.  Let the "conversation" begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is deeply silly, and borders on self-parody.  A &#8220;blog&#8221; is apparently so revolutionary that, unlike every other word in the English language, it completely defies definition.  Anyone who even tries is on a &#8220;fool&#8217;s errand.&#8221;  Blogging is a wonderful new form of communication.  But many new and wonderful forms of communications have come along in the past, and we have managed to come up with perfectly good defnitions for &#8220;scroll,&#8221; &#8220;tablet,&#8221; &#8220;printing press,&#8221; &#8220;telephone,&#8221; &#8220;television,&#8221; &#8220;radio,&#8221; etc.  To argue that blogs are different goes well beyond &#8220;triumphalism&#8221; &#8212; I&#8217;d call it grandiosity, or narcissism.</p>
<p>Um, well here&#8217;s a try at a definition by one &#8220;fool&#8221;:  &#8220;Blog.  Noun.  Shortened form of &#8216;web log.&#8217;  A form of Internet site comprised of short entries arranged vertically in reverse chronological order.  Entries typically consist of personal observations, opinions, and commentary on news articles and entries on other blogs (along with links to the original), updated frequently but irregularly.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that this definition is imperfect.  But if someone had spent the past, say, 7 years in a cave, wandered out, and asked, &#8220;What&#8217;s this &#8216;blog&#8217; thing I keep hearing about?&#8221; I&#8217;m confident my definition would give him a pretty good idea.  Let the &#8220;conversation&#8221; begin.</p>
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