Comments on: F the spam bloggers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:15:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: ivaxoj http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-349727 ivaxoj Sun, 13 May 2007 00:52:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-349727 Hi My Name Is ivalrt. Hi My Name Is ivalrt.

]]> By: Hypervre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-233082 Hypervre Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:41:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-233082 But anyone knows the meaning of a spammer? I thought spamming is when someone gives unwanted emails.. But anyone knows the meaning of a spammer? I thought spamming is when someone gives unwanted emails..

]]> By: technoogle.com Blog » Blog Archive » Outrage against Google’s Blogspot http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-63813 technoogle.com Blog » Blog Archive » Outrage against Google’s Blogspot Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:02:58 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-63813 [...] I won’t say more because all of the key bloggers have already said enough: Chris Pirillo, Tim Bray, Mark Cuban, Dan Gillmor, Jeff Jarvis, Robert Scoble, evhead. And many many others, you can check memeorandum for real time coverage. [...] [...] I won’t say more because all of the key bloggers have already said enough: Chris Pirillo, Tim Bray, Mark Cuban, Dan Gillmor, Jeff Jarvis, Robert Scoble, evhead. And many many others, you can check memeorandum for real time coverage. [...]

]]> By: Tim http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-15530 Tim Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:25:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-15530 When a spammer recently forged our domain name it was difficult to get help from Google, but it did not take long for them to penalize our Adsense and Adwords accounts. We had nothing to do with the spam. When a spammer recently forged our domain name it was difficult to get help from Google, but it did not take long for them to penalize our Adsense and Adwords accounts. We had nothing to do with the spam.

]]> By: Top Affiliate Marketing News - Google+Blogspot=Spam Mayhem http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-11321 Top Affiliate Marketing News - Google+Blogspot=Spam Mayhem Sun, 30 Oct 2005 06:56:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-11321 [...] But Google itself seems to have closed that hole, according to Jeff Jarvis, who noted that searches on Google are free from the splog listings found in identical searches on PubSub and IceRocket, among others. "Google needs to both fix Blogspot and share its secrets for ignoring blogspam," Jarvis writes. Leave a comment • Trackback (0) [...] [...] But Google itself seems to have closed that hole, according to Jeff Jarvis, who noted that searches on Google are free from the splog listings found in identical searches on PubSub and IceRocket, among others. “Google needs to both fix Blogspot and share its secrets for ignoring blogspam,” Jarvis writes. Leave a comment • Trackback (0) [...]

]]> By: Steven I. Weiss http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-11160 Steven I. Weiss Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:31:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-11160 Jeff - I'm getting spam in Google Blogsearch <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&q=lakewood+internet&filter=0&sa=N&scoring=d" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Jeff – I’m getting spam in Google Blogsearch here.

]]> By: » links for 2005-10-18  InsideGoogle » part of the Blog News Channel http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10574 » links for 2005-10-18  InsideGoogle » part of the Blog News Channel Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:34:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10574 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » F the spam bloggers What is this? Bash BlogSpot week? (tags: google spam splogs blogs blogger blogspot) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » F the spam bloggers What is this? Bash BlogSpot week? (tags: google spam splogs blogs blogger blogspot) [...]

]]> By: Nick Lothian http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10466 Nick Lothian Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:02:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10466 Google had just has much trouble with the splogs as anyone (although they have done a lot to improve it in the last 24 hours). The trick it to search their blog search by date - then it was terrible, and can still be pretty spammy. See <a href="http://www.mackmo.com/nick/blog/java/?permalink=Spam-Blog-Crisis.txt" rel="nofollow">here for further details</a> Google had just has much trouble with the splogs as anyone (although they have done a lot to improve it in the last 24 hours). The trick it to search their blog search by date – then it was terrible, and can still be pretty spammy. See here for further details

]]> By: Green Data http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10448 Green Data Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:01:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10448 I am not with you, as blogspot has a option to check if this is a real person or a spam-bon when sending a comment, you just have to write down some letters written in a image (word verification). I am not with you, as blogspot has a option to check if this is a real person or a spam-bon when sending a comment, you just have to write down some letters written in a image (word verification).

]]> By: Jay Currie http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10426 Jay Currie Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:31:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10426 The splogging phenomena is simply underscoring the need for a degree of handsorting in the search engines. Google's proposed trust rank would have the effect of eliminating a good deal of this sort of spam. However, if you want to see a really good implementation of a human/machine sorting system go over to <a href="http://memeorandum.com" rel="nofollow"> Memorandum.com</a> where Gabe Rivera has built what may be the next generation of content seeking algos. The splogging phenomena is simply underscoring the need for a degree of handsorting in the search engines. Google’s proposed trust rank would have the effect of eliminating a good deal of this sort of spam.

However, if you want to see a really good implementation of a human/machine sorting system go over to Memorandum.com where Gabe Rivera has built what may be the next generation of content seeking algos.

]]> By: Jay Allen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10409 Jay Allen Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:23:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10409 Unfortunately, this isn't new. I dare say that the number of spamblogs being created on Blogspot has remained about the same -- it's the tactics that are different. They've started using high-profile bloggers feeds instead of pre-generated content which is why you're seeing your name more often. See <a href="http://www.jayallen.org/journey/2005/10/blgospot_spamblogs" rel="nofollow">here</a> for my thoughts on it and a possible PubSub-ian solution. Unfortunately, this isn’t new. I dare say that the number of spamblogs being created on Blogspot has remained about the same — it’s the tactics that are different. They’ve started using high-profile bloggers feeds instead of pre-generated content which is why you’re seeing your name more often.

See here for my thoughts on it and a possible PubSub-ian solution.

]]> By: Weblogs Work » Blogs & Splogs Abound http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10400 Weblogs Work » Blogs & Splogs Abound Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:54:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10400 [...] Despite lots of chatter among high profile bloggers, he says the data don’t support that we are having a worse spam attack now than in previous rounds Meanwhile, Chris Pirillo, Mark Cuban, Matt Haughey, Jeff Jarvis and Tim Bray scream about the spam blog problem this weekend. We monitor blogs for several clients, and spam blogs have certainly made our work less efficient and as effective the past week or so. [...] [...] Despite lots of chatter among high profile bloggers, he says the data don’t support that we are having a worse spam attack now than in previous rounds Meanwhile, Chris Pirillo, Mark Cuban, Matt Haughey, Jeff Jarvis and Tim Bray scream about the spam blog problem this weekend. We monitor blogs for several clients, and spam blogs have certainly made our work less efficient and as effective the past week or so. [...]

]]> By: Andreas Wacker » Blog Archive » splogplosion http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10392 Andreas Wacker » Blog Archive » splogplosion Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:29:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10392 [...] Over at Jeff Jarvis there is some discussion as well on the very same topic. Sreven Den Beste comments along the lines that splogs on blogger.com might be beneficial to google. They definitely are. Wether intended or not: Google knows which blogs on blogger get read and which ones not. That alone makes for huge head start for all search efforts. [...] [...] Over at Jeff Jarvis there is some discussion as well on the very same topic. Sreven Den Beste comments along the lines that splogs on blogger.com might be beneficial to google. They definitely are. Wether intended or not: Google knows which blogs on blogger get read and which ones not. That alone makes for huge head start for all search efforts. [...]

]]> By: Fight Splog » Splog Get Major Blog Buzz http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10391 Fight Splog » Splog Get Major Blog Buzz Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:55:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10391 [...] Jeff Jarvis get angry and says “Google needs to both fix Blogspot and share its secrets for ignoring blogspam” with his post: F the Spam Bloggers [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis get angry and says “Google needs to both fix Blogspot and share its secrets for ignoring blogspam” with his post: F the Spam Bloggers [...]

]]> By: Laughing Squid » Splogs! http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10386 Laughing Squid » Splogs! Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:44:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10386 [...] Looks like I’m not alone, several other bloggers are reporting on this, including Chris Pirillo, Tim Bray, Jeff Jarvis, Dave Winer, Dan Gillmor and Matt Howie. Many of them, including Mark Cuban, are trying to put pressure on Google (who owns Blogger, which runs the Blogspot service) to act quickly to stop the spread of these splogs. tags: google, blogs, blog, splog, spam, blogspot – posted by Scott Beale on Sunday, October 16th, 2005 Comments RSS feed | Trackback URL [...] [...] Looks like I’m not alone, several other bloggers are reporting on this, including Chris Pirillo, Tim Bray, Jeff Jarvis, Dave Winer, Dan Gillmor and Matt Howie. Many of them, including Mark Cuban, are trying to put pressure on Google (who owns Blogger, which runs the Blogspot service) to act quickly to stop the spread of these splogs. tags: google, blogs, blog, splog, spam, blogspot – posted by Scott Beale on Sunday, October 16th, 2005 Comments RSS feed | Trackback URL [...]

]]> By: David Sifry http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10385 David Sifry Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:23:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10385 Jeff, We've been working on this situation for months, and we've been working together with the big blog publishers to help deal with spam infestations like what happened over the weekend. You'll notice that Technorati's results should have significantly less spam than before, and we're continuing to work really hard to keep our index as comprehensive as possible while eliminating spam as quickly as possible, ideally even before any of it gets indexed. We also are passing this info on to the relevant publishers so that they can eliminate the problem at its source. It's going to be a multi-tiered resolution, especially because we all want an open blogosphere that allows and encourages anyone to join in the fun. Dave Jeff,

We’ve been working on this situation for months, and we’ve been working together with the big blog publishers to help deal with spam infestations like what happened over the weekend.

You’ll notice that Technorati’s results should have significantly less spam than before, and we’re continuing to work really hard to keep our index as comprehensive as possible while eliminating spam as quickly as possible, ideally even before any of it gets indexed.

We also are passing this info on to the relevant publishers so that they can eliminate the problem at its source. It’s going to be a multi-tiered resolution, especially because we all want an open blogosphere that allows and encourages anyone to join in the fun.

Dave

]]> By: Steven Den Beste http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10373 Steven Den Beste Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:56:38 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10373 By the way, has it occurred to you that it is economically to Google's advantage to let the current situation persist? As long as Google can keep its own search results clean, then the spam blogs will make everyone else's search engines useless and thus drive traffic to Google. Why would Google want to change the situation? Certainly it would be both illegal and immoral for Google to actively work to pollute the search results of its competitors, but I don't think that benign neglect of spammer abuse of Blogspot is actionable, and it serves the same purpose. Certainly if that's what Google is thinking, then it's slimy. But not illegal, and not actionable. And it's difficult to see why Google would want to expend any significant effort to try to fix the situation. By the way, has it occurred to you that it is economically to Google’s advantage to let the current situation persist? As long as Google can keep its own search results clean, then the spam blogs will make everyone else’s search engines useless and thus drive traffic to Google.

Why would Google want to change the situation? Certainly it would be both illegal and immoral for Google to actively work to pollute the search results of its competitors, but I don’t think that benign neglect of spammer abuse of Blogspot is actionable, and it serves the same purpose. Certainly if that’s what Google is thinking, then it’s slimy. But not illegal, and not actionable. And it’s difficult to see why Google would want to expend any significant effort to try to fix the situation.

]]> By: Steven Den Beste http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10372 Steven Den Beste Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:52:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10372 Ultimately there isn't any permanent solution to this kind of thing. Any system which permits anyone to create readable material on anyone else's system will be abused by spammers. The only real solution is to assume that a certain percentage of people out there are hostile, and to design accordingly. Automatic trackback, for instance, was always a terrible idea because it assumed universal good faith. Ultimately there isn’t any permanent solution to this kind of thing. Any system which permits anyone to create readable material on anyone else’s system will be abused by spammers.

The only real solution is to assume that a certain percentage of people out there are hostile, and to design accordingly. Automatic trackback, for instance, was always a terrible idea because it assumed universal good faith.

]]> By: Elliott Back http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10370 Elliott Back Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:13:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10370 I took a look today, and while you more prominent guys may be targeted, it seems that <a href="http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2005/10/16/is-blogspot-really-bad/#comments" rel="nofollow">splogs are only 1/3 of Blogspots blogs</a>. I took a look today, and while you more prominent guys may be targeted, it seems that splogs are only 1/3 of Blogspots blogs.

]]> By: Bill Gardner http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10365 Bill Gardner Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:20:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/10/16/f-the-spam-bloggers/#comment-10365 Jeff, Let's hope Google does something soon like using <a href="http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=1203" rel="nofollow"> word verification</a>. As someone who users blogger, this sort of thing is scary. It's not fun to be lost in the spam. Jeff,

Let’s hope Google does something soon like using word verification. As someone who users blogger, this sort of thing is scary. It’s not fun to be lost in the spam.

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