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	<title>Comments on: The Judy feed</title>
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		<title>By: musafir</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10840</link>
		<dc:creator>musafir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 02:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter how you slice it, those who were responsible (Bill Keller) and others for allowing Judy Miller to be a prima donna (self-described Miss Run Amok) have no excuse.  Mr. Keller&#039;s belated explanation was nothing but a lame effort to redeem himself.  Too late and too little.  He ought to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter how you slice it, those who were responsible (Bill Keller) and others for allowing Judy Miller to be a prima donna (self-described Miss Run Amok) have no excuse.  Mr. Keller&#8217;s belated explanation was nothing but a lame effort to redeem himself.  Too late and too little.  He ought to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Times&#8217; Rather</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10789</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Times&#8217; Rather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Next, recognize the Gillmorism that your public knows more than you do and demonstrate that. In fact, that would be good business. The public served by The Times is, indeed, a smart and powerful bunch. So make it a goal to gather and share that wisdom. This was a start. But do more: Make your staff continue that dialogue with the few proxies invited in; open it up to the world. When those darned bloggers question your WMD stories, get into a conversation about it. Don&#8217;t sit and wait and stonewall as if you can. We journalists, of all people, should remember that it&#8217;s the coverup that gets you and silence in the face of questions is a coverup. So, yes, you can guess what I&#8217;ll suggest: Have reporters blog so they can enter that conversation. Find a new voice that is authentic by talking with the people you serve. Take the questions and facts and words of the public and find more ways to put that in the paper. Don&#8217;t just be a pile of dead words on paper; try to put yourself back into the town square, into the center of the community, into the conversation that&#8217;s happening around you, if you can. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Next, recognize the Gillmorism that your public knows more than you do and demonstrate that. In fact, that would be good business. The public served by The Times is, indeed, a smart and powerful bunch. So make it a goal to gather and share that wisdom. This was a start. But do more: Make your staff continue that dialogue with the few proxies invited in; open it up to the world. When those darned bloggers question your WMD stories, get into a conversation about it. Don&#8217;t sit and wait and stonewall as if you can. We journalists, of all people, should remember that it&#8217;s the coverup that gets you and silence in the face of questions is a coverup. So, yes, you can guess what I&#8217;ll suggest: Have reporters blog so they can enter that conversation. Find a new voice that is authentic by talking with the people you serve. Take the questions and facts and words of the public and find more ways to put that in the paper. Don&#8217;t just be a pile of dead words on paper; try to put yourself back into the town square, into the center of the community, into the conversation that&#8217;s happening around you, if you can. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10654</link>
		<dc:creator>John Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What still amazes me to this day was how Miller was &lt;b&gt;ever&lt;/b&gt; allowed to write about Iraq (and the issues surrounding the story) for the &lt;i&gt;Times&lt;/i&gt; by any editor.  It&#039;s been known for nearly fifteen years that she was far from objective regarding the region, ever since co-writing a book on Saddam Hussein with neocon nutjob Laurie Mylroie before the Gulf War.  Instead of honest and truthful reporting, we got cheerleading for the PNAC agenda and shilling for crooked Chalabi.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What still amazes me to this day was how Miller was <b>ever</b> allowed to write about Iraq (and the issues surrounding the story) for the <i>Times</i> by any editor.  It&#8217;s been known for nearly fifteen years that she was far from objective regarding the region, ever since co-writing a book on Saddam Hussein with neocon nutjob Laurie Mylroie before the Gulf War.  Instead of honest and truthful reporting, we got cheerleading for the PNAC agenda and shilling for crooked Chalabi.  <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: marym</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10622</link>
		<dc:creator>marym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the above: &#039;It&#039;s not really a story about Bush officials Lewis Libby and Karl Rove and their conversations with the press. Rather, it&#039;s a story about a CIA bureaucracy working to undermine the Bush administration through the media and cover up for its own mistakes.&#039;

There you go, it&#039;s those undercover agents at fault, don&#039;t you know.  Undermining those earnest warriors in the WH who just want intelligence they can work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the above: &#8216;It&#8217;s not really a story about Bush officials Lewis Libby and Karl Rove and their conversations with the press. Rather, it&#8217;s a story about a CIA bureaucracy working to undermine the Bush administration through the media and cover up for its own mistakes.&#8217;</p>
<p>There you go, it&#8217;s those undercover agents at fault, don&#8217;t you know.  Undermining those earnest warriors in the WH who just want intelligence they can work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10588</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Judith Miller Exonerates Bush Officials &lt;/b&gt;

http://www.aim.org/special_report/4096_0_8_0_C/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Judith Miller Exonerates Bush Officials </b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.aim.org/special_report/4096_0_8_0_C/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aim.org/special_report/4096_0_8_0_C/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10577</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the algorithm: &quot;These posts are listed in order of popularity ...&quot;

That means (overall) the popular faction of the Punditocracy, not the Z-listers.

Note, per Jon Garfunkel, listing new voices would entail editorial judgment.

Recursively, it&#039;s the core problem all over again - either select by editors, or just get the loudest voices. Pick one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the algorithm: &#8220;These posts are listed in order of popularity &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That means (overall) the popular faction of the Punditocracy, not the Z-listers.</p>
<p>Note, per Jon Garfunkel, listing new voices would entail editorial judgment.</p>
<p>Recursively, it&#8217;s the core problem all over again &#8211; either select by editors, or just get the loudest voices. Pick one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tish G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10545</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least there&#039;s one of us!</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Brynaert</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10544</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Brynaert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the least &quot;popular&quot; blogger to earn a spot on that Times list, I&#039;ll humbly represent the &quot;rabble.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the least &#8220;popular&#8221; blogger to earn a spot on that Times list, I&#8217;ll humbly represent the &#8220;rabble.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tish G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10543</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff...I got your point about the need to reference new voices--that wasn&#039;t what frustrates me.    What frustrates me is that while you might be making this point, alot of the people doing the referecing do not feel the same way you do. Your viewpoint is rather unique (as I have seen from both We Media and BlogOn)  Many are still on Old Media Think--reference the Voices of Authority because they are the ones that matter.  

The people you note are the ones who are considered &quot;citizen journalists&quot;--semantically speaking they are journalists who have become private citizens again and are perceived by a large swath of the populace  as the ones who have the most wizened commentary on J. Miller

There is more respect for journalists who take on the mantel of citzenry than there is for citizens who try to probe these types issues in their own unique ways.   Take a look at this piece in the On-line Journalism Review to see what is being said/thought about what is now being called &quot;grassroots journalism&quot;

http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/051006/

The perception of &quot;grassroots journalism&quot; as having little to no merit isn&#039;t limited to guys like Tom Grubisich.  When it comes to matters pertaining to media and journalism, it seems that blog readers might rather hear commentary from former professionals than from their neighbors.  The perception may be that the &quot;good information&quot; comes from those who used to be on the inside rather than from those who live next door.   

This makes it difficult for new voices to be heard.

I know a bit about this because, at this moment, I&#039;m a &quot;citizen journalist&quot; attempting to report on blog conferences from a grassroots perspective (at BlogOn, someone told me I was the only Real Blogger there--a plum postion indeed!) I go to events like BlogOn and We Media and the upcoming event at Berkman  because I want to sythesize and convey conference info on a peer-to-peer level. I am trying to start conversation among those of us in the Long Tail because there isn&#039;t much of it (although finding the right voice is difficult). 

Yet what is said at alot of conferences--among media people, among intellectuals/philosophers, and among marketers/p.r. folks--will eventually effect all of us who blog.   Our freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and sense of who we are in the digital world will be shaped by what is being tossed around by people who have little to no contact with The People.  And that, more than anything, frightens me.   

It should frighten--and motivate--alot more of us to cultivate and grow our voices in the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8230;I got your point about the need to reference new voices&#8211;that wasn&#8217;t what frustrates me.    What frustrates me is that while you might be making this point, alot of the people doing the referecing do not feel the same way you do. Your viewpoint is rather unique (as I have seen from both We Media and BlogOn)  Many are still on Old Media Think&#8211;reference the Voices of Authority because they are the ones that matter.  </p>
<p>The people you note are the ones who are considered &#8220;citizen journalists&#8221;&#8211;semantically speaking they are journalists who have become private citizens again and are perceived by a large swath of the populace  as the ones who have the most wizened commentary on J. Miller</p>
<p>There is more respect for journalists who take on the mantel of citzenry than there is for citizens who try to probe these types issues in their own unique ways.   Take a look at this piece in the On-line Journalism Review to see what is being said/thought about what is now being called &#8220;grassroots journalism&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/051006/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/051006/</a></p>
<p>The perception of &#8220;grassroots journalism&#8221; as having little to no merit isn&#8217;t limited to guys like Tom Grubisich.  When it comes to matters pertaining to media and journalism, it seems that blog readers might rather hear commentary from former professionals than from their neighbors.  The perception may be that the &#8220;good information&#8221; comes from those who used to be on the inside rather than from those who live next door.   </p>
<p>This makes it difficult for new voices to be heard.</p>
<p>I know a bit about this because, at this moment, I&#8217;m a &#8220;citizen journalist&#8221; attempting to report on blog conferences from a grassroots perspective (at BlogOn, someone told me I was the only Real Blogger there&#8211;a plum postion indeed!) I go to events like BlogOn and We Media and the upcoming event at Berkman  because I want to sythesize and convey conference info on a peer-to-peer level. I am trying to start conversation among those of us in the Long Tail because there isn&#8217;t much of it (although finding the right voice is difficult). </p>
<p>Yet what is said at alot of conferences&#8211;among media people, among intellectuals/philosophers, and among marketers/p.r. folks&#8211;will eventually effect all of us who blog.   Our freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and sense of who we are in the digital world will be shaped by what is being tossed around by people who have little to no contact with The People.  And that, more than anything, frightens me.   </p>
<p>It should frighten&#8211;and motivate&#8211;alot more of us to cultivate and grow our voices in the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10541</link>
		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really think any news agency can just pick up whatever appears on a blog until the blog&#039;s nature has been established 

It&#039;s unfortunate that a number of blogs have chosen the Rush route, pronouncing fables as if they were hards news ... and as unfortunate that a large number of blogger/commenters then quote them constantly, again as if fables were a great substitute for reality.  Why, mercy me! and these fables confirm firmly held beliefs of one sort or another.    

Just as a listener knows when they tune in to Fox &#039;news&#039; that they will hear a certain spin, your blogger knows when he/she accesses Powerline or Kos just what direction their news reports will take.

At least, we&#039;re getting a track record on what to credit and what starts off discredited by its very source.    The J.Miller case has been really stupefying for the number of posts that announced &#039;news&#039; that simply didn&#039;t exist, trying to color facts before they were &#039;out&#039;.  

Who supports her?  Who knows?  until we know what she has to say.  The best aspect of her actions in the story to date is that  Miller DID NOT out a CIA covert operative.  For that I believe she deserves a bit of credit.  So to that extent, Jeff, you can count me as a supporter.  Even though she had learned the hard way not to put too much weight on her sources&#039; claims/news leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really think any news agency can just pick up whatever appears on a blog until the blog&#8217;s nature has been established </p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that a number of blogs have chosen the Rush route, pronouncing fables as if they were hards news &#8230; and as unfortunate that a large number of blogger/commenters then quote them constantly, again as if fables were a great substitute for reality.  Why, mercy me! and these fables confirm firmly held beliefs of one sort or another.    </p>
<p>Just as a listener knows when they tune in to Fox &#8216;news&#8217; that they will hear a certain spin, your blogger knows when he/she accesses Powerline or Kos just what direction their news reports will take.</p>
<p>At least, we&#8217;re getting a track record on what to credit and what starts off discredited by its very source.    The J.Miller case has been really stupefying for the number of posts that announced &#8216;news&#8217; that simply didn&#8217;t exist, trying to color facts before they were &#8216;out&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Who supports her?  Who knows?  until we know what she has to say.  The best aspect of her actions in the story to date is that  Miller DID NOT out a CIA covert operative.  For that I believe she deserves a bit of credit.  So to that extent, Jeff, you can count me as a supporter.  Even though she had learned the hard way not to put too much weight on her sources&#8217; claims/news leads.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there&#039;s only 14,236 technorati posts on Judith Miller. How on Earth is an editorial publication supposed to glean which ones should be fit for notice? a question to the a-listers and z-listers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s only 14,236 technorati posts on Judith Miller. How on Earth is an editorial publication supposed to glean which ones should be fit for notice? a question to the a-listers and z-listers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tish: 
No, arrggh to you. Read my post again. I said specifically that they need to get other voices than the obvious.</description>
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No, arrggh to you. Read my post again. I said specifically that they need to get other voices than the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Tish G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10514</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arrrgh!  Jeff!  you keep missing the point!  they&#039;re only going to list those you listed because they are the Trusted Blogging Voices.  The rest of us are just the rabble...we don&#039;t count.  

When it comes to &quot;citizen journalism&quot; it&#039;s the journalists who decided to become citizens that count...not the citizens who are trying to do the journalism thing without the degree.  It&#039;s kind of like trying to fly without wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arrrgh!  Jeff!  you keep missing the point!  they&#8217;re only going to list those you listed because they are the Trusted Blogging Voices.  The rest of us are just the rabble&#8230;we don&#8217;t count.  </p>
<p>When it comes to &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; it&#8217;s the journalists who decided to become citizens that count&#8230;not the citizens who are trying to do the journalism thing without the degree.  It&#8217;s kind of like trying to fly without wings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10510</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay: Sorry but, come on: We lecture big media to listen to the people and quote and  now you want to complain? What if they say you can&#039;t quote them without paying them? Where would blogs be then? It can&#039;t be a conversation when you want to talk over a toll booth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay: Sorry but, come on: We lecture big media to listen to the people and quote and  now you want to complain? What if they say you can&#8217;t quote them without paying them? Where would blogs be then? It can&#8217;t be a conversation when you want to talk over a toll booth.</p>
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		<title>By: jamal</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10506</link>
		<dc:creator>jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not interested in bloggers as most of us are nobodies that write for free, instead of being media moghuls wanting to make cash.

Even if they were, how would they choose the blogs to use.  It would be the same top blog sites of which many have become far detached from the reasons why they started it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not interested in bloggers as most of us are nobodies that write for free, instead of being media moghuls wanting to make cash.</p>
<p>Even if they were, how would they choose the blogs to use.  It would be the same top blog sites of which many have become far detached from the reasons why they started it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Currie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10505</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, here&#039;s a crazy idea...Maybe the Times should, er, pay the bloggers it&#039;s aggregating. 

Okay, I&#039;ll go and lie down now. This was only a passing bout of insanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, here&#8217;s a crazy idea&#8230;Maybe the Times should, er, pay the bloggers it&#8217;s aggregating. </p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll go and lie down now. This was only a passing bout of insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10499</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As pathetic as Judy&#039;s water-carrying was, she has served a valuable purpose. Is it Cheney that&#039;s going down? Looking like it.

Beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As pathetic as Judy&#8217;s water-carrying was, she has served a valuable purpose. Is it Cheney that&#8217;s going down? Looking like it.</p>
<p>Beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

It&#039;s a club...no one wants to get too far ahead of the herd for fear of the tables being turned on them. Prior to last week press organizations were showeing Miller with awards....it&#039;s going to take a while for the gang to feel safe enough to give Judy a shove...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a club&#8230;no one wants to get too far ahead of the herd for fear of the tables being turned on them. Prior to last week press organizations were showeing Miller with awards&#8230;.it&#8217;s going to take a while for the gang to feel safe enough to give Judy a shove&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/18/the-judy-feed/#comment-10490</link>
		<dc:creator>John Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I worked at the New York Times for nine years. I love the institution. I think itâ€™s absolutely essential to our democracy...&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Essential&quot;?

So essential, I guess, that this &quot;moral leader&quot; (of who?!?!?) and &quot;institution&quot; (oh what a loaded, bloated, egotistical, vomit-inducing term that is) waited months to address fundamental questions &lt;i&gt;about its own reporting&lt;/i&gt;.

It&#039;s simply sickening that a former Timesman like Jones refuses to call a spade a spade here. Why pull the punches, Alex? The lapse in journalism at the Times over the past few years is inexcusable and the fact that journalists are still giving deferential reverence to the Gray Lady with comments like Jones&#039; shows just how insular the upper echelons of journalism remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I worked at the New York Times for nine years. I love the institution. I think itâ€™s absolutely essential to our democracy&#8230;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Essential&#8221;?</p>
<p>So essential, I guess, that this &#8220;moral leader&#8221; (of who?!?!?) and &#8220;institution&#8221; (oh what a loaded, bloated, egotistical, vomit-inducing term that is) waited months to address fundamental questions <i>about its own reporting</i>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply sickening that a former Timesman like Jones refuses to call a spade a spade here. Why pull the punches, Alex? The lapse in journalism at the Times over the past few years is inexcusable and the fact that journalists are still giving deferential reverence to the Gray Lady with comments like Jones&#8217; shows just how insular the upper echelons of journalism remains.</p>
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