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		<title>By: Beware The Man &#187; Since I&#8217;m In Full Adulation Mode&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-29247</link>
		<dc:creator>Beware The Man &#187; Since I&#8217;m In Full Adulation Mode&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The TV news you get is shit, the weekly magazine shit you get is shit, and the newspaper shit you get is shit.Â  More &#8220;news paper&#8221; shit here.Â  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bye now</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-12246</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bye now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] She put her letter up on her own site (see, I told you she&#8217;d end up blogging). On July 6 I chose to go to jail to defend my right as a journalist to protect a confidential source, the same right that enables lawyers to grant confidentiality to their clients, clergy to their parishioners, and physicians and psychotherapists to their patients. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] She put her letter up on her own site (see, I told you she&#8217;d end up blogging). On July 6 I chose to go to jail to defend my right as a journalist to protect a confidential source, the same right that enables lawyers to grant confidentiality to their clients, clergy to their parishioners, and physicians and psychotherapists to their patients. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-12129</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a life.  The average citizen could care less about who leaked what to whom, who was exposed by whom, who worked for whom or who goes to jail because of whom.

The average citizen cares about the price of fuel for his/her automobile, fuel to heat his/her home and the decreasing buying power of the vastly underpaid worker.

The average citizen is sick to their respective stomach seeing &quot;talking heads&quot; rant and rave about poor government, lack of accountability in government and government and the media in general and reporters like Maureen Down and her employer, the Times in particular.

They, the average citizen trying to keep his/her head above water could give a damn about Maureen Dowd, Judy Miller, the CIA or any of it&#039;s employees being &quot;outed&quot; or the consequences of any behavior to those air-heads associated with whatever people like Maureen Dowd is trying to reveal.  What part of &quot;we don&#039;t care&quot; do people like her not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a life.  The average citizen could care less about who leaked what to whom, who was exposed by whom, who worked for whom or who goes to jail because of whom.</p>
<p>The average citizen cares about the price of fuel for his/her automobile, fuel to heat his/her home and the decreasing buying power of the vastly underpaid worker.</p>
<p>The average citizen is sick to their respective stomach seeing &#8220;talking heads&#8221; rant and rave about poor government, lack of accountability in government and government and the media in general and reporters like Maureen Down and her employer, the Times in particular.</p>
<p>They, the average citizen trying to keep his/her head above water could give a damn about Maureen Dowd, Judy Miller, the CIA or any of it&#8217;s employees being &#8220;outed&#8221; or the consequences of any behavior to those air-heads associated with whatever people like Maureen Dowd is trying to reveal.  What part of &#8220;we don&#8217;t care&#8221; do people like her not understand?</p>
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		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-11284</link>
		<dc:creator>dvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10929</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dowd, Liberal Queen? Ha. What a laugh. She won the pulitzer for her 5 years of non-stop assaults on Bill Clinton and probes of his privates. Just because she criticized Bush -- she&#039;s a liberal. I suppose when she bashed the Clintons week after week she was a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dowd, Liberal Queen? Ha. What a laugh. She won the pulitzer for her 5 years of non-stop assaults on Bill Clinton and probes of his privates. Just because she criticized Bush &#8212; she&#8217;s a liberal. I suppose when she bashed the Clintons week after week she was a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: owl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10835</link>
		<dc:creator>owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where to even start?

If Keller believes that Miller is his biggest problem at the NYT, he lives in la-la-land.  Now they want to convince me that Miller was just some lil &quot;out-of-control&quot; journalist  in cahoots with a big bad administration.  Dowd?  The PURE OUTRAGE at Miller.  Have you ever heard such since Miers?  I mean they are all OUTRAGED and shocked.

1.  NYT let their editorials AND news screw facts.  Miller is not standing alone in that position.
2.  Repeat after me, there is not any  non-partisans today,  and 
     certainly not those vaulted writers at NYT.  They vote.....let me guess.
3.  Have you heard any &quot;professional journalist&quot; or left blogger defend 
    Miller in the last 5 years?  No?  So it didn&#039;t just start?
4.  When the NYT did their grand mea culpa on WMDs and &quot;oh why oh why
    didn&#039;t we question the big bad war&quot;, they failed to COUNT.  Yes, I said 
    COUNT.  They failed to take into consideration the facts that would lead
    me not to believe one word of it.  I can COUNT.  So what am I counting?
    How many anti-war articles (psst they like to label a lot of them as 
    news) they run along side of ole Judys.  Yep, she ran One--They ran ??
    Ten??  Twenty???  Problem for the non counters.  
5.  Do you suppose anyone bothered to COUNT the NYT leak stories.  No, I am not talking about Miller/Wilson.  I am COUNTING other CIA leaks published on front pages of NYT.  Where is Judy when you need her?

And after all, this is what its all about, true?  Otherwise, why would any paper run that many pictures of Abu Graib, knowing it was hurting America?  Why would any paper run that many articles on torture, knowing it was hurting America?  

Yes, NYT has problems, but they sure don&#039;t start or stop with Miss Judy.

I could not even find Berger&#039;s name listed as &quot;Berger&quot; during his little misapprobiation of documents stuffed into his socks, taken out of a Secret Place.  So how many (COUNT) times have I COUNTED Rove&#039;s name over the last 2 years?

I have a burning question for the NYT-----What happened between Feb 2003 and May 2003?  Surely they know.  And this one you can&#039;t blame Miller.   The MSM and the Huffs and the Lefties are nuts over Miller not spitting and shedding Libby for their enjoyment.    They kept their mouths shut because they thought she would come through for them.  Eighty-Five days and it was tough, but they kept a lid on it.  When she didn&#039;t, she is TOAST.  So back to my question for all MSM and Keller, because just think how you can be out in front of this ball, instead of hiding behind Miss Judy.

The question?  Who shopped Wilson all over town?  Why aren&#039;t you doing the big reporting on Krisoff&#039;s original article published long before Wilson.  Why did Wilson change the story between Feb 2003 and Krisoff?</description>
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<p>If Keller believes that Miller is his biggest problem at the NYT, he lives in la-la-land.  Now they want to convince me that Miller was just some lil &#8220;out-of-control&#8221; journalist  in cahoots with a big bad administration.  Dowd?  The PURE OUTRAGE at Miller.  Have you ever heard such since Miers?  I mean they are all OUTRAGED and shocked.</p>
<p>1.  NYT let their editorials AND news screw facts.  Miller is not standing alone in that position.<br />
2.  Repeat after me, there is not any  non-partisans today,  and<br />
     certainly not those vaulted writers at NYT.  They vote&#8230;..let me guess.<br />
3.  Have you heard any &#8220;professional journalist&#8221; or left blogger defend<br />
    Miller in the last 5 years?  No?  So it didn&#8217;t just start?<br />
4.  When the NYT did their grand mea culpa on WMDs and &#8220;oh why oh why<br />
    didn&#8217;t we question the big bad war&#8221;, they failed to COUNT.  Yes, I said<br />
    COUNT.  They failed to take into consideration the facts that would lead<br />
    me not to believe one word of it.  I can COUNT.  So what am I counting?<br />
    How many anti-war articles (psst they like to label a lot of them as<br />
    news) they run along side of ole Judys.  Yep, she ran One&#8211;They ran ??<br />
    Ten??  Twenty???  Problem for the non counters.<br />
5.  Do you suppose anyone bothered to COUNT the NYT leak stories.  No, I am not talking about Miller/Wilson.  I am COUNTING other CIA leaks published on front pages of NYT.  Where is Judy when you need her?</p>
<p>And after all, this is what its all about, true?  Otherwise, why would any paper run that many pictures of Abu Graib, knowing it was hurting America?  Why would any paper run that many articles on torture, knowing it was hurting America?  </p>
<p>Yes, NYT has problems, but they sure don&#8217;t start or stop with Miss Judy.</p>
<p>I could not even find Berger&#8217;s name listed as &#8220;Berger&#8221; during his little misapprobiation of documents stuffed into his socks, taken out of a Secret Place.  So how many (COUNT) times have I COUNTED Rove&#8217;s name over the last 2 years?</p>
<p>I have a burning question for the NYT&#8212;&#8211;What happened between Feb 2003 and May 2003?  Surely they know.  And this one you can&#8217;t blame Miller.   The MSM and the Huffs and the Lefties are nuts over Miller not spitting and shedding Libby for their enjoyment.    They kept their mouths shut because they thought she would come through for them.  Eighty-Five days and it was tough, but they kept a lid on it.  When she didn&#8217;t, she is TOAST.  So back to my question for all MSM and Keller, because just think how you can be out in front of this ball, instead of hiding behind Miss Judy.</p>
<p>The question?  Who shopped Wilson all over town?  Why aren&#8217;t you doing the big reporting on Krisoff&#8217;s original article published long before Wilson.  Why did Wilson change the story between Feb 2003 and Krisoff?</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Times&#8217; Rather</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10788</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Times&#8217; Rather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How should The Times undertake this? I made a few suggestions below (and keep in mind that I do not consult to the paper or the newsroom; this is free advice and will be taken as such) but let me add: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10782</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;judith miller IS the classic example of the libreal media you keep talking about. if there were really a liberal media, we would not have been dooped into this illegal war in the first place.&lt;/i&gt;

This remains a self-delusional rewriting of history on the part of many on the left. This statement relies primarily on the assumption that *all* pre-Iraq war intelligence and reporting on Saddam&#039;s WMD was generated solely to support the future war by George W Bush, presumably even as Clinton was reigning for double terms.

It was not liberal or not-liberal to believe or not believe the information on WMD; it was only *AFTER* the Iraq war that many on the left picked up the &quot;we never believed it!&quot; line, presumably to better differentiate themselves from the right (a losing strategy at the ballot box, so far). Pre-Bush, most on the left couldn&#039;t care less if Saddam had WMD or not. It is baldly contemporary strategeering, and not historically valid.

And therefore to make this circular argument that pre-Iraq war WMD reporting has any bearing on the liberal status of big media, the New York Times, or even Judy Miller herself, is simply absurd. Save the spin for campaign commercials; these delusions have no place in a serious discussion on these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>judith miller IS the classic example of the libreal media you keep talking about. if there were really a liberal media, we would not have been dooped into this illegal war in the first place.</i></p>
<p>This remains a self-delusional rewriting of history on the part of many on the left. This statement relies primarily on the assumption that *all* pre-Iraq war intelligence and reporting on Saddam&#8217;s WMD was generated solely to support the future war by George W Bush, presumably even as Clinton was reigning for double terms.</p>
<p>It was not liberal or not-liberal to believe or not believe the information on WMD; it was only *AFTER* the Iraq war that many on the left picked up the &#8220;we never believed it!&#8221; line, presumably to better differentiate themselves from the right (a losing strategy at the ballot box, so far). Pre-Bush, most on the left couldn&#8217;t care less if Saddam had WMD or not. It is baldly contemporary strategeering, and not historically valid.</p>
<p>And therefore to make this circular argument that pre-Iraq war WMD reporting has any bearing on the liberal status of big media, the New York Times, or even Judy Miller herself, is simply absurd. Save the spin for campaign commercials; these delusions have no place in a serious discussion on these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: jaypee</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10772</link>
		<dc:creator>jaypee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Jarvis: Miller needs to go now.</description>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10769</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy Miller should blog? But we already have whitehouse.gov!</description>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10768</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JORGE

Please don&#039;t lapse into the below, rather than making some salient statements about your point of view.  Some people will show their angst rather than their talking points of view which could be very valuable. 

Thanks.

Jorge Says: 

October 22nd, 2005 at 7:34 pm 
RAVO

You seem to be staggeringly drunk on the kool-aid.

Pray to God to help you see the light and sober up.</description>
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<p>Please don&#8217;t lapse into the below, rather than making some salient statements about your point of view.  Some people will show their angst rather than their talking points of view which could be very valuable. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Jorge Says: </p>
<p>October 22nd, 2005 at 7:34 pm<br />
RAVO</p>
<p>You seem to be staggeringly drunk on the kool-aid.</p>
<p>Pray to God to help you see the light and sober up.</p>
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		<title>By: Cog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10766</link>
		<dc:creator>Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stenographer? Why, isnt that what Dowd needs to correct her Dowdification of other peoples comments? The Times has excused Dowd&#039;s and Krugman&#039;s rampant intentional inaccuracies, without clarification, for years. For either of them to crack on Miller is bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stenographer? Why, isnt that what Dowd needs to correct her Dowdification of other peoples comments? The Times has excused Dowd&#8217;s and Krugman&#8217;s rampant intentional inaccuracies, without clarification, for years. For either of them to crack on Miller is bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10762</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 02:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes real guts to kick someone when they are down.  Yeah, right.  Too little too late--Times covering ass.</description>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10761</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it incredible that there are still knuckleheads defending Judith Miller&#039;s reporting of the last several years. It took guts for Maureen Dowd to out one of her own. I would have loved to have been in on the meetings around do we or do we not allow Miss Dowd&#039;s WMD story to go to print. Obviously Judith Miller&#039;s side lost the argument and the American public is the winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it incredible that there are still knuckleheads defending Judith Miller&#8217;s reporting of the last several years. It took guts for Maureen Dowd to out one of her own. I would have loved to have been in on the meetings around do we or do we not allow Miss Dowd&#8217;s WMD story to go to print. Obviously Judith Miller&#8217;s side lost the argument and the American public is the winner.</p>
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		<title>By: AST</title>
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		<dc:creator>AST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[Miller] has hurt this paper and its trust with readers.&quot; 

How could they tell?  Maureen Dowd is hardly the one I&#039;d choose to defend journalism.  They&#039;ve all become celebrities, more important than what they report.   Is it any wonder that Miller is now the star of &quot;Desperate Journalists&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Miller] has hurt this paper and its trust with readers.&#8221; </p>
<p>How could they tell?  Maureen Dowd is hardly the one I&#8217;d choose to defend journalism.  They&#8217;ve all become celebrities, more important than what they report.   Is it any wonder that Miller is now the star of &#8220;Desperate Journalists&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10755</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back on topic here... but WHEN is somebody at the Times gonna be fired over all of this?  Printing mea culpas in the 15th hour written like a scolded kid digging his toe into the dirt with his head down saying, &quot;Golly, I made a mistake,&quot; isn&#039;t cutting it any more.  Not with the staff.  Not with the readers.  Just like in the Jayson Blair scandal, this thing isn&#039;t even close to being over until heads start to roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back on topic here&#8230; but WHEN is somebody at the Times gonna be fired over all of this?  Printing mea culpas in the 15th hour written like a scolded kid digging his toe into the dirt with his head down saying, &#8220;Golly, I made a mistake,&#8221; isn&#8217;t cutting it any more.  Not with the staff.  Not with the readers.  Just like in the Jayson Blair scandal, this thing isn&#8217;t even close to being over until heads start to roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAVO

        You seem to be staggeringly drunk on the kool-aid.

        Pray to God to help you see the light and sober up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAVO</p>
<p>        You seem to be staggeringly drunk on the kool-aid.</p>
<p>        Pray to God to help you see the light and sober up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Maureen Dowd writes seriously -- and she is quite serious about the reputation of the New York Times -- she reminds me of how she got an op-ed column in the first place.  Like Judith Miller, she needs an editor.  The Times needs to rein in all its prima donnas.  There&#039;s been way too much amok lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Maureen Dowd writes seriously &#8212; and she is quite serious about the reputation of the New York Times &#8212; she reminds me of how she got an op-ed column in the first place.  Like Judith Miller, she needs an editor.  The Times needs to rein in all its prima donnas.  There&#8217;s been way too much amok lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Currie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10750</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miller told her readers what the intelligence services of the world were telling their clients. That there were WMDs. We now know there is lots of evidence that there was a WMD program. The weapons themselves have not turned up and Syria or a number of other locations may contain them. Or, they may never have existed and the Saddamists were running a brilliant deception operation. In any event, no one came up with the headline &quot;Saddam bluffing&quot;.

Miller&#039;s editors should certainly have put some caveats in her reporting. They didn&#039;t.

For MoMo to be dumping on Miller at this point is interesting as she thereby avoids asking how Ms. Run Amok was allowed to continue. (And, I&#039;ll bet, encouraged.) Because the only thing which scares MoMo more than W is the prospect that the NYT has ceased to be taken seriously as a paper of record.

It is now pretty much a rather large daily talking points memo for the leftish end of American politics. Sadly, as such it is losing readers fast and gradually being marginalized as a source of analysis. It&#039;s sister paper, the Boston Globe is losing readers in droves as people begin to realize that the NYT world view is stuck in 1975.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miller told her readers what the intelligence services of the world were telling their clients. That there were WMDs. We now know there is lots of evidence that there was a WMD program. The weapons themselves have not turned up and Syria or a number of other locations may contain them. Or, they may never have existed and the Saddamists were running a brilliant deception operation. In any event, no one came up with the headline &#8220;Saddam bluffing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Miller&#8217;s editors should certainly have put some caveats in her reporting. They didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>For MoMo to be dumping on Miller at this point is interesting as she thereby avoids asking how Ms. Run Amok was allowed to continue. (And, I&#8217;ll bet, encouraged.) Because the only thing which scares MoMo more than W is the prospect that the NYT has ceased to be taken seriously as a paper of record.</p>
<p>It is now pretty much a rather large daily talking points memo for the leftish end of American politics. Sadly, as such it is losing readers fast and gradually being marginalized as a source of analysis. It&#8217;s sister paper, the Boston Globe is losing readers in droves as people begin to realize that the NYT world view is stuck in 1975.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10749</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...the Russians are binding themselves tightly to Iran and North Korea â€¦ &quot; 

 American foreign policy has been so undermined by the anti-war movement, media opposition and poor public relations by the Bush administration that even threatening military action against Iran would be untenable. 

This is the chief problem with the left&#039;s &lt;b&gt;attempted&lt;/b&gt; subversion of the war in Iraq: It has reinforced the impression that Americans cannot maintain a strong foreign policy in the face of a determined opposition. 

Such an impression will only lead to greater anti-American activity in the Muslim world. 

Meanwhile, Americans become more and more convinced that in order for us to consider military or covert action, a threat must fully materialize beyond a shadow of a doubt. 

This is a recipe for disaster: an unwilling public, an unable administration and an unafraid enemy. &lt;/i&gt;

Keep it up liberal left media...left to your devices, the good people of this nation would get what only YOU deserve. 
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/10/19/171895.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;the Russians are binding themselves tightly to Iran and North Korea â€¦ &#8221; </p>
<p> American foreign policy has been so undermined by the anti-war movement, media opposition and poor public relations by the Bush administration that even threatening military action against Iran would be untenable. </p>
<p>This is the chief problem with the left&#8217;s <b>attempted</b> subversion of the war in Iraq: It has reinforced the impression that Americans cannot maintain a strong foreign policy in the face of a determined opposition. </p>
<p>Such an impression will only lead to greater anti-American activity in the Muslim world. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Americans become more and more convinced that in order for us to consider military or covert action, a threat must fully materialize beyond a shadow of a doubt. </p>
<p>This is a recipe for disaster: an unwilling public, an unable administration and an unafraid enemy. </i></p>
<p>Keep it up liberal left media&#8230;left to your devices, the good people of this nation would get what only YOU deserve.<br />
<a href="http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/10/19/171895.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/10/19/171895.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Heretik</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10747</link>
		<dc:creator>The Heretik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ROUGH TRADE&lt;/strong&gt;

 WHAT IS A REPORTER to do? You cultivate your sources, you till fertile ground. You get the good dirt. Then you print the manure. In the case of Judith Miller and the New York Times reporting on government, reporting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ROUGH TRADE</strong></p>
<p> WHAT IS A REPORTER to do? You cultivate your sources, you till fertile ground. You get the good dirt. Then you print the manure. In the case of Judith Miller and the New York Times reporting on government, reporting</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The following is excerpted from the Plame Game, by J.B. Williams:&lt;/b&gt;

Democrats are becoming increasingly shrill in their attacks, growing more desperate by the moment, and being more willing to abuse our legal system for political purposes. 

Is it working?  Again, as I have been predicting, NO! 

Are they successful in manipulating polls to show a lack of support for this administration, our military effort, or our economic successes?  

Sure, because this is a game played on their home-field in the liberal media, all at their advantage.  But what impact is it having with real mainstream Americans?  According to RNC fund-raising efforts, it seems to be even further energizing the team, just as I also predicted. 

What Democrats just donâ€™t get is that the American people are sick and tired of back-stabbing politics of personal destruction.  They are well aware of the fact that the Democratic Party hasnâ€™t had a single positive original idea in forty years and they are not at all convinced that their life sucks or that it is the federal governmentâ€™s job to manage peopleâ€™s personal lives even if it does.  

Democrats have a vision for America alright: a socialist vision based on a welfare-state full of beer slurping Big Mac-eating couch potatoes too lazy to care for themselves, and willing to exchange their freedom for a meager federal handout from a handful of socialist Democratic elites hungry for political power.  

They have a strategy, too.  It is one based on destroying the Republican Party in order to improve their own public image by default. 

But it isnâ€™t an American vision and it isnâ€™t a winning strategy. Neither is new and both have been failing for years now.  But donâ€™t expect the DNC leaders to come up with anything new or positive anytime soon.  They are officially the â€œglass is half emptyâ€ party.  They couldnâ€™t muster a positive thought if their life depended on it.  

So kick back and continue to enjoy the Howard Dean-led implosion of the DNC.  Get some popcorn and a coke.  Itâ€™s going to get really entertaining in the upcoming election cycle.

http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=17457</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The following is excerpted from the Plame Game, by J.B. Williams:</b></p>
<p>Democrats are becoming increasingly shrill in their attacks, growing more desperate by the moment, and being more willing to abuse our legal system for political purposes. </p>
<p>Is it working?  Again, as I have been predicting, NO! </p>
<p>Are they successful in manipulating polls to show a lack of support for this administration, our military effort, or our economic successes?  </p>
<p>Sure, because this is a game played on their home-field in the liberal media, all at their advantage.  But what impact is it having with real mainstream Americans?  According to RNC fund-raising efforts, it seems to be even further energizing the team, just as I also predicted. </p>
<p>What Democrats just donâ€™t get is that the American people are sick and tired of back-stabbing politics of personal destruction.  They are well aware of the fact that the Democratic Party hasnâ€™t had a single positive original idea in forty years and they are not at all convinced that their life sucks or that it is the federal governmentâ€™s job to manage peopleâ€™s personal lives even if it does.  </p>
<p>Democrats have a vision for America alright: a socialist vision based on a welfare-state full of beer slurping Big Mac-eating couch potatoes too lazy to care for themselves, and willing to exchange their freedom for a meager federal handout from a handful of socialist Democratic elites hungry for political power.  </p>
<p>They have a strategy, too.  It is one based on destroying the Republican Party in order to improve their own public image by default. </p>
<p>But it isnâ€™t an American vision and it isnâ€™t a winning strategy. Neither is new and both have been failing for years now.  But donâ€™t expect the DNC leaders to come up with anything new or positive anytime soon.  They are officially the â€œglass is half emptyâ€ party.  They couldnâ€™t muster a positive thought if their life depended on it.  </p>
<p>So kick back and continue to enjoy the Howard Dean-led implosion of the DNC.  Get some popcorn and a coke.  Itâ€™s going to get really entertaining in the upcoming election cycle.</p>
<p><a href="http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=17457" rel="nofollow">http://chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=17457</a></p>
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		<title>By: shark</title>
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		<dc:creator>shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sadly, our President fights two wars. Al Queda, and Our Media&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it&#039;s 3 wars, because he&#039;s had to deal with factions at CIA and State who have been actively working (and leaking) against him.

In the meantime. Oil for Food is now tied in ever closer to Saddam AND Al Qaeda.....not that anyone outside of FNC or WSJ seem to care much. Guess they know which war is REALLY important to them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sadly, our President fights two wars. Al Queda, and Our Media</i></p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s 3 wars, because he&#8217;s had to deal with factions at CIA and State who have been actively working (and leaking) against him.</p>
<p>In the meantime. Oil for Food is now tied in ever closer to Saddam AND Al Qaeda&#8230;..not that anyone outside of FNC or WSJ seem to care much. Guess they know which war is REALLY important to them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10742</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, our President fights two wars.  Al Queda, and Our Media.  

The Commander in Chief, the Generals, the officers, the troops, the Iraqis &lt;b&gt;and the enemy&lt;/b&gt; all understand that the only way we can lose this war is if the people of the United States lose their will to fight it.  

Our media seems to be doing everything it can to slant its coverage of the war in an attempt to erode public support and hinder President Bush from reaching his well defined objectives. 

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=9772</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, our President fights two wars.  Al Queda, and Our Media.  </p>
<p>The Commander in Chief, the Generals, the officers, the troops, the Iraqis <b>and the enemy</b> all understand that the only way we can lose this war is if the people of the United States lose their will to fight it.  </p>
<p>Our media seems to be doing everything it can to slant its coverage of the war in an attempt to erode public support and hinder President Bush from reaching his well defined objectives. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=9772" rel="nofollow">http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=9772</a></p>
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		<title>By: KirkPete</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/10/22/dowd-v-miller/#comment-10741</link>
		<dc:creator>KirkPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those calling for Bill Keller&#039;s head... He was a columnist during the time of Judy Miller&#039;s misadventures in reporting.  He became Executive Editor in 2003 (according to the NYTCo website).  While he could be criticized, I suppose, for not acting faster to overturn the prior administration&#039;s mistakes, or for not pulling the plug on the paper&#039;s support for its imprisoned reporter.  But the Miss Run Amok activity occurred on Howell Raines&#039; watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those calling for Bill Keller&#8217;s head&#8230; He was a columnist during the time of Judy Miller&#8217;s misadventures in reporting.  He became Executive Editor in 2003 (according to the NYTCo website).  While he could be criticized, I suppose, for not acting faster to overturn the prior administration&#8217;s mistakes, or for not pulling the plug on the paper&#8217;s support for its imprisoned reporter.  But the Miss Run Amok activity occurred on Howell Raines&#8217; watch.</p>
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