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By: Steve Outing’s lessons on user-generated content: ‘the overall experience was weak’ « Sour Alba

Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:32:22 +0000

[...] and I got umpteen beers bought for me (score!). But I got a slap in the wrist from none other than Sir Jeff of Jarvis. And the representative from pure cit-j play Backfence dismissed me as [...]

By: bio

bio — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:56:23 +0000

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By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Saving journalism isn’t about saving jobs

Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:14:04 +0000

[...] This is what the Online News Association meeting should have been about. This is what journalism school must be about. [...]

By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Privilege for whom?

BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Privilege for whom? — Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:08:00 +0000

[...] On the other hand, it can’t make me uncomfortable to see journalists in the same role as any citizen. Didn’t an editor at the Online News Association almost tearfully plea that we shouldn’t call bloggers “citizen journalists” because journalists are citizens, too? Indeed. Journalists are citizens and need to stop living apart from the community but be again a part of it. [...]

By: Tish Grier

Tish Grier — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:05:31 +0000

Jeff…I read Rafat Ali’s comments about the lack of passion and the lack of entrepreneurs. It was a fussy kid’s whine. The fact remains, and you know this Jeff, that the new citizen journalists, the ones who just might have the passion to change things aren’t sitting in expensive conferences. We have day jobs or are in grad school. We have the passion and self-publish daily. For y’all to try to find us takes alot of reduction of noise and it’s not easy but we are there.

There used to be a philosophy that the general liberal arts education could get one somewhere–even into a field completely unrelated to what one studied. Yet nowadays everything is professionalized and one can’t get that job unless one goes to a fancy grad school. What you media guys need to do is start *discovering* some of us–help us out a bit. Give us jobs, mentor us. Not belittle us and try to find ways to commodify us by selling us on the idea of pasting cheezeball ads on our blogs. Or making us work for wages far below someone with less talent and more education can earn straight out of school.

Don’t just read our resumes…read our lives. We are articulate, educated and life experienced. We are doing it, but could do a heck of alot more with a little bit of a leg up.

By: Stewart Kirkpatrick

Stewart Kirkpatrick — Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:20:17 +0000

Hey Jeff,

I’m the “guy from the Scotsman”. You obviously didn’t take in my follow-up comment. I wasn’t indulging in “destructive nya-nyaing” – I said that one should choose the surgeon who had a proven track record. The point being that – blogger, citizen journalist or dinosaur – we will live or die by the quality of what we produce.

But, hey, we’d all separated into armed camps by that time so the finer aspects of my point got lost.

Cheers,

Stewart The Guy From The Scotsman