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	<title>Comments on: A nation of hairy palms</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-13302</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was searching around when i found this post and I don't think alot of people are in the position to state your opinions about Pornography addictions and even Jill Manning. I've been in treatment centers for almost a year now for the past mistakes i've made, and for the people that have porn addictions you can see how much it effects thier life. The first time I heard of porn addictions, and I'm sure that this goes for most people, that you think its a joke or something. I can definatley say that it is no joke. I am not a member of the LDS church but i'm living in a 90% population of mormons. I don't think this is just a "mormon" think if that is what people are thinking. I know Jill Manning and she is not just some conservative mormon. People need to research about pornography addictions before they go and bad mouth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was searching around when i found this post and I don&#8217;t think alot of people are in the position to state your opinions about Pornography addictions and even Jill Manning. I&#8217;ve been in treatment centers for almost a year now for the past mistakes i&#8217;ve made, and for the people that have porn addictions you can see how much it effects thier life. The first time I heard of porn addictions, and I&#8217;m sure that this goes for most people, that you think its a joke or something. I can definatley say that it is no joke. I am not a member of the LDS church but i&#8217;m living in a 90% population of mormons. I don&#8217;t think this is just a &#8220;mormon&#8221; think if that is what people are thinking. I know Jill Manning and she is not just some conservative mormon. People need to research about pornography addictions before they go and bad mouth it.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12676</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He prefers unreligious bigots like you, Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He prefers unreligious bigots like you, Guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12665</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very classy blog Jeff.  Do you routinely allow it to be used as a forum for religious bigots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very classy blog Jeff.  Do you routinely allow it to be used as a forum for religious bigots?</p>
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		<title>By: Moroni</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12490</link>
		<dc:creator>Moroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jill, I can't read your piece because I've already gone blind from masturbating to internet porn. All I can say is, now that I'm blind, I miss the good sex. I've now been forced to switch from erotic internet visual images to my own self generated mental erotic S&#38;M images of Brigham Young sadistically torturing and murdering all those dozens of non-Mormon pioneer folks down at Mountain Meadows, and then taking their little kids as tiny slaves to be raised to become good Mormon wives (the cute ones anyway). When I wear out that fantasy, I start thinking about Brigham Young's 25 sex-slaves, er, I mean "wives" (especially the sexy one who divorced him and said he was a sadist and an SOB). I especially like to fantasize about how he didn't need artificial stim like porn because he could do four or five obedient "wives" every night, and "marry" a new young one anytine he wanted (I mean, heck, they had no other options, and he was a GOOD catch!). Hey, Ms. Manning, I'm all FOR your Mormon Plan for banning internet porn, and then the Mormon plan for banning women from working outside the home, and then allowing legal multi-marriage in Utah again and, hey, I'll get two or three unemployed female PhD's (or better yet, some newly unemployed female lawyers!), have our multi-marriages sealed in the temple, and then have a little sex party right at home every night, and I'd promise NEVER to masturbate ever again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jill, I can&#8217;t read your piece because I&#8217;ve already gone blind from masturbating to internet porn. All I can say is, now that I&#8217;m blind, I miss the good sex. I&#8217;ve now been forced to switch from erotic internet visual images to my own self generated mental erotic S&amp;M images of Brigham Young sadistically torturing and murdering all those dozens of non-Mormon pioneer folks down at Mountain Meadows, and then taking their little kids as tiny slaves to be raised to become good Mormon wives (the cute ones anyway). When I wear out that fantasy, I start thinking about Brigham Young&#8217;s 25 sex-slaves, er, I mean &#8220;wives&#8221; (especially the sexy one who divorced him and said he was a sadist and an SOB). I especially like to fantasize about how he didn&#8217;t need artificial stim like porn because he could do four or five obedient &#8220;wives&#8221; every night, and &#8220;marry&#8221; a new young one anytine he wanted (I mean, heck, they had no other options, and he was a GOOD catch!). Hey, Ms. Manning, I&#8217;m all FOR your Mormon Plan for banning internet porn, and then the Mormon plan for banning women from working outside the home, and then allowing legal multi-marriage in Utah again and, hey, I&#8217;ll get two or three unemployed female PhD&#8217;s (or better yet, some newly unemployed female lawyers!), have our multi-marriages sealed in the temple, and then have a little sex party right at home every night, and I&#8217;d promise NEVER to masturbate ever again!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATIONâ€¦.a Guide to Self Control....
(distributed by the Mormon Church to students at Brigham Young University as recently as the 1950â€™s â€“ this is NOT a joke)

Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Determination is the first step. You must first decide that you will end this practice, and when you make that decision, the problem will be greatly reduced at once. 

Observe the following specific guidelines: 

Never touch the intimate parts of your body expect during the normal toilet process. 

Avoid being alone as much as possible.  

When you bathe, do not admire yourself in the mirror. Never bathe more than five or six minutes--just long enough to wash, dry and get dressed, and then GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM and into another room where someone else is present. Take cool, brief showers.

It is sometimes helpful to have a physical object to use in overcoming this problem.  In extreme cases the Book of Mormon, held firmly in the predominant hand in bed at night, has proven helpful. 

In very severe cases it may be necessary to tie the hand to the bed frame in order that the habit of masturbating in a semi-sleep condition can be broken. 

When in bed, dress for the night in layers of clothing so that you cannot easily touch yourself.  

Never read pornographic material. Keep it out of your mind. Remember--"first a thought, then an act." 

Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books, such as the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. 

Pray, but when you pray, don't pray about this problem.  That will tend to keep it in your mind more. Pray for the missionaries, the Mormon General Authorities, and your family, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT IN YOUR PRAYERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STEPS IN OVERCOMING MASTURBATIONâ€¦.a Guide to Self Control&#8230;.<br />
(distributed by the Mormon Church to students at Brigham Young University as recently as the 1950â€™s â€“ this is NOT a joke)</p>
<p>Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Determination is the first step. You must first decide that you will end this practice, and when you make that decision, the problem will be greatly reduced at once. </p>
<p>Observe the following specific guidelines: </p>
<p>Never touch the intimate parts of your body expect during the normal toilet process. </p>
<p>Avoid being alone as much as possible.  </p>
<p>When you bathe, do not admire yourself in the mirror. Never bathe more than five or six minutes&#8211;just long enough to wash, dry and get dressed, and then GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM and into another room where someone else is present. Take cool, brief showers.</p>
<p>It is sometimes helpful to have a physical object to use in overcoming this problem.  In extreme cases the Book of Mormon, held firmly in the predominant hand in bed at night, has proven helpful. </p>
<p>In very severe cases it may be necessary to tie the hand to the bed frame in order that the habit of masturbating in a semi-sleep condition can be broken. </p>
<p>When in bed, dress for the night in layers of clothing so that you cannot easily touch yourself.  </p>
<p>Never read pornographic material. Keep it out of your mind. Remember&#8211;&#8221;first a thought, then an act.&#8221; </p>
<p>Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books, such as the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. </p>
<p>Pray, but when you pray, don&#8217;t pray about this problem.  That will tend to keep it in your mind more. Pray for the missionaries, the Mormon General Authorities, and your family, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT IN YOUR PRAYERS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12445</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  do not think Phallic worshiping is an ideal pursuit for the human race. It should be discouraged by society.

  Having said that my question is .  Who in the Republican administration is worshiping GANNON-GUKKURT'S DONG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  do not think Phallic worshiping is an ideal pursuit for the human race. It should be discouraged by society.</p>
<p>  Having said that my question is .  Who in the Republican administration is worshiping GANNON-GUKKURT&#8217;S DONG.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Stricklin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12443</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles W. Stricklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I agree with those who testified as to the detrimental effects of porn on both the individual and the family, I cannot condone the federal government wasting its valuable time and resources policing it,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I agree with those who testified as to the detrimental effects of porn on both the individual and the family, I cannot condone the federal government wasting its valuable time and resources policing it,</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12439</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't use non original papers...

My Life, My Blog.
http://www.timsblog.co.nr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t use non original papers&#8230;</p>
<p>My Life, My Blog.<br />
<a href="http://www.timsblog.co.nr" rel="nofollow">http://www.timsblog.co.nr</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you even read the papers you linked to, Guy? The first is just a paper by a graduate student, possibly his doctoral thesis. It is not a study but simply cites some studies done by other people. It's not even by a social scientist, psychologist or psychiatrist but someone in the school of communications.

Also, here is the conclusion to the second linked paper:
" This paper has provided an overview of the limited effects - powerful effects debate about pornography. From this presentation, it should be clear that just like debates about television violence or the effect of the mass media in general, there are no clear answers. As such, it would seem that the best conclusion one can reach about the effect of pornography is that it "does not serve as a necessary and sufficient cause of audience effects, but rather functions among and through a nexus of mediating factors and influences (Klapper, 1960)." Thus bringing us full circle, back to the limited effects conclusion that sparked pornography research in the first place.".

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of your condemnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you even read the papers you linked to, Guy? The first is just a paper by a graduate student, possibly his doctoral thesis. It is not a study but simply cites some studies done by other people. It&#8217;s not even by a social scientist, psychologist or psychiatrist but someone in the school of communications.</p>
<p>Also, here is the conclusion to the second linked paper:<br />
&#8221; This paper has provided an overview of the limited effects - powerful effects debate about pornography. From this presentation, it should be clear that just like debates about television violence or the effect of the mass media in general, there are no clear answers. As such, it would seem that the best conclusion one can reach about the effect of pornography is that it &#8220;does not serve as a necessary and sufficient cause of audience effects, but rather functions among and through a nexus of mediating factors and influences (Klapper, 1960).&#8221; Thus bringing us full circle, back to the limited effects conclusion that sparked pornography research in the first place.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not exactly a ringing endorsement of your condemnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12427</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politician	Gentlemen, we have to find something new to tax.
Second Official	I understood that.
Third Official	If I might put my head on the chopping block so you can kick it around a bit, sir...
Politician	Yes?
Third Official	Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one.
Politician	What do you mean?
Third Official	Well, er, smoking's been taxed, drinking's been taxed but not ... thingy.
Politician	Good Lord, you're not suggesting we should tax... thingy?
First Official	Poo poo's?
Third Official	No.
First Official	Thank God for that. Excuse me for a moment. (leaves)
Third Official	No, no, no - thingy.
Second Official	Number ones?
Third Official	No, thingy.
Politician	Thingy!
Second Official	Ah, thingy. Well it'll certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job.

--Monty Python</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politician	Gentlemen, we have to find something new to tax.<br />
Second Official	I understood that.<br />
Third Official	If I might put my head on the chopping block so you can kick it around a bit, sir&#8230;<br />
Politician	Yes?<br />
Third Official	Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one.<br />
Politician	What do you mean?<br />
Third Official	Well, er, smoking&#8217;s been taxed, drinking&#8217;s been taxed but not &#8230; thingy.<br />
Politician	Good Lord, you&#8217;re not suggesting we should tax&#8230; thingy?<br />
First Official	Poo poo&#8217;s?<br />
Third Official	No.<br />
First Official	Thank God for that. Excuse me for a moment. (leaves)<br />
Third Official	No, no, no - thingy.<br />
Second Official	Number ones?<br />
Third Official	No, thingy.<br />
Politician	Thingy!<br />
Second Official	Ah, thingy. Well it&#8217;ll certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job.</p>
<p>&#8211;Monty Python</p>
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		<title>By: Spiffy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12426</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Baute, where do you get your repugnant porn?  All I can ever find is naked people screwing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Baute, where do you get your repugnant porn?  All I can ever find is naked people screwing.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Ames</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12424</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one is born of sexual relations one shall be liable to taxation, and so we already do tax sex, or at least its occassional result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one is born of sexual relations one shall be liable to taxation, and so we already do tax sex, or at least its occassional result.</p>
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		<title>By: Impacted Colon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12423</link>
		<dc:creator>Impacted Colon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hands off my sheep, government prudes! Er, &lt;strong&gt;your&lt;/strong&gt; hands off my sheep, I mean, of course. Especially Mathilda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands off my sheep, government prudes! Er, <strong>your</strong> hands off my sheep, I mean, of course. Especially Mathilda.</p>
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		<title>By: Sexy talk at Jason Preston</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12418</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexy talk at Jason Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis noticed the recent government talks on porn, and he&#8217;s right: it&#8217;s ridiculous. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis noticed the recent government talks on porn, and he&#8217;s right: it&#8217;s ridiculous. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KirkH</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12417</link>
		<dc:creator>KirkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, tevelvangelists generally pull stunts like this right before they're arrested for soliciting prostitution.  

I bet you could make a killing selling keyboard hair removal vacuums in Utah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, tevelvangelists generally pull stunts like this right before they&#8217;re arrested for soliciting prostitution.  </p>
<p>I bet you could make a killing selling keyboard hair removal vacuums in Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Baute</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12416</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Baute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff-

To equate "God-given sex" with the repugnance that is most porn is ridiculous and beneath you.


Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff-</p>
<p>To equate &#8220;God-given sex&#8221; with the repugnance that is most porn is ridiculous and beneath you.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12415</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,  I'm sure you're bright enough to realize that sex is not the same as pornography--never has been, never will be.  How unfortunate you equate the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re bright enough to realize that sex is not the same as pornography&#8211;never has been, never will be.  How unfortunate you equate the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12414</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Guy, without God-given sex, we wouldn't be here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Guy, without God-given sex, we wouldn&#8217;t be here.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/11/a-nation-of-hairy-palms/#comment-12413</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed Poinsett

Thanks for the pointer.  You're absolutely right.  Except that there are some studies much more reliable than others:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&#38;b=35422

By the way, have you read the one about the "Flat Earth?"

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

Regards as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Poinsett</p>
<p>Thanks for the pointer.  You&#8217;re absolutely right.  Except that there are some studies much more reliable than others:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&amp;b=35422" rel="nofollow">http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&amp;b=35422</a></p>
<p>By the way, have you read the one about the &#8220;Flat Earth?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm</a></p>
<p>Regards as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Poinsett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Poinsett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy Murray

You can find a study that fits your needs on any subject. My favorite is the myth about second hand smoke. Believe me, if there were any actuarial proof of that, insurance companies wouldn't sell non-smoker policies to anyone who lives with a smoker. Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy Murray</p>
<p>You can find a study that fits your needs on any subject. My favorite is the myth about second hand smoke. Believe me, if there were any actuarial proof of that, insurance companies wouldn&#8217;t sell non-smoker policies to anyone who lives with a smoker. Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Thus no more silly crap like this"

What part is the silly part Jeff?  The fact of the matter is that study after study clearly shows porn to be adictive, and harmful to all it touches from the participants to the connoisseurs.  Are we to just take your word for it that the content of Jill Manning's presentation is just "silly crap?"

Afterall, your credentials for waxing forth on this subject are indeed impeccable, i.e., former TV Critic for TV Guide, and creator of Entertainment Weekly.  Why should we pay any attention to any of the studies that support Jill Manning?

See for example:

http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?pornsEffects.htm

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/chunter/porn_effects.html

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_ovrvw.html

There are many, many more studies and individuals much more qualifed than a former TV critic for TV Guide to render an informed opinion on the evils of pornography.

Of course, it's pretty easy to take cheap shots at the person, rather than the content of their message.  Ms. Manning is a PhD student in Marriage and Family Therapy.  

http://fhss.byu.edu/fhssnewsletter/fall%2005%20newsletter/manning.htm

So, naturally we ought to give greater weight to your much more informed opinion (as a former TV critic for TV Guide) on the subject than one who is spending a great deal of time and scholastic effort to actually study the issue.

True, BYU is no party school.  I've actually been on campus, have you?  Imagine that, a campus where one doesn't have to read about student deaths attributed to binge drinking.  Or one that doesn't sell pornography at the book store.   Ranked 71 by U.S. News and World report in their rankings of U.S. Best Colleges, I can see why you would immediately discount the institution as well as the scholar.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_3670_brief.php

Sorry Jeff, the only "silly crap" here is your inane post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thus no more silly crap like this&#8221;</p>
<p>What part is the silly part Jeff?  The fact of the matter is that study after study clearly shows porn to be adictive, and harmful to all it touches from the participants to the connoisseurs.  Are we to just take your word for it that the content of Jill Manning&#8217;s presentation is just &#8220;silly crap?&#8221;</p>
<p>Afterall, your credentials for waxing forth on this subject are indeed impeccable, i.e., former TV Critic for TV Guide, and creator of Entertainment Weekly.  Why should we pay any attention to any of the studies that support Jill Manning?</p>
<p>See for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?pornsEffects.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?pornsEffects.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/chunter/porn_effects.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/chunter/porn_effects.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_ovrvw.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_ovrvw.html</a></p>
<p>There are many, many more studies and individuals much more qualifed than a former TV critic for TV Guide to render an informed opinion on the evils of pornography.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s pretty easy to take cheap shots at the person, rather than the content of their message.  Ms. Manning is a PhD student in Marriage and Family Therapy.  </p>
<p><a href="http://fhss.byu.edu/fhssnewsletter/fall%2005%20newsletter/manning.htm" rel="nofollow">http://fhss.byu.edu/fhssnewsletter/fall%2005%20newsletter/manning.htm</a></p>
<p>So, naturally we ought to give greater weight to your much more informed opinion (as a former TV critic for TV Guide) on the subject than one who is spending a great deal of time and scholastic effort to actually study the issue.</p>
<p>True, BYU is no party school.  I&#8217;ve actually been on campus, have you?  Imagine that, a campus where one doesn&#8217;t have to read about student deaths attributed to binge drinking.  Or one that doesn&#8217;t sell pornography at the book store.   Ranked 71 by U.S. News and World report in their rankings of U.S. Best Colleges, I can see why you would immediately discount the institution as well as the scholar.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_3670_brief.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_3670_brief.php</a></p>
<p>Sorry Jeff, the only &#8220;silly crap&#8221; here is your inane post.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much online porn comes from Eastern Europe. Another industry outsourced...

Short of putting Chinese-style internet filters and censors on all traffic what do the morally upset want to do about it?

Sounds like more pre-election pandering to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much online porn comes from Eastern Europe. Another industry outsourced&#8230;</p>
<p>Short of putting Chinese-style internet filters and censors on all traffic what do the morally upset want to do about it?</p>
<p>Sounds like more pre-election pandering to me.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring it on, and be sure to study the works of I. Libby ( I for illicit?) et al.   For more good examples, go to http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000281.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring it on, and be sure to study the works of I. Libby ( I for illicit?) et al.   For more good examples, go to <a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000281.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000281.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: ArtD0dger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArtD0dger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  The Meese commission invented the â€œsnuff filmâ€ to justify their clampdown.  What similarly twisted fantasies do you suppose the new prudes are indulging in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  The Meese commission invented the â€œsnuff filmâ€ to justify their clampdown.  What similarly twisted fantasies do you suppose the new prudes are indulging in?</p>
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