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	<title>Comments on: Taking the pajamas off</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Augean Stables &#187; PJs II: Morning Panels &#8212; There&#8217;s Something Happening Here</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-41838</link>
		<dc:creator>Augean Stables &#187; PJs II: Morning Panels &#8212; There&#8217;s Something Happening Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The situation became particularly surreal when the nice looking blonde girl on the panel, began talking about the make-up styles of celebrities: &#8220;I trash them every Saturday.&#8221; Stunned silence. Some people started moving uncomfortably in their seats, others looked bemused and, others like Pedro, were slowly becoming aware that the joke was on us. I felt like the Roman soldiers in Life of Brian trying desperately not to laugh as Pontius Pilate talks about his fwend Biggus Dickus and his wife Incontinentia Buttox. I wondered how many people out in cyberspace were dropping out in astonished dismay. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The situation became particularly surreal when the nice looking blonde girl on the panel, began talking about the make-up styles of celebrities: &#8220;I trash them every Saturday.&#8221; Stunned silence. Some people started moving uncomfortably in their seats, others looked bemused and, others like Pedro, were slowly becoming aware that the joke was on us. I felt like the Roman soldiers in Life of Brian trying desperately not to laugh as Pontius Pilate talks about his fwend Biggus Dickus and his wife Incontinentia Buttox. I wondered how many people out in cyberspace were dropping out in astonished dismay. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beating Up On Pajamas Media</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13572</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beating Up On Pajamas Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] They now call themselves Open Source Media (or OSM for short), and already people are piling on the criticism. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They now call themselves Open Source Media (or OSM for short), and already people are piling on the criticism. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American Daughter</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13326</link>
		<dc:creator>American Daughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the beef?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the beef?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13299</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BeautyAddict trackbacked:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://beautyaddict.blogspot.com/2005/11/attack-of-fashion-bloggers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Attack of the Fashion Bloggers&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BeautyAddict trackbacked:</p>
<p><a href="http://beautyaddict.blogspot.com/2005/11/attack-of-fashion-bloggers.html" rel="nofollow">Attack of the Fashion Bloggers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Open Source &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Name Problem, Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13069</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Source &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Name Problem, Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis, Taking the Pajamas Off, Buzzmachine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13047</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It means more people will read Dean Esmay&#039;s crazy ideas about AIDS, for one thing, as well as Hugh Hewitt&#039;s and LaShawn Barber&#039;s crazy ideas about Intelligent Design, and the LGF community&#039;s recipes for BBQ&#039;d Arab will reach a wider audience. Aside from that, not much.  OK, we might nuke Mecca too, but that&#039;s far from certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means more people will read Dean Esmay&#8217;s crazy ideas about AIDS, for one thing, as well as Hugh Hewitt&#8217;s and LaShawn Barber&#8217;s crazy ideas about Intelligent Design, and the LGF community&#8217;s recipes for BBQ&#8217;d Arab will reach a wider audience. Aside from that, not much.  OK, we might nuke Mecca too, but that&#8217;s far from certain.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hub isn&#039;t what&#039;s important.  What&#039;s important are the spokes.  And in this case there are very influential ones among them, with thousands of subscribers each and thousands of readers each.  This amounts, very much, to a Google influencing link-farm.  

Question is - what does that mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hub isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s important.  What&#8217;s important are the spokes.  And in this case there are very influential ones among them, with thousands of subscribers each and thousands of readers each.  This amounts, very much, to a Google influencing link-farm.  </p>
<p>Question is &#8211; what does that mean?</p>
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		<title>By: rzklkng</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-13009</link>
		<dc:creator>rzklkng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this noise and no one covered the obvious reason for such an enterprise...gee, something pretty important is going to happen in 2006, and people will probably be spending a lot of money online (on blogs), and there&#039;s really no established hub for conservative sites except for fringers like LGF and Freep...where will the GOP through money for their ads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this noise and no one covered the obvious reason for such an enterprise&#8230;gee, something pretty important is going to happen in 2006, and people will probably be spending a lot of money online (on blogs), and there&#8217;s really no established hub for conservative sites except for fringers like LGF and Freep&#8230;where will the GOP through money for their ads?</p>
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		<title>By: lgfwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12976</link>
		<dc:creator>lgfwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So OSM has launched, and the overwhelming reaction from the blogosphere has been flak for the name and the lack of a decent business plan.

That&#039;s a start. But when are people going to start asking how it is that a load of people with a desire to go legit in the world of political commentary could affiliate themselves with a website whose special brand of bigotry has made it a household name for rabid right-wing racism against Arabs?

LGF is one of the key weakpoints in this whole enterprise. Guys, look up: there&#039;s an elephant in the room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So OSM has launched, and the overwhelming reaction from the blogosphere has been flak for the name and the lack of a decent business plan.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a start. But when are people going to start asking how it is that a load of people with a desire to go legit in the world of political commentary could affiliate themselves with a website whose special brand of bigotry has made it a household name for rabid right-wing racism against Arabs?</p>
<p>LGF is one of the key weakpoints in this whole enterprise. Guys, look up: there&#8217;s an elephant in the room!</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12894</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl, your post led me to some other links, and I have to say that -- as someone fairly unconcerned about OSM/Pajamas and their detractors -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://althouse.blogspot.com/2005/11/taking-off-pajamas-now-what-do-you-see.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ann Althouse&lt;/a&gt; seems to be far more on point about the real weaknesses of the venture:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
But what do you think of the new Open Source site? Is it fun to use and workable? I notice a lot of flabbiness in the writing.

...

And why should anyone care what these bloggers think? Who are they? Unless you&#039;re already sold on blogging, the teasers are laughable: &quot;Blogger Joshuapundit seems quite unhappy,&quot; &quot;War to Mobilize Democracy is &#039;nervous,&#039;&quot; Anything They Say &quot;is pleasantly surprised.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She seems to have got under their skin, too. These weaknesses go much deeper than silly debates over names and trademarks, or who they&#039;re inviting to speak at a function. I visited the OSM site yesterday, and as she suggests, its not particularly fun *or* workable. Nothing about it was inviting, and I was loathe to surf anywhere past the homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, your post led me to some other links, and I have to say that &#8212; as someone fairly unconcerned about OSM/Pajamas and their detractors &#8212; <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2005/11/taking-off-pajamas-now-what-do-you-see.html" rel="nofollow">Ann Althouse</a> seems to be far more on point about the real weaknesses of the venture:</p>
<blockquote><p>
But what do you think of the new Open Source site? Is it fun to use and workable? I notice a lot of flabbiness in the writing.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>And why should anyone care what these bloggers think? Who are they? Unless you&#8217;re already sold on blogging, the teasers are laughable: &#8220;Blogger Joshuapundit seems quite unhappy,&#8221; &#8220;War to Mobilize Democracy is &#8216;nervous,&#8217;&#8221; Anything They Say &#8220;is pleasantly surprised.&#8221;
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<p>She seems to have got under their skin, too. These weaknesses go much deeper than silly debates over names and trademarks, or who they&#8217;re inviting to speak at a function. I visited the OSM site yesterday, and as she suggests, its not particularly fun *or* workable. Nothing about it was inviting, and I was loathe to surf anywhere past the homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12892</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;All I can say is Iâ€™ve had exactly two complaints about what Iâ€™m doing in the last month.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not really complaining, just sort of... amused and astounded.

You don&#039;t seem to be reporting on OSM/Pajamas so much as actively working for its defeat. Regardless of popularity or pageviews, that&#039;s kind of sad, but you seem to have your reasons.

By the way, while we&#039;re on the subject of infringement, I notice that in the masthead of the DennisThePeasant blog, there is a prominent display of a character name (Dennis the Peasant), trademark line (&quot;Help, help! I&#039;m being repressed!&quot;), and a photograph (Michael Palin as Dennis the Peasant) from a copyrighted film (Monty Python and the Holy Grail). I trust DennisThePeasant is not just using that material assuming some sort of fair use (in that it constitutes the identity of his entire blog), and that he has obtained the proper permissions for doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All I can say is Iâ€™ve had exactly two complaints about what Iâ€™m doing in the last month.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really complaining, just sort of&#8230; amused and astounded.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t seem to be reporting on OSM/Pajamas so much as actively working for its defeat. Regardless of popularity or pageviews, that&#8217;s kind of sad, but you seem to have your reasons.</p>
<p>By the way, while we&#8217;re on the subject of infringement, I notice that in the masthead of the DennisThePeasant blog, there is a prominent display of a character name (Dennis the Peasant), trademark line (&#8220;Help, help! I&#8217;m being repressed!&#8221;), and a photograph (Michael Palin as Dennis the Peasant) from a copyrighted film (Monty Python and the Holy Grail). I trust DennisThePeasant is not just using that material assuming some sort of fair use (in that it constitutes the identity of his entire blog), and that he has obtained the proper permissions for doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12890</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normall do this - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phillyfuture.org/node/2112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;but couldn&#039;t help it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normall do this &#8211; <a href="http://www.phillyfuture.org/node/2112" rel="nofollow">but couldn&#8217;t help it</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Snitch!</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12886</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Snitch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just on the outside looking in, and have been observing for some time. This thing looks worse every minute. (Who knew I&#039;d wind up agreeing with James Wolcott on ANY thing?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just on the outside looking in, and have been observing for some time. This thing looks worse every minute. (Who knew I&#8217;d wind up agreeing with James Wolcott on ANY thing?)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12885</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It would never occur to anyone that I would carry this through to the Launch date and then let it go?&lt;/i&gt;

Every ax-grinding reaches a point where additional efforts will only degrade the blade, Dennis. Others are reacting to Open Sores now, and will judge it on its merits. Your personal beef is obviously very interesting to you, but perhaps a bit less so to others.

But in any event, this is Mr. Jarvis&#039; blog and it&#039;s impolite to use up too much of it on issues of limited relevance to others. Note that I&#039;m basically on your side, and that I&#039;m simply commenting on your methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It would never occur to anyone that I would carry this through to the Launch date and then let it go?</i></p>
<p>Every ax-grinding reaches a point where additional efforts will only degrade the blade, Dennis. Others are reacting to Open Sores now, and will judge it on its merits. Your personal beef is obviously very interesting to you, but perhaps a bit less so to others.</p>
<p>But in any event, this is Mr. Jarvis&#8217; blog and it&#8217;s impolite to use up too much of it on issues of limited relevance to others. Note that I&#8217;m basically on your side, and that I&#8217;m simply commenting on your methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12854</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I&#039;ll stick with Memeorandum.

I wish them all the best, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ll stick with Memeorandum.</p>
<p>I wish them all the best, though.</p>
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		<title>By: EverKarl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12850</link>
		<dc:creator>EverKarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bit on fashion probably is tied to the Manolo being part of OSM.  And while a prior commenter did not &quot;get&quot; the Manolo, he&#039;s already making six figures doing it, so there must be an audience for it.  I&#039;m not championing it, just noting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bit on fashion probably is tied to the Manolo being part of OSM.  And while a prior commenter did not &#8220;get&#8221; the Manolo, he&#8217;s already making six figures doing it, so there must be an audience for it.  I&#8217;m not championing it, just noting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12847</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, for me this has little to do with the left vs right thing and far more to do with precedent and &quot;getting&quot; the web.  Whether it be from the left, or right, the naming of this organization is a move that smacks of ignorance and media-huckersterism.  It is oh-so old-schoolish as to be ironic.

Oh and Open Source Media - the *real* OSM, has posted about this here:
http://www.radioopensource.org/open-source-media-in-case-youre-confused/

They bring up creative commons licensing rightly because they GET what that those two words mean. 

That bit of the licensing I posted previously which - Jeff - you probably should remove because it is probably in violation of - shows just how....

closed...

this thing is.

Open source?  Bullshit.  That&#039;s what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, for me this has little to do with the left vs right thing and far more to do with precedent and &#8220;getting&#8221; the web.  Whether it be from the left, or right, the naming of this organization is a move that smacks of ignorance and media-huckersterism.  It is oh-so old-schoolish as to be ironic.</p>
<p>Oh and Open Source Media &#8211; the *real* OSM, has posted about this here:<br />
<a href="http://www.radioopensource.org/open-source-media-in-case-youre-confused/" rel="nofollow">http://www.radioopensource.org/open-source-media-in-case-youre-confused/</a></p>
<p>They bring up creative commons licensing rightly because they GET what that those two words mean. </p>
<p>That bit of the licensing I posted previously which &#8211; Jeff &#8211; you probably should remove because it is probably in violation of &#8211; shows just how&#8230;.</p>
<p>closed&#8230;</p>
<p>this thing is.</p>
<p>Open source?  Bullshit.  That&#8217;s what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12843</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisThePeasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:

Come on...

It would never occur to anyone that I would carry this through to the Launch date and then let it go?

And the only people who think bad &quot;buzz&quot; is better than &quot;no buzz&quot; are those in Hollywood. How&#039;s that industry doing these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>
<p>Come on&#8230;</p>
<p>It would never occur to anyone that I would carry this through to the Launch date and then let it go?</p>
<p>And the only people who think bad &#8220;buzz&#8221; is better than &#8220;no buzz&#8221; are those in Hollywood. How&#8217;s that industry doing these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bennett</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12840</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Dennis, deranged. I&#039;ve enjoyed your rants and linked to them, but you are rapidly descending into &quot;needs to get a life&quot; territory. 

PJ has made all sorts of silly mistakes and managed to come to their opening day with more enemies than Bush, but there it is and so what? Now the question is whether they succeed or fail in the ad selling business, and if you&#039;re right they&#039;ll fail, and that will be your reward.

By complaining about them all over the internets you&#039;re also making buzz for their business, which is really quite ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Dennis, deranged. I&#8217;ve enjoyed your rants and linked to them, but you are rapidly descending into &#8220;needs to get a life&#8221; territory. </p>
<p>PJ has made all sorts of silly mistakes and managed to come to their opening day with more enemies than Bush, but there it is and so what? Now the question is whether they succeed or fail in the ad selling business, and if you&#8217;re right they&#8217;ll fail, and that will be your reward.</p>
<p>By complaining about them all over the internets you&#8217;re also making buzz for their business, which is really quite ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12834</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deranged?

I&#039;m shocked.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m shocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian S.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl: Slashdot will love it if you market it right.  Seemingly 99% of /. commenters (and all the owners) are unthinking leftists, so the angle that Rethuglican K-K-Fascists are misusing the term &quot;open source&quot; will go over big there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl: Slashdot will love it if you market it right.  Seemingly 99% of /. commenters (and all the owners) are unthinking leftists, so the angle that Rethuglican K-K-Fascists are misusing the term &#8220;open source&#8221; will go over big there.</p>
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		<title>By: corvan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, you realize how deranged that sounds don&#039;t you?</description>
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		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/16/taking-the-pajamas-off/#comment-12824</link>
		<dc:creator>Decision &#8216;08 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open Source Media Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DennisThePeasant</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennisThePeasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carson Fire:

All I can say is I&#039;ve had exactly two complaints about what I&#039;m doing in the last month. My traffic, as of today, has increased tenfold over the past month. My links and backtracks have increased twentyfold. Nearly all of it coming from Liberal/Left sites who despise Roger and Charles even more than I (some of it is amazingly vicious). As I am a member of the VRWC, they aren&#039;t there to bask in my political orientation. 

Bottom line? Dirt seems to sell... And you may find this hard to believe, but Roger Simon and Charles Johnson have pissed off a whole lot of people who wanted to get involved in PJM/OSM... he didn&#039;t cheat them, he just dropped them the moment they were no longer of any use to him. I&#039;ve got a folder stuffed with emails from bloggers complaining about how badly they were treated by Roger. And lots of them are happy I&#039;m doing what I&#039;m doing.

Roger and Charles had the choice of compensating myself and our fourth partner for dealing with as they did and they chose not to do so. I wanted my pound of flesh, and this is how I chose to get it. People have killed over less money that I&#039;ve lost in this deal, and given that, he&#039;s lucky it was me he screwed, rather than someone with a real mean streak and a gun.

I have repeatedly embarrassed them, and I have been told by someone within the OSM circle who has DIRECT knowledge that at least one of Roger&#039;s venture capitalists reads my blog every morning... That&#039;s what got Luke Ford fired and got OSM&#039;s New York telephone number working. So chances are, tomorrow Roger&#039;s going to be getting a telephone call about whether OSM has a legal problem involving trademark infringement. That&#039;s the whole point of what I&#039;m doing right now... showing the world that the boy wonders are winging it.

And if it isn&#039;t pretty, well, it isn&#039;t pretty. I can live with my part in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson Fire:</p>
<p>All I can say is I&#8217;ve had exactly two complaints about what I&#8217;m doing in the last month. My traffic, as of today, has increased tenfold over the past month. My links and backtracks have increased twentyfold. Nearly all of it coming from Liberal/Left sites who despise Roger and Charles even more than I (some of it is amazingly vicious). As I am a member of the VRWC, they aren&#8217;t there to bask in my political orientation. </p>
<p>Bottom line? Dirt seems to sell&#8230; And you may find this hard to believe, but Roger Simon and Charles Johnson have pissed off a whole lot of people who wanted to get involved in PJM/OSM&#8230; he didn&#8217;t cheat them, he just dropped them the moment they were no longer of any use to him. I&#8217;ve got a folder stuffed with emails from bloggers complaining about how badly they were treated by Roger. And lots of them are happy I&#8217;m doing what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
<p>Roger and Charles had the choice of compensating myself and our fourth partner for dealing with as they did and they chose not to do so. I wanted my pound of flesh, and this is how I chose to get it. People have killed over less money that I&#8217;ve lost in this deal, and given that, he&#8217;s lucky it was me he screwed, rather than someone with a real mean streak and a gun.</p>
<p>I have repeatedly embarrassed them, and I have been told by someone within the OSM circle who has DIRECT knowledge that at least one of Roger&#8217;s venture capitalists reads my blog every morning&#8230; That&#8217;s what got Luke Ford fired and got OSM&#8217;s New York telephone number working. So chances are, tomorrow Roger&#8217;s going to be getting a telephone call about whether OSM has a legal problem involving trademark infringement. That&#8217;s the whole point of what I&#8217;m doing right now&#8230; showing the world that the boy wonders are winging it.</p>
<p>And if it isn&#8217;t pretty, well, it isn&#8217;t pretty. I can live with my part in it.</p>
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		<title>By: corvan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff it&#039;s not a test.  It&#039;s a fact.  You have used much more invective on Judy Miller than you used on Mapes, even when Mapes showed up on television to claim that her story was well sourced and perfectly true.  Yet you follow Judy Miller about rather closely.  I can&#039;t help but wonder why?  I also would assume that knwoingly covering up the deaths of millions would be a reall issue as well.  Especially when one of the parties complicit in the cover-up refuses to return a prize awarded their employee for for said cover-up.  That&#039;s not an issue to you?  If not why not?  Do you have some sort of realtionship with the Times or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff it&#8217;s not a test.  It&#8217;s a fact.  You have used much more invective on Judy Miller than you used on Mapes, even when Mapes showed up on television to claim that her story was well sourced and perfectly true.  Yet you follow Judy Miller about rather closely.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder why?  I also would assume that knwoingly covering up the deaths of millions would be a reall issue as well.  Especially when one of the parties complicit in the cover-up refuses to return a prize awarded their employee for for said cover-up.  That&#8217;s not an issue to you?  If not why not?  Do you have some sort of realtionship with the Times or something?</p>
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