Comments on: PJs are just so comfy

By: BBBBBBB

BBBBBBB — Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:30:33 +0000

sour grapes Jeff, exactly Leslie, style over substance is the wrong investment strategy for the Pajamas conglomerates.

After reading up some on how this venture came to be, we see the cheating, backstabbing, lying, scumbag, mentality crept into the minds of some in the blogosphere. This Pajamas media will crash before the end of the year.

Enough of that, How bout a Bloggers take over of Nightline, a perfect timeslot. The 3 hosts they’re going to have won’t hold!! ABC needs to think big here in order to develop and invest in the future of media presentation. This is a chance for an alternative media formatibilty to step in. Which is the NAKED NEWS!!!!!!! YES!!!!!! SEE THE MONEY TO MADE HERE ABC!!!!!! Elizabeth Vargas, Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer host Naked News Nightline.

By: Leslie Jump

Leslie Jump — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:10:58 +0000

Jeff, your posts on the naming saga of Pajamas Media are right on target. Pajamas Media got caught up in the whirlwind of the funding cycle and even though they’re a “web 2.0″ company it seems like they took a few plays out of the “web. 1.0″ handbook. (A launch at the Rainbow Room with Judy Miller? How many bloggers hang out there?). I should have sent them my post on naming a company (Forget Marketing Alchemy: The Realist’s Process for Naming a Company). To your point, they need to spend more time thinking about the company and what they want to be (and why) than picking logos and party planning.

By: richard mcenroe

richard mcenroe — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:01:11 +0000

Jeff, there’s been nothing humorous or graceful out of OSM/Pajamas/Occupant so far.

I give it ’til next fall, myself. After the fiscal quarter, if they haven’t developed any significant ad revenue, look for the investors to at least oust Roger and Charles in favor of their own management team, if they don’t pull the plug entirely… and a 3-million investment, though most of us would goggle at it, simply isn’t enough to justify the expense of headhunting and installing a new management team.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:48:29 +0000

The X over OSM still beats CNN’s X over Cheney.

By: Carson Fire

Carson Fire — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:28:20 +0000

Now John Kerry needs to get his name back from this software company that used to be called ScanSoft.

You know they ripped it off from him, because how many other people think “nuance” means “a strong, clear and unified position”?

By: Benjamin

Benjamin — Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:13:52 +0000

Sorry I fell for that guff about a branding company. Another Simon fib.

As a commenter points out here, the change of name was fully discussed on Simon’s site, and Open Source was suggested there.

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By: Eileen

Eileen — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:30:34 +0000

Some out there are calling for another launch partayy.

Heh.

I agree with Jeff this time (LHM): “PJs are just so comfy”.

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:25:50 +0000

Actually, no, I just liked that story, but if everyone would like to believe that I was being deep and meaningful, I’m certainly going to do nothing to dispel that myth.

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:13:27 +0000

So let me get this straight - you think the Pajama folks are planning revenge with “lighthearted glee” and that they got a gift of fish heads from their critics?

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:02:51 +0000

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:59:11 +0000

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:47:30 +0000

My father had a friend who was a butcher and they were always kidding each other. One day my father stopped in to chat with him and he sent him home with a “little something special” wrapped in brown paper. When my father got home, looking forward to a nice sirloin steak, he handed the package to my mother and asked her to fry it up. She opened it and found a pile of fish heads.

I hope that should I ever recieve a pile of fish heads from a friend that I can laugh like my father did and plot revenge with the same lighthearted glee.

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:37:20 +0000

I hope, if I ever look to be on the way to such a situation, someone yells at me to “Stoop, stoop!”. That person would be a good friend for doing so.

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:30:11 +0000

Thanks Karl. I enjoyed that article.

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:01:44 +0000

I shouldn’t have called it a gimmick. That’s unfair. Beyond that - I’ll stick by the rest. You absolutely should give folks some slack on launch. Shoot - as far as any online service goes - you should give folks slack - established or not. This is still a new world no matter what someone is selling you.

http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1611.htm

Being transparent, open and humble all help to earn slack. Otherwise - when you bang your head - you will definately get called on it.

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:46:10 +0000

Karl, I don’t have a problem with it. The article was on their home page all day. You can expect a few teething problems with a new launch. I’m williing to cut them that much slack. It’s not like their site was down.

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:31:48 +0000

Thats for people going direct to the site. The url that got propagated out thru thousands of blogs got changed.

Check out Jeff’s post or today’s Slashdot post.

Sloppy at the least. Manipulative at the worst.

By: Noel Guinane

Noel Guinane — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:27:26 +0000

The article is on their home page, under Top Stories, and has been all day.

By: Karl

Karl — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:32:36 +0000

What a gimmick!!!!!!!!! get folks to link to a particular page on a site - and then put it behind a registration wall.

It’s new location is here:

http://www.osm.org/site/story/copy_of_11212005namechange?currow=1

By: Tex MacRae

Tex MacRae — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:17:15 +0000

Earlier today you could link straight over to the articleâ€¦ now it links to some type of fill in the blank registration pageâ€¦ WTF??? That's exactly why I put it here when I posted about the name change.

By: Niko

Niko — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:11:06 +0000

It’s because OSM.org runs on the Plone CMS, and someone changed the access control of said page from anon user, i.e. anonymous website user, to user, i.e. logged-in user.

By: Madfish Willie

Madfish Willie — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:01:04 +0000

Earlier today you could link straight over to the article… now it links to some type of fill in the blank registration page… WTF???

By: Niko

Niko — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:00:54 +0000

“Pajamas Media” is perfectly fine with the Alzheimer’s ads that were running to the right.

By: tony

tony — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:10:24 +0000

good for them.

without any sarcasm i can honestly say that i like that name. it fits what they attest to being perfectly.

maybe now the Instapundit wont be so shy about talking about them.