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		<title>By: Market Anomaly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2005-11-26</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-15511</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Anomaly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2005-11-26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» Our loss [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew J. Stinson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14999</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew J. Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor correction to Mark Foreman's comment above:  while I cannot speak for his friend, in my neck of the Chinese woods (Tianjin/Beijing), Blogspot blogs have been unblocked for more than a month, as has (more importantly) the Google cache.  Typepad has been reblocked, unfortunately.  However, with the Google cache unblocked a lot of sites are available even if the actual site is censored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor correction to Mark Foreman&#8217;s comment above:  while I cannot speak for his friend, in my neck of the Chinese woods (Tianjin/Beijing), Blogspot blogs have been unblocked for more than a month, as has (more importantly) the Google cache.  Typepad has been reblocked, unfortunately.  However, with the Google cache unblocked a lot of sites are available even if the actual site is censored.</p>
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		<title>By: dan-leonard.com/blog &#187; Blogger banned from entering US</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14422</link>
		<dc:creator>dan-leonard.com/blog &#187; Blogger banned from entering US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Help Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine with his testimonial site, in honour of star blogger Hossein Derakhshan. Jeff is leading the drive (he&#8217;s not the only one) to help Hossein, a blogger of some notoriety who has been banned from the US for 6 months, following inspection of his blog by a border guard. Hossein&#8217;s coverage of the Iran situation was obviously too much for our peace loving comrades from accross the pond. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Help Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine with his testimonial site, in honour of star blogger Hossein Derakhshan. Jeff is leading the drive (he&#8217;s not the only one) to help Hossein, a blogger of some notoriety who has been banned from the US for 6 months, following inspection of his blog by a border guard. Hossein&#8217;s coverage of the Iran situation was obviously too much for our peace loving comrades from accross the pond. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American Madness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iranian Advocate of Free Speech, Democracy, and Individual Rights Turned Back at U.S. Border</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14376</link>
		<dc:creator>American Madness &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iranian Advocate of Free Speech, Democracy, and Individual Rights Turned Back at U.S. Border</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis defended Hoder and called for the support of the blogosphere: &#8220;I will write a testimonial for Hossein telling how he is advancing the causes of freedom and democracy in Iran and elsewhere on earth.  I will write to my senators.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis defended Hoder and called for the support of the blogosphere: &#8220;I will write a testimonial for Hossein telling how he is advancing the causes of freedom and democracy in Iran and elsewhere on earth.  I will write to my senators.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Market Anomaly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iranian Advocate of Free Speech, Democracy, and Individual Rights Turned Back at U.S. Border</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14373</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Anomaly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iranian Advocate of Free Speech, Democracy, and Individual Rights Turned Back at U.S. Border</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis defended Hoder and called for the support of the blogosphere: &#8220;I will write a testimonial for Hossein telling how he is advancing the causes of freedom and democracy in Iran and elsewhere on earth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis defended Hoder and called for the support of the blogosphere: &#8220;I will write a testimonial for Hossein telling how he is advancing the causes of freedom and democracy in Iran and elsewhere on earth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: must remain anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14370</link>
		<dc:creator>must remain anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 04:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment on his blog after hitting the link to his tale.

That was a damned weak refusal. The man was frank and honest to the Inspector when a pearson who presents a real threat will give that same Inspector a shit eating grin and bullshit his way right into the U.S..

That's just a sad state of the paranoia that is the border these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment on his blog after hitting the link to his tale.</p>
<p>That was a damned weak refusal. The man was frank and honest to the Inspector when a pearson who presents a real threat will give that same Inspector a shit eating grin and bullshit his way right into the U.S..</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a sad state of the paranoia that is the border these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoodia</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14353</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoodia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to China many times.  The internet in China is very slow and unreliable.  However their cel phones work just about everywhere!  - Hoodia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to China many times.  The internet in China is very slow and unreliable.  However their cel phones work just about everywhere!  - Hoodia</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Forman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14322</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Forman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is both sad and  unfortunate that our government would take this stand on not admitting this Iranian blogger, I am hardly surprised by their stupid or incomprehesible actions  anymore. Their logic, albeit "fuzzy" is also quite simple-CIA puppet,Shah governed Iran:good. Turban-headed Islam-fundamentalist, not in our vest pocket Iran:bad.

FYI-I live in Taiwan and just received e-mail from an old American friend living in Shanghai, China. She informed me she could only access my Wordpress hosted blog, not any of my Blogger hosted blogs. China has blocked Google/Blogger blogs carte blanche. They better hurry up and fork over a massive buy-in to some Chinese concern, so that government officials can siphon off  big chunk of that,thereby  paving the way for smooth "sailing on the sea" of China business. Make sure you turn over any Chinese dissidents/democracy advocates while you're at it-ala Jerry Yang and the "Yahooligans", especially if you want to be invited to the "right" functions while playing footsie in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is both sad and  unfortunate that our government would take this stand on not admitting this Iranian blogger, I am hardly surprised by their stupid or incomprehesible actions  anymore. Their logic, albeit &#8220;fuzzy&#8221; is also quite simple-CIA puppet,Shah governed Iran:good. Turban-headed Islam-fundamentalist, not in our vest pocket Iran:bad.</p>
<p>FYI-I live in Taiwan and just received e-mail from an old American friend living in Shanghai, China. She informed me she could only access my Wordpress hosted blog, not any of my Blogger hosted blogs. China has blocked Google/Blogger blogs carte blanche. They better hurry up and fork over a massive buy-in to some Chinese concern, so that government officials can siphon off  big chunk of that,thereby  paving the way for smooth &#8220;sailing on the sea&#8221; of China business. Make sure you turn over any Chinese dissidents/democracy advocates while you&#8217;re at it-ala Jerry Yang and the &#8220;Yahooligans&#8221;, especially if you want to be invited to the &#8220;right&#8221; functions while playing footsie in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14279</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do now. 

http://committeetoprotectbloggers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2005/11/24/1420509.html 

I've also written to (OR) Sen. Ron Wyden and (OR) Rep. Peter DeFazio.

And I daresay Jeff's comment re. Iran was to underscore the fact that WE EXPECT A DAMNED SITE BETTER from our govt. officials, and Hoder was in Iran (you know, axis of evil?) to bear witness during what passes for an election there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do now. </p>
<p><a href="http://committeetoprotectbloggers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2005/11/24/1420509.html" rel="nofollow">http://committeetoprotectbloggers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2005/11/24/1420509.html</a> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also written to (OR) Sen. Ron Wyden and (OR) Rep. Peter DeFazio.</p>
<p>And I daresay Jeff&#8217;s comment re. Iran was to underscore the fact that WE EXPECT A DAMNED SITE BETTER from our govt. officials, and Hoder was in Iran (you know, axis of evil?) to bear witness during what passes for an election there.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14250</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll make sure that the folks over a The Committee to Protect Bloggers (http://committeetoprotectbloggers.civiblog.org) know about this.  I don't see that they've posted anything about it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll make sure that the folks over a The Committee to Protect Bloggers (http://committeetoprotectbloggers.civiblog.org) know about this.  I don&#8217;t see that they&#8217;ve posted anything about it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Cone</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14246</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Cone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh - I see it was the ConvergeSouth trip that undid him. Unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh - I see it was the ConvergeSouth trip that undid him. Unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Cone</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14243</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Cone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, huh? The guy brings a free press to Iran at some risk to his own safety...and the US government treats him like a danger to &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; saftey...

They wouldn't let him come to Greensboro in October for the ConvergeSouth conference, either -- and Hoder, gentleman that he is, seemed more concerned about missing his sessions than about his own problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, huh? The guy brings a free press to Iran at some risk to his own safety&#8230;and the US government treats him like a danger to <i>our</i> saftey&#8230;</p>
<p>They wouldn&#8217;t let him come to Greensboro in October for the ConvergeSouth conference, either &#8212; and Hoder, gentleman that he is, seemed more concerned about missing his sessions than about his own problems.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14240</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is definitely a deplorable situation, but come on, spare us the ridiculous jab suggesting iran is in any way -- in any way -- even remotely more liberal than the USA. just when one thinks you are a fairminded and openminded source, along comes this. blecccch, jeff. bleccch.

the current or just recent New Yorker has an excellent piece detailing the price young Iranians are paying for blogging -- 60 days in solitary confinement in a cell just barely large enough to hold a human body (laying down) and the constant and very real threat of torture and death:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?051121fa_fact4

I know you hate GWB, and the Patriot Act amd Rumsfield and all the rest, but please -- please -- spare us the extremely ridiculous and noxious rhetoric. At its very worst, our country is a Shangri-la of freedom and social mobility and progressivism compared to essentially any other place on Earth. Do we need massive and radical change and improvement -- hell yes. But let's get on with that work without resorting to such inflammatory overstatement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is definitely a deplorable situation, but come on, spare us the ridiculous jab suggesting iran is in any way &#8212; in any way &#8212; even remotely more liberal than the USA. just when one thinks you are a fairminded and openminded source, along comes this. blecccch, jeff. bleccch.</p>
<p>the current or just recent New Yorker has an excellent piece detailing the price young Iranians are paying for blogging &#8212; 60 days in solitary confinement in a cell just barely large enough to hold a human body (laying down) and the constant and very real threat of torture and death:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?051121fa_fact4" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?051121fa_fact4</a></p>
<p>I know you hate GWB, and the Patriot Act amd Rumsfield and all the rest, but please &#8212; please &#8212; spare us the extremely ridiculous and noxious rhetoric. At its very worst, our country is a Shangri-la of freedom and social mobility and progressivism compared to essentially any other place on Earth. Do we need massive and radical change and improvement &#8212; hell yes. But let&#8217;s get on with that work without resorting to such inflammatory overstatement?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Heaton</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/11/24/our-loss/#comment-14217</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this is a terrible loss for us, but my own experience with the border folks suggests it'll be nearly impossible to get that guard's ruling overturned. My case involved a company I used to run (It was a Canadian company AND a U.S. company) and a Toronto woman who worked for me. She got held up at the border for a visa impropriety. The more she argued, the more intransigent the guard became. She was not allowed back into the U.S., despite the efforts of my Congressman.

Of course, I didn't have the mighty voices of the blogosphere on my side. I'll do my part. Let's hope we succeed, because Hossein certainly is a beacon of freedom to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this is a terrible loss for us, but my own experience with the border folks suggests it&#8217;ll be nearly impossible to get that guard&#8217;s ruling overturned. My case involved a company I used to run (It was a Canadian company AND a U.S. company) and a Toronto woman who worked for me. She got held up at the border for a visa impropriety. The more she argued, the more intransigent the guard became. She was not allowed back into the U.S., despite the efforts of my Congressman.</p>
<p>Of course, I didn&#8217;t have the mighty voices of the blogosphere on my side. I&#8217;ll do my part. Let&#8217;s hope we succeed, because Hossein certainly is a beacon of freedom to the world.</p>
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