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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16686</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Canâ€™t we at least have shared, one-time registration for all these damned local newspaper sites?"

Why, no!  Think of the loss to their pinpoint accurate advertising!  Their ads for specials at the local mall are so tempting, I would imagine people are jumping into airplanes all across the land to take advantage of them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Canâ€™t we at least have shared, one-time registration for all these damned local newspaper sites?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why, no!  Think of the loss to their pinpoint accurate advertising!  Their ads for specials at the local mall are so tempting, I would imagine people are jumping into airplanes all across the land to take advantage of them!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.cjr.org/issues/2005/6/editorial.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;CJR Article Nov. 2005&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;i&gt;The good news for newspapers in this country is that they make good money. ... the weighted average of profit margins for the newspaper divisions of major media companies was 13 percent in 1991. &lt;b&gt;It had climbed to nearly 20 percent last year â€” more than double the average profit margin of the Fortune 500.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

1) This industry needs to learn how to thrive on profit margins that are decidely less than double the average of the Fortune 500.
2) This industry needs to harness technology to reduce costs without sacrificing the quality of their content.  (I live in a college town.  A letter to the editor today described how the university is hiring 16 administrative types at $144k/year while greatly expanding the percentage of part-time academics who are paid 40% of the compensation currently paid to f/t professors and w/o benefits.  Guess what is going to suffer?  I suspect the special people in the MSM also misallocate funds.)
3) There will always be subscribers.  I climb in bed with the New Yorker not with my laptop.  And, I do prefer the print version of the WSJ and I routinely pick up magazines.  Subscription rates simply won't grow at the rates that had been previously forecasted.  The task at hand is to keep the subscription rates currently in place.  
4) We're a nation of news junkies.  They'll figure this out.

I still think an individual in a foreign country should be able to access our media without filters or have articles subject to interpretation by local journalists.  Sometimes, items of importance get lost in translation.  Other times, local journalists may not be able to get stories published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cjr.org/issues/2005/6/editorial.asp" rel="nofollow">CJR Article Nov. 2005</a><br />
<i>The good news for newspapers in this country is that they make good money. &#8230; the weighted average of profit margins for the newspaper divisions of major media companies was 13 percent in 1991. <b>It had climbed to nearly 20 percent last year â€” more than double the average profit margin of the Fortune 500.</b></i></p>
<p>1) This industry needs to learn how to thrive on profit margins that are decidely less than double the average of the Fortune 500.<br />
2) This industry needs to harness technology to reduce costs without sacrificing the quality of their content.  (I live in a college town.  A letter to the editor today described how the university is hiring 16 administrative types at $144k/year while greatly expanding the percentage of part-time academics who are paid 40% of the compensation currently paid to f/t professors and w/o benefits.  Guess what is going to suffer?  I suspect the special people in the MSM also misallocate funds.)<br />
3) There will always be subscribers.  I climb in bed with the New Yorker not with my laptop.  And, I do prefer the print version of the WSJ and I routinely pick up magazines.  Subscription rates simply won&#8217;t grow at the rates that had been previously forecasted.  The task at hand is to keep the subscription rates currently in place.<br />
4) We&#8217;re a nation of news junkies.  They&#8217;ll figure this out.</p>
<p>I still think an individual in a foreign country should be able to access our media without filters or have articles subject to interpretation by local journalists.  Sometimes, items of importance get lost in translation.  Other times, local journalists may not be able to get stories published.</p>
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		<title>By: KirkH</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16563</link>
		<dc:creator>KirkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 03:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate said: &lt;i&gt;"My fear is that many households in this country and certainly many households in developing countries cannot afford to access paid content. This would be a shame."&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe that content wouldn't exist if jounalists couldn't be paid to create it because of a lack of subscription revenue.  Hopefully the journalists in developing countries will subscribe, maybe at a discount, and spread the ideas, if not the exact words, on to their readers with the benefit local context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate said: <i>&#8220;My fear is that many households in this country and certainly many households in developing countries cannot afford to access paid content. This would be a shame.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Maybe that content wouldn&#8217;t exist if jounalists couldn&#8217;t be paid to create it because of a lack of subscription revenue.  Hopefully the journalists in developing countries will subscribe, maybe at a discount, and spread the ideas, if not the exact words, on to their readers with the benefit local context.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspaperperson: 
Well and strongly said. 
Yes, and when you dare not to recite the cultish cant, you're marked as suspect, eh? 
When I left a  newspapering company, a friend and colleague from years past emailed and just said, well, it's no wonder considering what I say about newspapers. Marked man, me. 
So be careful behind the walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspaperperson:<br />
Well and strongly said.<br />
Yes, and when you dare not to recite the cultish cant, you&#8217;re marked as suspect, eh?<br />
When I left a  newspapering company, a friend and colleague from years past emailed and just said, well, it&#8217;s no wonder considering what I say about newspapers. Marked man, me.<br />
So be careful behind the walls.</p>
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		<title>By: NewspaperMan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16549</link>
		<dc:creator>NewspaperMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 23:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've worked for a major newspaper for over 20 years, and the self-serving "specialness" attitude you describe is an overpowering, stifling weight that infuses every conversation, meeting and committee throughout the paper.  Whether it's editorial or business matters, "no one does it like we do" is the oft-repeated refrain.   

This drives some of us, well, nuts.  We buy and sell a product--gathering news and ads and putting them into a package that is meant to serve readers and advertisers.   HOW we do that internally is less relevant than the fact that it needs to be done (I'm a big believer in the notion that a newspaper helps contribute to the community, civics, etc.)  But as you've often said, if we don't satisfy and serve these readers and advertisers in our present form, our "specialness" won't help us survive.   

The ability to figure this out, and fast, is not especially promising, given the industry's lack of cooperation and trust among its members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked for a major newspaper for over 20 years, and the self-serving &#8220;specialness&#8221; attitude you describe is an overpowering, stifling weight that infuses every conversation, meeting and committee throughout the paper.  Whether it&#8217;s editorial or business matters, &#8220;no one does it like we do&#8221; is the oft-repeated refrain.   </p>
<p>This drives some of us, well, nuts.  We buy and sell a product&#8211;gathering news and ads and putting them into a package that is meant to serve readers and advertisers.   HOW we do that internally is less relevant than the fact that it needs to be done (I&#8217;m a big believer in the notion that a newspaper helps contribute to the community, civics, etc.)  But as you&#8217;ve often said, if we don&#8217;t satisfy and serve these readers and advertisers in our present form, our &#8220;specialness&#8221; won&#8217;t help us survive.   </p>
<p>The ability to figure this out, and fast, is not especially promising, given the industry&#8217;s lack of cooperation and trust among its members.</p>
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		<title>By: blackrimglasses.com &#187; BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» Canâ€™t we all get along?</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackrimglasses.com &#187; BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» Canâ€™t we all get along?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or rather, &lt;a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/03/29/nwsp_dwn.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this &lt;/a&gt; Rosen link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or rather, <a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/03/29/nwsp_dwn.html" rel="nofollow">this </a> Rosen link.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 15:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tolman:
Or the fear is that a private equity firm would bleed it try... or would not buy in the first place once they realize that newspapers can only shrink. 
(Click on the Rosen link above.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tolman:<br />
Or the fear is that a private equity firm would bleed it try&#8230; or would not buy in the first place once they realize that newspapers can only shrink.<br />
(Click on the Rosen link above.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tolman Geffs</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/03/cant-we-all-get-along/#comment-16369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tolman Geffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - So here's a question. When one of the largest newspaper chains - Knight Ridder - is bouhgt out by private equity shops, will that improve or degrade their clarity on fixing some of this.  It certainly is not "too late" - whil evalue has eroded, the newspapers still have hefty audiences, brands and cash.  A cashflow-oriented owner will probably be less fun for the newsrooms, at least at first, but will they punch down some of the "special" walls in order to make their bet work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff - So here&#8217;s a question. When one of the largest newspaper chains - Knight Ridder - is bouhgt out by private equity shops, will that improve or degrade their clarity on fixing some of this.  It certainly is not &#8220;too late&#8221; - whil evalue has eroded, the newspapers still have hefty audiences, brands and cash.  A cashflow-oriented owner will probably be less fun for the newsrooms, at least at first, but will they punch down some of the &#8220;special&#8221; walls in order to make their bet work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently completed a Harris survey from the Wall Street Journal.  I gather the WSJ is looking to provide access/archives from all major newspapers and other non-web published sources (newsletters, industry perodicals).  From the survey, it appeared they were contemplating charging $199 for up to 400 articles a year.

I would certainly consider paying $199/year if and when the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, Daily Telegraph, Newsweek, Christian Science Monitor also started placing their content behind a paid subscription.  (I'd sign on just to get access to the Financial Times, assuming it was included.  Currently, my employer pays for the WSJ.)

My fear is that many households in this country and certainly many households in developing countries cannot afford to access paid content.  This would be a shame.  I think the worlds stands gain if a Venezuelan can read an article on what went dreadfully wrong in Zimbabwe's land reform or what went right in Malaysia's refusal to follow orthodox IMF remedies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently completed a Harris survey from the Wall Street Journal.  I gather the WSJ is looking to provide access/archives from all major newspapers and other non-web published sources (newsletters, industry perodicals).  From the survey, it appeared they were contemplating charging $199 for up to 400 articles a year.</p>
<p>I would certainly consider paying $199/year if and when the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, Daily Telegraph, Newsweek, Christian Science Monitor also started placing their content behind a paid subscription.  (I&#8217;d sign on just to get access to the Financial Times, assuming it was included.  Currently, my employer pays for the WSJ.)</p>
<p>My fear is that many households in this country and certainly many households in developing countries cannot afford to access paid content.  This would be a shame.  I think the worlds stands gain if a Venezuelan can read an article on what went dreadfully wrong in Zimbabwe&#8217;s land reform or what went right in Malaysia&#8217;s refusal to follow orthodox IMF remedies.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There ought to be open source standards for information exchange in the traditional print media. The standards should not be driven by hobbyists (i.e. RSS) but by the industries themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There ought to be open source standards for information exchange in the traditional print media. The standards should not be driven by hobbyists (i.e. RSS) but by the industries themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Arellanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Arellanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that newspapers think they're &lt;i&gt;special&lt;/i&gt; is still leading to technological debacles. Our project aims to address a lot of those problems by creating a free and open-source set of tools for media companieswww.campware.org, but it's an uphill battle getting big boss-types to see past their blinders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that newspapers think they&#8217;re <i>special</i> is still leading to technological debacles. Our project aims to address a lot of those problems by creating a free and open-source set of tools for media companieswww.campware.org, but it&#8217;s an uphill battle getting big boss-types to see past their blinders.</p>
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