Comments on: Fast Company dialogue: Is print dead? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:34:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: S.P. Gass http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-369555 S.P. Gass Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:04:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-369555 Print is dead is hyperbole. People will continue to read real books and magazines. For more, if you're interested, here's my blog entry on why print is not dead: http://lowtechtimes.com/2008/02/21/print-is-not-dead/ Print is dead is hyperbole. People will continue to read real books and magazines. For more, if you’re interested, here’s my blog entry on why print is not dead: http://lowtechtimes.com/2008/02/21/print-is-not-dead/

]]> By: Maria http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-363773 Maria Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:28:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-363773 I am one of those ardent booklovers who refuse to give up reading and buying bound, printed volumes. I will never buy something like Amazon's Kindle, for example. While I'm all for progress, I don't believe that a cold computer screen can possibly compete with the beauty and craftsmanship of a printed book. I certainly hope that these amazing, wonderful objects will NEVER go the way of the dinosaur! Just becaue the tekkies out there (and, by the way, I am a hard-core Trekkie) will purchase these machines, those of us who truly appreciate the book as we have so far known it will continue to shell out our hard-earned cash in order to own the ones we covet. I simply cannot imagine a world in which I would not be able to walk either into a bookstore or library, and see shelf upon shelf of those glorious objects! By the way, the very fact that I am commenting on a laptop means that I am not totally averse to technology. I just don't want that technology to take away the immense pleasure I get from a real, honest-to-goodness book! I am one of those ardent booklovers who refuse to give up reading and buying bound, printed volumes. I will never buy something like Amazon’s Kindle, for example. While I’m all for progress, I don’t believe that a cold computer screen can possibly compete with the beauty and craftsmanship of a printed book.

I certainly hope that these amazing, wonderful objects will NEVER go the way of the dinosaur! Just becaue the tekkies out there (and, by the way, I am a hard-core Trekkie) will purchase these machines, those of us who truly appreciate the book as we have so far known it will continue to shell out our hard-earned cash in order to own the ones we covet.

I simply cannot imagine a world in which I would not be able to walk either into a bookstore or library, and see shelf upon shelf of those glorious objects!

By the way, the very fact that I am commenting on a laptop means that I am not totally averse to technology. I just don’t want that technology to take away the immense pleasure I get from a real, honest-to-goodness book!

]]> By: Eoin Purcell’s Blog » Blog Archive » The death of the book (Everything seems to be dying these days) http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-55722 Eoin Purcell’s Blog » Blog Archive » The death of the book (Everything seems to be dying these days) Fri, 26 May 2006 14:34:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-55722 [...] Curiously I neglected to comment on a post by Jeff Jarvis a few days past on the end of the book as we know it. You really should read it and to do so click here. Just for some flavour here is a clip: The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...] [...] Curiously I neglected to comment on a post by Jeff Jarvis a few days past on the end of the book as we know it. You really should read it and to do so click here. Just for some flavour here is a clip: The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...]

]]> By: infotainment rules :: a long overdue conversation about books http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-50498 infotainment rules :: a long overdue conversation about books Sat, 20 May 2006 19:30:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-50498 [...] for starting the needed conversation: The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...] [...] for starting the needed conversation: The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...]

]]> By: It looks obvious » Blog Archive » Why do I have to choose? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-49772 It looks obvious » Blog Archive » Why do I have to choose? Fri, 19 May 2006 15:32:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-49772 [...] I love books. I love the paper old fashion – books in a way that I’ll never love my computer screen.  I love the smell of books, I love to hold them and I love to brows my shelves looking for one. There are many disadvantages for the old fashion books, as Jeff Jarvis describes : The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. But are the words of Shakespeare dead because they are printed? I would suggest that not only the words but Shakespeare himself rich eternity because of the print. I always believed that the technology and the internet in particular, are about open options not closing them. Why should I give up all that good in books only because we discover a technology that overcomes some of the disadvantages? Why should I have to make a decision between the old and the new? Was theater doomed to disappear when movies made their debut? Is their no value in riding a bicycle when we drive a car?    I would not want to live in a world without books, the one made from paper, and I’m guessing that Jeff Jarvis wouldn’t want that too.     books, New Media, Technology [...] [...] I love books. I love the paper old fashion – books in a way that I’ll never love my computer screen.  I love the smell of books, I love to hold them and I love to brows my shelves looking for one. There are many disadvantages for the old fashion books, as Jeff Jarvis describes : The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. But are the words of Shakespeare dead because they are printed? I would suggest that not only the words but Shakespeare himself rich eternity because of the print. I always believed that the technology and the internet in particular, are about open options not closing them. Why should I give up all that good in books only because we discover a technology that overcomes some of the disadvantages? Why should I have to make a decision between the old and the new? Was theater doomed to disappear when movies made their debut? Is their no value in riding a bicycle when we drive a car?    I would not want to live in a world without books, the one made from paper, and I’m guessing that Jeff Jarvis wouldn’t want that too.     books, New Media, Technology [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The book is dead. Long live the book. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-49706 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The book is dead. Long live the book. Fri, 19 May 2006 13:55:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-49706 [...] The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...] [...] The problems with books are many: They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. [...]

]]> By: Stan Hustad http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-17289 Stan Hustad Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:44:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-17289 Hi Jeff - Well how can we get the rest of the dead tree debate on print? I would like to see it. I am presently writing and then producing a non dead CD/Podcast entitled Dead tree marketing is dead ... You see it is the age of performance marketing. If you want to know my definition of marketing please ask. but for now how can we get the rest of the debate the FC link did not work! all the best Stan Hustad Hi Jeff - Well how can we get the rest of the dead tree debate on print? I would like to see it. I am presently writing and then producing a non dead CD/Podcast entitled Dead tree marketing is dead … You see it is the age of performance marketing. If you want to know my definition of marketing please ask. but for now how can we get the rest of the debate the FC link did not work!

all the best

Stan Hustad

]]> By: John R. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-17284 John R. Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:17:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-17284 You try humor with the crossed out "bum homeless person" phrase? What a sad way to attempt to grab a laugh. The only humor in it is your use of the politically correct "person." You try humor with the crossed out “bum homeless person” phrase? What a sad way to attempt to grab a laugh. The only humor in it is your use of the politically correct “person.”

]]> By: Don McArthur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-17274 Don McArthur Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:16:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-17274 "...like a bum homeless person street entrepreneur recycles cans..." I prefer "Urban Outdoorsman," thank you. “…like a bum homeless person street entrepreneur recycles cans…”

I prefer “Urban Outdoorsman,” thank you.

]]> By: Gerard http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-17244 Gerard Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:01:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-17244 Just in case you Google the above topic and see links to sites that you may not trust, please realize that there have been hearings in Congress about this threat. Deeper into Google you'll find the meatier links. Like this one from the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57774-2005Apr15.html Yes, keep that pen and paper handy. - Just in case you Google the above topic and see links to sites that you may not trust, please realize that there have been hearings in Congress about this threat. Deeper into Google you’ll find the meatier links. Like this one from the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57774-2005Apr15.html
Yes, keep that pen and paper handy.

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]]> By: Gerard http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/07/fast-company-dialogue-is-print-dead/#comment-17243 Gerard Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:54:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=859#comment-17243 Print dead? Let's hope not! Few people realize the ability to wipe out ALL electronics (data and chips/hardware) exists <i>right now.</i> It's the great unspoken. Congressman Bartlett of Maryland says that we MUST discuss it, and to not discuss it, for fear of causing a panic, <i>could be our demise</i>. No conspiracy stuff here. This is the real deal that few know a thing about. <i>We could be sent back to pen and paper in an instant.</i> Don't believe me? Just Google <strong> - electromagnetic pulse terrorism - </strong>. Pay special attention to the link to remarks from Representative Bartlett in June on the floor of Congress. Yes, it's long, but it will shake you up and realize that pen, pencils and paper <i>better</i> be here for a long, long time --- as a matter of national security. Print dead? Let’s hope not! Few people realize the ability to wipe out ALL electronics (data and chips/hardware) exists right now. It’s the great unspoken. Congressman Bartlett of Maryland says that we MUST discuss it, and to not discuss it, for fear of causing a panic, could be our demise. No conspiracy stuff here. This is the real deal that few know a thing about. We could be sent back to pen and paper in an instant. Don’t believe me? Just Google - electromagnetic pulse terrorism - . Pay special attention to the link to remarks from Representative Bartlett in June on the floor of Congress. Yes, it’s long, but it will shake you up and realize that pen, pencils and paper better be here for a long, long time — as a matter of national security.

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