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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Lakeisha Pivin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-440352</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakeisha Pivin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a preference for boxers made of 100 % cotton for everyday business living and at home. Then again sometimes I decide hot nighty, but absolutely favor organic and natural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a preference for boxers made of 100 % cotton for everyday business living and at home. Then again sometimes I decide hot nighty, but absolutely favor organic and natural.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-385184</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, sometimes it is interesting to look at someones &quot;underwear&quot;, but when it is about you it is not so pleasant)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, sometimes it is interesting to look at someones &#8220;underwear&#8221;, but when it is about you it is not so pleasant)</p>
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		<title>By: Brad DeLong</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18568</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, henceforth I&#039;m going to call it &quot;Dan Froomkin&#039;s &#039;Cooking with Walnuts&#039;&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, henceforth I&#8217;m going to call it &#8220;Dan Froomkin&#8217;s &#8216;Cooking with Walnuts&#8217;&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18557</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just wow.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanDownunder</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18512</link>
		<dc:creator>AlanDownunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it&#039;s an internecine WP turf war, but the aggressors&#039; ammo was ideological -  supplied by the White House and launched by its dupes or supporters at WP (or perhaps in Ms Howell&#039;s case by an agent provocateur)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it&#8217;s an internecine WP turf war, but the aggressors&#8217; ammo was ideological &#8211;  supplied by the White House and launched by its dupes or supporters at WP (or perhaps in Ms Howell&#8217;s case by an agent provocateur)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would it be OK if it said &quot;White House Rant&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would it be OK if it said &#8220;White House Rant&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18449</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected, I did not see the &quot;columnist&quot; title next to his name (so faint, that), have frankly never noticed it even though I&#039;m a regular reader, and didn&#039;t bother to look at the directory structure (I never do) on the site to see I was in the columns section. After all, I had clicked through to Froomkin from the politics page and assumed I was still there. 

All that said, my view remains unchanged. I think the paper and it&#039;s readers would be served better with a more descriptive, accurate, less reportorial sounding name. It&#039;s a reasonably small issue in the end, I&#039;ll leave it at that. Also, full disclosure: I like Froomkin&#039;s column, read it regularly, and glad no one is arguing it should go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected, I did not see the &#8220;columnist&#8221; title next to his name (so faint, that), have frankly never noticed it even though I&#8217;m a regular reader, and didn&#8217;t bother to look at the directory structure (I never do) on the site to see I was in the columns section. After all, I had clicked through to Froomkin from the politics page and assumed I was still there. </p>
<p>All that said, my view remains unchanged. I think the paper and it&#8217;s readers would be served better with a more descriptive, accurate, less reportorial sounding name. It&#8217;s a reasonably small issue in the end, I&#8217;ll leave it at that. Also, full disclosure: I like Froomkin&#8217;s column, read it regularly, and glad no one is arguing it should go.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Brady at my blog: &quot;We have not really discussed the name in any depth, either internally or with the paper. As I said before, Iâ€™m willing to have a discussion about it with the newspaper. But I donâ€™t know where weâ€™ll come out. The issue is not what the title doesnâ€™t reflect, itâ€™s more the confusion thatâ€™s caused by use of the words &#039;White House.&#039; But itâ€™s too early to tell where weâ€™ll come out.&quot;

Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White House Briefing&lt;/a&gt;.  It says at the top, &lt;b&gt;White House Briefing Dan Froomkin, Columnist&lt;/b&gt; (with his picture).  Slightly above that to the left it says &lt;b&gt;washingtonpost.com Columns&lt;/b&gt;  and you say it&#039;s not labeled a column?  My word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Brady at my blog: &#8220;We have not really discussed the name in any depth, either internally or with the paper. As I said before, Iâ€™m willing to have a discussion about it with the newspaper. But I donâ€™t know where weâ€™ll come out. The issue is not what the title doesnâ€™t reflect, itâ€™s more the confusion thatâ€™s caused by use of the words &#8216;White House.&#8217; But itâ€™s too early to tell where weâ€™ll come out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html" rel="nofollow">White House Briefing</a>.  It says at the top, <b>White House Briefing Dan Froomkin, Columnist</b> (with his picture).  Slightly above that to the left it says <b>washingtonpost.com Columns</b>  and you say it&#8217;s not labeled a column?  My word.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18437</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, be more precise. The title of Froomkin&#039;s column is &quot;White House Briefing.&quot; It&#039;s not labeled a column. It is in the Politics section, not just the Opinion section. Some days its promoted on the front page. 

You&#039;re right, it does have his picture. 

It says this:

&quot;Dan Froomkin&#039;s White House Briefing, a review of media coverage about the president and his staff, appears weekdays.&quot;

I think it&#039;s the combination of &quot;White House&quot; and &quot;Briefing&quot; that misleads. &quot;Briefing&quot; doesn&#039;t mean &quot;opinion&quot; or &quot;column&quot; or &quot;commentary.&quot; It connotes factual instruction or recital. Note that nearly all of the other columns on the WaPo political page are labeled as such (only Kurtz&#039;s isn&#039;t).

Also, couldn&#039;t find anywhere where Harris was demanding the words &quot;White House&quot; come out. I bet they&#039;d be fine if it was called &quot;White House BS Detector&quot; or &quot;White House TruthMeter&quot; or &quot;White House Daily Column&quot; or &quot;White House Sketch.&quot; Or, I bet they&#039;d be fine with &quot;Froomkin&#039;s Briefing&quot; -- that sounds like a personal view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, be more precise. The title of Froomkin&#8217;s column is &#8220;White House Briefing.&#8221; It&#8217;s not labeled a column. It is in the Politics section, not just the Opinion section. Some days its promoted on the front page. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, it does have his picture. </p>
<p>It says this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dan Froomkin&#8217;s White House Briefing, a review of media coverage about the president and his staff, appears weekdays.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s the combination of &#8220;White House&#8221; and &#8220;Briefing&#8221; that misleads. &#8220;Briefing&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;opinion&#8221; or &#8220;column&#8221; or &#8220;commentary.&#8221; It connotes factual instruction or recital. Note that nearly all of the other columns on the WaPo political page are labeled as such (only Kurtz&#8217;s isn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>Also, couldn&#8217;t find anywhere where Harris was demanding the words &#8220;White House&#8221; come out. I bet they&#8217;d be fine if it was called &#8220;White House BS Detector&#8221; or &#8220;White House TruthMeter&#8221; or &#8220;White House Daily Column&#8221; or &#8220;White House Sketch.&#8221; Or, I bet they&#8217;d be fine with &#8220;Froomkin&#8217;s Briefing&#8221; &#8212; that sounds like a personal view.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labeled as if it is reporting?  It&#039;s called a &quot;column,&quot; it has his picture on it, instead of saying under his byline, &quot;Washington Post Staff Writer,&quot; as it does for reporters like Dan Balz it says, &quot;special to the Washington Post,&quot; and it is found in the site&#039;s opinion section.  To access it off the home page you go to the lower left and look under Opinions.

Still say it&#039;s labeled as if it&#039;s reporting?

They want the words &quot;White House&quot; taken out.  That is the newsroom&#039;s demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labeled as if it is reporting?  It&#8217;s called a &#8220;column,&#8221; it has his picture on it, instead of saying under his byline, &#8220;Washington Post Staff Writer,&#8221; as it does for reporters like Dan Balz it says, &#8220;special to the Washington Post,&#8221; and it is found in the site&#8217;s opinion section.  To access it off the home page you go to the lower left and look under Opinions.</p>
<p>Still say it&#8217;s labeled as if it&#8217;s reporting?</p>
<p>They want the words &#8220;White House&#8221; taken out.  That is the newsroom&#8217;s demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18421</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just read through all of this crap -- your site, the E&amp;P stuff, Rosen&#039;s site -- and it seems to me people have lost the plot and the point. All Harris was saying was that Froomkin&#039;s article is opinion, is labeled as if it is reporting, and that should be changed. That so wrong? Seems smart to me.

Also, think you miss the real issue here. It&#039;s not a fizzure between the online and print worlds (I know, that fits your worldview so much better) but a battle between a bunch of beat reporters and &quot;upstart&quot; online writers and bloggers. 

The beat reporters spend their days trying to wrangle info out of their wretched sources, and write under deadline. Many of them have been at it a long time, it&#039;s hard work, they feel like they&#039;ve paid their dues, and are pissed guys like Froomkin (and bloggers like Kos and Marshall) haven&#039;t. And let&#039;s be honest -- it&#039;s a hell of a lot less work to sit there and spout off and be entertaining than to report. So I confess I have a little sympathy with their point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read through all of this crap &#8212; your site, the E&amp;P stuff, Rosen&#8217;s site &#8212; and it seems to me people have lost the plot and the point. All Harris was saying was that Froomkin&#8217;s article is opinion, is labeled as if it is reporting, and that should be changed. That so wrong? Seems smart to me.</p>
<p>Also, think you miss the real issue here. It&#8217;s not a fizzure between the online and print worlds (I know, that fits your worldview so much better) but a battle between a bunch of beat reporters and &#8220;upstart&#8221; online writers and bloggers. </p>
<p>The beat reporters spend their days trying to wrangle info out of their wretched sources, and write under deadline. Many of them have been at it a long time, it&#8217;s hard work, they feel like they&#8217;ve paid their dues, and are pissed guys like Froomkin (and bloggers like Kos and Marshall) haven&#8217;t. And let&#8217;s be honest &#8212; it&#8217;s a hell of a lot less work to sit there and spout off and be entertaining than to report. So I confess I have a little sympathy with their point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18420</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just what is wrong with having a liberal bias in an openly slanted opinion piece?  This is what Harris is saying, and it&#039;s no wonder that he&#039;s being kicked around the newsroom

Does Harris really think he can forget the other side, that if Froomkin is not allowed, then Drudge, O&#039;Reilly, Novak are going to have to be &#039;fair and balanced&#039;?  Or that there isn&#039;t any audience for slanted news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just what is wrong with having a liberal bias in an openly slanted opinion piece?  This is what Harris is saying, and it&#8217;s no wonder that he&#8217;s being kicked around the newsroom</p>
<p>Does Harris really think he can forget the other side, that if Froomkin is not allowed, then Drudge, O&#8217;Reilly, Novak are going to have to be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217;?  Or that there isn&#8217;t any audience for slanted news?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a coincidence! Froomkin Kerfluffle is playing the Paladium tonight! Doors open at 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence! Froomkin Kerfluffle is playing the Paladium tonight! Doors open at 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Harris in a live Post.com chat (going on now)

&lt;blockquote&gt;For all its interesting and useful features, some things I don&#039;t like about the on-line crankosphere are its frequent humorlessness and tendency to blow issues way out of proportion.

After I popped off on some of these issues, some colleagues gently suggested I might be flirting with these traits myself. (They are liars and no longer my friends.) &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Harris in a live Post.com chat (going on now)</p>
<blockquote><p>For all its interesting and useful features, some things I don&#8217;t like about the on-line crankosphere are its frequent humorlessness and tendency to blow issues way out of proportion.</p>
<p>After I popped off on some of these issues, some colleagues gently suggested I might be flirting with these traits myself. (They are liars and no longer my friends.) </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: PSGInfinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSGInfinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EB,

tsuÂ·ris also tzuÂ·ris Pronunciation (tsrs, tsÃ»r-)
n. Informal
Trouble; aggravation.
[Yiddish tsores, pl. of tsure, from Hebrew rÃ¢, from rar, to become narrow; see rr in Semitic roots.]

source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com, via Firefox plugin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EB,</p>
<p>tsuÂ·ris also tzuÂ·ris Pronunciation (tsrs, tsÃ»r-)<br />
n. Informal<br />
Trouble; aggravation.<br />
[Yiddish tsores, pl. of tsure, from Hebrew rÃ¢, from rar, to become narrow; see rr in Semitic roots.]</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com</a>, via Firefox plugin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angelos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Washington Post has handed editorial control to Karl Rove.

This is news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Washington Post has handed editorial control to Karl Rove.</p>
<p>This is news?</p>
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		<title>By: EB</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2005/12/15/the-emperors-new-underwear/#comment-18413</link>
		<dc:creator>EB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does &quot;tsuris&quot; mean? 
Is it like agnst? 
(I know that it is Yiddish, but I need a glossary or something.)   
:^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8220;tsuris&#8221; mean?<br />
Is it like agnst?<br />
(I know that it is Yiddish, but I need a glossary or something.)<br />
:^)</p>
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