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		<title>By: Media and Bloggers Assess Mine-Rescue Coverage &#124; Dallas Public Relations Idea Grove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Media and Bloggers Assess Mine-Rescue Coverage &#124; Dallas Public Relations Idea Grove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: derek rose</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-24216</link>
		<dc:creator>derek rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there in Sago ... a couple points. Jess, there were no &quot;company &amp; safety officers on site&quot; to contact. They were all down at the mine, and there was state police troopers between us and them. (That&#039;s such an obvious thing to try and do, do you think we are all stupid?)

None of us ever imagined that what the families had been told wasn&#039;t the truth, that fate could be so cruel. Maybe we should have, but I don&#039;t think any of us on the scene did. We were all exhausted and muddy and caught up in that joyful celebration.

I wrote more about this &lt;a href=&quot;http://derekrose.com/wp/?p=784&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there in Sago &#8230; a couple points. Jess, there were no &#8220;company &amp; safety officers on site&#8221; to contact. They were all down at the mine, and there was state police troopers between us and them. (That&#8217;s such an obvious thing to try and do, do you think we are all stupid?)</p>
<p>None of us ever imagined that what the families had been told wasn&#8217;t the truth, that fate could be so cruel. Maybe we should have, but I don&#8217;t think any of us on the scene did. We were all exhausted and muddy and caught up in that joyful celebration.</p>
<p>I wrote more about this <a href="http://derekrose.com/wp/?p=784" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Beth B</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23629</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you continue to watch CNN and Fox and why do you read the headlines in the newspapers so much if you think they are all doing such a bad job? Cut off your tvs, don&#039;t read any newspapers and walk around uninformed about everything.  It was reported and repeated and printed and everybody heard it, saw and I recorded it and I&#039;ll make you all a tape and send it to you, a foreman from the mine made two cell phone calls to his wife and to a friend inside the church and that did it. The media did their best and they did state over and over and over, we are trying to verify what we are being told and Catherine and Beth both tried to make you understand but you all pretty much have made up your minds that they don&#039;t have real &quot;journalist&quot;.  So if you are so much better at it, go do it yourselves. They have openings, go apply and be perfect as you say you are. If you don&#039;t like the media, then like I said before, stay uninformed and walk around as if nothing is happening in the world and maybe then you&#039;ll be happy.  What are watching Anderson Cooper for if you think he&#039;s not caring enough? Make up your mind but I&#039;ve got the tape to prove who started it and I work in public safety and I&#039;ve seen it happen.  People just want to talk about somebody or be the first to know some important piece of information and that&#039;s exactly what happened.  The media didn&#039;t have a thing to do with it.  And the poor media got treated terrible when they got the truth.  Like it was all their fault that they didn&#039;t survive.  The media stepped aside and left them alone and all those people did was make themselves look like a bunch of rednecks on national tv.  I have it on tape where one woman who lost her father was more concerned about giving them all the correct spelling of her name than grieving for her father.  Then the next time when a disaster happens and the media is not there, everybody is going to be mad about that. Nobody is happy no matter what you do, they just want to gripe and yell and point their fingers and make sure somebody sees them do it.  Be considerate of others and others will be considerate of you no matter what job you do or where you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you continue to watch CNN and Fox and why do you read the headlines in the newspapers so much if you think they are all doing such a bad job? Cut off your tvs, don&#8217;t read any newspapers and walk around uninformed about everything.  It was reported and repeated and printed and everybody heard it, saw and I recorded it and I&#8217;ll make you all a tape and send it to you, a foreman from the mine made two cell phone calls to his wife and to a friend inside the church and that did it. The media did their best and they did state over and over and over, we are trying to verify what we are being told and Catherine and Beth both tried to make you understand but you all pretty much have made up your minds that they don&#8217;t have real &#8220;journalist&#8221;.  So if you are so much better at it, go do it yourselves. They have openings, go apply and be perfect as you say you are. If you don&#8217;t like the media, then like I said before, stay uninformed and walk around as if nothing is happening in the world and maybe then you&#8217;ll be happy.  What are watching Anderson Cooper for if you think he&#8217;s not caring enough? Make up your mind but I&#8217;ve got the tape to prove who started it and I work in public safety and I&#8217;ve seen it happen.  People just want to talk about somebody or be the first to know some important piece of information and that&#8217;s exactly what happened.  The media didn&#8217;t have a thing to do with it.  And the poor media got treated terrible when they got the truth.  Like it was all their fault that they didn&#8217;t survive.  The media stepped aside and left them alone and all those people did was make themselves look like a bunch of rednecks on national tv.  I have it on tape where one woman who lost her father was more concerned about giving them all the correct spelling of her name than grieving for her father.  Then the next time when a disaster happens and the media is not there, everybody is going to be mad about that. Nobody is happy no matter what you do, they just want to gripe and yell and point their fingers and make sure somebody sees them do it.  Be considerate of others and others will be considerate of you no matter what job you do or where you do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seanne Prine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23626</link>
		<dc:creator>Seanne Prine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is really the problem with what happened with all the news media reporters &quot;on the scene&quot; at the church was that they had allowed the storyline of the miners rescue to turn out to be a blow by blow account with little regard for the familiies or friends of these miners, first.  Its as if everyone may have meant well, and I&#039;m sure that many in Tallsville were somewhat grateful that news was going worldwide about a tradgedy that should have been prevented, but the media seemed to make a &quot;circus&quot; out of the personal part of the people in the church, and taking advantage of the terrible emotions involved without a real clue as to just how deadly serious this accident was, and the possibilities of how bad the outcome was going to be in reality because of the slim chances ogf rescue.  The news people just let professional miners tell their own information as how difficult it is, and how many miners don&#039;t ever come out alive or uninjured, without really listening or taking this seriously.  The news media should have taken other people&#039;s advice who are, and have been, in the buisness of mining, rather than trying to make it a &quot;we have gotten the story straight&quot; attitude and depended on the Reality Show, or Reader&#039;s Digest &quot;You just won a million dollars&quot; approach, which they obviosly did.  The past mining accidents, such as the one in West Virginia in 1968 should have put some sense in the news reporters heads that the story is not about them, but the people of whom the story is about.  All they had to do was to make a proefessional distance in that they should have taken these distraught people from the church aside before they reached the cameras and spoken reasonably to them, but that was probably wishful thinking on the part of many of the news people because of the &quot;get that story, no matter what&quot; garbage that is so overused.  Its like every story is reported exactly the same, perhaps because many stories of violence and war give them no time to think much of the time, so many reporters get blindsided a lot of the time. I live in mining country out here in Wyoming and I heard a story or two from some men long retired from mining, just the other day hwere they descrubed the horrors of &quot;just surviving&quot; out of the mines.  Perhaps the reporters and managers and directors of the news media should have taken all of these stories a little more closely to the heart in a manner as if it had happened to their own people, rather than leaning on the side of a live exciting storyline adding to the emotional cost of Tallsville.  When you brush your teeth first thing in the morning and start your car up to go to work, people should know that the plastic toothbrush and the tube of toothpaste, and the car oil, among all the other daily products we use including polyester material, all come straight from coal and the hard working men who work the mines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is really the problem with what happened with all the news media reporters &#8220;on the scene&#8221; at the church was that they had allowed the storyline of the miners rescue to turn out to be a blow by blow account with little regard for the familiies or friends of these miners, first.  Its as if everyone may have meant well, and I&#8217;m sure that many in Tallsville were somewhat grateful that news was going worldwide about a tradgedy that should have been prevented, but the media seemed to make a &#8220;circus&#8221; out of the personal part of the people in the church, and taking advantage of the terrible emotions involved without a real clue as to just how deadly serious this accident was, and the possibilities of how bad the outcome was going to be in reality because of the slim chances ogf rescue.  The news people just let professional miners tell their own information as how difficult it is, and how many miners don&#8217;t ever come out alive or uninjured, without really listening or taking this seriously.  The news media should have taken other people&#8217;s advice who are, and have been, in the buisness of mining, rather than trying to make it a &#8220;we have gotten the story straight&#8221; attitude and depended on the Reality Show, or Reader&#8217;s Digest &#8220;You just won a million dollars&#8221; approach, which they obviosly did.  The past mining accidents, such as the one in West Virginia in 1968 should have put some sense in the news reporters heads that the story is not about them, but the people of whom the story is about.  All they had to do was to make a proefessional distance in that they should have taken these distraught people from the church aside before they reached the cameras and spoken reasonably to them, but that was probably wishful thinking on the part of many of the news people because of the &#8220;get that story, no matter what&#8221; garbage that is so overused.  Its like every story is reported exactly the same, perhaps because many stories of violence and war give them no time to think much of the time, so many reporters get blindsided a lot of the time. I live in mining country out here in Wyoming and I heard a story or two from some men long retired from mining, just the other day hwere they descrubed the horrors of &#8220;just surviving&#8221; out of the mines.  Perhaps the reporters and managers and directors of the news media should have taken all of these stories a little more closely to the heart in a manner as if it had happened to their own people, rather than leaning on the side of a live exciting storyline adding to the emotional cost of Tallsville.  When you brush your teeth first thing in the morning and start your car up to go to work, people should know that the plastic toothbrush and the tube of toothpaste, and the car oil, among all the other daily products we use including polyester material, all come straight from coal and the hard working men who work the mines.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23621</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that no one is asking a key questionâ€¦..Who was responsible for the report of â€œ12 ALIVEâ€ leaving the command center. I was watching CNN that night, as were millions of others. At 11:49 est an out of breath person ran up to Anderson Cooper and told the world that 12 were aliveâ€¦..within a minute, the church bells started ringingâ€¦..I think that was the source of the misinformation leaving the command center before verification, and I think CNN needs to accept that by reporting liveâ€¦.in the quest to be the first to report an event, they are indirectly responsible for the fiasco that followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that no one is asking a key questionâ€¦..Who was responsible for the report of â€œ12 ALIVEâ€ leaving the command center. I was watching CNN that night, as were millions of others. At 11:49 est an out of breath person ran up to Anderson Cooper and told the world that 12 were aliveâ€¦..within a minute, the church bells started ringingâ€¦..I think that was the source of the misinformation leaving the command center before verification, and I think CNN needs to accept that by reporting liveâ€¦.in the quest to be the first to report an event, they are indirectly responsible for the fiasco that followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley Osborn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23497</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirley Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, am grateful for the advance of live coverage, as opposed to the typical &quot;manipulative&quot; journalism which I am accustomed to.  Thank you CNN for your fearlessness in covering the W.V. mining story.  I see no &quot;error&quot;, I see life unfolding, a process which is rarely, if ever, perfectly &quot;packaged&quot;.  Shirley Osborn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, am grateful for the advance of live coverage, as opposed to the typical &#8220;manipulative&#8221; journalism which I am accustomed to.  Thank you CNN for your fearlessness in covering the W.V. mining story.  I see no &#8220;error&#8221;, I see life unfolding, a process which is rarely, if ever, perfectly &#8220;packaged&#8221;.  Shirley Osborn</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23493</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too many people know that much about coal mining, including the media. First, i was shocked at how cnn sketched the mine. The sketch was not any where close to how a deep mine is. The worst thing I saw was during the press conference when Ben Hatfield told of the first dead miner and at depth he was found, a reporter asked why didn&#039;t he tell in the last release. There are certain procedures to follow to release this info. First and foremost, it must be confirmed and then tell the family and only the family, not to the media first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too many people know that much about coal mining, including the media. First, i was shocked at how cnn sketched the mine. The sketch was not any where close to how a deep mine is. The worst thing I saw was during the press conference when Ben Hatfield told of the first dead miner and at depth he was found, a reporter asked why didn&#8217;t he tell in the last release. There are certain procedures to follow to release this info. First and foremost, it must be confirmed and then tell the family and only the family, not to the media first!</p>
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		<title>By: Kayla Spitler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kayla Spitler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really believe that it unfolded the way it should have. We can&#039;t blam the media for what they did because they were so involved in the story. I believe that their mistake made but we can&#039;t harp on the past. The only mistake was made by the ICG group and that was making the families believe that their family members were still alive for about three hours (that is too long).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really believe that it unfolded the way it should have. We can&#8217;t blam the media for what they did because they were so involved in the story. I believe that their mistake made but we can&#8217;t harp on the past. The only mistake was made by the ICG group and that was making the families believe that their family members were still alive for about three hours (that is too long).</p>
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		<title>By: Accentuate the Positive, 2.0 &#187; The Blame Game</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23174</link>
		<dc:creator>Accentuate the Positive, 2.0 &#187; The Blame Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been fighting a nasty virus for the last few days, and have missed out on the chance to pipe in on the West Virginia mine tragedy, and the media disaster that followed. So here are a few opinions before I get to my take: The Flack: &#8220;Should we blame the messenger? I don&#8217;t think so.&#8221; Mason Cole: &#8220;In a chaotic situation, it&#8217;s terribly hard to get a good grip on the steering wheel. The more that can be done, though, the better the communications process usually work, and the more everyone affected can have assurance about what they&#8217;re dealing with. &#8221; Kami Watson Huyse: &#8220;Clearly the International Coal Group, the company who ownes the mine, did not have an adequate crisis communications plan.&#8221; Jeri Cartwright: &#8220;If nothing else, this tragic event should remind every CEO and PR person to assign someone to develop a communications crisis plan.&#8221; Scatterbox: &#8220;There is no question that International Coal Group violated every standard of crises management. The companyâ€™s lack of preparedness and incompetence in managing communications both within and outside the unfolding tragedy will unfortunately be studied by PR and management executives for decades to come. But much of that lesson will focus on the increasingly understood possibility that competing news interests will run with miraculous but unconfirmed headlines like a raging herd of snorting, blind buffalo.&#8221; Jeff Jarvis: &#8220;But now, in our age of instant news and ubiquitous communication, the public sees this process as it occurs. Itâ€™s not the news thatâ€™s live; itâ€™s the process of figuring out what to believe thatâ€™s live.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been fighting a nasty virus for the last few days, and have missed out on the chance to pipe in on the West Virginia mine tragedy, and the media disaster that followed. So here are a few opinions before I get to my take: The Flack: &#8220;Should we blame the messenger? I don&#8217;t think so.&#8221; Mason Cole: &#8220;In a chaotic situation, it&#8217;s terribly hard to get a good grip on the steering wheel. The more that can be done, though, the better the communications process usually work, and the more everyone affected can have assurance about what they&#8217;re dealing with. &#8221; Kami Watson Huyse: &#8220;Clearly the International Coal Group, the company who ownes the mine, did not have an adequate crisis communications plan.&#8221; Jeri Cartwright: &#8220;If nothing else, this tragic event should remind every CEO and PR person to assign someone to develop a communications crisis plan.&#8221; Scatterbox: &#8220;There is no question that International Coal Group violated every standard of crises management. The companyâ€™s lack of preparedness and incompetence in managing communications both within and outside the unfolding tragedy will unfortunately be studied by PR and management executives for decades to come. But much of that lesson will focus on the increasingly understood possibility that competing news interests will run with miraculous but unconfirmed headlines like a raging herd of snorting, blind buffalo.&#8221; Jeff Jarvis: &#8220;But now, in our age of instant news and ubiquitous communication, the public sees this process as it occurs. Itâ€™s not the news thatâ€™s live; itâ€™s the process of figuring out what to believe thatâ€™s live.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CaNN :: We started it.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23172</link>
		<dc:creator>CaNN :: We started it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DROPPED THE BALL: One terrible lesson of the West Virginia mine tragedy is that you canâ€™t trust the news. Emotionalism: bad fuel for the press &#8230;. (buzzmachine, theanchoressonline) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DROPPED THE BALL: One terrible lesson of the West Virginia mine tragedy is that you canâ€™t trust the news. Emotionalism: bad fuel for the press &#8230;. (buzzmachine, theanchoressonline) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jody  Tresidder</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-23074</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody  Tresidder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
Couldn&#039;t agree more (Scott Butki&#039;s MSM defence comment above and his linked Blog Critics column is, frankly, a miracle of illogical fluff).

My &quot;there&#039;s a dreadful unfilled hole in this story&quot; moment came slightly earlier. I, sitting in my living room, heard coal company CEO Hatfield explaining - speculatively - that building an emergency &quot;barrier&quot; against dangerous fumes was the miners&#039; likely best/only defence.

His scepticism whether this could be practically possible was obvious. The &quot;miracle&quot; stories simply ignored his painstaking warnings in favor of their worthless scoop. 
Good reporters are MEANT to thoughtfully incorporate significant previous information into fresh &quot;updates&quot;.
They didn&#039;t get the &quot;they&#039;re alive!&quot; reports in a vacuum.
The now justly celebrated response of the local MSM newspaper in NOT going for the sensational angle on its rolling website is proof that avoiding empty foolishness was easily possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
Couldn&#8217;t agree more (Scott Butki&#8217;s MSM defence comment above and his linked Blog Critics column is, frankly, a miracle of illogical fluff).</p>
<p>My &#8220;there&#8217;s a dreadful unfilled hole in this story&#8221; moment came slightly earlier. I, sitting in my living room, heard coal company CEO Hatfield explaining &#8211; speculatively &#8211; that building an emergency &#8220;barrier&#8221; against dangerous fumes was the miners&#8217; likely best/only defence.</p>
<p>His scepticism whether this could be practically possible was obvious. The &#8220;miracle&#8221; stories simply ignored his painstaking warnings in favor of their worthless scoop.<br />
Good reporters are MEANT to thoughtfully incorporate significant previous information into fresh &#8220;updates&#8221;.<br />
They didn&#8217;t get the &#8220;they&#8217;re alive!&#8221; reports in a vacuum.<br />
The now justly celebrated response of the local MSM newspaper in NOT going for the sensational angle on its rolling website is proof that avoiding empty foolishness was easily possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22958</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest problem with the coverage of the miracle that wasn&#039;t isn&#039;t the way that &quot;reporters&quot; (and I use that word loosely) such as Anderson Cooper and Rita Cosby dealt with the inital reports of the miners being found alive, since they really had no other choice. At that point the story WAS that the families had been told by somebody that the miners were alive so Cooper, Cosby, etc had little choice but to cover that. 

However, once that news was out their jobs were to be reporters, a responsibility they clearly abdicated. In their desire to believe what was obviously a feel good story they took everything at face value. Anderson Cooper, Rita Cosby and Geraldo Rivera are as guilty as Judith Miller and Mary Mapes in that they wanted so bad to believe to be true a story they were supposed to be reporting on that they shunned any sense of objectivity and failed to a single question. 

For example, I never saw any of the ask WHO delivered the news to the families? (Apparently, &quot;they&quot; now suffices as a source , something that all those people hauled in front of Fitzgerald&#039;s grand jury should remember to say.) Then, having been told that all 12 miners had been found alive and were doing fine, an ambulance leaves with the first miner taken from the mine and a few minutes later Anderson Cooper tells us that he is unconscious. HELLO??? Couldn&#039;t AC and company figure out that something didn&#039;t add up? The woman that was reporting with him on CNN (her name escapes me right now) admitted, on camera to Cooper in the aftermath, that the even before the annoucement that all but one miner was dead EMS crews were grim faced and the state police wouldn&#039;t even look at the reporters. Considering how an element such as that contrasted with the sense of euphoria among family members at the church, shouldn&#039;t that have been another clue to take another look at things? But instead, we were treated to hard hitting reporting like the tour of the Salvation Army food truck. Was I, sitting in my living room hundreds of miles away, the only person who thought there was a hole in a story that claimed that a dozen people who had been trapped underground for 40+ hours in a cold mine filled with dangerous fumes would be taken to the church to eat before they were taken to a hospital? 

For two days, given the opportunity, AC, RC, and GR had no problem asking hard questions of people like Hatfield or the Governor. Perhaps, if they should have shown a bit of that courage and used those abilities for just two hours early Wednesday morning, they wouldn&#039;t look as foolish as they do right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest problem with the coverage of the miracle that wasn&#8217;t isn&#8217;t the way that &#8220;reporters&#8221; (and I use that word loosely) such as Anderson Cooper and Rita Cosby dealt with the inital reports of the miners being found alive, since they really had no other choice. At that point the story WAS that the families had been told by somebody that the miners were alive so Cooper, Cosby, etc had little choice but to cover that. </p>
<p>However, once that news was out their jobs were to be reporters, a responsibility they clearly abdicated. In their desire to believe what was obviously a feel good story they took everything at face value. Anderson Cooper, Rita Cosby and Geraldo Rivera are as guilty as Judith Miller and Mary Mapes in that they wanted so bad to believe to be true a story they were supposed to be reporting on that they shunned any sense of objectivity and failed to a single question. </p>
<p>For example, I never saw any of the ask WHO delivered the news to the families? (Apparently, &#8220;they&#8221; now suffices as a source , something that all those people hauled in front of Fitzgerald&#8217;s grand jury should remember to say.) Then, having been told that all 12 miners had been found alive and were doing fine, an ambulance leaves with the first miner taken from the mine and a few minutes later Anderson Cooper tells us that he is unconscious. HELLO??? Couldn&#8217;t AC and company figure out that something didn&#8217;t add up? The woman that was reporting with him on CNN (her name escapes me right now) admitted, on camera to Cooper in the aftermath, that the even before the annoucement that all but one miner was dead EMS crews were grim faced and the state police wouldn&#8217;t even look at the reporters. Considering how an element such as that contrasted with the sense of euphoria among family members at the church, shouldn&#8217;t that have been another clue to take another look at things? But instead, we were treated to hard hitting reporting like the tour of the Salvation Army food truck. Was I, sitting in my living room hundreds of miles away, the only person who thought there was a hole in a story that claimed that a dozen people who had been trapped underground for 40+ hours in a cold mine filled with dangerous fumes would be taken to the church to eat before they were taken to a hospital? </p>
<p>For two days, given the opportunity, AC, RC, and GR had no problem asking hard questions of people like Hatfield or the Governor. Perhaps, if they should have shown a bit of that courage and used those abilities for just two hours early Wednesday morning, they wouldn&#8217;t look as foolish as they do right now.</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to like Anderson Cooper before he became so full of himself. Now he thinks he is the story instead of reporting on the story.</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago I was involved in two rescues involving mountaineering fatalities. In both cases the newspapers printed rather sensational stories. I knew the stories were about the rescues I was on, but the facts were so muddled I hardly recognized the stories as being about the rescues. The lesson I learned was that news stories are seldom correct in all details. And if there are fatalities and survivors involved there will be much sensationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I was involved in two rescues involving mountaineering fatalities. In both cases the newspapers printed rather sensational stories. I knew the stories were about the rescues I was on, but the facts were so muddled I hardly recognized the stories as being about the rescues. The lesson I learned was that news stories are seldom correct in all details. And if there are fatalities and survivors involved there will be much sensationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Butki</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22849</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Butki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 01:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/04/220019.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; column for Blog Critics&lt;/a&gt; yesterday predicting - correctly - that the news media would be unfairly blamed for getting this story wrong. 
When given bad info and on deadline it&#039;s hard to see where the reporters could have done different?
Sad to say the blame game is going on anyway.

Oh and did you see, Jeff, I left you a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/12/24/033751.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Christmas present here?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a <a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/04/220019.php" rel="nofollow"> column for Blog Critics</a> yesterday predicting &#8211; correctly &#8211; that the news media would be unfairly blamed for getting this story wrong.<br />
When given bad info and on deadline it&#8217;s hard to see where the reporters could have done different?<br />
Sad to say the blame game is going on anyway.</p>
<p>Oh and did you see, Jeff, I left you a <a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/12/24/033751.php" rel="nofollow"> Christmas present here?</a></p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 00:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred--I don&#039;t know that anyone is perfect.  All I ask for is unbiased, unpartisan, unembellished, facts.  I don&#039;t give a damn about Anderson&#039;s sappy shit or lies such as {The men were taken by ambulances to a nearby hospital for examination.USA Today} You can&#039;t just make up shit and call it NEWS.  If I want fiction I will read a book.  If I want drama, I will see a movie.  But if I want NEWS, I just want facts...the truth...not unverified, unchecked lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred&#8211;I don&#8217;t know that anyone is perfect.  All I ask for is unbiased, unpartisan, unembellished, facts.  I don&#8217;t give a damn about Anderson&#8217;s sappy shit or lies such as {The men were taken by ambulances to a nearby hospital for examination.USA Today} You can&#8217;t just make up shit and call it NEWS.  If I want fiction I will read a book.  If I want drama, I will see a movie.  But if I want NEWS, I just want facts&#8230;the truth&#8230;not unverified, unchecked lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 2 significant parts to this story: First, the media running with unverified data.  (It reminds me a bit of the &quot;WMD lies&quot; meme - the governor ran with what he thought to be the facts).  Connected to that is the media&#039;s mad rush to be first with the news.  You&#039;d&#039;a thought they&#039;d&#039;a learned with &quot;Dewey Defeats Truman&quot;.  We don&#039;t need to know this instant that there&#039;s a tragedy unfolding somewhere (unless it&#039;s going on here).  Wait until the guys come out of the mine, then tell us how it went.

The second part, which most everybody seems to be ignoring, is the sad state of mine operations in West Virginia.  That mine has about a hundred of health and safety violations - so why the heck is it still open?  Compared to the news fiasco, this part is far more significant.  The British navy used to speak of the men who &quot;went down to the sea in ships&quot;; we still have our men who go down to the mines in elevators.  It&#039;s a hard way to make a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 significant parts to this story: First, the media running with unverified data.  (It reminds me a bit of the &#8220;WMD lies&#8221; meme &#8211; the governor ran with what he thought to be the facts).  Connected to that is the media&#8217;s mad rush to be first with the news.  You&#8217;d'a thought they&#8217;d'a learned with &#8220;Dewey Defeats Truman&#8221;.  We don&#8217;t need to know this instant that there&#8217;s a tragedy unfolding somewhere (unless it&#8217;s going on here).  Wait until the guys come out of the mine, then tell us how it went.</p>
<p>The second part, which most everybody seems to be ignoring, is the sad state of mine operations in West Virginia.  That mine has about a hundred of health and safety violations &#8211; so why the heck is it still open?  Compared to the news fiasco, this part is far more significant.  The British navy used to speak of the men who &#8220;went down to the sea in ships&#8221;; we still have our men who go down to the mines in elevators.  It&#8217;s a hard way to make a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franky, I&#039;m not saying that the reporters could have necessarily done much different. Especially true of the TV guys: It&#039;s not as if they could say, &#039;we won&#039;t let you hear those church bells pealing  until we confirm that they are a reliable source.&#039; I&#039;m saying that everyone gets things wrong and that news is a process, not a product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franky, I&#8217;m not saying that the reporters could have necessarily done much different. Especially true of the TV guys: It&#8217;s not as if they could say, &#8216;we won&#8217;t let you hear those church bells pealing  until we confirm that they are a reliable source.&#8217; I&#8217;m saying that everyone gets things wrong and that news is a process, not a product.</p>
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		<title>By: Franky</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22748</link>
		<dc:creator>Franky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One terrible lesson of the West Virginia mine tragedy is that you canâ€™t trust the news. You never could; it has always taken time to see whether stories pan out, to get all the facts, to find out the truth.&quot;

Did you ever write one of these about the WMD&#039;s fiasco?  

And, Jeff, you always proclaim your journalistic credentials, can i ask what you would have done if you were a reporter there outside the mine? When the entire community is dancing and praying in the background, the camera is rolling on you, and the anchor asks what&#039;s happening &quot;No nothing happening here, we&#039;ve got no new updates - just some rumors but i won&#039;t bother you with them&quot;

The news i was listening to (BBC radio 4 Today program) constatly sourced the news to the families themselves. What more could they have done? maybe added a note of caution? perhaps.

This post is as dead-ended as those in the media who point to one dishonest blogger and write off the entire phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One terrible lesson of the West Virginia mine tragedy is that you canâ€™t trust the news. You never could; it has always taken time to see whether stories pan out, to get all the facts, to find out the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you ever write one of these about the WMD&#8217;s fiasco?  </p>
<p>And, Jeff, you always proclaim your journalistic credentials, can i ask what you would have done if you were a reporter there outside the mine? When the entire community is dancing and praying in the background, the camera is rolling on you, and the anchor asks what&#8217;s happening &#8220;No nothing happening here, we&#8217;ve got no new updates &#8211; just some rumors but i won&#8217;t bother you with them&#8221;</p>
<p>The news i was listening to (BBC radio 4 Today program) constatly sourced the news to the families themselves. What more could they have done? maybe added a note of caution? perhaps.</p>
<p>This post is as dead-ended as those in the media who point to one dishonest blogger and write off the entire phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody  Tresidder</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody  Tresidder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSM performed disastrously.

CaptiousNut above called it an &quot;honest mistake&quot;. It wasn&#039;t. It was an ignorant MSM mistake based on ignoring previous intelligence.

I watched CNN carefully before the &quot;alive!&quot; debacle, and it was my strongest non-specialist impression that coal company CEO Hatfield left only the faintest of faint hope for the survival of all or most of the miners. He was, I thought, using the concept of &quot;miracle&quot; correctly - i.e. that their survival would be against all rules of logic in the likely known circumstances, NOT just a desperately desired outcome.

All the &quot;alive!&quot; headlines - whether or not they came with smaller typeface &quot;the families say&quot; caveats - seemed totally disconnected to everything Hatfield had taken pains to explain about probabilities.

The correct screaming interim headline - taking into account the accidental, dreadful misinformation - SHOULD have been &quot;How Could They Be Alive?&quot;.

That would have satisfied the immediate demands for a fresh spin on an &quot;aging&quot; human agony story.

It would also have provided a valid holding angle for the subsequent tragic confirmation of the facts.

This is one of the most disgusting cases of the media inexcusably jumping the gun I can recall.  Scepticism - the best thoughtful tool of all hacks - trumped by a worthless scoop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSM performed disastrously.</p>
<p>CaptiousNut above called it an &#8220;honest mistake&#8221;. It wasn&#8217;t. It was an ignorant MSM mistake based on ignoring previous intelligence.</p>
<p>I watched CNN carefully before the &#8220;alive!&#8221; debacle, and it was my strongest non-specialist impression that coal company CEO Hatfield left only the faintest of faint hope for the survival of all or most of the miners. He was, I thought, using the concept of &#8220;miracle&#8221; correctly &#8211; i.e. that their survival would be against all rules of logic in the likely known circumstances, NOT just a desperately desired outcome.</p>
<p>All the &#8220;alive!&#8221; headlines &#8211; whether or not they came with smaller typeface &#8220;the families say&#8221; caveats &#8211; seemed totally disconnected to everything Hatfield had taken pains to explain about probabilities.</p>
<p>The correct screaming interim headline &#8211; taking into account the accidental, dreadful misinformation &#8211; SHOULD have been &#8220;How Could They Be Alive?&#8221;.</p>
<p>That would have satisfied the immediate demands for a fresh spin on an &#8220;aging&#8221; human agony story.</p>
<p>It would also have provided a valid holding angle for the subsequent tragic confirmation of the facts.</p>
<p>This is one of the most disgusting cases of the media inexcusably jumping the gun I can recall.  Scepticism &#8211; the best thoughtful tool of all hacks &#8211; trumped by a worthless scoop.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22701</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whatâ€™s the reporter to do? Cut the camera? Tell the viewers, â€œoh, the families and the Governor say the miners are alive and are celebrating, but we donâ€™t know if theyâ€™re right about thatâ€ or something to that effect? I watched it all like Catherine did, and if anyone is to â€œblame,â€ itâ€™s ICG for not telling the families and the media for three hours.&quot;

Beth,
To answer your question, YES.  Reporters ARE to inquire as to sources, and MUST report those sources.  If GR,AC &amp; their ilk were to couch their reporting in similar terms, their credibility would be far, far better.

As to the timeline - it seems now that the Co. DID inform, at approx 12:15 ~ 12:30.  Why was the message ignored?  Why did the &quot;on site&quot; media keep up the incorrect story for nearly 3 hours?

For those comments on &quot;it&#039;s about the miners&quot; - no, this discussion isn&#039;t.  This is about the end of the chain of media events.  

Jamie, excellent post, &amp; excellent points.  FWIW, I do &quot;hail&quot; from that area.  The amazingly negative comments about the people living in small towns &amp; small states reveal the true intellect of those posters.  They can be safely  ignored.

J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whatâ€™s the reporter to do? Cut the camera? Tell the viewers, â€œoh, the families and the Governor say the miners are alive and are celebrating, but we donâ€™t know if theyâ€™re right about thatâ€ or something to that effect? I watched it all like Catherine did, and if anyone is to â€œblame,â€ itâ€™s ICG for not telling the families and the media for three hours.&#8221;</p>
<p>Beth,<br />
To answer your question, YES.  Reporters ARE to inquire as to sources, and MUST report those sources.  If GR,AC &amp; their ilk were to couch their reporting in similar terms, their credibility would be far, far better.</p>
<p>As to the timeline &#8211; it seems now that the Co. DID inform, at approx 12:15 ~ 12:30.  Why was the message ignored?  Why did the &#8220;on site&#8221; media keep up the incorrect story for nearly 3 hours?</p>
<p>For those comments on &#8220;it&#8217;s about the miners&#8221; &#8211; no, this discussion isn&#8217;t.  This is about the end of the chain of media events.  </p>
<p>Jamie, excellent post, &amp; excellent points.  FWIW, I do &#8220;hail&#8221; from that area.  The amazingly negative comments about the people living in small towns &amp; small states reveal the true intellect of those posters.  They can be safely  ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBK:

&quot;A bunch of hicks yammering on their cellphones&quot; - my my. Your snoot is showing. These &quot;hicks&quot; were, if I understand the situation correctly, probably mine employees.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[T]he CEO of the mining company [...] said that the erroneous â€œnewsâ€ of 12 survivors was broadcast over some sort of open phone line from the rescue crew to the command station where mine officials and government officials were staged. The CEO made it clear in the press conference that everyone in the room listening in to the speakerphone heard the same thing and then rushed to make cell phone calls and inform the victimsâ€™ families. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Per Catherine, above, at 1:00 PM yesterday. Presumably the mine employees doing the &quot;yammering&quot; were of the same &quot;hick&quot; pedigree as the miners themselves. You of course are not a &quot;hick&quot; - just terribly insensitive on this point. Way to take the opportunity to use tragedy to further your elevated sense of social status.

Twelve people &lt;i&gt;died&lt;/i&gt;. They were in West Virginia, which I&#039;m guessing is very different from the place you hail from. Their lives were exactly as unlikely and precious as your own and mine, their loved ones will miss them as much as your loved ones would miss you, and the &quot;hicks yammering&quot; a very overly optimistic inference to those loved ones believed that they were alleviating pain rather than ultimately causing more of it. We all should take a lesson from this awful situation, but those journalists who credulously went with the &quot;miracle&quot; story without, as Jess noted, calling the command center, trying to reach the official spokespeople, or tracking down the provenance of the information ought to take a much more urgent one, since the damage they can do is far greater than anything you or I can accomplish with a cellphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBK:</p>
<p>&#8220;A bunch of hicks yammering on their cellphones&#8221; &#8211; my my. Your snoot is showing. These &#8220;hicks&#8221; were, if I understand the situation correctly, probably mine employees.</p>
<blockquote><p>[T]he CEO of the mining company [...] said that the erroneous â€œnewsâ€ of 12 survivors was broadcast over some sort of open phone line from the rescue crew to the command station where mine officials and government officials were staged. The CEO made it clear in the press conference that everyone in the room listening in to the speakerphone heard the same thing and then rushed to make cell phone calls and inform the victimsâ€™ families. </p></blockquote>
<p>Per Catherine, above, at 1:00 PM yesterday. Presumably the mine employees doing the &#8220;yammering&#8221; were of the same &#8220;hick&#8221; pedigree as the miners themselves. You of course are not a &#8220;hick&#8221; &#8211; just terribly insensitive on this point. Way to take the opportunity to use tragedy to further your elevated sense of social status.</p>
<p>Twelve people <i>died</i>. They were in West Virginia, which I&#8217;m guessing is very different from the place you hail from. Their lives were exactly as unlikely and precious as your own and mine, their loved ones will miss them as much as your loved ones would miss you, and the &#8220;hicks yammering&#8221; a very overly optimistic inference to those loved ones believed that they were alleviating pain rather than ultimately causing more of it. We all should take a lesson from this awful situation, but those journalists who credulously went with the &#8220;miracle&#8221; story without, as Jess noted, calling the command center, trying to reach the official spokespeople, or tracking down the provenance of the information ought to take a much more urgent one, since the damage they can do is far greater than anything you or I can accomplish with a cellphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JBK: What I was trying to say is that as a reader you have to be conscious of the hierarchy involved with the production and business of MSM that may serve them well but doesn&#039;t necessarily bring the reader closer to the truth.

The NYTimes did have a more nuanced headline by using &quot;...families say,&quot; but  still published an erroneous front page story.

The blogosphere tends (and should) eschew the hierarchies, to allow the process of vetting sources to occur faster. Some would say that the hierarchy of having an editor et al, is safer, but the MSM does slip up, as we see happening more often, and the Web denizens can rapidly fill in the cracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JBK: What I was trying to say is that as a reader you have to be conscious of the hierarchy involved with the production and business of MSM that may serve them well but doesn&#8217;t necessarily bring the reader closer to the truth.</p>
<p>The NYTimes did have a more nuanced headline by using &#8220;&#8230;families say,&#8221; but  still published an erroneous front page story.</p>
<p>The blogosphere tends (and should) eschew the hierarchies, to allow the process of vetting sources to occur faster. Some would say that the hierarchy of having an editor et al, is safer, but the MSM does slip up, as we see happening more often, and the Web denizens can rapidly fill in the cracks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the coverage of this story exemplifies how much of the media has degenerated into merely &lt;i&gt;narrating&lt;/i&gt; events and passing along rumor &amp; spin (thanks a lot cable news nets) instead of their proper role of reporting the news and investigating incidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the coverage of this story exemplifies how much of the media has degenerated into merely <i>narrating</i> events and passing along rumor &amp; spin (thanks a lot cable news nets) instead of their proper role of reporting the news and investigating incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Impacted Wisdom Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/04/tragic-error/#comment-22531</link>
		<dc:creator>Impacted Wisdom Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not be too harsh on the news media.  Even if they ran the story based on flawed intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not be too harsh on the news media.  Even if they ran the story based on flawed intelligence.</p>
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