Comments on: Suckage http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/ by Jeff Jarvis Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:07:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: penny http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23697 penny Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:15:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23697 <i>Try watching BBC News 24</i> Right. For 24/7 smarmy leftist, mulit-culti, PC, hate America dribble. They are one of the worst for blatant bias mixed with elitist attitudes. <a href="http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> a site devoted to documenting their bias. Try watching BBC News 24

Right. For 24/7 smarmy leftist, mulit-culti, PC, hate America dribble. They are one of the worst for blatant bias mixed with elitist attitudes.

Here’s a site devoted to documenting their bias.

]]> By: Kevin Marks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23669 Kevin Marks Mon, 09 Jan 2006 00:24:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23669 <a href="http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_epeus_archive.html#113657665445571085" rel="nofollow">Live TV is dead, and we're noticing the smell</a> Live TV is dead, and we’re noticing the smell

]]> By: Roger Darlington http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23658 Roger Darlington Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:15:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23658 Try watching BBC News 24 Try watching BBC News 24

]]> By: Alan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23653 Alan Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:02:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23653 O'Reilly? CNN? Is he kidding? If you're going to critique something called television news, then it should both be on television AND actually be news (ie, investigating and reporting, not bullet-point pontificating or event "coverage"). The network nightlies are pathetically homoginized bare overviews that rarely amount to more than a headline plus three sentences of truisms, and the Sunday talk/interview shows are only newsworthy in the way a press conference is. The News Hour is at least worth talking about. I inevitably learn something, and the interviews are worthwhile more often than not (the he said/she said "bipartisan" ones usually a bit less so). But it still falls prey to the utter inability to break through the morrass of relative truthiness (sorry to use it, but it's so handy). Nightline was, of course, similarly a gift from the news gods, though I guess it's Koppel's interviewing ability/tenacity that largely made it so. (I haven't seen it since he left, but the one time I switched over, they were doing a piece on Howard Stern--because I guess the producers thought THAT was the best use of their time, ugh). Basically, if you go to McDonald's, you get a burger; you can't complain about there being no decent chef in the kitchen. O’Reilly? CNN? Is he kidding? If you’re going to critique something called television news, then it should both be on television AND actually be news (ie, investigating and reporting, not bullet-point pontificating or event “coverage”).
The network nightlies are pathetically homoginized bare overviews that rarely amount to more than a headline plus three sentences of truisms, and the Sunday talk/interview shows are only newsworthy in the way a press conference is.
The News Hour is at least worth talking about. I inevitably learn something, and the interviews are worthwhile more often than not (the he said/she said “bipartisan” ones usually a bit less so). But it still falls prey to the utter inability to break through the morrass of relative truthiness (sorry to use it, but it’s so handy).
Nightline was, of course, similarly a gift from the news gods, though I guess it’s Koppel’s interviewing ability/tenacity that largely made it so. (I haven’t seen it since he left, but the one time I switched over, they were doing a piece on Howard Stern–because I guess the producers thought THAT was the best use of their time, ugh).

Basically, if you go to McDonald’s, you get a burger; you can’t complain about there being no decent chef in the kitchen.

]]> By: Ben http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23645 Ben Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:29:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23645 No freakin' kidding! Of course, Media 1.0 sell themselves as reliable and integrous - they say their facts are checked and corroborated - but they check their own facts, etc, and it would seem that too many major media outlets either have an agenda or are too afraid to ask a freakin' follow-up question or offer opposing data. Their ultimate goal is, generally, profit - which in and of itself is not an issue - except when they <b>claim</b> that their ultimate goal is journalism/reporting. No freakin’ kidding!

Of course, Media 1.0 sell themselves as reliable and integrous - they say their facts are checked and corroborated - but they check their own facts, etc, and it would seem that too many major media outlets either have an agenda or are too afraid to ask a freakin’ follow-up question or offer opposing data. Their ultimate goal is, generally, profit - which in and of itself is not an issue - except when they claim that their ultimate goal is journalism/reporting.

]]> By: Lee http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23639 Lee Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:12:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23639 "If he doesn’t understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity? Took the words right out of my mouth. " It still sucks beyond words “If he doesn’t understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity?

Took the words right out of my mouth. ”

It still sucks beyond words

]]> By: Louis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23620 Louis Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:48:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23620 I'd love to expose him to local news just to see his head explode. I’d love to expose him to local news just to see his head explode.

]]> By: Vinny http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23619 Vinny Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:47:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23619 <blockquote>If he doesn’t understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity?</blockquote> Took the words right out of my mouth.

If he doesn’t understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity?

Took the words right out of my mouth.

]]> By: Ed Poinsett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23615 Ed Poinsett Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:38:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23615 I primarily get my news from the internet. I occasionally buy the Sunday paper which is all I can stand of print media. If I feel the need to watch TV for news, I'll only tune into Brit Hume at FOX. From the internet, I learned of the WAPO's disgusting treatment and thin corrections of the Bill Roggio story. I wish the MSM were a trusted source for news, but sadly they remain clueless. I primarily get my news from the internet. I occasionally buy the Sunday paper which is all I can stand of print media. If I feel the need to watch TV for news, I’ll only tune into Brit Hume at FOX.

From the internet, I learned of the WAPO’s disgusting treatment and thin corrections of the Bill Roggio story. I wish the MSM were a trusted source for news, but sadly they remain clueless.

]]> By: Right of Center http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23613 Right of Center Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:34:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23613 "O’Reilly, Anderson Cooper, Paula Zahn, " If he doesn't understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity? “O’Reilly, Anderson Cooper, Paula Zahn, ”

If he doesn’t understand the most basic difference between commentary and (supposed) news, why should any of his media criticism have validity?

]]> By: Lee http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23611 Lee Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:31:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23611 it sucks. Beyond sucks. It absolutely blows. There are no words to express the suckage anymore. Well, that’s perhaps too much of a blanket condemnation. NO it is not too much of condemnation. It is not enough. But he is right there are no words to express it. it sucks. Beyond sucks. It absolutely blows. There are no words to express the suckage anymore.

Well, that’s perhaps too much of a blanket condemnation.

NO it is not too much of condemnation. It is not enough. But he is right there are no words to express it.

]]> By: kat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23609 kat Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:37:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23609 {But I have had the experience of having cable news on just to have something on and then looking back after two hours to realize I didn’t learn a damned thing new.} Or miss a damned thing--after a week CNN just keeps milking the same cow for that same Sago story. It's like a soap opera. I would bet they'll still be featuring Anderson Cooper specials well into next week--just the next episode to the same story and repeat everything that preceded. Even Newspapers are better. {But I have had the experience of having cable news on just to have something on and then looking back after two hours to realize I didn’t learn a damned thing new.}
Or miss a damned thing–after a week CNN just keeps milking the same cow for that same Sago story. It’s like a soap opera. I would bet they’ll still be featuring Anderson Cooper specials well into next week–just the next episode to the same story and repeat everything that preceded. Even Newspapers are better.

]]> By: R L http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23608 R L Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:33:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23608 "But I have had the experience of having cable news on just to have something on and then looking back after two hours to realize I didn’t learn a damned thing new." That is the problem cable news has. There really is not much new every two hours, but they still have time to fill and ads to sell. “But I have had the experience of having cable news on just to have something on and then looking back after two hours to realize I didn’t learn a damned thing new.”

That is the problem cable news has. There really is not much new every two hours, but they still have time to fill and ads to sell.

]]> By: Jim Treacher http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/08/suckage/#comment-23603 Jim Treacher Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:44:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=983#comment-23603 I don't think it's fair to lump Paula Zahn in with those guys. I can't masturbate to those guys (usually). I don’t think it’s fair to lump Paula Zahn in with those guys. I can’t masturbate to those guys (usually).

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