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	<title>Comments on: Exploding the conference business</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: J Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-366224</link>
		<dc:creator>J Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the organiser who wants to make a profit will promote the event as much as possible. This means the speakers will be promoted. That means you! So you are getting promotion.
Also most organisers do NOT pay for content but they do not charge for attending as a speaker and usually pay expenses. I think your gripe is with the SIIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the organiser who wants to make a profit will promote the event as much as possible. This means the speakers will be promoted. That means you! So you are getting promotion.<br />
Also most organisers do NOT pay for content but they do not charge for attending as a speaker and usually pay expenses. I think your gripe is with the SIIA.</p>
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		<title>By: austin texas personal injury lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-80946</link>
		<dc:creator>austin texas personal injury lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually i beg to differ. i love conferences. free food. extra sleep. who says you have to be sober the entire time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually i beg to differ. i love conferences. free food. extra sleep. who says you have to be sober the entire time?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-45158</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 06:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nice post,i m agree with you. Most conference are too expensive,hey are filled with boring panels. this is the right thing.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nice post,i m agree with you. Most conference are too expensive,hey are filled with boring panels. this is the right thing.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: The Overlap Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Readings</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-40022</link>
		<dc:creator>The Overlap Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Readings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Definitions Unconference Exploding the Conference Business Innovation vs. Design Design Thinking and Business [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Parking Lot &#187; Unconferencing</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-30812</link>
		<dc:creator>Parking Lot &#187; Unconferencing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Okay folks&#8230;having read Jeff Jarvis today (thanks for the pointer Johnnie) and noting the unconferencing angst going on out there, and noting also that people seems to be feeling around in the dark for some way forward, I&#8217;m here to offer what I can. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Okay folks&#8230;having read Jeff Jarvis today (thanks for the pointer Johnnie) and noting the unconferencing angst going on out there, and noting also that people seems to be feeling around in the dark for some way forward, I&#8217;m here to offer what I can. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Garau</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-29818</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Garau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Smalltalkers in Europe are very lucky. We have an annual conference which is cheap and sponsors either students or poor panelists who cannot afford the trip. 

The social atmosphere is quite unique and for myself is almost a "religious" experience. 

http://www.esug.org/conferences/

Highly recommended

-Francisco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Smalltalkers in Europe are very lucky. We have an annual conference which is cheap and sponsors either students or poor panelists who cannot afford the trip. </p>
<p>The social atmosphere is quite unique and for myself is almost a &#8220;religious&#8221; experience. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.esug.org/conferences/" rel="nofollow">http://www.esug.org/conferences/</a></p>
<p>Highly recommended</p>
<p>-Francisco</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-29489</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment on some conferences and want to offer up one that does do the right thing!  The American College of Healthcare Executives (ACHE) limits the commercialism and gives speakers free admission to the conference, as well as, an $800 honorarium.  See my post on my upcoming presentation on establishing a RHIO at: http://thielst.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/11/the_online_broc.html#trackback.

Also, I find that more local conferences are really productive and the cost is significantly less.  The focus is usually on the learning and networking, and not making money to run the organization.  It seems organizations like ACHE, with more balanced revenue streams can afford to do the right thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment on some conferences and want to offer up one that does do the right thing!  The American College of Healthcare Executives (ACHE) limits the commercialism and gives speakers free admission to the conference, as well as, an $800 honorarium.  See my post on my upcoming presentation on establishing a RHIO at: <a href="http://thielst.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/11/the_online_broc.html#trackback" rel="nofollow">http://thielst.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/11/the_online_broc.html#trackback</a>.</p>
<p>Also, I find that more local conferences are really productive and the cost is significantly less.  The focus is usually on the learning and networking, and not making money to run the organization.  It seems organizations like ACHE, with more balanced revenue streams can afford to do the right thing!</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Broken conferences</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-29469</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Broken conferences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dave Winer now has a series of posts exposing how much companies pay to deliver keynotes at conferences. Gee, I thought it should be the other way around&#8221; speakers worthy anything get paid to speak. If the companies are going to pay to speak, maybe we should be paid to listen. Timeshares do it, why shouldn&#8217;t conferences? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dave Winer now has a series of posts exposing how much companies pay to deliver keynotes at conferences. Gee, I thought it should be the other way around&#8221; speakers worthy anything get paid to speak. If the companies are going to pay to speak, maybe we should be paid to listen. Timeshares do it, why shouldn&#8217;t conferences? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy.Hitchcock.Name</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-29397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy.Hitchcock.Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conferences are such interesting events. With the goals of networking and knowledge transfer, they frequently fail to do both well. It&#8217;s been some time since I have attended anything after being unfulfilled the past few times. Based on the suggestion of an employee (plus their interest in going), I&#8217;m thinking of going to An Event Apart. This (like events put together by Seth Godin) seems like a new breed in events. It&#8217;s not meant for beginners, it&#8217;s more interactive, and more informal. Chance to meet a lot of smart people and worth the try. If this format doesn&#8217;t work, there&#8217;s always the HyperCamp idea. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Conferences are such interesting events. With the goals of networking and knowledge transfer, they frequently fail to do both well. It&#8217;s been some time since I have attended anything after being unfulfilled the past few times. Based on the suggestion of an employee (plus their interest in going), I&#8217;m thinking of going to An Event Apart. This (like events put together by Seth Godin) seems like a new breed in events. It&#8217;s not meant for beginners, it&#8217;s more interactive, and more informal. Chance to meet a lot of smart people and worth the try. If this format doesn&#8217;t work, there&#8217;s always the HyperCamp idea. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28812</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 18:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad I stumbled upon this blog!  I am in the midst of putting together an online convention for commercial real estate - focusing on the folks in small markets, small local firms that don't get to the big conferences or have access to the networking and education opportunities.  We just wanted to test the waters and see if we can get some educational content and blogging going for knowledge sharing.

As for the large traditional conferences - it seems during any given year, the same industry experts are giving the same less than substantive presentations, content is either too general or just plain tired.

I agree with other posters - create models that will cause like minded knowledge seekers to gather - provide someone to share and draw wisdom from the room- virtual or other wise.  There's nothing like a great facilitator or speaker with a focused energetic message that really sparks the attendees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I stumbled upon this blog!  I am in the midst of putting together an online convention for commercial real estate - focusing on the folks in small markets, small local firms that don&#8217;t get to the big conferences or have access to the networking and education opportunities.  We just wanted to test the waters and see if we can get some educational content and blogging going for knowledge sharing.</p>
<p>As for the large traditional conferences - it seems during any given year, the same industry experts are giving the same less than substantive presentations, content is either too general or just plain tired.</p>
<p>I agree with other posters - create models that will cause like minded knowledge seekers to gather - provide someone to share and draw wisdom from the room- virtual or other wise.  There&#8217;s nothing like a great facilitator or speaker with a focused energetic message that really sparks the attendees</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Croesus</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28716</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid Croesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the high price tags of conference act as a reasonable barrier to entry to people who may not be serious contributors -- the price does seem high, but if people are willing to pay, then there is probably significant value attained. I find the price is generally correlated with the level of the attendees.

As for the panels, I agree they are mostly boring -- I think you might get far better learning using a Business School case method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the high price tags of conference act as a reasonable barrier to entry to people who may not be serious contributors &#8212; the price does seem high, but if people are willing to pay, then there is probably significant value attained. I find the price is generally correlated with the level of the attendees.</p>
<p>As for the panels, I agree they are mostly boring &#8212; I think you might get far better learning using a Business School case method.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are stupid to do it after you found out they are charging you to speak. What are you, a rube? I guess so, especially sinsce you don't want to hurt the poor babies feelings after you found that they are cheating you. Here, let me sell your contact info to a shifty marketing firm's 'suckers' list. Be expecting some calls for roofing repairs and term life insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are stupid to do it after you found out they are charging you to speak. What are you, a rube? I guess so, especially sinsce you don&#8217;t want to hurt the poor babies feelings after you found that they are cheating you. Here, let me sell your contact info to a shifty marketing firm&#8217;s &#8217;suckers&#8217; list. Be expecting some calls for roofing repairs and term life insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Association Inc. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Complaining About Conferences</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28415</link>
		<dc:creator>Association Inc. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Complaining About Conferences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People should really stop inviting Jeff Jarvis to speak at their conferences &#8230;  No Tags [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Chapman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28369</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Idea.  You could call the conference service "Face Time",
and organize the meetings using standard blog tools. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Idea.  You could call the conference service &#8220;Face Time&#8221;,<br />
and organize the meetings using standard blog tools. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Balfe</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28343</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Balfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see if anyone on this site has been to a &lt;a href="http://www-142.ibm.com/software/sw-lotus/events/govfor.nsf/wdocs/ls2006home" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lotusphere&lt;/a&gt; from IBM?  I have been to 9 and have spoken 4 times.  I personally loved the conference as a customer and I still feel it is worth the hefty $1800 per person.  This year the conference hosted over 6,000 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see if anyone on this site has been to a <a href="http://www-142.ibm.com/software/sw-lotus/events/govfor.nsf/wdocs/ls2006home" rel="nofollow">Lotusphere</a> from IBM?  I have been to 9 and have spoken 4 times.  I personally loved the conference as a customer and I still feel it is worth the hefty $1800 per person.  This year the conference hosted over 6,000 people.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Mulley&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conferences - Any Irish people care to impart advice?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28342</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Mulley&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conferences - Any Irish people care to impart advice?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis recently taked about creating a new model for conferences to which Robert Scoble shared his experiences. Jeff as usual has given some great advice and Robert added to that and clarified some of the matters. Previously I mentioned the idea of having unconferences in Ireland and now I&#8217;m asking the bloggers out there to share some of their advice from organising conferences in Ireland. Anything that Jeff and Robert have not covered? Fergal and Tom, you both have experience with events like these, got any advice? Technorati Tags: blogs conference ireland irishblogs organising unconference [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis recently taked about creating a new model for conferences to which Robert Scoble shared his experiences. Jeff as usual has given some great advice and Robert added to that and clarified some of the matters. Previously I mentioned the idea of having unconferences in Ireland and now I&#8217;m asking the bloggers out there to share some of their advice from organising conferences in Ireland. Anything that Jeff and Robert have not covered? Fergal and Tom, you both have experience with events like these, got any advice? Technorati Tags: blogs conference ireland irishblogs organising unconference [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28327</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The panels aren't the point of a conference. The panels are what you use to justify the conference to your employer (if you're lucky enough to still have one that pays for conference attendance) or the IRS (if you're not...or if you _are_ your employer). The point of the conference is the conversations in the hallways and in hotel rooms after the main event is over.

One _could_ try to run a conference built just around the stuff that really matters, but without employer reimbursement or even tax deductability. it'd be a lot harder to find people willing to pony up the cost of burning vacation days, flying themselves in, and staying in a hotel in order to have those conversations. Eventually I suspect you'd slam into a kind of inverse network effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The panels aren&#8217;t the point of a conference. The panels are what you use to justify the conference to your employer (if you&#8217;re lucky enough to still have one that pays for conference attendance) or the IRS (if you&#8217;re not&#8230;or if you _are_ your employer). The point of the conference is the conversations in the hallways and in hotel rooms after the main event is over.</p>
<p>One _could_ try to run a conference built just around the stuff that really matters, but without employer reimbursement or even tax deductability. it&#8217;d be a lot harder to find people willing to pony up the cost of burning vacation days, flying themselves in, and staying in a hotel in order to have those conversations. Eventually I suspect you&#8217;d slam into a kind of inverse network effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Under the Radar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Any Suggestions? Under the Radar Companies&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28291</link>
		<dc:creator>Under the Radar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Any Suggestions? Under the Radar Companies&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 03:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the spirit of Jeff Jarvis over at Buzz Machine I&#8217;m posting the list of confirmed companies for our Under the Radar: Web 2.0 event. And thanks Irina for all your work on this. Ok, Suggestions Please! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the spirit of Jeff Jarvis over at Buzz Machine I&#8217;m posting the list of confirmed companies for our Under the Radar: Web 2.0 event. And thanks Irina for all your work on this. Ok, Suggestions Please! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: krusty</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28239</link>
		<dc:creator>krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of jeff's analysis but I would caution against generalizing from an experience with SIIA and Ken Wasch,president of the association .They have very few profitable franchises,so when they build one they work it for every cent it's worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of jeff&#8217;s analysis but I would caution against generalizing from an experience with SIIA and Ken Wasch,president of the association .They have very few profitable franchises,so when they build one they work it for every cent it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage on Omnipotent &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conference costs</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28116</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage on Omnipotent &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conference costs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Man, Scoble worries me about our 1,000 person conference we&#8217;re running in April. Then again, we&#8217;ll need about Â£1,000 to make it zing - a cool Â£1m to you and me. Then again, we&#8217;re not being creamed on refreshments in the same way, and we have a great load of sponsors to take the weight off. And I do hope we avoid doing any of this. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Man, Scoble worries me about our 1,000 person conference we&#8217;re running in April. Then again, we&#8217;ll need about Â£1,000 to make it zing - a cool Â£1m to you and me. Then again, we&#8217;re not being creamed on refreshments in the same way, and we have a great load of sponsors to take the weight off. And I do hope we avoid doing any of this. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Face2Face Meetingsnet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Advice for the risk-adverse</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28068</link>
		<dc:creator>Face2Face Meetingsnet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Advice for the risk-adverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is your organization stuck in a rut, holding the same conference year after year, on the same topics, delivered via talking heads and PowerPoint, in a location chosen because your leaders like to golf there? As Jeff Jarvis says, it&#8217;s time to shake up the conference model. But how do you get past the &#8220;We always do it this way?&#8221; barrier? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is your organization stuck in a rut, holding the same conference year after year, on the same topics, delivered via talking heads and PowerPoint, in a location chosen because your leaders like to golf there? As Jeff Jarvis says, it&#8217;s time to shake up the conference model. But how do you get past the &#8220;We always do it this way?&#8221; barrier? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Winters</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28063</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe nobody's mentioned the YAPC conferences yet. YAPC (Yet Another Perl Conference) has been put on every year since 1999, and more recently it's been put on multiple times per year around the world. (See &lt;a href="http://www.yapc.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the website&lt;/a&gt; for more.)

Costs for attendees are low (~US$85) and the organizers are part of the community and receive little compensation except profound respect for their massive work. While there are several tracks of talks (put on by folks who get their attendance fees waived), one of the main points is the hallway/mealtime chatter among peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe nobody&#8217;s mentioned the YAPC conferences yet. YAPC (Yet Another Perl Conference) has been put on every year since 1999, and more recently it&#8217;s been put on multiple times per year around the world. (See <a href="http://www.yapc.org/" rel="nofollow">the website</a> for more.)</p>
<p>Costs for attendees are low (~US$85) and the organizers are part of the community and receive little compensation except profound respect for their massive work. While there are several tracks of talks (put on by folks who get their attendance fees waived), one of the main points is the hallway/mealtime chatter among peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Under the Radar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Say You Want a Revolution&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28028</link>
		<dc:creator>Under the Radar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Say You Want a Revolution&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posting today on BuzzMachine, blogger Jeff Jarvis argues that &#8220;the conference business is ripe for revolution.&#8221; Maybe so (and after all, what isn&#8217;t?). But Jeff, while I wholeheartedly agree with your prescription for conferences that &#8220;emphasize conversation over lectures, meeting over merely sitting&#8221; (that&#8217;s exactly what we do), some aspects of your diagnosis need another look. For starters, I would be a rich, rich woman if only the financials worked as you&#8217;ve described. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posting today on BuzzMachine, blogger Jeff Jarvis argues that &#8220;the conference business is ripe for revolution.&#8221; Maybe so (and after all, what isn&#8217;t?). But Jeff, while I wholeheartedly agree with your prescription for conferences that &#8220;emphasize conversation over lectures, meeting over merely sitting&#8221; (that&#8217;s exactly what we do), some aspects of your diagnosis need another look. For starters, I would be a rich, rich woman if only the financials worked as you&#8217;ve described. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28012</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, your words land very close to home.

I completely agree with this metaphor. I founded Open Source Events on the pure premise of educating attendees by the leaders in the industry.

By doing so, this does not involve me charging them $1000+ USD. I simply charge what makes sense for the occasion. The first conference I held, I charged around $100 and $75 early bird. This is CDN funds by the way.

The second conference I held, I decided I would give the attendees lunch as they complained about having to walk a few blocks, find food, wait for it, eat it, which resulted in being late for the talk after lunch. So, lunch was thrown in, for a marginal cost. So this second conference, I charged $125 early bird and $150 regular. Attendance was adequate, seeing as this was really the second large event I had put on. There were only 5 speakers for this event, and all but one really made it worth while. Everyone praised the event, well organized, cost friendly, and the content was great.

Third event came along, which is actually still in the works (&lt;a href="http://canadaonrails.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Canada on Rails&lt;/a&gt; YVR06 here in Vancouver) happening on April 13-14. This event is a two day conference, with 15 speakers, spanning over two days, at a hotel.  This event has increased the cost by nearly 4-5x the last two events. Simply because as you mention, when you target anything near 1,000 (I am targeting 500 for this event), the costs go way, way up. You need to get a hotel, they have rules on in-house catering which are incredibly expensive, speaker flights, etc. Simple point is that yes indeed, the costs do go up substantially. But guess what? The cost of the conference is only $250 CDN. Which simply equates to at least 6x cheaper than all of the major US conferences. And what is going to be the difference between this event and theirs? Hopefully nothing other than a significantly less expensive ticket. BUT. And this is a big but. I fly the speakers in, provide them a nice hotel room (4 star plus), definitely don't charge them to attend the same conference they are helping to put on, and they get to enjoy a free vacation to the city which the event is at.

Major conference organizations are looking at figures in the million dollar gross. Their base profit (minus hard costs like catering, room) are quite close to their gross. They don't fly in speakers, they make money off them purchasing a ticket to attend the conference, leave them on their own for hotels, and basically use them to build up an event.

This doesn't work for me. At all. Speakers need to be treated with more respect than what they have been given at these major conferences. It is ridiculous to invite them to submit a proposal and expect them to come on the premise of being charged.

My goal is simple with &lt;a href="http://osevents.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;OS Events&lt;/a&gt;. I don't plan to make it big off one event. And I do plan to pay gratitude to those that help make the event a success. Right now Open Source Events at just under two years old is still in its infancy, but it's a organization that I hope will grow into something that becomes invaluable to the Open Source community as a whole. And I am eager to help those that make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, your words land very close to home.</p>
<p>I completely agree with this metaphor. I founded Open Source Events on the pure premise of educating attendees by the leaders in the industry.</p>
<p>By doing so, this does not involve me charging them $1000+ USD. I simply charge what makes sense for the occasion. The first conference I held, I charged around $100 and $75 early bird. This is CDN funds by the way.</p>
<p>The second conference I held, I decided I would give the attendees lunch as they complained about having to walk a few blocks, find food, wait for it, eat it, which resulted in being late for the talk after lunch. So, lunch was thrown in, for a marginal cost. So this second conference, I charged $125 early bird and $150 regular. Attendance was adequate, seeing as this was really the second large event I had put on. There were only 5 speakers for this event, and all but one really made it worth while. Everyone praised the event, well organized, cost friendly, and the content was great.</p>
<p>Third event came along, which is actually still in the works (<a href="http://canadaonrails.com" rel="nofollow">Canada on Rails</a> YVR06 here in Vancouver) happening on April 13-14. This event is a two day conference, with 15 speakers, spanning over two days, at a hotel.  This event has increased the cost by nearly 4-5x the last two events. Simply because as you mention, when you target anything near 1,000 (I am targeting 500 for this event), the costs go way, way up. You need to get a hotel, they have rules on in-house catering which are incredibly expensive, speaker flights, etc. Simple point is that yes indeed, the costs do go up substantially. But guess what? The cost of the conference is only $250 CDN. Which simply equates to at least 6x cheaper than all of the major US conferences. And what is going to be the difference between this event and theirs? Hopefully nothing other than a significantly less expensive ticket. BUT. And this is a big but. I fly the speakers in, provide them a nice hotel room (4 star plus), definitely don&#8217;t charge them to attend the same conference they are helping to put on, and they get to enjoy a free vacation to the city which the event is at.</p>
<p>Major conference organizations are looking at figures in the million dollar gross. Their base profit (minus hard costs like catering, room) are quite close to their gross. They don&#8217;t fly in speakers, they make money off them purchasing a ticket to attend the conference, leave them on their own for hotels, and basically use them to build up an event.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t work for me. At all. Speakers need to be treated with more respect than what they have been given at these major conferences. It is ridiculous to invite them to submit a proposal and expect them to come on the premise of being charged.</p>
<p>My goal is simple with <a href="http://osevents.com" rel="nofollow">OS Events</a>. I don&#8217;t plan to make it big off one event. And I do plan to pay gratitude to those that help make the event a success. Right now Open Source Events at just under two years old is still in its infancy, but it&#8217;s a organization that I hope will grow into something that becomes invaluable to the Open Source community as a whole. And I am eager to help those that make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Freeman-Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/exploding-the-conference-business/#comment-28005</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Freeman-Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm helping to organize &lt;a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;EclipseCon&lt;/a&gt; and while we're not at the totally low-cost free end of the scale, we've deliberately tried hard to be zero-revenue: no profit, no loss. The cost of conference facilities (especially food and AV) is the killer item - I opened our budget a bit for all to see: both the income side (&lt;a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-expenses.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;post 1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-expenses-part-2.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;post 2&lt;/a&gt;) and the expense side (&lt;a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/open-source-eclipsecon-budgeting.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;post 1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-sponsors.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;post 2&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m helping to organize <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/" rel="nofollow">EclipseCon</a> and while we&#8217;re not at the totally low-cost free end of the scale, we&#8217;ve deliberately tried hard to be zero-revenue: no profit, no loss. The cost of conference facilities (especially food and AV) is the killer item - I opened our budget a bit for all to see: both the income side (<a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-expenses.html" rel="nofollow">post 1</a>, <a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-expenses-part-2.html" rel="nofollow">post 2</a>) and the expense side (<a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/open-source-eclipsecon-budgeting.html" rel="nofollow">post 1</a>, <a href="http://eclipse-projects.blogspot.com/2005/12/eclipsecon-sponsors.html" rel="nofollow">post 2</a>).</p>
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