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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28538</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Crisp,

I would say "So what?" faster than you could blink and I wouldn't be the the only one.

Perhaps your social circles are overly homogenous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Crisp,</p>
<p>I would say &#8220;So what?&#8221; faster than you could blink and I wouldn&#8217;t be the the only one.</p>
<p>Perhaps your social circles are overly homogenous.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred T.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28516</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goes to show you it's dangerous being part of the U.S. propaganda machine and I would suggest to have some independence implanted, while Woodruff is in the hospital. Then when is he hopefully fully recovered, he can begin reporting on the DAILY bombing by US. military in Iraq, the out of control street crime, including kidnapping, robbery and rapes or how about the missing 8 billion the U.S. media dosen't seem interested in reporting, probably because it will reflect badly on the bush regime. 
I don't expect the truth to be told about the war crimes in Fallujah, including the total destruction of the city, what the BRAVE and independent reporter Dahr Jamail found, dirt was removed from city and the streets were washed to remove traces of chemical weapons that were used, otherwise known as white phosphorus.
In addition why hasn't ANY reporter ask Bush, rumsfeld or anybody else what the hell is a convicted felon(for stealing millions of dollars) is doing running Iraq's oil industry, the infamous Ahmed Chalabi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goes to show you it&#8217;s dangerous being part of the U.S. propaganda machine and I would suggest to have some independence implanted, while Woodruff is in the hospital. Then when is he hopefully fully recovered, he can begin reporting on the DAILY bombing by US. military in Iraq, the out of control street crime, including kidnapping, robbery and rapes or how about the missing 8 billion the U.S. media dosen&#8217;t seem interested in reporting, probably because it will reflect badly on the bush regime.<br />
I don&#8217;t expect the truth to be told about the war crimes in Fallujah, including the total destruction of the city, what the BRAVE and independent reporter Dahr Jamail found, dirt was removed from city and the streets were washed to remove traces of chemical weapons that were used, otherwise known as white phosphorus.<br />
In addition why hasn&#8217;t ANY reporter ask Bush, rumsfeld or anybody else what the hell is a convicted felon(for stealing millions of dollars) is doing running Iraq&#8217;s oil industry, the infamous Ahmed Chalabi.</p>
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		<title>By: Milania</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28240</link>
		<dc:creator>Milania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soldiers seem to agree with Trump...


Some US troops question Woodruff coverage
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060131-041958-8164r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soldiers seem to agree with Trump&#8230;</p>
<p>Some US troops question Woodruff coverage<br />
<a href="http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060131-041958-8164r" rel="nofollow">http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060131-041958-8164r</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cortney</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28152</link>
		<dc:creator>Cortney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put.  Wish I could have said it that well myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put.  Wish I could have said it that well myself.</p>
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		<title>By: David Crisp</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28102</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, You seem to see this thread as evidence of the news as conversation. To me it provides evidence of the end of conversation.

If a bunch of us were sitting around face to face, and somebody walked in to convey the news that someone whose name was known to all of us had just been seriously injured, nobody would ever think to reply, "So what?" It would be so wildly inappropriate that everybody above the age of 8 would just instantly know how inappropriate that would be. Forget all the excuses about media celebrities and the cosmic implications of human suffering: It just wouldn't be right, and everybody would instantly know it wasn't right. As Cortney says, show a little respect.

Only on the Internet would there even be a discussion of whether some anonymous ass (you had it right the first time) was right to express public indifference to the suffering of others. This isn't conversation; it's shock therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, You seem to see this thread as evidence of the news as conversation. To me it provides evidence of the end of conversation.</p>
<p>If a bunch of us were sitting around face to face, and somebody walked in to convey the news that someone whose name was known to all of us had just been seriously injured, nobody would ever think to reply, &#8220;So what?&#8221; It would be so wildly inappropriate that everybody above the age of 8 would just instantly know how inappropriate that would be. Forget all the excuses about media celebrities and the cosmic implications of human suffering: It just wouldn&#8217;t be right, and everybody would instantly know it wasn&#8217;t right. As Cortney says, show a little respect.</p>
<p>Only on the Internet would there even be a discussion of whether some anonymous ass (you had it right the first time) was right to express public indifference to the suffering of others. This isn&#8217;t conversation; it&#8217;s shock therapy.</p>
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		<title>By: CaNN :: We started it.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-28050</link>
		<dc:creator>CaNN :: We started it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ABC ANCHOR Bob Woodruff and a cameraman were seriously injured in a bomb attack while they were taping in a military vehicle in Iraq &#8230;. (buzzmachine) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ABC ANCHOR Bob Woodruff and a cameraman were seriously injured in a bomb attack while they were taping in a military vehicle in Iraq &#8230;. (buzzmachine) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cortney</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27998</link>
		<dc:creator>Cortney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said nothing that we should "hue and cry" more about the deaths and injuries of our military people serving, or "celebrities" as Trump called this reporter.  I was saying show a little respect.  I would have reacted the same way if the same comment had been written about anybody who had been hurt or died for any reason.  "So What?" is just a pointless blubbering, that was what i was trying to get across.  If all you got it that i was trying to celebritize the military and that reporter saying that we should feel more sorry for him than others than you should really feel sorry for yourself.  How about making educated statements and opinions instead of just writting disrespectful slander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said nothing that we should &#8220;hue and cry&#8221; more about the deaths and injuries of our military people serving, or &#8220;celebrities&#8221; as Trump called this reporter.  I was saying show a little respect.  I would have reacted the same way if the same comment had been written about anybody who had been hurt or died for any reason.  &#8220;So What?&#8221; is just a pointless blubbering, that was what i was trying to get across.  If all you got it that i was trying to celebritize the military and that reporter saying that we should feel more sorry for him than others than you should really feel sorry for yourself.  How about making educated statements and opinions instead of just writting disrespectful slander.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27982</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Laurence Haughton - not much evidence of a discussion on the part of JJ here.</description>
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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27972</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think that flinging crap (namecalling and the like) at another is a discussion any more than two TVs facing each other at full volume are conversing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that flinging crap (namecalling and the like) at another is a discussion any more than two TVs facing each other at full volume are conversing.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27969</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to find out about, and read stories on some of the 16,000+ wounded soldiers (so far) from the Iraq war, try here:

http://icasualties.org/oif/Wounded.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to find out about, and read stories on some of the 16,000+ wounded soldiers (so far) from the Iraq war, try here:</p>
<p><a href="http://icasualties.org/oif/Wounded.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://icasualties.org/oif/Wounded.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27946</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what about the issue of whether posting about journalists' injuries is merely celebrity-fetishism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what about the issue of whether posting about journalists&#8217; injuries is merely celebrity-fetishism?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G'bless, Trump, that is the perfect circle. We disagree with each other. We each thinks the other makes misteps (each catalogued above). But the discussion is worth all that... and that's the moral I've been trying to get across. .

OK, the group hug is over now.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;bless, Trump, that is the perfect circle. We disagree with each other. We each thinks the other makes misteps (each catalogued above). But the discussion is worth all that&#8230; and that&#8217;s the moral I&#8217;ve been trying to get across. .</p>
<p>OK, the group hug is over now.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Trump</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27934</link>
		<dc:creator>Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to apologize Jeff, it is your blog regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to apologize Jeff, it is your blog regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, yes, I will now apologize for the particular use of "ass." Sorry, Trump. I used you to make a point and I figured you'd be game since you don't much like me anyway. 

I've been talking with media folks who wonder why I would not kill a comment such as the one he made at the start of this thread. This is why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, yes, I will now apologize for the particular use of &#8220;ass.&#8221; Sorry, Trump. I used you to make a point and I figured you&#8217;d be game since you don&#8217;t much like me anyway. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been talking with media folks who wonder why I would not kill a comment such as the one he made at the start of this thread. This is why.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the "ass" reference comes from the column above. But I found his first comment above offensive and I'm saying that's what I think of it but I leave it there for it to speak for itself and for you to judge it for yourselves, as I knew you would. Point proven. I think Trump's comment was assish. He thinks I'm assish. You disagree with me. Others agreed with me and were offended. And there we have it: discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the &#8220;ass&#8221; reference comes from the column above. But I found his first comment above offensive and I&#8217;m saying that&#8217;s what I think of it but I leave it there for it to speak for itself and for you to judge it for yourselves, as I knew you would. Point proven. I think Trump&#8217;s comment was assish. He thinks I&#8217;m assish. You disagree with me. Others agreed with me and were offended. And there we have it: discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: CCollins</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27911</link>
		<dc:creator>CCollins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I agree with Zimmer &#38; CaptiousNut about Trump's comments here.

Trump is correct, although perhaps a bit blunt for some people's emotional shells. His comments did not justify the a$$ epithet pinned upon him by the 'authorities' here.

The MSM is overwhelmed by its mawkish hyper-sensitivity toward the truth of normal suffering &#38; death in human existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I agree with Zimmer &amp; CaptiousNut about Trump&#8217;s comments here.</p>
<p>Trump is correct, although perhaps a bit blunt for some people&#8217;s emotional shells. His comments did not justify the a$$ epithet pinned upon him by the &#8216;authorities&#8217; here.</p>
<p>The MSM is overwhelmed by its mawkish hyper-sensitivity toward the truth of normal suffering &amp; death in human existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Trump</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27908</link>
		<dc:creator>Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO, or when you appeared on that panel to abuse the author of a book you didn't even read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO, or when you appeared on that panel to abuse the author of a book you didn&#8217;t even read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trump</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27906</link>
		<dc:creator>Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m leaving Trumpâ€™s comments here as case-in-point when I argue in the column above and posts below about moderating interactivity: We all know who the asses are and donâ€™t need anyone to point that out to us or protect us from them. They stand out and speak for themselves&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed Jeff, as when you made your (in)famous "facts don't matter, only the greater truths and lessons matter" statement during Katrina.

Maybe you want to think twice next time before slinging mud at me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™m leaving Trumpâ€™s comments here as case-in-point when I argue in the column above and posts below about moderating interactivity: We all know who the asses are and donâ€™t need anyone to point that out to us or protect us from them. They stand out and speak for themselves</i></p>
<p>Indeed Jeff, as when you made your (in)famous &#8220;facts don&#8217;t matter, only the greater truths and lessons matter&#8221; statement during Katrina.</p>
<p>Maybe you want to think twice next time before slinging mud at me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27889</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 700 people die a week in the US in car accidents.  What is more tragic, dying in a car accident while driving your kids to soccer practice or going to a war zone and getting injured?

That doesn't demean the injury of a journalist, it just puts it in perspective.

No way those comments make Trump an "ass".

Of course the media is going to make a bigger deal when one of their own gets hurt.  If they prolong it, then I will take offense.

But I am still waiting for Hollywood filmmakers to get upset over the murder of Theo Van Gogh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 700 people die a week in the US in car accidents.  What is more tragic, dying in a car accident while driving your kids to soccer practice or going to a war zone and getting injured?</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t demean the injury of a journalist, it just puts it in perspective.</p>
<p>No way those comments make Trump an &#8220;ass&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course the media is going to make a bigger deal when one of their own gets hurt.  If they prolong it, then I will take offense.</p>
<p>But I am still waiting for Hollywood filmmakers to get upset over the murder of Theo Van Gogh.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zimmer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27879</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - why must Trump be characterized as an "ass"? His point has some validity, and worthy of disucssion, not insult &#38; ridicule.

Why is it that we should worry more about these injuries than the daily injuries that occur in Iraq? Why do you highlight these, and not others? Trump suggests it is because of celebrity status and becuase they are journalists. Do you agree? What does this say about our media culture that their injuries makes the front page, but not the kid from across the street who got hurt yesterday in Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff - why must Trump be characterized as an &#8220;ass&#8221;? His point has some validity, and worthy of disucssion, not insult &amp; ridicule.</p>
<p>Why is it that we should worry more about these injuries than the daily injuries that occur in Iraq? Why do you highlight these, and not others? Trump suggests it is because of celebrity status and becuase they are journalists. Do you agree? What does this say about our media culture that their injuries makes the front page, but not the kid from across the street who got hurt yesterday in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27875</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm leaving Trump's comments here as case-in-point when I argue in the column above and posts below about moderating interactivity: We all know who the asses are and don't need anyone to point that out to us or protect us from them. They stand out and speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m leaving Trump&#8217;s comments here as case-in-point when I argue in the column above and posts below about moderating interactivity: We all know who the asses are and don&#8217;t need anyone to point that out to us or protect us from them. They stand out and speak for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27871</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In short weâ€™ll be bombarded with precisely the kind of pseudo-patriotic and tearful â€œtributeâ€ which the media would never in a million years give a staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines.&lt;/i&gt;

When the press does focus on the "staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines" who gets badly wounded the press is accused of focusing on the negative in Iraq. Remember the hysteria when Nightline showed the faces of all the US soldiers who had been killed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In short weâ€™ll be bombarded with precisely the kind of pseudo-patriotic and tearful â€œtributeâ€ which the media would never in a million years give a staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines.</i></p>
<p>When the press does focus on the &#8220;staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines&#8221; who gets badly wounded the press is accused of focusing on the negative in Iraq. Remember the hysteria when Nightline showed the faces of all the US soldiers who had been killed?</p>
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		<title>By: ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jeff's point is something like this: Do this insurgents cause death more for the cameras than the actual damage to our troops, Allies, or Iraqi gov't forces?

That's a difficult question, but I think the intuitive answer is yes, whether one in question is a Sunni factionalist who will not accept the current regime, or a member of Al-Qaeda in Iraq. The time to have struck in order to destroy the gov't completely was back when the first election was being held, and ministers of the gov't could be shot at in broad daylight, and the road from the airport wasn't secure - you know, around Feb. of last year.

Now it's quite conceiveable that nothing in Iraq is secure, but the longer this goes, the more the enemy must be growing impatient. For there is no supreme commander of insurgent/Al-Qaeda forces who can see "Aha! We've lost Fallujah, but we have a few tribal chiefs around Basra," etc. Either the Iraqi gov't is there, or it's not. It seems there to stay right now, at least from my comfy view in front of the computer screen. If the terrorists see it even a smidgen the way I see it, then the only thing left is to &lt;i&gt;discredit&lt;/i&gt; the gov't, which means attacks on men &#38; material or getting provinces to revolt or establishing training camps or allowing Iran &#38; Syria to establish groups friendlier to them than the current Iraqi regime are all on the backburner - what matters most is spectacular body counts, and camera footage of stuff blowing up.

The strategy is to get this stuff all over Al-Jazeera &#38; whatever else, and make people sick to their stomachs, I would assume. When the violence subsides, the corruption of the current Iraqi gov't - and I'm sure there's enormous corruption - will become an issue, and the political infighting might be enough to destabilize the whole country.

It sounds like a nutty strategy, but one has to think long-term, I would guess. The current insurgency probably knows its not going to prevail, so it has to do things to establish itself and make the current regime look bad so that if circumstances change, it can take power, or at least dissolve the status quo entirely. And one can conceive of individual insurgent groups having this sort of strategy, each independent of the other, so I submit this for all of your consideration, and add that I am guessing and could be wrong about all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jeff&#8217;s point is something like this: Do this insurgents cause death more for the cameras than the actual damage to our troops, Allies, or Iraqi gov&#8217;t forces?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a difficult question, but I think the intuitive answer is yes, whether one in question is a Sunni factionalist who will not accept the current regime, or a member of Al-Qaeda in Iraq. The time to have struck in order to destroy the gov&#8217;t completely was back when the first election was being held, and ministers of the gov&#8217;t could be shot at in broad daylight, and the road from the airport wasn&#8217;t secure - you know, around Feb. of last year.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s quite conceiveable that nothing in Iraq is secure, but the longer this goes, the more the enemy must be growing impatient. For there is no supreme commander of insurgent/Al-Qaeda forces who can see &#8220;Aha! We&#8217;ve lost Fallujah, but we have a few tribal chiefs around Basra,&#8221; etc. Either the Iraqi gov&#8217;t is there, or it&#8217;s not. It seems there to stay right now, at least from my comfy view in front of the computer screen. If the terrorists see it even a smidgen the way I see it, then the only thing left is to <i>discredit</i> the gov&#8217;t, which means attacks on men &amp; material or getting provinces to revolt or establishing training camps or allowing Iran &amp; Syria to establish groups friendlier to them than the current Iraqi regime are all on the backburner - what matters most is spectacular body counts, and camera footage of stuff blowing up.</p>
<p>The strategy is to get this stuff all over Al-Jazeera &amp; whatever else, and make people sick to their stomachs, I would assume. When the violence subsides, the corruption of the current Iraqi gov&#8217;t - and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s enormous corruption - will become an issue, and the political infighting might be enough to destabilize the whole country.</p>
<p>It sounds like a nutty strategy, but one has to think long-term, I would guess. The current insurgency probably knows its not going to prevail, so it has to do things to establish itself and make the current regime look bad so that if circumstances change, it can take power, or at least dissolve the status quo entirely. And one can conceive of individual insurgent groups having this sort of strategy, each independent of the other, so I submit this for all of your consideration, and add that I am guessing and could be wrong about all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27804</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yet another reason why blogging is better than "old media" journalism.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yet another reason why blogging is better than &#8220;old media&#8221; journalism.<br />
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		<title>By: Right of Center</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/01/29/woodruff-injured/#comment-27801</link>
		<dc:creator>Right of Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the journalists fully recover.  But what is interesting (and revealing) about this incident is how much "press" it will get.  Scores of reports, tributary glowing accolades for the brave reporters.  There will be articles and glowing tv pieces about the glorious and heroic yet dangerous and oh so necessary practice of journalism.

In short we'll be bombarded with precisely the kind of pseudo-patriotic and tearful "tribute" which the media would never in a million years give a staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the journalists fully recover.  But what is interesting (and revealing) about this incident is how much &#8220;press&#8221; it will get.  Scores of reports, tributary glowing accolades for the brave reporters.  There will be articles and glowing tv pieces about the glorious and heroic yet dangerous and oh so necessary practice of journalism.</p>
<p>In short we&#8217;ll be bombarded with precisely the kind of pseudo-patriotic and tearful &#8220;tribute&#8221; which the media would never in a million years give a staff sergeant grunt from DeMoines.</p>
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