Comments on: The comment sphere http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/ by Jeff Jarvis Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:12:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Svetlana http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-114935 Svetlana Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:51:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-114935 Your work is marvelous!! Your work is marvelous!!

]]> By: devlon duthie » Blog Archive » links for 2006-07-01 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-88318 devlon duthie » Blog Archive » links for 2006-07-01 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:23:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-88318 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The comment sphere First, there was the centralized content sphere: big publications that created and controlled content. That lasted, oh, six centuries or so. Then came the distributed content sphere: blogs and the internet, control at the edges but still under individual (tags: identity Search tagging comments) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The comment sphere First, there was the centralized content sphere: big publications that created and controlled content. That lasted, oh, six centuries or so. Then came the distributed content sphere: blogs and the internet, control at the edges but still under individual (tags: identity Search tagging comments) [...]

]]> By: Helen, software developer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-35525 Helen, software developer Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:45:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-35525 The question of comments is a very controversial one. I myself don't trust bloggers a lot. And of course even less I will trust the comments' authors. The matter of trust and information sources reliability. The question of comments is a very controversial one. I myself don’t trust bloggers a lot. And of course even less I will trust the comments’ authors. The matter of trust and information sources reliability.

]]> By: Geof F. Morris http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-29113 Geof F. Morris Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:01:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-29113 Jeff: <a href="http://gfmorris.org/archives/2005/12/05/personal-comment-aggregation/" rel="nofollow">I've been doing a lot of thinking about what I'm looking for as a user</a>, and <a href="http://ijsm.org/archives/2006/02/04/cocomment-weblog-comment-tracking/" rel="nofollow">I'm really afraid that CoComment isn't it, because I'm afraid that it's too easy to spam</a>. <a href="http://ijsm.org/archives/2005/11/08/personal-comment-aggregation/" rel="nofollow">I'm sticking with my method of sticking it all in del.icio.us and hoping that they continue to let me have my data</a>. Jeff: I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about what I’m looking for as a user, and I’m really afraid that CoComment isn’t it, because I’m afraid that it’s too easy to spam. I’m sticking with my method of sticking it all in del.icio.us and hoping that they continue to let me have my data.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Buzz, blogs, and bucks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-29093 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Buzz, blogs, and bucks Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:52:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-29093 [...] : Don Dodge also writes about how much easier it is to launch a company today in part because you don’t have to do through the gatekeepers of the press. Witness the launch of CoComment this week, upon which I commented along with many others. They launched via blogs and they got help doing that from the guy who understands spreading a message via blogs better than most anyone: Hugh MacLeod. Says Dodge: We now live in a meritocracy. Money, VCs, and the press no longer decide what will be successful. Great products/services with intuitive designs that solve a real problem win. [...] [...] : Don Dodge also writes about how much easier it is to launch a company today in part because you don’t have to do through the gatekeepers of the press. Witness the launch of CoComment this week, upon which I commented along with many others. They launched via blogs and they got help doing that from the guy who understands spreading a message via blogs better than most anyone: Hugh MacLeod. Says Dodge: We now live in a meritocracy. Money, VCs, and the press no longer decide what will be successful. Great products/services with intuitive designs that solve a real problem win. [...]

]]> By: Shola Ogunlokun http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-29025 Shola Ogunlokun Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:44:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-29025 Just leaving another trail in cyberspace, a very interesting project, I wonder what I would make of the trail I've left behind if I could colate everything together. Will continue to monitor this, at the moment, I don't get it, so have not joined in the bandwagon yet. <a href="http://mbchallenge.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">I want to fly a hang glider across the UK</a> Just leaving another trail in cyberspace, a very interesting project, I wonder what I would make of the trail I’ve left behind if I could colate everything together.

Will continue to monitor this, at the moment, I don’t get it, so have not joined in the bandwagon yet.

I want to fly a hang glider across the UK

]]> By: Alan Kellogg http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28967 Alan Kellogg Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:30:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28967 I recall an essay by the late Stephan Jay Gould on baseball statistics. It was also an essay on evolution, and how the difference in variability in baseball statistics between the early days of the modern game, and the game at the time he wrote the essay, illustrated how evolutionary pressures worked on our pastimes. We're seeing the same thing in the realm of communication on-line. New technologies are being tried out, new methods, and what does the job best has yet to be worked out. In short, the optimal method has yet to evolve. On-line bulletin boards will mail you notification of replies to threads you have posted in or subscribed to. Some allow participants to rate other posters, which in the long run can give people some idea as to who is considered reliable, and who is not. Though there is potential for abuse in that feature. The goal is to help participants keep track of conversations they are interested in, and to give them some idea of who can be trusted. It looks like coComment is set up to provide much the same service as a forum's notification function, with additional utility. Allowing one to see where the conversation has gone should it be taken up on another venue. Would be nice to see what people are saying about my writings in venues I don't know about. :) What will come of all this? I haven't the foggiest. What seems obvious to us now is apt to be forgotten in a few years. While the obscure today becomes the standard later. I recall an essay by the late Stephan Jay Gould on baseball statistics. It was also an essay on evolution, and how the difference in variability in baseball statistics between the early days of the modern game, and the game at the time he wrote the essay, illustrated how evolutionary pressures worked on our pastimes.

We’re seeing the same thing in the realm of communication on-line. New technologies are being tried out, new methods, and what does the job best has yet to be worked out. In short, the optimal method has yet to evolve.

On-line bulletin boards will mail you notification of replies to threads you have posted in or subscribed to. Some allow participants to rate other posters, which in the long run can give people some idea as to who is considered reliable, and who is not. Though there is potential for abuse in that feature. The goal is to help participants keep track of conversations they are interested in, and to give them some idea of who can be trusted.

It looks like coComment is set up to provide much the same service as a forum’s notification function, with additional utility. Allowing one to see where the conversation has gone should it be taken up on another venue. Would be nice to see what people are saying about my writings in venues I don’t know about. :)

What will come of all this? I haven’t the foggiest. What seems obvious to us now is apt to be forgotten in a few years. While the obscure today becomes the standard later.

]]> By: Emil Sotirov http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28956 Emil Sotirov Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:03:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28956 Scroll down <a href="http://architect.aidpage.com/" rel="nofollow">my home page</a> at Aidpage.com (disclosure... I am the CEO of Aidpage)... and you will see what I mean. Please, have in mind that Aidpage is striving to give voice to mostly disenfranchised people that are not into "blogging"... or "citizen journalism", or "writing" for that matter. This means that they need a much more "ready-to-use" environment than what blogging offers at this point. Scroll down my home page at Aidpage.com (disclosure… I am the CEO of Aidpage)… and you will see what I mean.

Please, have in mind that Aidpage is striving to give voice to mostly disenfranchised people that are not into “blogging”… or “citizen journalism”, or “writing” for that matter. This means that they need a much more “ready-to-use” environment than what blogging offers at this point.

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28918 David Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:24:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28918 I honestly don't think it's going to catch on outside of the hardcore user. It's a bit much for the average person to go through to comment - and frankly I think a lot of people don't want their all comments tied together. Some people are transparent about who they are, but most aren't and would rather just drop whatever style comment on whatever site they please. I honestly don’t think it’s going to catch on outside of the hardcore user. It’s a bit much for the average person to go through to comment – and frankly I think a lot of people don’t want their all comments tied together. Some people are transparent about who they are, but most aren’t and would rather just drop whatever style comment on whatever site they please.

]]> By: Adam http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28897 Adam Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:28:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28897 I've always thought it would be a clever idea for someone to start a blog within the comments section of other blogs. For instance, the commentbloggerâ„¢ would impart wisdom here in the comments section of BuzzMachine and tell readers the next entry would be in the comments of cuteoverload, and chage the destination everyday. It could be a clever, viral way to bring traffic to unexplored corners of blogdom. And heaven knows there are plenty of ghost town blogs out there that wouldn't mind the spill over traffic. This brilliant idea © me. :) I’ve always thought it would be a clever idea for someone to start a blog within the comments section of other blogs. For instance, the commentbloggerâ„¢ would impart wisdom here in the comments section of BuzzMachine and tell readers the next entry would be in the comments of cuteoverload, and chage the destination everyday. It could be a clever, viral way to bring traffic to unexplored corners of blogdom. And heaven knows there are plenty of ghost town blogs out there that wouldn’t mind the spill over traffic.
This brilliant idea © me. :)

]]> By: Jersey Exile http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28890 Jersey Exile Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:21:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28890 What's so interesting is that the "comment sphere" is an idea as old as the printed word itself given new life by the digital era. There was a time when a text was not just the words written on a page but the cloud of commentary which enveloped it, with sometimes added rings of metacommentary as authors, scholars, and critics participated in a centuries-long conversation over every last iota of content. Whereas in the beginning these hypertexts would be copied and recopied to incorporate the latest "links", at some point the books became so large and cumbersome to reproduce that the self-appointed custodians of these materials started to leave out the conversation, or at the very least selectively edit it according to what they deemed to be important. Although the print revolution made it possible to partially restore this ancient and medieval comment sphere, it is only now with the advent of digital media (where texts can be infinitely long and infinitely connected) that the conversation has returned -- but whereas in antiquity this dialogue was meant only for the privileged few, now anyone with an internet connection can join in. And while originally the discussion only pertained to a small set of elite texts, anything and everything is fodder for the new comment sphere. What’s so interesting is that the “comment sphere” is an idea as old as the printed word itself given new life by the digital era. There was a time when a text was not just the words written on a page but the cloud of commentary which enveloped it, with sometimes added rings of metacommentary as authors, scholars, and critics participated in a centuries-long conversation over every last iota of content. Whereas in the beginning these hypertexts would be copied and recopied to incorporate the latest “links”, at some point the books became so large and cumbersome to reproduce that the self-appointed custodians of these materials started to leave out the conversation, or at the very least selectively edit it according to what they deemed to be important.

Although the print revolution made it possible to partially restore this ancient and medieval comment sphere, it is only now with the advent of digital media (where texts can be infinitely long and infinitely connected) that the conversation has returned — but whereas in antiquity this dialogue was meant only for the privileged few, now anyone with an internet connection can join in. And while originally the discussion only pertained to a small set of elite texts, anything and everything is fodder for the new comment sphere.

]]> By: BTD Greg http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28889 BTD Greg Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:16:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28889 So I guess we're all going to have to start being more selective about what we say in comments on other people's blogs now and should stop posting throwaway and meaningless comments. Like this one, for example. So I guess we’re all going to have to start being more selective about what we say in comments on other people’s blogs now and should stop posting throwaway and meaningless comments.

Like this one, for example.

]]> By: Syndicator blog » Blog Archive » Comments and Tagging http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28887 Syndicator blog » Blog Archive » Comments and Tagging Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:00:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28887 [...] Jeff is writing about the comment-sphere - and its aspects of tagging and searching. Quoting: [...] [...] Jeff is writing about the comment-sphere – and its aspects of tagging and searching. Quoting: [...]

]]> By: Tom Watson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28879 Tom Watson Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:26:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28879 Jeff, I've been testing this for a few days and it's pretty nifty - to me, the best feature is putting your external conversations on your own blog - for instance, if you check my blog now - http://tomwatson.typepad.com - you'll find this comment linking back to your post - (update: eventually - they're in "maintenance") - now my readers can see what I'm commenting on externally. Almost makes you wonder, in Mo Dowd fashion, are blogs necessary for the conversation? Jeff, I’ve been testing this for a few days and it’s pretty nifty – to me, the best feature is putting your external conversations on your own blog – for instance, if you check my blog now – http://tomwatson.typepad.com – you’ll find this comment linking back to your post – (update: eventually – they’re in “maintenance”) – now my readers can see what I’m commenting on externally. Almost makes you wonder, in Mo Dowd fashion, are blogs necessary for the conversation?

]]> By: Tish Grier http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/02/08/the-comment-sphere/#comment-28873 Tish Grier Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1111#comment-28873 Don't you think it's kind of interesting that blogging, tagging, wikis, etc. are considered social software, yet we're only *now* figuring out ways of tracking how, and where, we've been social? My sense, too, is that if we have better software to track where we leave comments, it might be of interest to Big Media as well as Big Business. If they're so interested in interaction with us little folks, then they should be commenting as well as reading--and something like the stuff mentioned here (and there are others) could actually help them. But will this stuff help people as well as businesses be more transparent? or are we still going to hide behind anonymity and snobbery? Just a thought. Don’t you think it’s kind of interesting that blogging, tagging, wikis, etc. are considered social software, yet we’re only *now* figuring out ways of tracking how, and where, we’ve been social?

My sense, too, is that if we have better software to track where we leave comments, it might be of interest to Big Media as well as Big Business. If they’re so interested in interaction with us little folks, then they should be commenting as well as reading–and something like the stuff mentioned here (and there are others) could actually help them.

But will this stuff help people as well as businesses be more transparent? or are we still going to hide behind anonymity and snobbery? Just a thought.

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