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	<title>Comments on: NJ&#8217;s dumb bill on anonymity</title>
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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Hoofin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-89396</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoofin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DBC is entirely wrong!    That's why he will very likely be sued!

Yes, it's true, probably the Hoofin blogspot was part of Biondi's genesis.    Hoofin pointed out that Biondi seems to favor people with ethnic Italian last names for local government positions.

But that hardly makes Hoofin a bigot----that's DBC's slander!   (and that guy CAN slander!)

Notice how Biondi has quickly abandoned that little bill of his.

But meanwhile, DBC has hardly retracted any of his slanderous statements.

And for a guy who supported the Biondi bill, trust me, it takes a lot of legal and investigative legwork to find out who "DBC" actually is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBC is entirely wrong!    That&#8217;s why he will very likely be sued!</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s true, probably the Hoofin blogspot was part of Biondi&#8217;s genesis.    Hoofin pointed out that Biondi seems to favor people with ethnic Italian last names for local government positions.</p>
<p>But that hardly makes Hoofin a bigot&#8212;-that&#8217;s DBC&#8217;s slander!   (and that guy CAN slander!)</p>
<p>Notice how Biondi has quickly abandoned that little bill of his.</p>
<p>But meanwhile, DBC has hardly retracted any of his slanderous statements.</p>
<p>And for a guy who supported the Biondi bill, trust me, it takes a lot of legal and investigative legwork to find out who &#8220;DBC&#8221; actually is!</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The cost of speech</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-33980</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The cost of speech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We need to effect change legislatively &#8212; and not just to libel law but to any law that regulates speech. I have little hope of that happening on its own. After all, politicians are often the objects &#8212; often deservedly &#8212; of much of the ire expressed by citizens online. In New Jersey, a state legislator proposed a law to require internet services, including online newspapers, to obtain verified names and addresses of commenters or face the liability for anything they say. He said he wanted to bring civility to this nasty internet; one wonders why he hasn&#8217;t wanted to outlaw shouting at football games. But the bill was hooted down by bloggers as absurd, unenforceable, and unconstitutional and the lawmaker slunk away. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We need to effect change legislatively &#8212; and not just to libel law but to any law that regulates speech. I have little hope of that happening on its own. After all, politicians are often the objects &#8212; often deservedly &#8212; of much of the ire expressed by citizens online. In New Jersey, a state legislator proposed a law to require internet services, including online newspapers, to obtain verified names and addresses of commenters or face the liability for anything they say. He said he wanted to bring civility to this nasty internet; one wonders why he hasn&#8217;t wanted to outlaw shouting at football games. But the bill was hooted down by bloggers as absurd, unenforceable, and unconstitutional and the lawmaker slunk away. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FOREIGN BRIDE INVESTIGATORS</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-32951</link>
		<dc:creator>FOREIGN BRIDE INVESTIGATORS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHE CHECKS YOU OUTâ€¦NOW YOU CHECK HER OUT!

Correction from previous blog:

Our site:

http://cyberbrideinvestigators.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHE CHECKS YOU OUTâ€¦NOW YOU CHECK HER OUT!</p>
<p>Correction from previous blog:</p>
<p>Our site:</p>
<p><a href="http://cyberbrideinvestigators.com" rel="nofollow">http://cyberbrideinvestigators.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: FOREIGN BRIDE INVESTIGATORS</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-32950</link>
		<dc:creator>FOREIGN BRIDE INVESTIGATORS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHE CHECKS YOU OUT...NOW YOU CHECK HER OUT!

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What are her true motivations?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHE CHECKS YOU OUT&#8230;NOW YOU CHECK HER OUT!</p>
<p>Common questions that we see from men wanting to know about women on line in other countries:</p>
<p>Does she have a local boyfriend?<br />
Does she have other men on line that â€˜she has seriousâ€™ relationships too?<br />
If so why? Is she scamming them all?</p>
<p>What are her true motivations?</p>
<p>Remember this: You are from a Developed Nation&#8230;She is not!<br />
For that very simple reason you have to be CAREFUL&#8230;but how can you know for sure when she is thousands of miles away?</p>
<p>Filipina, Russian and Foreign Bride Investigators<br />
E mail at <a href="mailto:cbiworldwide@gmail.com">cbiworldwide@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>If you need help to know about your Filipina, Russian or other Foreign friend or fiancÃ©e&#8230;we specialize in helping you know who the person is that you&#8217;re contemplating a serious relationship or marriage with. Is she really who say says she is?<br />
Our goal is to give our clients peace of mind.</p>
<p>~See our very reasonable rates and our service guarantee~<br />
Visit us at:<br />
<a href="http://www.cyberbrideinvestigators.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyberbrideinvestigators.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DBC</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-32660</link>
		<dc:creator>DBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff

I think it was your buddy Hoofin that started this whole ball rolling. On his Blog Mr. Hoofin referred to Mr Biondi as a  Mafia-Don-style Assemblyman (see hoofinâ€™s blog dated 11/10/06,) just days after the hoofin supported â€œQ3â€ public question (to divide Hillsborough into wards) failed in Hillsborough.

After hoofin was called on the carpet for his bigoted remarks he dug himself in deeper by proclaiming 80% (which he later correct to 60%) of Hillsborough government is Italian, or at least Italian sounding names, attempting to somehow justify his Mafia-Don-style, statement. 

I believe Assemblyman Biondiâ€™s bill is aimed at situations just like Iâ€™m outlining here. Assemblyman Biondi does not what to inhibit free speech, but just wants to make people accountable for their words.  Is that a problem?  

 I myself am a strong support of free anonymous speech and I feel it most certainly has itâ€™s place in American Politics and should never be banned, which the bill doesn't.  However, with that freedom, comes the reasonability of honest speech.  To hide behind an alias, and portray anyone as a mobster (which is my opinion of what hoofin was doing) is simply wrong, unless hoofin can prove the Assemblyman is a mobster, which Iâ€™m sure, he canâ€™t.

Anyway, just so you know your No Biondi vote will for certain be cancelled by my Yes for Biondi vote.  Mine and a tons of other Hillsborough residents that frankly are sick and tired of the shenanigans we have  witnessed on the Hillsborouigh board at the hands of hoofin and his buddy Glennvl.  

DBC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff</p>
<p>I think it was your buddy Hoofin that started this whole ball rolling. On his Blog Mr. Hoofin referred to Mr Biondi as a  Mafia-Don-style Assemblyman (see hoofinâ€™s blog dated 11/10/06,) just days after the hoofin supported â€œQ3â€ public question (to divide Hillsborough into wards) failed in Hillsborough.</p>
<p>After hoofin was called on the carpet for his bigoted remarks he dug himself in deeper by proclaiming 80% (which he later correct to 60%) of Hillsborough government is Italian, or at least Italian sounding names, attempting to somehow justify his Mafia-Don-style, statement. </p>
<p>I believe Assemblyman Biondiâ€™s bill is aimed at situations just like Iâ€™m outlining here. Assemblyman Biondi does not what to inhibit free speech, but just wants to make people accountable for their words.  Is that a problem?  </p>
<p> I myself am a strong support of free anonymous speech and I feel it most certainly has itâ€™s place in American Politics and should never be banned, which the bill doesn&#8217;t.  However, with that freedom, comes the reasonability of honest speech.  To hide behind an alias, and portray anyone as a mobster (which is my opinion of what hoofin was doing) is simply wrong, unless hoofin can prove the Assemblyman is a mobster, which Iâ€™m sure, he canâ€™t.</p>
<p>Anyway, just so you know your No Biondi vote will for certain be cancelled by my Yes for Biondi vote.  Mine and a tons of other Hillsborough residents that frankly are sick and tired of the shenanigans we have  witnessed on the Hillsborouigh board at the hands of hoofin and his buddy Glennvl.  </p>
<p>DBC</p>
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		<title>By: Publius of NJ</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-32405</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius of NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It causes me great distress to see a member of "my" party propose such chilling legislation.

I would like to remind Mr. Biondi that Alexander Hamilton, one of the authors of the "Federalist Papers" signed his essays as 'Publius.'

I strongly suggest that Mr. Biondi READ the Federalistr papers and READ the Constitution before he ventures into supporting bills that chill free speech.

As an AVERAGE CITIZEN, even I know what "prior restraint" is -- and I am AMAZED that a N.J. elected official does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It causes me great distress to see a member of &#8220;my&#8221; party propose such chilling legislation.</p>
<p>I would like to remind Mr. Biondi that Alexander Hamilton, one of the authors of the &#8220;Federalist Papers&#8221; signed his essays as &#8216;Publius.&#8217;</p>
<p>I strongly suggest that Mr. Biondi READ the Federalistr papers and READ the Constitution before he ventures into supporting bills that chill free speech.</p>
<p>As an AVERAGE CITIZEN, even I know what &#8220;prior restraint&#8221; is &#8212; and I am AMAZED that a N.J. elected official does not.</p>
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		<title>By: ronbo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31804</link>
		<dc:creator>ronbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least give Biondi credit for a mature climb-down.  The guy may be clueless when it comes to the Internet but I don't think it's fair to give him cloven hooves, horns and a tail.

(I'm not in his district - I'm in Morris not Somerset)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least give Biondi credit for a mature climb-down.  The guy may be clueless when it comes to the Internet but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to give him cloven hooves, horns and a tail.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m not in his district - I&#8217;m in Morris not Somerset)</p>
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		<title>By: citizen media &#187; &#8220;NJâ€™s dumb bill on anonymity&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31751</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen media &#187; &#8220;NJâ€™s dumb bill on anonymity&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Found it on Buzzmachine: http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Found it on Buzzmachine: <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: agricola</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31741</link>
		<dc:creator>agricola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply chanting that a guy is dumb is a waste of a perfectly good First Amendment. 

The "civility" stuff, ostensibly an attempt to make the government into Miss Manners, is, obviously, a smoke screen. He wants to damp out criticism under a cloud of unspecified lawsuits and harassment. 

That plan doesn't make Biondi stupid. It makes him a sneak and a sleaze. Had he been a bit sneakier or craftier he might have come up with a better smoke screen. This time, he was caught. I expect he'll try again, but next time hide it better. The more of you who think that he's too dumb to do that, the easier it will be to sneak it right past you.

I don't know anything about Biondi. I'm in Massachusetts. They're pretty dumb up here too. As well as sneaky and sleazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply chanting that a guy is dumb is a waste of a perfectly good First Amendment. </p>
<p>The &#8220;civility&#8221; stuff, ostensibly an attempt to make the government into Miss Manners, is, obviously, a smoke screen. He wants to damp out criticism under a cloud of unspecified lawsuits and harassment. </p>
<p>That plan doesn&#8217;t make Biondi stupid. It makes him a sneak and a sleaze. Had he been a bit sneakier or craftier he might have come up with a better smoke screen. This time, he was caught. I expect he&#8217;ll try again, but next time hide it better. The more of you who think that he&#8217;s too dumb to do that, the easier it will be to sneak it right past you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Biondi. I&#8217;m in Massachusetts. They&#8217;re pretty dumb up here too. As well as sneaky and sleazy.</p>
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		<title>By: triticale</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31727</link>
		<dc:creator>triticale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also stupid is the presumption that those of use who choose to appear nicknonymously (anonymity relates to the absence of any identity, not just of the True Name) do so to get away with incivility. My primary purpose is to establish a unique and visible identity. Posting false or defamatory information would run counter to thet purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also stupid is the presumption that those of use who choose to appear nicknonymously (anonymity relates to the absence of any identity, not just of the True Name) do so to get away with incivility. My primary purpose is to establish a unique and visible identity. Posting false or defamatory information would run counter to thet purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31714</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civility? Ahh well Jeff you need to find a congress-critter with a brain, and a sense of humor to propose a rider amendment to Biondi's bill:
5. (a) All persons, residing or being temporarily within the State of New Jersey shall commence all verbal communications, whether in person or by telephonic or other electronic methods, and whether or not the other person or persons to whom the communications shall be or shall be intended to be made is in or out of the State of New Jersey, and the first word of the communication shall be the word "Please", or the equivalent thereof in any other language which the person may use, and shall end each communication with and the last words shall be "Thank You" and it shall be a misdemeanour offense to fail to do so under the name 'Misdemeanour Incivility'.
(b) For the purposes of this section, 'communication' shall mean each sentence, paragraph or other division of speech, after which it is, or may be expected that the other persons being communicated to shall respond.
EXCEPTION
(c) All members of the House of Assembly when speaking in the House, but not otherwise, shall use the phrase "May it please the Assembly" or "Thank you Mr. Speaker" as the case may be and it shall be an offense to fail to do so as in paragraph (a). It is hereby declared that no Assemblyman shall be entitled to plead or use the doctrine of legislative immunity to oust the jurisdiction of any court in respect of a charge of Misdemeanour Incivility as the doctrine of legislative immunity applies to words that have been said, and not to words that have not been said, as required by this section.
(d) Each event upon which a person fails to use the word 'Please' or the phrase 'Thank You', as the case may be or the substitutes thereof, as set out in paragraph (c), shall be treated as a separate occurrence and shall be a separate count in any bill or charge against a person.
(e) The electronic recordings of the proceedings of the Assembly of the State of New Jersey, duly attested to by the Clerk of the House, shall be admitted into evidence in any prosecution under this section, without further proof as to the admissibility or contents thereof. In order to increase the level of civility exhibited in the House of Assembly, it is hereby declared that the Clerk of the House shall establish and maintain recording facilities in the House sufficient to record all statements or communications made by members of the House, whether recognized by the Speaker or as communications to others, in general. 
(f) The penalty to be imposed by any court, upon conviction of the offense set out in paragraph (a) hereof, shall be $1.00
(g) The penalty to be imposed by any court upon conviction of the offense set out in parapgraph (c) hereof shall be $1,000.00 and/or one year in prison.
(h) Notwithstanding the foregoing, no person shall be convicted of an offense hereunder merely because the words "Thank You" are not the ultimate words in the communication but are followed by a name, honorific, identifier, salutation or term of endearment, such as, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, "Peter", "Sir", "Doctor", "Sweetheart" or "Moron".


HAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civility? Ahh well Jeff you need to find a congress-critter with a brain, and a sense of humor to propose a rider amendment to Biondi&#8217;s bill:<br />
5. (a) All persons, residing or being temporarily within the State of New Jersey shall commence all verbal communications, whether in person or by telephonic or other electronic methods, and whether or not the other person or persons to whom the communications shall be or shall be intended to be made is in or out of the State of New Jersey, and the first word of the communication shall be the word &#8220;Please&#8221;, or the equivalent thereof in any other language which the person may use, and shall end each communication with and the last words shall be &#8220;Thank You&#8221; and it shall be a misdemeanour offense to fail to do so under the name &#8216;Misdemeanour Incivility&#8217;.<br />
(b) For the purposes of this section, &#8216;communication&#8217; shall mean each sentence, paragraph or other division of speech, after which it is, or may be expected that the other persons being communicated to shall respond.<br />
EXCEPTION<br />
(c) All members of the House of Assembly when speaking in the House, but not otherwise, shall use the phrase &#8220;May it please the Assembly&#8221; or &#8220;Thank you Mr. Speaker&#8221; as the case may be and it shall be an offense to fail to do so as in paragraph (a). It is hereby declared that no Assemblyman shall be entitled to plead or use the doctrine of legislative immunity to oust the jurisdiction of any court in respect of a charge of Misdemeanour Incivility as the doctrine of legislative immunity applies to words that have been said, and not to words that have not been said, as required by this section.<br />
(d) Each event upon which a person fails to use the word &#8216;Please&#8217; or the phrase &#8216;Thank You&#8217;, as the case may be or the substitutes thereof, as set out in paragraph (c), shall be treated as a separate occurrence and shall be a separate count in any bill or charge against a person.<br />
(e) The electronic recordings of the proceedings of the Assembly of the State of New Jersey, duly attested to by the Clerk of the House, shall be admitted into evidence in any prosecution under this section, without further proof as to the admissibility or contents thereof. In order to increase the level of civility exhibited in the House of Assembly, it is hereby declared that the Clerk of the House shall establish and maintain recording facilities in the House sufficient to record all statements or communications made by members of the House, whether recognized by the Speaker or as communications to others, in general.<br />
(f) The penalty to be imposed by any court, upon conviction of the offense set out in paragraph (a) hereof, shall be $1.00<br />
(g) The penalty to be imposed by any court upon conviction of the offense set out in parapgraph (c) hereof shall be $1,000.00 and/or one year in prison.<br />
(h) Notwithstanding the foregoing, no person shall be convicted of an offense hereunder merely because the words &#8220;Thank You&#8221; are not the ultimate words in the communication but are followed by a name, honorific, identifier, salutation or term of endearment, such as, without limiting the generality of the foregoing, &#8220;Peter&#8221;, &#8220;Sir&#8221;, &#8220;Doctor&#8221;, &#8220;Sweetheart&#8221; or &#8220;Moron&#8221;.</p>
<p>HAH!</p>
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		<title>By: Stupidity Loses In New Jersey To The Delight Of Netizens at Literal Barrage</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31712</link>
		<dc:creator>Stupidity Loses In New Jersey To The Delight Of Netizens at Literal Barrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis, who lives in Biondi&#39;s district, reacts here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31710</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Cmon!

You guys are missing the OTHER law that was supposed to come into effect this past Monday which the feminists call the "Mail Order Bride" law. This would have forced all Americans who wish to meet foreigners over the Internet to send the foreigners their criminal background histories as well as how many children they have BEFORE they could be allowed to simply say "hello" or determine if the foreigner is even a man or woman, criminal or honest person.

The International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA) states that all men wishing to make contact with foreign women must first send their criminal background histories and other extremely personal data to the foreign woman and have her sign an affidavit that it is OK for him to speak to her... BEFORE HE CAN EVEN SAY HELLO.
 
Please scroll down to HR3402-3 Subtitle D:
 
http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005to.pdf

Here are the court documents where in EuropeanConnections.com convinced a federal judge to continue allowing American men their First and Fifth Amendment Rights until March 20th when there will be a hearing:

http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConBrief.pdf 

http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConCert.pdf 

Great material here, including the proof that guys who seek foreign wives are in the highest income brackets (and thus beat the foreign wives less than other men beat their American wives).

The feminists will stop at nothing to take away the rights of American men to use the Internet to date and marry whom they want.

President Bush cluelessly signed IMBRA as part of the Violence Against Women Act on January 6th...despite the fact that IMBRA could not pass Congress on its own when it was presented last fall. I think Bush made a deal with Maria Cantwell, the sponsor of the bill, that she would vote against filibustering Alito if he signed this law.

What helped get a unanimous vote in Congress was a mendacious mini-series on feminist Lifetime Television for Womyn called "Human Trafficking"...which implied incorrectly that there is a connection between international dating agencies and trafficking.

If you read the court documents that just got men a reprieve...it seems that Justice Alito is prone to throw this law out...so if NOW and Lifetime Television for Womyn appeal a lower court ruling against the law to the Supreme Court...the Supreme Court is likely to affirm the ruling.

More can be found at www.imbra.org and www.online-dating-rights.com.

And then you guys are forgetting the socalled "Electronic Annoyance Law" that Bush also cluelessly signed in January. Now you cannot argue with anyone online without the loser saying "email me once more and I will charge you under the new law that you are annoying me".

I am glad I live in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Cmon!</p>
<p>You guys are missing the OTHER law that was supposed to come into effect this past Monday which the feminists call the &#8220;Mail Order Bride&#8221; law. This would have forced all Americans who wish to meet foreigners over the Internet to send the foreigners their criminal background histories as well as how many children they have BEFORE they could be allowed to simply say &#8220;hello&#8221; or determine if the foreigner is even a man or woman, criminal or honest person.</p>
<p>The International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA) states that all men wishing to make contact with foreign women must first send their criminal background histories and other extremely personal data to the foreign woman and have her sign an affidavit that it is OK for him to speak to her&#8230; BEFORE HE CAN EVEN SAY HELLO.</p>
<p>Please scroll down to HR3402-3 Subtitle D:</p>
<p><a href="http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005to.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://usaimmigrationattorney.com/images/IMBRA2005to.pdf</a></p>
<p>Here are the court documents where in EuropeanConnections.com convinced a federal judge to continue allowing American men their First and Fifth Amendment Rights until March 20th when there will be a hearing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConBrief.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConBrief.pdf</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConCert.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.online-dating-rights.com/pdf/ConCert.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Great material here, including the proof that guys who seek foreign wives are in the highest income brackets (and thus beat the foreign wives less than other men beat their American wives).</p>
<p>The feminists will stop at nothing to take away the rights of American men to use the Internet to date and marry whom they want.</p>
<p>President Bush cluelessly signed IMBRA as part of the Violence Against Women Act on January 6th&#8230;despite the fact that IMBRA could not pass Congress on its own when it was presented last fall. I think Bush made a deal with Maria Cantwell, the sponsor of the bill, that she would vote against filibustering Alito if he signed this law.</p>
<p>What helped get a unanimous vote in Congress was a mendacious mini-series on feminist Lifetime Television for Womyn called &#8220;Human Trafficking&#8221;&#8230;which implied incorrectly that there is a connection between international dating agencies and trafficking.</p>
<p>If you read the court documents that just got men a reprieve&#8230;it seems that Justice Alito is prone to throw this law out&#8230;so if NOW and Lifetime Television for Womyn appeal a lower court ruling against the law to the Supreme Court&#8230;the Supreme Court is likely to affirm the ruling.</p>
<p>More can be found at <a href="http://www.imbra.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.imbra.org</a> and <a href="http://www.online-dating-rights.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.online-dating-rights.com</a>.</p>
<p>And then you guys are forgetting the socalled &#8220;Electronic Annoyance Law&#8221; that Bush also cluelessly signed in January. Now you cannot argue with anyone online without the loser saying &#8220;email me once more and I will charge you under the new law that you are annoying me&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am glad I live in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31709</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me or does he look like Abe Vigoda?

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/Biondi.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me or does he look like Abe Vigoda?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/Biondi.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/Biondi.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31708</link>
		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;NJ's Anti-Anonymity Bill To Ash Heap of History?&lt;/strong&gt;

A quick review by the Star Ledger found the bill would violate at least several provisions of federal law, at least one Supreme Court case, and that's before we get to the US Constitution. Buzz Machine has the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>NJ&#8217;s Anti-Anonymity Bill To Ash Heap of History?</strong></p>
<p>A quick review by the Star Ledger found the bill would violate at least several provisions of federal law, at least one Supreme Court case, and that&#8217;s before we get to the US Constitution. Buzz Machine has the details.</p>
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		<title>By: David 2</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31702</link>
		<dc:creator>David 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility?&lt;/i&gt;

It's not about "civility".  It's about power and control.  It's about placating the bruised egos of career politicians and then wrapping it all up under the fraudulent cause of "civility".  People like Biondi want to be able to hunt down these annonymous complainers and harass them into silence instead of using the same forum to answer legtimate questions and complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about &#8220;civility&#8221;.  It&#8217;s about power and control.  It&#8217;s about placating the bruised egos of career politicians and then wrapping it all up under the fraudulent cause of &#8220;civility&#8221;.  People like Biondi want to be able to hunt down these annonymous complainers and harass them into silence instead of using the same forum to answer legtimate questions and complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: 6Gun</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31696</link>
		<dc:creator>6Gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because they can.  Last time I checked, the average, mature, quasi-blue state had approaching a half million laws and statutes on the books.  Undoubtedly, I just broke a bunch.

Who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because they can.  Last time I checked, the average, mature, quasi-blue state had approaching a half million laws and statutes on the books.  Undoubtedly, I just broke a bunch.</p>
<p>Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: 6Gun</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31695</link>
		<dc:creator>6Gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that illegal laws haven't been proposed before.  And passed.

Like water.

If folks wrote statehouses half as much as they did online, even that would completely reform our lovely runaway government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that illegal laws haven&#8217;t been proposed before.  And passed.</p>
<p>Like water.</p>
<p>If folks wrote statehouses half as much as they did online, even that would completely reform our lovely runaway government.</p>
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		<title>By: The Language Artist: Business Blog Consulting &#187; An Army of Davids Debate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Language Artist: Business Blog Consulting &#187; An Army of Davids Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: An Army of Davids in action? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: a reader</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31693</link>
		<dc:creator>a reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biondi said:
"The
intent behind this legislation was to bring some civility back to public
forums, in particular the forums on www.nj.com. As I receive more feedback
from, literally, around the country, it is becoming apparent that the bill
may be too broad in scope and in reality not enforceable."

Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility? I'm tired of knee-jerk reactions seeking to create new laws all the time anytime anything happens. If they feel the need to DO something, why doesn't he -- on his own dime -- start a conversation about "civility"; in the papers, on the forums, in public libraries. Take it on the road, but golly, use common sense and skip the legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biondi said:<br />
&#8220;The<br />
intent behind this legislation was to bring some civility back to public<br />
forums, in particular the forums on <a href="http://www.nj.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com</a>. As I receive more feedback<br />
from, literally, around the country, it is becoming apparent that the bill<br />
may be too broad in scope and in reality not enforceable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it that they feel the need to legislate civility? I&#8217;m tired of knee-jerk reactions seeking to create new laws all the time anytime anything happens. If they feel the need to DO something, why doesn&#8217;t he &#8212; on his own dime &#8212; start a conversation about &#8220;civility&#8221;; in the papers, on the forums, in public libraries. Take it on the road, but golly, use common sense and skip the legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Blaser</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31685</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Blaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response from Biondi's office to my email:

Mr. Blaser,

Thank you for your e-mail.  I understand your concerns with my recently
proposed legislation.  Based on the number of negative responses I have
received about this legislation I have asked the NJ Office of Legislative
Services to prepare an opinion regarding this bill's enforceability and
constitutionality.

I did not draft this bill with intent to limit freedom of speech.  The
intent behind this legislation was to bring some civility back to public
forums, in particular the forums on www.nj.com.  As I receive more feedback
from, literally, around the country, it is becoming apparent that the bill
may be too broad in scope and in reality not enforceable.

As an aside, this bill was only introduced in January.  There have been no
committee hearings regarding this bill and there are none scheduled to my
knowledge.  I am getting inundated with responses which I will review and
use to better educate myself on the implications of this bill.  If, after
reviewing all of the correspondence and the opinion of OLS, it turns out
that the bill is, in fact, unworkable, I will certainly reconsider and
withdraw it.  In other words, this is not something that will happen
overnight.

It is unfortunate, from my perspective, that while my intention here was
civility and respectfulness, it turns out that it may have gone too far.

Thank you again for your e-mail.

Sincerely,

Pete Biondi
Assemblyman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response from Biondi&#8217;s office to my email:</p>
<p>Mr. Blaser,</p>
<p>Thank you for your e-mail.  I understand your concerns with my recently<br />
proposed legislation.  Based on the number of negative responses I have<br />
received about this legislation I have asked the NJ Office of Legislative<br />
Services to prepare an opinion regarding this bill&#8217;s enforceability and<br />
constitutionality.</p>
<p>I did not draft this bill with intent to limit freedom of speech.  The<br />
intent behind this legislation was to bring some civility back to public<br />
forums, in particular the forums on <a href="http://www.nj.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com</a>.  As I receive more feedback<br />
from, literally, around the country, it is becoming apparent that the bill<br />
may be too broad in scope and in reality not enforceable.</p>
<p>As an aside, this bill was only introduced in January.  There have been no<br />
committee hearings regarding this bill and there are none scheduled to my<br />
knowledge.  I am getting inundated with responses which I will review and<br />
use to better educate myself on the implications of this bill.  If, after<br />
reviewing all of the correspondence and the opinion of OLS, it turns out<br />
that the bill is, in fact, unworkable, I will certainly reconsider and<br />
withdraw it.  In other words, this is not something that will happen<br />
overnight.</p>
<p>It is unfortunate, from my perspective, that while my intention here was<br />
civility and respectfulness, it turns out that it may have gone too far.</p>
<p>Thank you again for your e-mail.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Pete Biondi<br />
Assemblyman</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard operating procedure for pols is to sponsor or co-sponsor a piece of legislation that they know won't go anywhere. Then they can point to their support of it when hitting up the appropriate audience for funds.

The Republicans even have this worked down to a science. They call it "catch and release". When a bill is sure to pass they allow various people to vote against it to demostrate their "independence" from the party to the voters back home.

I'm sure a close reading of H.L. Mencken will find that he had a few choice names for this sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard operating procedure for pols is to sponsor or co-sponsor a piece of legislation that they know won&#8217;t go anywhere. Then they can point to their support of it when hitting up the appropriate audience for funds.</p>
<p>The Republicans even have this worked down to a science. They call it &#8220;catch and release&#8221;. When a bill is sure to pass they allow various people to vote against it to demostrate their &#8220;independence&#8221; from the party to the voters back home.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure a close reading of H.L. Mencken will find that he had a few choice names for this sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Those NJ.com forums</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31682</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Those NJ.com forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am damned proud to have started the forums that caused New Jersey Assemblyman Peter Biondi to propose the stupidest legislation in memory (well, at least since Raritan, NJ, tried to outlaw cursing). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am damned proud to have started the forums that caused New Jersey Assemblyman Peter Biondi to propose the stupidest legislation in memory (well, at least since Raritan, NJ, tried to outlaw cursing). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David 2</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31678</link>
		<dc:creator>David 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historical fact: The Federalist Papers, the 85 articles that were published starting in 1787 and served as the primary explination of and advocacy for the US Constitution, would have been illegal if people like Peter Biondi had their way, because it was published annonymously.

By the way, Jeff... I wish you well in your quest to get that thug voted out of office.  By all means, campaign loud and campaign hard to get rid of him.  And please don't let people get away with saying "well, the courts will just throw it out anyway"... &lt;a href="http://bellsouthpwp2.net/d/_/d_matthews2/archive/05bh07.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;because they WON'T!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historical fact: The Federalist Papers, the 85 articles that were published starting in 1787 and served as the primary explination of and advocacy for the US Constitution, would have been illegal if people like Peter Biondi had their way, because it was published annonymously.</p>
<p>By the way, Jeff&#8230; I wish you well in your quest to get that thug voted out of office.  By all means, campaign loud and campaign hard to get rid of him.  And please don&#8217;t let people get away with saying &#8220;well, the courts will just throw it out anyway&#8221;&#8230; <a href="http://bellsouthpwp2.net/d/_/d_matthews2/archive/05bh07.htm" rel="nofollow">because they WON&#8217;T!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Easycure</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/07/njs-dumb-bill-on-anonymity/#comment-31677</link>
		<dc:creator>Easycure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should plainly pointed out that this type of governing cannot be tolerated by the public no matter which side of the aisle it originates. We must stand together to protect our Constitutional rights -- it's obvious our legislators are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should plainly pointed out that this type of governing cannot be tolerated by the public no matter which side of the aisle it originates. We must stand together to protect our Constitutional rights &#8212; it&#8217;s obvious our legislators are not.</p>
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