Comments on: Lesson No. 1 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:43:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: kenjimori.com » Japan’s NHK blog goes live with its live TV show http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33389 kenjimori.com » Japan’s NHK blog goes live with its live TV show Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33389 [...] For the trackback link, it is still understandable to show this alert even if NHK seems to check the contents before the approval. However, for the link to another external page, which is made by NHK themselves, it is hardly understandable and even resentful; since rather than showing such an alert, they can simply write whatever they think about the contents, to which they are miking a link, and why.  I hope they will learn from a good predeseesors overseas such as the Guadian’s Georgina Henry (via BuzzMachine), who also expressed her fear of losing the control of the contents. technorati tags: MSM NHK blog media ブログ [...] [...] For the trackback link, it is still understandable to show this alert even if NHK seems to check the contents before the approval. However, for the link to another external page, which is made by NHK themselves, it is hardly understandable and even resentful; since rather than showing such an alert, they can simply write whatever they think about the contents, to which they are miking a link, and why.  I hope they will learn from a good predeseesors overseas such as the Guadian’s Georgina Henry (via BuzzMachine), who also expressed her fear of losing the control of the contents. technorati tags: MSM NHK blog media ブログ [...]

]]> By: Neil McIntosh http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33209 Neil McIntosh Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:24:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33209 Sally - it was my call to impose registration for commentisfree, based on our experiences with our other blogs (which do not require any registration, or even a valid email address). We found the no-reg option worked well until we hit a certain level of traffic. Then the trolls took over. I'm glad you find the reg reasonably lightweight in terms of hassle... I think the discussion on the blog is a little better as a result. Time will tell... Sally – it was my call to impose registration for commentisfree, based on our experiences with our other blogs (which do not require any registration, or even a valid email address). We found the no-reg option worked well until we hit a certain level of traffic. Then the trolls took over. I’m glad you find the reg reasonably lightweight in terms of hassle… I think the discussion on the blog is a little better as a result. Time will tell…

]]> By: ashok http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33013 ashok Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:44:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-33013 I thought that discussion we were having in the Iraq post was halfway decent. I also like the fight that I'm having with some people at <a href="http://www.bookninja.com/?p=432" rel="nofollow">Bookninja</a>. Looks like I'll have to fake registration for the Guardian to see these excellent blogs. I hope <a href="http://www.bugmenot.com/" rel="nofollow">bugmenot</a> works. Mr. Jarvis, I should say this: it's fine to be a hypocrite. Moral purity can only be demanded of the young, who are innocent because they need not get their hands dirty in business or politics, those things which make the world run. Anyone who wants to treat people well and stand for something and get stuff done is going to be a hypocrite - it's the inevitable consequence of wanting to live well and for others. I thought that discussion we were having in the Iraq post was halfway decent. I also like the fight that I’m having with some people at Bookninja.

Looks like I’ll have to fake registration for the Guardian to see these excellent blogs. I hope bugmenot works.

Mr. Jarvis, I should say this: it’s fine to be a hypocrite. Moral purity can only be demanded of the young, who are innocent because they need not get their hands dirty in business or politics, those things which make the world run. Anyone who wants to treat people well and stand for something and get stuff done is going to be a hypocrite – it’s the inevitable consequence of wanting to live well and for others.

]]> By: Sally Maiser http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32986 Sally Maiser Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:45:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32986 I regret I jumped the gun. Looks like they only require an email address and country location (postal code too but only if you live in US or UK), which all could be faked so I guess it's not really a big deal. I'm sorry for speaking without fully investigating first. I guess that's the blogger in me! :) I regret I jumped the gun. Looks like they only require an email address and country location (postal code too but only if you live in US or UK), which all could be faked so I guess it’s not really a big deal. I’m sorry for speaking without fully investigating first. I guess that’s the blogger in me! :)

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32984 Jeff Jarvis Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:10:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32984 Sally: Everybody does commenting and registration differently. Don't forget that most newspapers out there still don't allow any commenting. So I will take whatever steps in the right direction that I see. I, too, don't like walls. But to be honest, I will say that sometimes where I see walls, I do see a higher quality of discourse. I don't want to believe that there is a connection and I won't accept that there is yet, but I have to be open to the possibility and watch with interest. Is the discussion on Guardian forums more interesting to me because the sparks of conversation are also interesting or because of registration. I certainly hope and still believe it's the former. I didn't go through the process at CommFree (as one of my commenters there called it) because I'm a Guardian columnist (see my full disclosures) and so I was registered via that. I don't know how much they require. Sally: Everybody does commenting and registration differently. Don’t forget that most newspapers out there still don’t allow any commenting. So I will take whatever steps in the right direction that I see. I, too, don’t like walls. But to be honest, I will say that sometimes where I see walls, I do see a higher quality of discourse. I don’t want to believe that there is a connection and I won’t accept that there is yet, but I have to be open to the possibility and watch with interest. Is the discussion on Guardian forums more interesting to me because the sparks of conversation are also interesting or because of registration. I certainly hope and still believe it’s the former. I didn’t go through the process at CommFree (as one of my commenters there called it) because I’m a Guardian columnist (see my full disclosures) and so I was registered via that. I don’t know how much they require.

]]> By: Sally Maiser http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32983 Sally Maiser Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:52:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32983 <i>Please note: In order to post a comment you need to be registered and signed in for Guardian Unlimited blogs.</i> That's incredibly ironic for a blog called "Comment is Free" when it is anything but that. Free "registration" is NOT free because I have to hand over info about me. Call me a privacy hound but guess what? Fuck you very much. Mr. Jarvis, you have to be the most hypocritical person in the blogosphere to go along with this crap. Did you not blast the Washington Post for their handling of a comment situation gone out of control where there was not a trace of quality in the discourse? WaPo didn't then (and doesn't now) require registration for commenting. You even balked at the suggestion that WaPo should start requiring registration to maintain some level of civility because "of the speed bump of having to register." How come you didn't consult the Guardian on this crucial point? Commenting SHOULD be free and I wish the Guardian (AND HuffPo for that matter) would get their act together and stop putting up walls. Please note: In order to post a comment you need to be registered and signed in for Guardian Unlimited blogs.

That’s incredibly ironic for a blog called “Comment is Free” when it is anything but that. Free “registration” is NOT free because I have to hand over info about me. Call me a privacy hound but guess what? Fuck you very much.

Mr. Jarvis, you have to be the most hypocritical person in the blogosphere to go along with this crap. Did you not blast the Washington Post for their handling of a comment situation gone out of control where there was not a trace of quality in the discourse? WaPo didn’t then (and doesn’t now) require registration for commenting. You even balked at the suggestion that WaPo should start requiring registration to maintain some level of civility because “of the speed bump of having to register.” How come you didn’t consult the Guardian on this crucial point?

Commenting SHOULD be free and I wish the Guardian (AND HuffPo for that matter) would get their act together and stop putting up walls.

]]> By: Andrew Careaga http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32979 Andrew Careaga Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:23:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32979 It's an interesting blog, and I see that you're among the contributors. AC It’s an interesting blog, and I see that you’re among the contributors.

AC

]]> By: Atul http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32976 Atul Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:11:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/03/18/lesson-no-1/#comment-32976 Yes, As a relatively new blogger, it is interesting to see who pops in, but aside from some spam comments, I have had nothing but good contributions to the discussions. With random topics like I have, the only commenters I can count on are the ones in the Roundtable that I'm a part of. Yes,

As a relatively new blogger, it is interesting to see who pops in, but aside from some spam comments, I have had nothing but good contributions to the discussions. With random topics like I have, the only commenters I can count on are the ones in the Roundtable that I’m a part of.

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