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	<title>Comments on: The means of marketing</title>
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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-34009</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link is:

http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/03/pinko-marketing.html

or you could go to the wiki and add your own!

http://www.pinkomarketing.com

(please do...like pinko, it&#039;s a collaborative, community effort)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/03/pinko-marketing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.horsepigcow.com/2006/03/pinko-marketing.html</a></p>
<p>or you could go to the wiki and add your own!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pinkomarketing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pinkomarketing.com</a></p>
<p>(please do&#8230;like pinko, it&#8217;s a collaborative, community effort)</p>
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		<title>By: Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33887</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Perry - Well, being the &#039;guy&#039; who wrote this...I&#039;m not sure that there is a connection between what is happening right now with the rise of the &#039;consumer&#039; voice and North Korea. You and I have a voice in the marketplace that is louder than ever. As a marketing professional, I am saying to recognize that and get out of the way, allowing that voice to lead the future of business. I don&#039;t think you should get hung up on political history. ;)

@ Jeff...thanks for the hat tip. The link is a little wonky, though. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Perry &#8211; Well, being the &#8216;guy&#8217; who wrote this&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure that there is a connection between what is happening right now with the rise of the &#8216;consumer&#8217; voice and North Korea. You and I have a voice in the marketplace that is louder than ever. As a marketing professional, I am saying to recognize that and get out of the way, allowing that voice to lead the future of business. I don&#8217;t think you should get hung up on political history. <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Jeff&#8230;thanks for the hat tip. The link is a little wonky, though. <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Perry de Havilland</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33680</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry de Havilland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;The commonsâ€¦the producersâ€¦will decide what makes it â€˜to marketâ€™, what flourishes, what dies, what is ignored, what is celebratedâ€¦whatever&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What does that actually mean, if anything?  Are the management not &#039;producers&#039;?  or are is the code monkey the only &#039;common&#039; here in our digital age?  Some of these points make sence (I think) but the only think &#039;commie&#039; about this is the way it murders language and meaning.  The guy who wrote this should live in North Korea for a few years before using the word &#039;commie&#039; ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The commonsâ€¦the producersâ€¦will decide what makes it â€˜to marketâ€™, what flourishes, what dies, what is ignored, what is celebratedâ€¦whatever&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>What does that actually mean, if anything?  Are the management not &#8216;producers&#8217;?  or are is the code monkey the only &#8216;common&#8217; here in our digital age?  Some of these points make sence (I think) but the only think &#8216;commie&#8217; about this is the way it murders language and meaning.  The guy who wrote this should live in North Korea for a few years before using the word &#8216;commie&#8217; ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: Safran</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33485</link>
		<dc:creator>Safran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute, but it&#039;s not Communism. &lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s free market capitalism&lt;/strong&gt; at its strongest. 

The internet is a means by which the &quot;proletariat&quot; can quickly &lt;i&gt;become&lt;/i&gt; the bourgeoisie instead of overthrowing it. Instead of the zero-sum world that Marx imagined, everyone rises. Every efficiency the web creates means a better marketplace as a whole. 

Marx wanted to convert capital into common property. If anyone here wants to give their money to me, I&#039;m open to it. But I don&#039;t see it happening.

This manifesto is really a tip of the cap to Ayn Rand, not Karl Marx. He&#039;d be appalled by all the proletariat jobs its has killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute, but it&#8217;s not Communism. <strong>It&#8217;s free market capitalism</strong> at its strongest. </p>
<p>The internet is a means by which the &#8220;proletariat&#8221; can quickly <i>become</i> the bourgeoisie instead of overthrowing it. Instead of the zero-sum world that Marx imagined, everyone rises. Every efficiency the web creates means a better marketplace as a whole. </p>
<p>Marx wanted to convert capital into common property. If anyone here wants to give their money to me, I&#8217;m open to it. But I don&#8217;t see it happening.</p>
<p>This manifesto is really a tip of the cap to Ayn Rand, not Karl Marx. He&#8217;d be appalled by all the proletariat jobs its has killed.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tolles</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33473</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Tolles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, you should really define marketing, before you go and re-define it.

Marketing is the construction of demand.  

Good marketing creates demand for products -- it&#039;s easiest when the products are good, and harder when they aren&#039;t.  it&#039;s not like anything this guy is saying is wrong -- there&#039;s some insight here especially around the idea that the &quot;insiders&quot; are lagging the masses on some things.

In particular his point about marketing budget not changing your advantage is very interesting -- however, if you went back and read Al Reis, you&#039;d see little has changed in 30 years (really).  First success has to be PR driven (and achieve actual takeoff from usage).  After that, advertising, in fact does matter.  Sure -- great products can take off with little marketing spend - but keeping things going after a certain point takes money and scale.

Also, this idea that we&#039;re all sick of being marketed to is just BS.  The iPod&#039;s marketing is slicker than slick.  Classic big spend product marketing.  And it works.  And, it was led by urban &quot;elites&quot; and thought leaders, and has pushed into the mass market.

Friendster took off on the coasts, and bounced around the middle before being one-upped by mySpace and thefacebook (launched at harvard)....again, early adopter moving to mass market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, you should really define marketing, before you go and re-define it.</p>
<p>Marketing is the construction of demand.  </p>
<p>Good marketing creates demand for products &#8212; it&#8217;s easiest when the products are good, and harder when they aren&#8217;t.  it&#8217;s not like anything this guy is saying is wrong &#8212; there&#8217;s some insight here especially around the idea that the &#8220;insiders&#8221; are lagging the masses on some things.</p>
<p>In particular his point about marketing budget not changing your advantage is very interesting &#8212; however, if you went back and read Al Reis, you&#8217;d see little has changed in 30 years (really).  First success has to be PR driven (and achieve actual takeoff from usage).  After that, advertising, in fact does matter.  Sure &#8212; great products can take off with little marketing spend &#8211; but keeping things going after a certain point takes money and scale.</p>
<p>Also, this idea that we&#8217;re all sick of being marketed to is just BS.  The iPod&#8217;s marketing is slicker than slick.  Classic big spend product marketing.  And it works.  And, it was led by urban &#8220;elites&#8221; and thought leaders, and has pushed into the mass market.</p>
<p>Friendster took off on the coasts, and bounced around the middle before being one-upped by mySpace and thefacebook (launched at harvard)&#8230;.again, early adopter moving to mass market.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33400</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, an awful lot of that stuff has &lt;i&gt; always &lt;/i&gt; been true . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, an awful lot of that stuff has <i> always </i> been true . . .</p>
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		<title>By: UNCoRRELATED</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/21/the-means-of-marketing/#comment-33397</link>
		<dc:creator>UNCoRRELATED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Gore Pulls a Condi&lt;/strong&gt;

Al Gore told a Tennessee audience yesterday that he wasn&#039;t running for president. ``I&#039;m not planning to be a candidate again. I haven&#039;t reached a stage in my life where I&#039;m willing to say I will never consider something like this. But I&#039;m not sayi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Gore Pulls a Condi</strong></p>
<p>Al Gore told a Tennessee audience yesterday that he wasn&#8217;t running for president. &#8220;I&#8217;m not planning to be a candidate again. I haven&#8217;t reached a stage in my life where I&#8217;m willing to say I will never consider something like this. But I&#8217;m not sayi&#8230;</p>
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