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	<title>Comments on: In defense of bullshit</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Google Reader Share: ???????????????????? &#171; Kailai&#39;s Lifestream</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-463812</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Reader Share: ???????????????????? &#171; Kailai&#39;s Lifestream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ?????????Twitter ?????? #fuckyouwashington tweets ????????????????????????????????????????? FCC ? bullshit ???? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is the FCC&#8217;s &#8220;bullshit&#8221; receding?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-456046</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the FCC&#8217;s &#8220;bullshit&#8221; receding?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see (or listen to) Bob Garfield&#8217;s good analysis on On The Media and Jeff Jarvis&#8217;s &#8220;In defense of bullshit&#8221; post on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: In defence of bullshit &#124; REALJimBob.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-421292</link>
		<dc:creator>In defence of bullshit &#124; REALJimBob.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is good, we like bullshit. Buzz Machine speaks in defense of bullshit after the FCC announces that &#8220;bullshit&#8221; (that&#8217;s 5 mentions so far in this post) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is good, we like bullshit. Buzz Machine speaks in defense of bullshit after the FCC announces that &#8220;bullshit&#8221; (that&#8217;s 5 mentions so far in this post) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bankruptcy Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-407297</link>
		<dc:creator>Bankruptcy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some valuable information, I just  wrapped up my paper for school and think i may need to bookmark or save this for the second class lol. You may have just made me a regular :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some valuable information, I just  wrapped up my paper for school and think i may need to bookmark or save this for the second class lol. You may have just made me a regular <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: plainspoken from Down Under &#171; infotainment still rules</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-396649</link>
		<dc:creator>plainspoken from Down Under &#171; infotainment still rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that the word “bullshit” isn’t allowed on television (the debate is currently raging on BuzzMachine): You Americans are wonderful, generous people as individuals. But the double standards of your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Bullshit Awards Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer Reading List - The Bullshit Awards</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-378139</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bullshit Awards Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Summer Reading List - The Bullshit Awards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMaching - In Defense of Bullshit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yet another reason developping why the one day without posting boycott &#171; Lelapin&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-371827</link>
		<dc:creator>Yet another reason developping why the one day without posting boycott &#171; Lelapin&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the site easier. And right below that are the hundreds and hundreds of Livejournal users calling bullshit - bullshit that the change is intended to do anything other than generate more ad impressions for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the site easier. And right below that are the hundreds and hundreds of Livejournal users calling bullshit &#8211; bullshit that the change is intended to do anything other than generate more ad impressions for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The National Geographic rule</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-133617</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The National Geographic rule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hmmmm. Breasts bad: see Janet Jackson. Black women&#8217;s breasts thus bad. White people cursing OK. Black people cursing bad. What to do? What to do? The BBC decided to take the risk, believing that their nudity was certainly in context. If it works for National Geographic&#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hmmmm. Breasts bad: see Janet Jackson. Black women&#8217;s breasts thus bad. White people cursing OK. Black people cursing bad. What to do? What to do? The BBC decided to take the risk, believing that their nudity was certainly in context. If it works for National Geographic&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t read my lips</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-93883</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t read my lips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, how I wish that just one station in this nation would have aired George Bush&#8217;s &#8220;shit&#8221; so that the FCC could fine them &#8212; or so that the FCC would not and we&#8217;d have standing to bring a civil rights suit against them for allowing his shit but disallowing ours. (See my defense of bullshit.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, how I wish that just one station in this nation would have aired George Bush&#8217;s &#8220;shit&#8221; so that the FCC could fine them &#8212; or so that the FCC would not and we&#8217;d have standing to bring a civil rights suit against them for allowing his shit but disallowing ours. (See my defense of bullshit.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To BS or not to BS, that is the question</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-86110</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; To BS or not to BS, that is the question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 10:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The FCC has asked a federal court to delay action by three network affiliates appealing a recent indecency order so it can hear the affiliates&#8217; arguments and reconsider the case. The ABC, NBC, and CBS affiliates concurred; Fox&#8217;s stations did not. I need an attorney with experience here to explain what this means. Should we smell a rat? The FCC has studiously avoided court tests of its indecency rulings and I wonder whether this is another effort to sidestep the Constitutional challenge that is inevitable. I still want to take the FCC to court in defense of bullshit. ACLU, networks, political groups, anybody want to help? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The FCC has asked a federal court to delay action by three network affiliates appealing a recent indecency order so it can hear the affiliates&#8217; arguments and reconsider the case. The ABC, NBC, and CBS affiliates concurred; Fox&#8217;s stations did not. I need an attorney with experience here to explain what this means. Should we smell a rat? The FCC has studiously avoided court tests of its indecency rulings and I wonder whether this is another effort to sidestep the Constitutional challenge that is inevitable. I still want to take the FCC to court in defense of bullshit. ACLU, networks, political groups, anybody want to help? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 113th Street &#187; Bullshit</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-75730</link>
		<dc:creator>113th Street &#187; Bullshit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] words of philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt, bullshit.  The New York Times is no better. When Another Bullshit Night in Suck City  was on their bestseller list, they wouldnâ€™t print the word&#8220;bullshit&#8221; or &#8220;suck,&#8221; yet they gave a prominent review to a memoir about anal sex. What is wrong with our society? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] words of philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt, bullshit.  The New York Times is no better. When Another Bullshit Night in Suck City  was on their bestseller list, they wouldnâ€™t print the word&#8220;bullshit&#8221; or &#8220;suck,&#8221; yet they gave a prominent review to a memoir about anal sex. What is wrong with our society? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George Arndt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-54028</link>
		<dc:creator>George Arndt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 21:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From now on, if someone wants to see indecent material, they will go to the internet, cable, watch a movie in the theatre or on DVD, or look at some magazines. This legislation is not only heavy handed, its ultimatly pointless..

 Besides, when Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on homosexuals, femanists and liberals, I thought THAT was pretty obscene!
 I mean, who gets to decides whatâ€™s obscene, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From now on, if someone wants to see indecent material, they will go to the internet, cable, watch a movie in the theatre or on DVD, or look at some magazines. This legislation is not only heavy handed, its ultimatly pointless..</p>
<p> Besides, when Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on homosexuals, femanists and liberals, I thought THAT was pretty obscene!<br />
 I mean, who gets to decides whatâ€™s obscene, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Save our speech: We need FirstAid</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-50570</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Save our speech: We need FirstAid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 20:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, if you are on live TV and you say &#8220;Bush&#8217;s war is bullshit,&#8221; every station that airs it will be fined and you, too, can now be fined if this bill is signed into law, fined into bankruptcy and chilled into silence. This is bullshit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, if you are on live TV and you say &#8220;Bush&#8217;s war is bullshit,&#8221; every station that airs it will be fined and you, too, can now be fined if this bill is signed into law, fined into bankruptcy and chilled into silence. This is bullshit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Iowa City International Pop Festival &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is bullshit</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-48423</link>
		<dc:creator>The Iowa City International Pop Festival &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is bullshit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 07:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our late MD passed along a couple bullshit gems stemming from a March episode of On the Media. The word &quot;bullshit&quot; has been added to the FCC&#039;s (non-existent) list of things not to say on the air. Jeff Jarvis argues that bullshit is a necessary term for political expression (e.g. &quot;The war in Iraq is bullshit&quot;), while most of the FCC commissioners think it&#039;s a reference to excrement. The old saw I employed in guessing what might pass FCC muster was if the word is used literally (&quot;He took a shit&quot;) it&#039;s certifiably indecent, but if it was used in a non-literal manner (&quot;You look like shit&quot;) you were in the clear. After Bono&#039;s &quot;Fucking brilliant&quot; acceptance speech at the Golden Globes, the FCC issued a statement confirming my belief. &quot;As a threshold matter, the material aired during the &quot;Golden Globe Awards&quot; program does not describe or depict sexual and excretory activities and organs. The word &quot;fucking&quot; may be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory organs or activities. Rather, the performer used the word &quot;fucking&quot; as an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation. Indeed, in similar circumstances, we have found that offensive language used as an insult rather than as a description of sexual or excretory activity or organs is not within the scope of the Commission&#039;s prohibition of indecent program content.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our late MD passed along a couple bullshit gems stemming from a March episode of On the Media. The word &quot;bullshit&quot; has been added to the FCC&#39;s (non-existent) list of things not to say on the air. Jeff Jarvis argues that bullshit is a necessary term for political expression (e.g. &quot;The war in Iraq is bullshit&quot;), while most of the FCC commissioners think it&#39;s a reference to excrement. The old saw I employed in guessing what might pass FCC muster was if the word is used literally (&quot;He took a shit&quot;) it&#39;s certifiably indecent, but if it was used in a non-literal manner (&quot;You look like shit&quot;) you were in the clear. After Bono&#39;s &quot;Fucking brilliant&quot; acceptance speech at the Golden Globes, the FCC issued a statement confirming my belief. &quot;As a threshold matter, the material aired during the &quot;Golden Globe Awards&quot; program does not describe or depict sexual and excretory activities and organs. The word &quot;fucking&quot; may be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory organs or activities. Rather, the performer used the word &quot;fucking&quot; as an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation. Indeed, in similar circumstances, we have found that offensive language used as an insult rather than as a description of sexual or excretory activity or organs is not within the scope of the Commission&#39;s prohibition of indecent program content.&quot; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-38623</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what you think about the utility or legitimacy of the word &quot;bullshit&quot; in political discussion, the very simple and important point is that it should not be the job of a government commission to make this judgment. Some people thought this point important enough that they included it first, in very clear language, among some rights enumerated at the founding of the republic. 

An FCC that makes rules about media content is an odd artifact of a disappearing technological circumstance where broadcast communications reached people only though a few channels by means of a public resource -- radio spectrum -- allocated by the government. With that questionable justification effectively gone in this time of media proliferation, so too is the charter for FCC&#039;s regulation of content.

Though people may argue that continuing these restrictions on speech is necessary to protect children, whether or not a dirty word is said on TV let alone that a child might accidentally hear it is completely insignificant. If children could only be protected from things by force of government, protecting them from isolated words would be much less important than protecting them from the more dangerous complete sentence and the insidious whole idea. And we would first target ideas like those that brushed aside the fundamental principles of our nation with some made up scenario about weird pornography. Then with the airwaves sanitized, if nipples and curse words remained to torment our children we could consider completely eliminating the point at which these things enter the home, banning both mothers, and fathers with hammers and thumbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what you think about the utility or legitimacy of the word &#8220;bullshit&#8221; in political discussion, the very simple and important point is that it should not be the job of a government commission to make this judgment. Some people thought this point important enough that they included it first, in very clear language, among some rights enumerated at the founding of the republic. </p>
<p>An FCC that makes rules about media content is an odd artifact of a disappearing technological circumstance where broadcast communications reached people only though a few channels by means of a public resource &#8212; radio spectrum &#8212; allocated by the government. With that questionable justification effectively gone in this time of media proliferation, so too is the charter for FCC&#8217;s regulation of content.</p>
<p>Though people may argue that continuing these restrictions on speech is necessary to protect children, whether or not a dirty word is said on TV let alone that a child might accidentally hear it is completely insignificant. If children could only be protected from things by force of government, protecting them from isolated words would be much less important than protecting them from the more dangerous complete sentence and the insidious whole idea. And we would first target ideas like those that brushed aside the fundamental principles of our nation with some made up scenario about weird pornography. Then with the airwaves sanitized, if nipples and curse words remained to torment our children we could consider completely eliminating the point at which these things enter the home, banning both mothers, and fathers with hammers and thumbs.</p>
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		<title>By: tikifire.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-37716</link>
		<dc:creator>tikifire.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-04-03 at Zerolives.org</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-35518</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2006-04-03 at Zerolives.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» In defense of bullshit Jeff Jarvis sticks it to the FCC, who just decided that our virginal American ears are far too sensitive to hear the term &#8216;bullshit&#8217;. (tags: language politics) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Have Coffee Will Write &#187; CALLING BULLSHIT&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-35022</link>
		<dc:creator>Have Coffee Will Write &#187; CALLING BULLSHIT&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I know how to curse like, well, a sailor. But I don&#8217;t do it that often because I think foul language quickly loses its power when you it is used to make mundane speech seem spicy or edgy. But sometimes that bit of profanity is the only thing that works. Jeff Jarvis feels the same way in the wake of the latest bit of Federal Communications Commission idiocy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I know how to curse like, well, a sailor. But I don&#8217;t do it that often because I think foul language quickly loses its power when you it is used to make mundane speech seem spicy or edgy. But sometimes that bit of profanity is the only thing that works. Jeff Jarvis feels the same way in the wake of the latest bit of Federal Communications Commission idiocy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34975</link>
		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all that many years ago, an American dictionary (&lt;i&gt;American Heritage&lt;/i&gt;, maybe?) actually included &quot;bullshit,&quot; as a noun: it was defined as &quot;nonsense.&quot;

Which prompted this from David Brenner: &quot;Defining &#039;bullshit&#039; as nonsense is bullshit.&quot;

As they say in the Porsche ads, &quot;There is no substitute.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all that many years ago, an American dictionary (<i>American Heritage</i>, maybe?) actually included &#8220;bullshit,&#8221; as a noun: it was defined as &#8220;nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which prompted this from David Brenner: &#8220;Defining &#8216;bullshit&#8217; as nonsense is bullshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>As they say in the Porsche ads, &#8220;There is no substitute.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: qcontent</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34942</link>
		<dc:creator>qcontent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottomline, the fate of Bullshit, is somehow related to, or a result of George W. Bushit. His fingerprints are all over this stench.</description>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34936</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised there&#039;s been no mention of Penn &amp; Teller&#039;s excellent TV series, running on Showtime, which not only frequently uses but is actually &lt;i&gt;called&lt;/i&gt; &quot;Bullshit&quot;.

Yes, Showtime, a national TV network, is sending a program into the homes of millions and millions of viewers, a show whose very &lt;i&gt;title&lt;/i&gt; is &quot;so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance,&quot; and yet I haven&#039;t heard of anyone rioting or setting fires or even forgodsake &lt;i&gt;cancelling their Showtime subscriptions.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m in total agreement, Jeff; the FCC should be stopped.  And you might want to ask Penn &amp; Teller if they&#039;ll kick in some support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised there&#8217;s been no mention of Penn &amp; Teller&#8217;s excellent TV series, running on Showtime, which not only frequently uses but is actually <i>called</i> &#8220;Bullshit&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes, Showtime, a national TV network, is sending a program into the homes of millions and millions of viewers, a show whose very <i>title</i> is &#8220;so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance,&#8221; and yet I haven&#8217;t heard of anyone rioting or setting fires or even forgodsake <i>cancelling their Showtime subscriptions.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m in total agreement, Jeff; the FCC should be stopped.  And you might want to ask Penn &amp; Teller if they&#8217;ll kick in some support.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34933</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit!  and for  good measure, nigger and kike!  And wop, too.  And spic.  And black faun (which, translated into Norwegian, is about the worst thing you can say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit!  and for  good measure, nigger and kike!  And wop, too.  And spic.  And black faun (which, translated into Norwegian, is about the worst thing you can say).</p>
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		<title>By: think mojo &#187; Watching MY language</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34901</link>
		<dc:creator>think mojo &#187; Watching MY language</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For the last couple of days we&#8217;ve had Jeff Jarvis railing against the FCC - seems you can&#8217;t say bullshit anymore. Dickhead, apparently, isÂ fine, but bullshit is just not on. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For the last couple of days we&#8217;ve had Jeff Jarvis railing against the FCC &#8211; seems you can&#8217;t say bullshit anymore. Dickhead, apparently, isÂ fine, but bullshit is just not on. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In defense of bullshit</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34870</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In defense of bullshit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A commenter to my defense of bullshit on Huffington Post reminds us that when he ran for President in 1992, Sen. Tom Harkin was quoted by NBC&#8217;s Andrew Mitchell on TV news saying: â€œGeorge Bush and his fat-cat Republican friends say they are building a Conservative Opportunity Society. I&#8217;ve got a one word reply: Bullshit.â€ That is certainly political speech. But today, it would be censored or fined: NBC, the network, every station airing it, Harkin himself, and Mitchell if she repeated it. Politicians should be free to call bullshit. So should reporters. So should we. And we should be free to hear it. But not under the rule of the FCC, we&#8217;re not. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A commenter to my defense of bullshit on Huffington Post reminds us that when he ran for President in 1992, Sen. Tom Harkin was quoted by NBC&#8217;s Andrew Mitchell on TV news saying: â€œGeorge Bush and his fat-cat Republican friends say they are building a Conservative Opportunity Society. I&#8217;ve got a one word reply: Bullshit.â€ That is certainly political speech. But today, it would be censored or fined: NBC, the network, every station airing it, Harkin himself, and Mitchell if she repeated it. Politicians should be free to call bullshit. So should reporters. So should we. And we should be free to hear it. But not under the rule of the FCC, we&#8217;re not. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carson Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/03/28/in-defense-of-bullshit/#comment-34844</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: &lt;i&gt;That is the point of this post. I have the faith in the marketplace â€” which is to say, the citizenry: you, you, and you â€” that TV will not turn into beasiality; we the viewers would not tolerate that and advertisers would not support that and network exectutives protecting their brands, stock prices, and jobs would not air it. For Godâ€™s sake, look at the fuss over one not-quite-naked nipple: CBS is never doing that again.&lt;/i&gt;

Most normal people would not tolerate beastiality, and yet it exists on the internet sans enforcement. I&#039;m pretty sure CBS wouldn&#039;t throw their reputation away, but without the FCC, what&#039;s to stop some independent station in a local market to switch to BEAST-TV? Why would consumer outcry matter if they figure out some way of making money from a pervert base? I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a slippery slope argument, either; with no regulation whatsoever, there&#039;s no reason why some stations shouldn&#039;t start airing outright pornography 24/7. Not a slope: the day the FCC shuts down. And that will be a very rough day for people who have TVs and children.

Your argument concerning Janet Jackson I think contradicts much of what you&#039;ve said in the past. Isn&#039;t that one of the primo situations that you&#039;ve objected to all this time? People protestd, but it was the FCC that put the muscle and the hurt on the networks *because* of the protests -- and if I remember right, you complained at the time that the family organizations hyped objections -- and yet you use the boobage here as an example of how the marketplace takes the *place* of the FCC. I don&#039;t see how that follows.

Much of the other objections from others here are about the unevenness of enforcement: this word vs that word, vulgarity vs racism, different languages. The funniest objection is vulgarity vs racism: &quot;bwah! FCC bans bullshit but not ni**er!&quot; -- the n-word and other racial epithets bothers me more than vulgarity, too (emotion!) but arguably (reason) racial epithets are more closely related to *political speech* than simply saying bullshit, tits, or even semprini. So this objection actually reveals even more childish hypocrisy in this complaint. You aren&#039;t out for political freedom; you want to be able to cuss on TV.

The problem with all of those objections, though, is that unevenness of enforcement has absolutely nothing to do with whether there should or shouldn&#039;t be FCC oversight. The FCC doesn&#039;t exist to please college students or media experts, it exists to police the public airwaves for familes at large. So &quot;unevenness&quot; isn&#039;t an argument for abolishing the FCC, it&#039;s just bitching about the FCC.

Hope I&#039;m not sounding too mean -- these are friendly arguments, even if put forcefully. I think there&#039;s actually some common ground that could be found between conservatives and liberals on reforming the FCC, but calling for huge shifts like this only begs for polarization. You&#039;re asking the nation to suddenly accept opening the network standards wider than they ever have been, and I think you&#039;ll really need a better reason for doing so than simply saying that &quot;everybody&quot; says bullshit.

One more thing... just an observation, not an argument... &quot;bullshit&quot; makes for *crappy* political speech (pardon the word &quot;crap&quot;). It makes the owner of a pathetic and weak argument feel and act like he&#039;s won a debate, simply because he shouts out like a teenager. The person who &quot;calls bullshit&quot; loses the argument the second they say the word, even faster than if they say &quot;Hitler&quot;. If I weren&#039;t in danger of falling into the same trap myself, I would be tempted to say here that I&#039;m calling bullshit on calling bullshit. If you can&#039;t debate without bullshit, all it proves is that you are *full* of bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: <i>That is the point of this post. I have the faith in the marketplace â€” which is to say, the citizenry: you, you, and you â€” that TV will not turn into beasiality; we the viewers would not tolerate that and advertisers would not support that and network exectutives protecting their brands, stock prices, and jobs would not air it. For Godâ€™s sake, look at the fuss over one not-quite-naked nipple: CBS is never doing that again.</i></p>
<p>Most normal people would not tolerate beastiality, and yet it exists on the internet sans enforcement. I&#8217;m pretty sure CBS wouldn&#8217;t throw their reputation away, but without the FCC, what&#8217;s to stop some independent station in a local market to switch to BEAST-TV? Why would consumer outcry matter if they figure out some way of making money from a pervert base? I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a slippery slope argument, either; with no regulation whatsoever, there&#8217;s no reason why some stations shouldn&#8217;t start airing outright pornography 24/7. Not a slope: the day the FCC shuts down. And that will be a very rough day for people who have TVs and children.</p>
<p>Your argument concerning Janet Jackson I think contradicts much of what you&#8217;ve said in the past. Isn&#8217;t that one of the primo situations that you&#8217;ve objected to all this time? People protestd, but it was the FCC that put the muscle and the hurt on the networks *because* of the protests &#8212; and if I remember right, you complained at the time that the family organizations hyped objections &#8212; and yet you use the boobage here as an example of how the marketplace takes the *place* of the FCC. I don&#8217;t see how that follows.</p>
<p>Much of the other objections from others here are about the unevenness of enforcement: this word vs that word, vulgarity vs racism, different languages. The funniest objection is vulgarity vs racism: &#8220;bwah! FCC bans bullshit but not ni**er!&#8221; &#8212; the n-word and other racial epithets bothers me more than vulgarity, too (emotion!) but arguably (reason) racial epithets are more closely related to *political speech* than simply saying bullshit, tits, or even semprini. So this objection actually reveals even more childish hypocrisy in this complaint. You aren&#8217;t out for political freedom; you want to be able to cuss on TV.</p>
<p>The problem with all of those objections, though, is that unevenness of enforcement has absolutely nothing to do with whether there should or shouldn&#8217;t be FCC oversight. The FCC doesn&#8217;t exist to please college students or media experts, it exists to police the public airwaves for familes at large. So &#8220;unevenness&#8221; isn&#8217;t an argument for abolishing the FCC, it&#8217;s just bitching about the FCC.</p>
<p>Hope I&#8217;m not sounding too mean &#8212; these are friendly arguments, even if put forcefully. I think there&#8217;s actually some common ground that could be found between conservatives and liberals on reforming the FCC, but calling for huge shifts like this only begs for polarization. You&#8217;re asking the nation to suddenly accept opening the network standards wider than they ever have been, and I think you&#8217;ll really need a better reason for doing so than simply saying that &#8220;everybody&#8221; says bullshit.</p>
<p>One more thing&#8230; just an observation, not an argument&#8230; &#8220;bullshit&#8221; makes for *crappy* political speech (pardon the word &#8220;crap&#8221;). It makes the owner of a pathetic and weak argument feel and act like he&#8217;s won a debate, simply because he shouts out like a teenager. The person who &#8220;calls bullshit&#8221; loses the argument the second they say the word, even faster than if they say &#8220;Hitler&#8221;. If I weren&#8217;t in danger of falling into the same trap myself, I would be tempted to say here that I&#8217;m calling bullshit on calling bullshit. If you can&#8217;t debate without bullshit, all it proves is that you are *full* of bullshit.</p>
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