Comments on: Help Zeyad come to America http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:27:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Alex Hammer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-347503 Alex Hammer Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:00:52 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-347503 This is the first I have heard of Zeyad, but from Jeff's post I applaud him for his efforts to help him. Alex This is the first I have heard of Zeyad, but from Jeff’s post I applaud him for his efforts to help him.

Alex

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » We Media, continued http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-43972 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » We Media, continued Thu, 04 May 2006 12:56:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-43972 [...] We hearing from a panelist in Iraq now. It is interrupted by helicopters going over. And when that dies down, we hear the call to prayer in the background. Zuhair Al-Jezairy says that Iraq has poor journalism training and they need to send young people elsewhere to get that. (Note Zeyad coming to U.S. to do just that.) [...] [...] We hearing from a panelist in Iraq now. It is interrupted by helicopters going over. And when that dies down, we hear the call to prayer in the background. Zuhair Al-Jezairy says that Iraq has poor journalism training and they need to send young people elsewhere to get that. (Note Zeyad coming to U.S. to do just that.) [...]

]]> By: Iraqi Blogger Looking for Support to Attend Journalism School | Center for Citizen Media: Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40207 Iraqi Blogger Looking for Support to Attend Journalism School | Center for Citizen Media: Blog Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:27:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40207 [...] Jeff Jarvis is raising money to “Help Zeyad come to America.” Zeyad is the pioneering Iraqi blogger who want to attend journalism school in New York. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis is raising money to “Help Zeyad come to America.” Zeyad is the pioneering Iraqi blogger who want to attend journalism school in New York. [...]

]]> By: frumiousb http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40148 frumiousb Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:37:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40148 Jeff, does CUNY have a website for donations? American abroad here who lives a pretty check-free existence & I really have a thing against paypal donations to someone I don't know in RL. Will make an exception if necessary, but still... Jeff, does CUNY have a website for donations? American abroad here who lives a pretty check-free existence & I really have a thing against paypal donations to someone I don’t know in RL. Will make an exception if necessary, but still…

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Battle blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40085 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Battle blog Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:32:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-40085 [...] : Please see our continuing appeal to raise funds to bring Zeyad to school in New York. [...] [...] : Please see our continuing appeal to raise funds to bring Zeyad to school in New York. [...]

]]> By: kenjimori.com » 寄付　donation イラクのブロガー http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38680 kenjimori.com » 寄付　donation イラクのブロガー Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:08:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38680 [...] An Iraqi blogger, Zeyad, needs a donation to pursue his graduate study at SUNY school of journalism where Jeff Jarvis teaches the interactive journalism.   Well, to be honest, I am not really into journalism or civilization, both of which sound quite foreign to me, but somehow I just feel like donating some amount.  I don’t know why　I feel like it.  Maybe because I recognize that I, as a Japanese, am too lucky to have grown up and lived in such a modern, peaceful environment.  Anyway, this sounds like very important.  [...] [...] An Iraqi blogger, Zeyad, needs a donation to pursue his graduate study at SUNY school of journalism where Jeff Jarvis teaches the interactive journalism.   Well, to be honest, I am not really into journalism or civilization, both of which sound quite foreign to me, but somehow I just feel like donating some amount.  I don’t know why　I feel like it.  Maybe because I recognize that I, as a Japanese, am too lucky to have grown up and lived in such a modern, peaceful environment.  Anyway, this sounds like very important.  [...]

]]> By: whodat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38463 whodat Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:21:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38463 sounds good. I'll bet some of my money he never goes back there. sounds good. I’ll bet some of my money he never goes back there.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38130 Jeff Jarvis Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:37:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38130 W&A: You do whatever you want to do with your money and I will do what I want to do with mine. W&A: You do whatever you want to do with your money and I will do what I want to do with mine.

]]> By: Another student http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38112 Another student Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:09:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38112 What was his GRE score? What was his GRE score?

]]> By: Angelos http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38026 Angelos Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:04:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38026 Besides, all the Iraqi schools are up and running! With 24-hour electricity! Shouldn't he be going to the University of Baghdad? Let's spend $45,000 on body armor, or VA care. Because the government sure isn't. Besides, all the Iraqi schools are up and running! With 24-hour electricity! Shouldn’t he be going to the University of Baghdad?

Let’s spend $45,000 on body armor, or VA care. Because the government sure isn’t.

]]> By: Simon Collister http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38002 Simon Collister Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:48:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-38002 At the risk of being flippant, if Zeyad doesn't get enough money to go to the US to study journalism, he could make a fortune here in the UK by resurrecting his dentistry career!!!!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4889226.stm At the risk of being flippant, if Zeyad doesn’t get enough money to go to the US to study journalism, he could make a fortune here in the UK by resurrecting his dentistry career!!!!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4889226.stm

]]> By: whodat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37996 whodat Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:28:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37996 Man-- a little dissent and you're a troll and other such abnormalities. How rude. Sorry, if I've got any money to give to someone in search of education, it would have to be someone in our very own public schools. Man– a little dissent and you’re a troll and other such abnormalities. How rude. Sorry, if I’ve got any money to give to someone in search of education, it would have to be someone in our very own public schools.

]]> By: C.H. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37959 C.H. Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:09:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37959 Thank you for the information Eric. I know Zeyad is against the war, and I know Hoder is a lying regime sympathizer. So, I don't think I'll be recommending anyone send money. There are too many other worthy and needy people who can and should be helped. Jeff, if these are the people you choose to help, you need to choose wiser. Thank you for the information Eric.
I know Zeyad is against the war, and I know Hoder is a lying regime sympathizer.
So, I don’t think I’ll be recommending anyone send money.
There are too many other worthy and needy people who can and should be helped.
Jeff, if these are the people you choose to help, you need to choose wiser.

]]> By: Eric http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37947 Eric Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:33:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37947 I'm afraid this one also will be like the former jeff-made hero, Hoder, who humiliated Iranians as well as his own Isrealis hosts in his taboo-breaking! Journey to Israel (<a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/hoder/video/40593" rel="nofollow">Video</a>) And read this <a href="http://allisonkaplansommer.blogmosis.com/history/031889.html#031889" rel="nofollow">article</a> I’m afraid this one also will be like the former jeff-made hero, Hoder, who humiliated Iranians as well as his own Isrealis hosts in his taboo-breaking! Journey to Israel (Video)
And read this article

]]> By: Rantings of a Sandmonkey » Zeyad wants to come to America http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37943 Rantings of a Sandmonkey » Zeyad wants to come to America Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:14:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37943 [...] Here is how you can help ! Permalink • Trackback URL [...] [...] Here is how you can help ! Permalink • Trackback URL [...]

]]> By: Yankee Wombat | An American in Oz http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37916 Yankee Wombat | An American in Oz Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:39:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37916 [...] Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine is asking for contributions to help bring Iraqi blogger Zeyad of Healing Iraq to the United States to study journalism at the new Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY (City University of New York). Jeff Jarvis is on the faculty and director of the new media program at the School of Journalism. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine is asking for contributions to help bring Iraqi blogger Zeyad of Healing Iraq to the United States to study journalism at the new Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY (City University of New York). Jeff Jarvis is on the faculty and director of the new media program at the School of Journalism. [...]

]]> By: JM Hanes http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37883 JM Hanes Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:48:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37883 Thanks Jeff, for bringing this opportunity to our attention. One thing I learned from my late father-in-law is that there's almost nothing as much fun as giving money away. Whether it's five dollars or a million doesn't matter on that score in the least. The American tradition of doing so privately, at every level, is almost unique in the world. As someone who has seen a lot of fundraising, I can only offer this small bit of advice to sean, above, When you blast folks for making contributions elsewhere because you believe your cause is worthier, you might as well just stay home and shoot yourself in the foot, because you will not be helping the very cause you care about. You may not like it, but I'm afraid that's just how it works. If you really want to make a difference, you're going to have to decide whether you'd rather alienate or solicit potential donors. Thanks Jeff, for bringing this opportunity to our attention. One thing I learned from my late father-in-law is that there’s almost nothing as much fun as giving money away. Whether it’s five dollars or a million doesn’t matter on that score in the least. The American tradition of doing so privately, at every level, is almost unique in the world.

As someone who has seen a lot of fundraising, I can only offer this small bit of advice to sean, above, When you blast folks for making contributions elsewhere because you believe your cause is worthier, you might as well just stay home and shoot yourself in the foot, because you will not be helping the very cause you care about. You may not like it, but I’m afraid that’s just how it works. If you really want to make a difference, you’re going to have to decide whether you’d rather alienate or solicit potential donors.

]]> By: Ethan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37824 Ethan Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:05:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37824 I've opposed this war like hell from the beginning, but to be against the success of the mission, and to be against individual Iraqis who want to learn--I'm opposed even more to that. I’ve opposed this war like hell from the beginning, but to be against the success of the mission, and to be against individual Iraqis who want to learn–I’m opposed even more to that.

]]> By: Jeremy Brown http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37813 Jeremy Brown Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:19:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37813 As far as I can see Zeyad <i>was</i> a soldier in the war against Saddam's fascist regime. He and other Iraqi bloggers risked their lives merely speaking out against the Baathists and other terrorists. The war theater was and is their home. If helping Zeyad get a bigger slice of the media pie means he can bring a bit of perspective to pro-democratic Iraqis as they take over this struggle, for which so many people have put their lives on the line, then that's part of the war effort. We all want the ideals our soldiers fought and died for to take root -- it's extremely important to the world's future that this happen. Responsible Iraqi voters, politicians, and journalists will have to play a role in nurturing this opportunity that the war has created. Jeff is asking people who already believe in the contribution Zeyad has made to kick in some help. You (and I'm referring to a couple of the commenters above) may hate fascist-minded Iraqis who are trying to tear apart what Americans have died trying to construct in Iraq, but Zeyad and his family have to live with fascists in their neighborhoods. I want Zeyad and people like him to be able to shout louder than their fascist and theocratic neighbors. So as soon as my bank account rises above a negative balance, I'm going to kick in a pint-sized contribution. As far as I can see Zeyad was a soldier in the war against Saddam’s fascist regime. He and other Iraqi bloggers risked their lives merely speaking out against the Baathists and other terrorists. The war theater was and is their home.

If helping Zeyad get a bigger slice of the media pie means he can bring a bit of perspective to pro-democratic Iraqis as they take over this struggle, for which so many people have put their lives on the line, then that’s part of the war effort.

We all want the ideals our soldiers fought and died for to take root — it’s extremely important to the world’s future that this happen. Responsible Iraqi voters, politicians, and journalists will have to play a role in nurturing this opportunity that the war has created.

Jeff is asking people who already believe in the contribution Zeyad has made to kick in some help. You (and I’m referring to a couple of the commenters above) may hate fascist-minded Iraqis who are trying to tear apart what Americans have died trying to construct in Iraq, but Zeyad and his family have to live with fascists in their neighborhoods. I want Zeyad and people like him to be able to shout louder than their fascist and theocratic neighbors. So as soon as my bank account rises above a negative balance, I’m going to kick in a pint-sized contribution.

]]> By: windknot http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37807 windknot Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:02:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37807 So Jeff, If Zeyad goes to J-School, what will he gain? Will he end up yet another ABCCBSNBCCNN-WaPoNYTimesLaTimes, etc. ad nauseum drone that uses AlQaeda talking points to inform his news coverage? How does CUNY differ from the *other* J-schools that seem to churn out such intellectually inferior product? So Jeff,
If Zeyad goes to J-School, what will he gain? Will he end up yet another ABCCBSNBCCNN-WaPoNYTimesLaTimes, etc. ad nauseum drone that uses AlQaeda talking points to inform his news coverage? How does CUNY differ from the *other* J-schools that seem to churn out such intellectually inferior product?

]]> By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » A Worthy Cause http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37806 Donklephant » Blog Archive » A Worthy Cause Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:01:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37806 [...] Now Zeyad has a chance to come and study journalism in the U.S. He’s earned the chance. Jeff Jarvis has the story: We all need to help Zeyad, the pioneering Iraqi blogger and journalist, come to America, where he will attend CUNY’s new Graduate School of Journalism. To get his student visa, he must show support for the year and a half that he will be here and that means raising at least $45,000. We are reaching out to foundations and individuals and working on scholarships and Zeyad is working to raise money. But that won’t do it all. We will. All of you inspired Zeyad to blog and give his invaluable perspective on Iraq. That inspired him to give up his career as a dentist and report for his blog as well as for NYTimes.com, the Washington Post, and the Guardian. So now I hope we will all show what the blogosphere can do and raise the funds one of our own needs to come to America to study. You have two means to give. [...] [...] Now Zeyad has a chance to come and study journalism in the U.S. He’s earned the chance. Jeff Jarvis has the story: We all need to help Zeyad, the pioneering Iraqi blogger and journalist, come to America, where he will attend CUNY’s new Graduate School of Journalism. To get his student visa, he must show support for the year and a half that he will be here and that means raising at least $45,000. We are reaching out to foundations and individuals and working on scholarships and Zeyad is working to raise money. But that won’t do it all. We will. All of you inspired Zeyad to blog and give his invaluable perspective on Iraq. That inspired him to give up his career as a dentist and report for his blog as well as for NYTimes.com, the Washington Post, and the Guardian. So now I hope we will all show what the blogosphere can do and raise the funds one of our own needs to come to America to study. You have two means to give. [...]

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37766 Jeff Jarvis Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:11:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37766 Sean, It is not a zero-sum game. And, yes, you are ranting. And as you see, you are insulting our soldiers. You don't want to give? Fine. Don't give. And move on. Minh-Duc, Thank you so much! And thank you for your sacrifice and risk for others. Sean,
It is not a zero-sum game. And, yes, you are ranting. And as you see, you are insulting our soldiers. You don’t want to give? Fine. Don’t give. And move on.

Minh-Duc,
Thank you so much!
And thank you for your sacrifice and risk for others.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37764 Jeff Jarvis Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:05:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37764 Michael: It's as simple as this: Sending contributions to Zeyad in Iraq is difficult, eh? So if people want to assure the money is going to his education they can do so through CUNY. It's really that simple. You're watching the scholarship effort in action right here. Michael:
It’s as simple as this: Sending contributions to Zeyad in Iraq is difficult, eh? So if people want to assure the money is going to his education they can do so through CUNY. It’s really that simple. You’re watching the scholarship effort in action right here.

]]> By: Minh-Duc http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37750 Minh-Duc Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:32:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37750 Sean, As someone who fought in Iraq. You do not speak for me. And I doubt that you speak for other soldiers. American soldiers do not enlist and went to Iraq for financial gain. There was a greater purpose for us being there. We are there to make the world a better place - at our own expense I may add. A young PFC may make very little money going to Iraq and take enormous personal risk. But he will go home to a prosperous American with great future economic prospect. Personally, as a reservist, I made far less in Iraq than I would made in my civilian job. It was a financial loss, but an incredible gain in personal fullfillment. Those days were the proudest days of my life. Your comment is a personal insult to me. You turn our noble purpose into something petty. I want Iraq and Iraqis to succeed, as a nation and as a people. I have friends who have died and wounded in Iraq. If Iraq fail, their sacrifice would be in vain. So if helping Zeyad going to America make Iraq a better place, I am all for it. Sean,

As someone who fought in Iraq. You do not speak for me. And I doubt that you speak for other soldiers. American soldiers do not enlist and went to Iraq for financial gain. There was a greater purpose for us being there. We are there to make the world a better place - at our own expense I may add.

A young PFC may make very little money going to Iraq and take enormous personal risk. But he will go home to a prosperous American with great future economic prospect. Personally, as a reservist, I made far less in Iraq than I would made in my civilian job. It was a financial loss, but an incredible gain in personal fullfillment. Those days were the proudest days of my life.

Your comment is a personal insult to me. You turn our noble purpose into something petty. I want Iraq and Iraqis to succeed, as a nation and as a people. I have friends who have died and wounded in Iraq. If Iraq fail, their sacrifice would be in vain.

So if helping Zeyad going to America make Iraq a better place, I am all for it.

]]> By: Michael Zimmer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37748 Michael Zimmer Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:27:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/04/11/help-zeyad-come-to-america/#comment-37748 Don't mean to be contrarian - just concerned about fairness with department-sponsored scholarships. Hope he gets the funds to attend. Don’t mean to be contrarian - just concerned about fairness with department-sponsored scholarships. Hope he gets the funds to attend.

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