Comments on: The vision from Europe http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:57:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Bigger, better journalism http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-100857 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Bigger, better journalism Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:36:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-100857 [...] Fourth, journalists must redefine their roles and relationships as more than reporters, editors, and producers — which, yes, they must still be — but also…. Moderators. Entrepreneurs. Teachers. Students. Helpers. Enablers. Networkers. Filters. Partners. Community members. Citizens. I think in some ways this is the most exciting quest of them all. [...] [...] Fourth, journalists must redefine their roles and relationships as more than reporters, editors, and producers — which, yes, they must still be — but also…. Moderators. Entrepreneurs. Teachers. Students. Helpers. Enablers. Networkers. Filters. Partners. Community members. Citizens. I think in some ways this is the most exciting quest of them all. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Driving readers online http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-68371 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Driving readers online Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:09:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-68371 [...] And so this potentially changes the role of the reporter and editor as orchestrators of that process. See, once again, Gruner + Jahr chief Bernd Kundrun on the role of the journalist as moderator. [...] [...] And so this potentially changes the role of the reporter and editor as orchestrators of that process. See, once again, Gruner + Jahr chief Bernd Kundrun on the role of the journalist as moderator. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Follow the money http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-59610 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Follow the money Tue, 30 May 2006 19:25:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-59610 [...] Once again, the Europeans are ahead. [...] [...] Once again, the Europeans are ahead. [...]

]]> By: MediaBlog » De kunst van het afdwalen (over serendipity en search) http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-57603 MediaBlog » De kunst van het afdwalen (over serendipity en search) Sun, 28 May 2006 09:19:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-57603 [...] (De speech van Alan Rusbridger kwam ik tegen dankzij columnist en blogger Jeff Jarvis van Buzzmachine) [...] [...] (De speech van Alan Rusbridger kwam ik tegen dankzij columnist en blogger Jeff Jarvis van Buzzmachine) [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » More on books: fiction v. nonfiction http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-56917 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » More on books: fiction v. nonfiction Sat, 27 May 2006 14:35:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-56917 [...] This echoes what the head of Gruner + Jahr said about journalists becoming moderators. [...] [...] This echoes what the head of Gruner + Jahr said about journalists becoming moderators. [...]

]]> By: Alex http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-46434 Alex Fri, 12 May 2006 15:19:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-46434 You might want to give a look at cafebabel.com. An innovative form of European journalism, relying on "participatory journalism. It's a magazine translated in 7 languages, and offering a European perspective on current affairs. www.cafebabel.com You might want to give a look at cafebabel.com. An innovative form of European journalism, relying on “participatory journalism. It’s a magazine translated in 7 languages, and offering a European perspective on current affairs.
http://www.cafebabel.com

]]> By: Laurent Freneau http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-45559 Laurent Freneau Wed, 10 May 2006 14:28:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-45559 Document sans nom Yesterday, <a href="http://bruxelles.blogs.liberation.fr/coulisses/2006/05/blog_prim.html" rel="nofollow">this blog</a> dealing with Brussels and the European Union, has received the Louise Weiss Award for european journalism. Document sans nom

Yesterday, this blog dealing with Brussels and the European Union, has received the Louise Weiss Award for european journalism.

]]> By: Claus http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-45254 Claus Tue, 09 May 2006 14:41:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-45254 > Jeff, what really is the difference between “point you to the good stuff” and “gatekeeping”? Addition: Imho it's not only about the "good stuff", but about the truth. My impression (I'm German myself) is that at least over here the main function of the "big ones" (the major media concerns) is, to deliver a certain "picture" to the readers which is not necessarily true. Its main function is imho to maintain the status quo and to prevent major changes (for the better, of course) in our society (I'm basically talking about Germany here, but this can easily be applied to other countries as well). > Jeff, what really is the difference between “point you to the good stuff” and “gatekeeping”?

Addition: Imho it’s not only about the “good stuff”, but about the truth. My impression (I’m German myself) is that at least over here the main function of the “big ones” (the major media concerns) is, to deliver a certain “picture” to the readers which is not necessarily true. Its main function is imho to maintain the status quo and to prevent major changes (for the better, of course) in our society (I’m basically talking about Germany here, but this can easily be applied to other countries as well).

]]> By: Claus http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-45178 Claus Tue, 09 May 2006 08:17:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-45178 But: Who decides what's good, and what isn't? That's the big problem! But: Who decides what’s good, and what isn’t? That’s the big problem!

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-44942 Jeff Jarvis Mon, 08 May 2006 14:40:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-44942 Scott, Fair point. In some hands, there's no difference. But I think that up until now, news organizations have never been generous with pointing to other sources; they gave you what they created. So pointing out to others is itself a big change. Then, you'll say, pointing out to some and not others is gatekeeping. Well, it's a glass-half-empty way to look at it, isn't it? If you never pointed to the outside before and now you do, if you recommend good things others do, that's moderating, I think; that's far more generous. And, no, I do not expect them to point to everyone -- anymore than you or I point to everyone. We recommend. That is the flipside of gatekeeping, perhaps. But if you do it generously, I'd call it moderation. And if you find the good stuff I wouldn't have found, I'd call that useful. Scott,
Fair point. In some hands, there’s no difference. But I think that up until now, news organizations have never been generous with pointing to other sources; they gave you what they created. So pointing out to others is itself a big change. Then, you’ll say, pointing out to some and not others is gatekeeping. Well, it’s a glass-half-empty way to look at it, isn’t it? If you never pointed to the outside before and now you do, if you recommend good things others do, that’s moderating, I think; that’s far more generous. And, no, I do not expect them to point to everyone — anymore than you or I point to everyone. We recommend. That is the flipside of gatekeeping, perhaps. But if you do it generously, I’d call it moderation. And if you find the good stuff I wouldn’t have found, I’d call that useful.

]]> By: Scott Karp http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-44855 Scott Karp Mon, 08 May 2006 06:12:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-44855 Jeff, what really is the difference between "point you to the good stuff" and "gatekeeping"? How is this really so different from the old model of publishing where media companies controlled what gets attention? You can put a blog in every pot, but there's not enough attention to go around. I know you'll say progress is slow, but at least its progress. Still, "visionary statements" from media execs trying to prevent shareholder revolts are getting to be a dime a dozen. Jeff, what really is the difference between “point you to the good stuff” and “gatekeeping”? How is this really so different from the old model of publishing where media companies controlled what gets attention? You can put a blog in every pot, but there’s not enough attention to go around.

I know you’ll say progress is slow, but at least its progress. Still, “visionary statements” from media execs trying to prevent shareholder revolts are getting to be a dime a dozen.

]]> By: Ivan Dylko http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/07/the-vision-from-europe/#comment-44683 Ivan Dylko Sun, 07 May 2006 15:23:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1478#comment-44683 I absolutely agree that journalism has to find a new definition for itself (if there ever has been a clear one before). That is a very important task, not only theoretically, but practically as well because it will have implications for freedom of speech protections, access, and interaction between old msm and new open-source interpersonal/mass media. I absolutely agree that journalism has to find a new definition for itself (if there ever has been a clear one before). That is a very important task, not only theoretically, but practically as well because it will have implications for freedom of speech protections, access, and interaction between old msm and new open-source interpersonal/mass media.

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