Comments on: The book is dead. Long live the book. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/ by Jeff Jarvis Sat, 17 May 2008 04:31:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Let’s not buy the coffin just yet… « Caitlin08’s Weblog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-373552 Let’s not buy the coffin just yet… « Caitlin08’s Weblog Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:25:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-373552 [...] read that Jeff Jarvis believes that books are dead because ‘they are frozen in time without the means of being updated [...] [...] read that Jeff Jarvis believes that books are dead because ‘they are frozen in time without the means of being updated [...]

]]> By: The book is dead? « Cait’s blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-373471 The book is dead? « Cait’s blog Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:00:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-373471 [...] such a huge part of our intellectual experience and growth that to suggest that they could be obsolete seems [...] [...] such a huge part of our intellectual experience and growth that to suggest that they could be obsolete seems [...]

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-368250 David Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:31:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-368250 It will be interesting to watch global trends in book publishing, to see if e-books ever steal the thunder from print books, the way e-music seems to be cutting into "printed" music on CD's. There's an interesting list of sources of statistics on book sales at Google Answers: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=246739 <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=246739" rel="nofollow">Global Book Sales</a> Worth a look. It will be interesting to watch global trends in book publishing, to see if e-books ever steal the thunder from print books, the way e-music seems to be cutting into “printed” music on CD’s.

There’s an interesting list of sources of statistics on book sales at Google Answers:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=246739

Global Book Sales

Worth a look.

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]]> By: Scott http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-362205 Scott Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:59:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-362205 When a new technology is introduced, it also introduces absolutes about the technology it aims to replace. Radio was to replace the newspaper, television was to replace radio – then the movies, now the Web is to replace all forms of media – print, TV, radio, cable... The simple fact is we still live in a very analog world. Waste your time instead talking about how the coming digital divide – the split between those who live with technology and participate in life, and those who live for technology and don't. Ask yourself how many cell phones you've had in your life so far – how many iPods or laptops. What do we do with them when they have lived their 18-month usefulness? We throw them away and get another. We pile them in our garage, where they wilL wait until we send them to the landfill – either here or in China. But they'll be worthless, outmoded, and a hazard. We'll sell an old book. Someone will read it again and pass it on to another who will do the same. And I love it when people call it "dead tree" communication. Do they ever consider tree are a renewable source? Take a minute and contemplate what's inside your mp3 player or laptop? now stack those up and see what they're made of? When a new technology is introduced, it also introduces absolutes about the technology it aims to replace. Radio was to replace the newspaper, television was to replace radio – then the movies, now the Web is to replace all forms of media – print, TV, radio, cable…

The simple fact is we still live in a very analog world. Waste your time instead talking about how the coming digital divide – the split between those who live with technology and participate in life, and those who live for technology and don’t.

Ask yourself how many cell phones you’ve had in your life so far – how many iPods or laptops. What do we do with them when they have lived their 18-month usefulness? We throw them away and get another. We pile them in our garage, where they wilL wait until we send them to the landfill – either here or in China. But they’ll be worthless, outmoded, and a hazard.

We’ll sell an old book. Someone will read it again and pass it on to another who will do the same. And I love it when people call it “dead tree” communication. Do they ever consider tree are a renewable source? Take a minute and contemplate what’s inside your mp3 player or laptop? now stack those up and see what they’re made of?

]]> By: LVHRD.ORG » Blog Archive » The Future of Words: college is dead http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-354166 LVHRD.ORG » Blog Archive » The Future of Words: college is dead Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:55:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-354166 [...] knows books are dying, or more specifically, books as we know them are dying (Harry Potter is not a book–it’s [...] [...] knows books are dying, or more specifically, books as we know them are dying (Harry Potter is not a book–it’s [...]

]]> By: Upper Fort Stewart » How Ben Casnocha thinks about books http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-346955 Upper Fort Stewart » How Ben Casnocha thinks about books Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:53:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-346955 [...] for Jeff Jarvis‘ crusade to digitize journalism efforts, I disagree with him that a book is outdated in today’s link-enabled world. True, a book is not interactive. However, for topics that [...] [...] for Jeff Jarvis‘ crusade to digitize journalism efforts, I disagree with him that a book is outdated in today’s link-enabled world. True, a book is not interactive. However, for topics that [...]

]]> By: Tom Mandel http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-272115 Tom Mandel Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:55:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-272115 New technologies don't always (don't often) entirely replace older ones. Pencils are still useful. Books have many advantages, some of them leveraging what you describe as disadvantages, Jeff -- would Anna Karenina really be improved if it could be 'updated?' Moreover, books *are* part of a conversation -- all human thinking is part of a conversation (I recommend the work of Bakhtin - russian philosopher of language - on the "dialogical imagination"). Just as I don't rewrite your blog post but comment on it, so there is a vast conversation surrounding Anna Karenina (or Hamlet, or Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man). I.e. the 'book' is closely connected to 'the work' -- for example to a musical composition or a painting. It is precisely that it *can't* be altered which gives *push* to the conversation around it. One could go on and on about the advantages of the book -- try riffling through an electronic reader text -- but the main point is clear. They aren't easily replaced. New technologies don’t always (don’t often) entirely replace older ones. Pencils are still useful. Books have many advantages, some of them leveraging what you describe as disadvantages, Jeff — would Anna Karenina really be improved if it could be ‘updated?’

Moreover, books *are* part of a conversation — all human thinking is part of a conversation (I recommend the work of Bakhtin - russian philosopher of language - on the “dialogical imagination”). Just as I don’t rewrite your blog post but comment on it, so there is a vast conversation surrounding Anna Karenina (or Hamlet, or Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man).

I.e. the ‘book’ is closely connected to ‘the work’ — for example to a musical composition or a painting. It is precisely that it *can’t* be altered which gives *push* to the conversation around it.

One could go on and on about the advantages of the book — try riffling through an electronic reader text — but the main point is clear. They aren’t easily replaced.

]]> By: John Baker’s Blog » Blog Archive » Presque vu IV http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-122396 John Baker’s Blog » Blog Archive » Presque vu IV Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:11:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-122396 [...] Jeff Jarvis’s blog, The Book is Dead. Long Live the Book, argues that print is where words go to die. We need to get over the book. And then we can reinvent it. That is true of newspapers. It’s true of book publishing as well. The knowledge that is there is, of course, invaluable. That is why we need to find new ways to gather and share and improve and preserve it. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis’s blog, The Book is Dead. Long Live the Book, argues that print is where words go to die. We need to get over the book. And then we can reinvent it. That is true of newspapers. It’s true of book publishing as well. The knowledge that is there is, of course, invaluable. That is why we need to find new ways to gather and share and improve and preserve it. [...]

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]]> By: Subject/Object :: In reply to Buzz Machine: The books is dead. Long live the book. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-90879 Subject/Object :: In reply to Buzz Machine: The books is dead. Long live the book. Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:14:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-90879 [...] In reply to Buzz Machine: The book is dead. Long live the book: [...] [...] In reply to Buzz Machine: The book is dead. Long live the book: [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Who needs critics? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-88293 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Who needs critics? Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:54:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-88293 [...] No, I say we’re never going to get to the day — long predicted — when we’ll all want to make our own endings to novels and movies. There is, by God, a role for authorship. But then again, a TV series isn’t like a film or a book (at least until books become more fluid); a TV series continues, it lives. If a show is successful, it is because the people formerly known as its audience feel as if they, too, own it; it works when it comes to life and becomes part of their lives. And so perhaps it is wise to include them in the process of creation. I don’t mean to rule by focus group, poll, or galvanic skin response. But if you are open to the people who love what you do, if you let them contribute, they will. So in that sense, even creators become critics and moderators and even the audience becomes creative. [...] [...] No, I say we’re never going to get to the day — long predicted — when we’ll all want to make our own endings to novels and movies. There is, by God, a role for authorship. But then again, a TV series isn’t like a film or a book (at least until books become more fluid); a TV series continues, it lives. If a show is successful, it is because the people formerly known as its audience feel as if they, too, own it; it works when it comes to life and becomes part of their lives. And so perhaps it is wise to include them in the process of creation. I don’t mean to rule by focus group, poll, or galvanic skin response. But if you are open to the people who love what you do, if you let them contribute, they will. So in that sense, even creators become critics and moderators and even the audience becomes creative. [...]

]]> By: NIGELBEALE.COM NOTA BENE BOOKS » Blog Archive » The Book is Dead. Long live the Book http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-79527 NIGELBEALE.COM NOTA BENE BOOKS » Blog Archive » The Book is Dead. Long live the Book Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:12:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-79527 [...] And this too from Richard’s blog: Jeff Jarvis at the Buzz Machine writing really, really well on books: “They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. ” [...] [...] And this too from Richard’s blog: Jeff Jarvis at the Buzz Machine writing really, really well on books: “They are frozen in time without the means of being updated and corrected. They have no link to related knowledge, debates, and sources. They create, at best, a one-way relationship with a reader. They try to teach readers but don’t teach authors. They tend to be too damned long because they have to be long enough to be books. As David Weinberger taught me, they limit how knowledge can be found because they have to sit on a shelf under one address; there’s only way way to get to it. They are expensive to produce. They depend on scarce shelf space. They depend on blockbuster economics. They can’t afford to serve the real mass of niches. They are subject to gatekeepers’ whims. They aren’t searchable. They aren’t linkable. They have no metadata. They carry no conversation. They are thrown out when there’s no space for them anymore. Print is where words go to die. ” [...]

]]> By: Times emit » A quick primer from the bloggers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-70209 Times emit » A quick primer from the bloggers Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:32:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-70209 [...] That BuzzMachine / the book is dead piece. Don’t forget. [...] [...] That BuzzMachine / the book is dead piece. Don’t forget. [...]

]]> By: Victor Lamp http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-68056 Victor Lamp Sun, 11 Jun 2006 21:25:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-68056 Hardcover Books will always be a part of the culture. But there is no question that new technologies and communications will help to make books read even more than they have in the past. I should know, because we at bookyards.com have been doing this for the past 5 years. Just look at the proliferation of digital libraries on the web. Gutenberg alone has 2,000,000 ebooks downloads per month. That is good news, and an indication that reading habits are changing. On our website, we have a good collection of digital libraries, just go to Bookyards "Library Collections - E Books" at http://www.bookyards.com/links.html?type=links&category_id=1780 There are approximately 350 digital libraries seperated alphabetically and by category, with over 200,000 ebooks Hardcover Books will always be a part of the culture. But there is no question that new technologies and communications will help to make books read even more than they have in the past. I should know, because we at bookyards.com have been doing this for the past 5 years. Just look at the proliferation of digital libraries on the web. Gutenberg alone has 2,000,000 ebooks downloads per month. That is good news, and an indication that reading habits are changing.
On our website, we have a good collection of digital libraries, just go to Bookyards “Library Collections - E Books” at http://www.bookyards.com/links.html?type=links&category_id=1780
There are approximately 350 digital libraries seperated alphabetically and by category, with over 200,000 ebooks

]]> By: Russ Miller http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-67016 Russ Miller Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:06:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-67016 Who needs a novel that is fully indexed and constantly updated? Who needs a novel that is fully indexed and constantly updated?

]]> By: Media SITREP » Borges,GAM3R 7H30RY and The Changing Writer/Reader Relationship http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-64772 Media SITREP » Borges,GAM3R 7H30RY and The Changing Writer/Reader Relationship Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:03:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-64772 [...] Jeff Jarvis's "The Book is dead. Long live the book" post last week has generated quite a conversation, including this follow-up post and a set of comments on the Guardian's site. Ben Vershbow, of the Institute for the Future of the Book, added some comments on "the shifting role of the author." I'm going to tell him to have a look at [McKenzie Wark's] GAM3R 7H30RY…The text, previously undisturbed except by the author's hand, is suddenly clamorous with other voices. McKenzie finds himself thrust into the role of moderator, collaborating with the reader on the development of the book. The reader, in turn, is no longer a solitary explorer but a potential partner in a dialogue, with the author or with fellow readers…. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis's "The Book is dead. Long live the book" post last week has generated quite a conversation, including this follow-up post and a set of comments on the Guardian's site. Ben Vershbow, of the Institute for the Future of the Book, added some comments on "the shifting role of the author." I'm going to tell him to have a look at [McKenzie Wark's] GAM3R 7H30RY…The text, previously undisturbed except by the author's hand, is suddenly clamorous with other voices. McKenzie finds himself thrust into the role of moderator, collaborating with the reader on the development of the book. The reader, in turn, is no longer a solitary explorer but a potential partner in a dialogue, with the author or with fellow readers…. [...]

]]> By: Phillip Senn http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/19/the-book-is-dead-long-live-the-book/#comment-62644 Phillip Senn Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:40:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1534#comment-62644 Electronic ink will solve the problem of not being able to cuddle up with your favorite book at night. The ink is microcapsules which can be rotated either on the white side or black side. After they are rotated, they no longer need electricity to keep their orientation. http://www.eink.com/ So think of it as paper, only not pulp. Just as we've moved away from rags to wood pulp, we will move away from wood pulp to electronic ink. Not in our lifetime, but one day people will treat wood pulp with the same reverance as we do rag linen today. Electronic ink will solve the problem of not being able to cuddle up with your favorite book at night.
The ink is microcapsules which can be rotated either on the white side or black side. After they are rotated, they no longer need electricity to keep their orientation.
http://www.eink.com/

So think of it as paper, only not pulp.
Just as we’ve moved away from rags to wood pulp, we will move away from wood pulp to electronic ink.
Not in our lifetime, but one day people will treat wood pulp with the same reverance as we do rag linen today.

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