Comments on: News and opinion http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/23/news-and-opinion/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:29:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Winston http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/23/news-and-opinion/#comment-53643 Winston Wed, 24 May 2006 11:24:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1554#comment-53643 Jeff, I stumbled across a link to you at noded.com where JR is one of my regular haunts. Left this comment over there: <em>I have not yet been to read the entire article, so my comments may be way out of context. If I might include newspapers and magazines (think Life, Look, SatEvePost) in their heyday and the early masters in TV journalism (Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley, et al) then I heartily disagree with the comment about trust. There was a level of trust in those days, with those sources, that we are not likely to see again, other than on a narrowly channelized micro level.</em> After reading your post, I think I might not have been too far out of context. I realize the "trust" thing is tricky and we can get mired in that for days. How does your position accomodate the sources and levels of trust addressed in my comment? Jeff, I stumbled across a link to you at noded.com where JR is one of my regular haunts. Left this comment over there:

I have not yet been to read the entire article, so my comments may be way out of context. If I might include newspapers and magazines (think Life, Look, SatEvePost) in their heyday and the early masters in TV journalism (Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley, et al) then I heartily disagree with the comment about trust. There was a level of trust in those days, with those sources, that we are not likely to see again, other than on a narrowly channelized micro level.

After reading your post, I think I might not have been too far out of context. I realize the “trust” thing is tricky and we can get mired in that for days. How does your position accomodate the sources and levels of trust addressed in my comment?

]]> By: Jackie Danicki » On ‘media bias’ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/23/news-and-opinion/#comment-53616 Jackie Danicki » On ‘media bias’ Wed, 24 May 2006 10:33:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1554#comment-53616 [...] It was never really about bias, but about the inescapable truth that we each view the world through our own unique prisms, shaped by life experiences and other influences. Non-disclosure of those worldviews just makes things shady. Jeff Jarvis: [J]ournalists do not own or even decide the truth. It is their job to help the public decide what is true. And so the public has a right to know what journalists bring to their stories so the public can make better judgments. The one real lesson the internet and the advent of two-way media has brought to the masters of old media is that they did not own trust. The journalists thought they could just tell the public to trust them and accept what they said as the truth. But they never really could. [...] [...] It was never really about bias, but about the inescapable truth that we each view the world through our own unique prisms, shaped by life experiences and other influences. Non-disclosure of those worldviews just makes things shady. Jeff Jarvis: [J]ournalists do not own or even decide the truth. It is their job to help the public decide what is true. And so the public has a right to know what journalists bring to their stories so the public can make better judgments. The one real lesson the internet and the advent of two-way media has brought to the masters of old media is that they did not own trust. The journalists thought they could just tell the public to trust them and accept what they said as the truth. But they never really could. [...]

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/23/news-and-opinion/#comment-53412 Terry Heaton Wed, 24 May 2006 03:21:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1554#comment-53412 Wish I'd been invited to the party this time, Jeff. I'd argue that opinion is the wrong word in the new journalism order. Argument is the word. Tell me why you make the statements you make, not what you think about an issue. Contemporary journalism is filled with opinion, but it's seriously lacking argument -- something Chris Lasch argued effectively was necessary for a involved citizenry. Knock 'em dead. Wish I’d been invited to the party this time, Jeff. I’d argue that opinion is the wrong word in the new journalism order. Argument is the word. Tell me why you make the statements you make, not what you think about an issue. Contemporary journalism is filled with opinion, but it’s seriously lacking argument — something Chris Lasch argued effectively was necessary for a involved citizenry.

Knock ‘em dead.

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