Comments on: In the cause of freedom http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:02:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Coolrayfruge http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-348547 Coolrayfruge Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:12:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-348547 I'm not a Political man and have no Political covictions.I'm a idividual and a believer in Liberty.Thats all the Politics I have. On the other hand. I I'm not a Super patriot. Super Patriots Leads to Hitlerism-and we've had our lesson there. -Charles Chaplin Friends asked how I came to engender this american antagonism. My prodigious sin was,and still is beinga non-conformist. Althought I'm not a communist.I refuse to hate them I oppose to the committee on UN American Activities- a dishonest phrase to begin with,elastic enough wrape around the throat and strangle the voice of any american citizen whose honest opinion is a minority of one. _Charlie Chaplin I’m not a Political man and have no Political covictions.I’m a idividual and a believer in Liberty.Thats all the Politics I have.
On the other hand.
I I’m not a Super patriot.
Super Patriots Leads to Hitlerism-and we’ve had our lesson there.
-Charles Chaplin
Friends asked how I came to engender this american antagonism.
My prodigious sin was,and still is beinga non-conformist.
Althought I’m not a communist.I refuse to hate them
I oppose to the committee on UN American Activities- a dishonest phrase to begin with,elastic enough wrape around the throat and strangle the voice of any american citizen whose honest opinion is a minority of one.
_Charlie Chaplin

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » On China http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-74514 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » On China Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:49:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-74514 [...] That means the first step is to state those principles. I think Amnesty International made a good first step at its Irrepressible.info: I believe the Internet should be a force for political freedom, not repression. People have the right to seek and receive information and to express their peaceful beliefs online without fear or interference. I call on governments to stop the unwarranted restriction of freedom of expression on the Internet – and on companies to stop helping them do it. [...] [...] That means the first step is to state those principles. I think Amnesty International made a good first step at its Irrepressible.info: I believe the Internet should be a force for political freedom, not repression. People have the right to seek and receive information and to express their peaceful beliefs online without fear or interference. I call on governments to stop the unwarranted restriction of freedom of expression on the Internet – and on companies to stop helping them do it. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The China problem http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-63554 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The China problem Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:11:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-63554 [...] I signed up in support of Amnesty International’s pledge of internet freedom at Irrepressible.info. So perhaps that’s the question the next person should ask Semel; I’d be happy to. Will he agree to this: [...] [...] I signed up in support of Amnesty International’s pledge of internet freedom at Irrepressible.info. So perhaps that’s the question the next person should ask Semel; I’d be happy to. Will he agree to this: [...]

]]> By: maxon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-61053 maxon Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:00:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-61053 hey ruth, i'm one of those people who didn't hear about "refineries closure conspiracy". could you please provide some links. hey ruth,
i’m one of those people who didn’t hear about “refineries closure conspiracy”. could you please provide some links.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Chinese excuses http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-60614 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Chinese excuses Wed, 31 May 2006 20:56:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-60614 [...] Semel also said: Mr. Semel went on: “I don’t think any one company is going to change a country, and I dont think any one industry is going to change a country. ”… See Amnesty International’s call on companies as well as countries to support the cause of freedom. He continues: Still, Mr. Semel said progress is being made, noting that the Chinese know more about American culture than ever before, thanks in no small part to the Internet. “To me, it’s about keeping the information flowing. Little by little, we start to bring about change.” [...] [...] Semel also said: Mr. Semel went on: “I don’t think any one company is going to change a country, and I dont think any one industry is going to change a country. ”… See Amnesty International’s call on companies as well as countries to support the cause of freedom. He continues: Still, Mr. Semel said progress is being made, noting that the Chinese know more about American culture than ever before, thanks in no small part to the Internet. “To me, it’s about keeping the information flowing. Little by little, we start to bring about change.” [...]

]]> By: Will Pollard http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-59310 Will Pollard Tue, 30 May 2006 10:54:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-59310 Jeff, do you have a view on the UK Official Secrets Act and the forthcoming court case around a leaked document which, as reported in the Daily Mirror, appears to refer to a discussion about possible bombing of the offices of a TV station? Bombing buildings with people inside could restrict freedom of speech. Also there are a couple of people, a former civil servant and a researcher for a sometime MP, who may well end up in jail for leaking a memo of the discussion. This is all happening in the UK but in the US there really is a tradition of freedom of information so a bit more reporting would be a welcome contribution. Jeff, do you have a view on the UK Official Secrets Act and the forthcoming court case around a leaked document which, as reported in the Daily Mirror, appears to refer to a discussion about possible bombing of the offices of a TV station? Bombing buildings with people inside could restrict freedom of speech. Also there are a couple of people, a former civil servant and a researcher for a sometime MP, who may well end up in jail for leaking a memo of the discussion.

This is all happening in the UK but in the US there really is a tradition of freedom of information so a bit more reporting would be a welcome contribution.

]]> By: ruth http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58680 ruth Mon, 29 May 2006 18:54:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58680 The importance of internet information flow was brought home to me recently by a chat with a friend who thinks that the WSJournal is the only respectable news source. He had no idea that the memo had been unearthed, passed among oil companies ten years ago, deciding that refineries should be closed to limit sources, and raise prices, for gasoline. I think I made one convert by giving a number of sources and passing on that vital info. What must it be like, not to be able to find out basics of life? Yes, the internet must be free. The importance of internet information flow was brought home to me recently by a chat with a friend who thinks that the WSJournal is the only respectable news source. He had no idea that the memo had been unearthed, passed among oil companies ten years ago, deciding that refineries should be closed to limit sources, and raise prices, for gasoline. I think I made one convert by giving a number of sources and passing on that vital info. What must it be like, not to be able to find out basics of life? Yes, the internet must be free.

]]> By: j http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58488 j Mon, 29 May 2006 11:17:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58488 I signed up. great article J. -j I signed up.
great article J.
-j

]]> By: Jon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58261 Jon Sun, 28 May 2006 23:58:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58261 "It would help Amnesty’s cause if the would learn to fucking spell!" It's inevitable that when a newspaper writes a headline about illiteracy, it misspells "illiteracy" . . . Further deponent sayeth not “It would help Amnesty’s cause if the would learn to fucking spell!”

It’s inevitable that when a newspaper writes a headline about illiteracy, it misspells “illiteracy” . . .

Further deponent sayeth not

]]> By: Dixie Hicks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58252 Dixie Hicks Sun, 28 May 2006 23:39:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58252 It would help Amnesty's cause if the would <i>learn to fucking spell!</i> They've spent too much time reading Jarvis's crap. It would help Amnesty’s cause if the would learn to fucking spell! They’ve spent too much time reading Jarvis’s crap.

]]> By: mediadavid http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58123 mediadavid Sun, 28 May 2006 19:58:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58123 I too have been amazed that so called "information" companies have been so quick to bend over for a quick buck. and it's hard to come up with a more hollow excuse than "we were just following the local orders." undoubtedly, they will come to regret and apologize for those sentiments some few years down the road. but i guess they figure, 'hey, how can we not be in China, etc?" I too have been amazed that so called “information” companies have been so quick to bend over for a quick buck.

and it’s hard to come up with a more hollow excuse than “we were just following the local orders.”

undoubtedly, they will come to regret and apologize for those sentiments some few years down the road.

but i guess they figure, ‘hey, how can we not be in China, etc?”

]]> By: Usual Suspect http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58109 Usual Suspect Sun, 28 May 2006 19:27:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58109 What's amnesty's thoughts on Google removing conservative sites for "hate speech" from search results? What’s amnesty’s thoughts on Google removing conservative sites for “hate speech” from search results?

]]> By: Usual Suspect http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58107 Usual Suspect Sun, 28 May 2006 19:25:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58107 "People have the right to seek and receive information and to express their peaceful beliefs online without fear or interference." And non peaceful beliefs? Those are beyond the pale? Why would Jeff sign such a limited pledge? “People have the right to seek and receive information and to express their peaceful beliefs online without fear or interference.”

And non peaceful beliefs? Those are beyond the pale? Why would Jeff sign such a limited pledge?

]]> By: pacific_waters http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-58099 pacific_waters Sun, 28 May 2006 19:21:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-58099 Most middle east nations, Dubai, a "partner" in the "war on terror", included, block many websites as well. Most middle east nations, Dubai, a “partner” in the “war on terror”, included, block many websites as well.

]]> By: Robert Feinman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/05/28/in-the-cause-of-freedom/#comment-57850 Robert Feinman Sun, 28 May 2006 14:28:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1581#comment-57850 Well there is no place to interact with these people. No viewer comments and not even an email contact form. If the idea is to get people involved then material from viewers would seem to be a key component. There is also no acknowledgement of the use of disinformation as a way to influence opinion. Censorship is only one technique. China, for example, now has shills on college campuses "directing" chat group conversations. A good first step, but they need to get intereactive. Well there is no place to interact with these people. No viewer comments and not even an email contact form.

If the idea is to get people involved then material from viewers would seem to be a key component.

There is also no acknowledgement of the use of disinformation as a way to influence opinion. Censorship is only one technique. China, for example, now has shills on college campuses “directing” chat group conversations.

A good first step, but they need to get intereactive.

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