Comments on: The first W http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:36:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Muhammad Azeem Akhter http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-90685 Muhammad Azeem Akhter Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:47:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-90685 The number of Americans murdered every year by guns is much more higher than the number of people killed during terrorist attacks on September 11. What is the religion of these murderers? The number of Americans murdered every year by guns is much more higher than the number of people killed during terrorist attacks on September 11.

What is the religion of these murderers?

]]> By: Kat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-66251 Kat Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:35:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-66251 no, not religious extremists--muslim extremists. Only an idiot or terrorist enabler would use the abortion excuse and be blind to the common thread in the murder of innocents in New York, Bali, Spain, Britain, etc. and the plan to kill innocent Canadians. Let's call these terrorists what they are--muslims. no, not religious extremists–muslim extremists. Only an idiot or terrorist enabler would use the abortion excuse and be blind to the common thread in the murder of innocents in New York, Bali, Spain, Britain, etc. and the plan to kill innocent Canadians.
Let’s call these terrorists what they are–muslims.

]]> By: Laika's Last Woof http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65925 Laika's Last Woof Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:47:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65925 "Religious extremists" should work just fine -- no one is fingering the Religion of Peace(TM) here; that's left up to the audience to figure out, at least until Muslim terrorists start bombing abortion clinics. “Religious extremists” should work just fine — no one is fingering the Religion of Peace(TM) here; that’s left up to the audience to figure out, at least until Muslim terrorists start bombing abortion clinics.

]]> By: Yankee Wombat | An American in Oz http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65426 Yankee Wombat | An American in Oz Wed, 07 Jun 2006 06:06:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65426 [...] The recent arrests in Canada of a suspected  Muslim Terrorist group have generated some remarkable politically correct reporting. I’m not talking about the reports treating the suspects as innocent until proven guilty. That is fine, and as it should be. I’m talking about the press avoiding discussing the suspected terrorists Muslim identity and jihadi ideology.  Jeff Jarvis at Buzzmachine http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/ which does a lot of astute media criticism, catches the New York Times doing some remarkably poor reporting. (Ironically, I have recently written about them doing some exemplary reporting lately here.) [...] [...] The recent arrests in Canada of a suspected  Muslim Terrorist group have generated some remarkable politically correct reporting. I’m not talking about the reports treating the suspects as innocent until proven guilty. That is fine, and as it should be. I’m talking about the press avoiding discussing the suspected terrorists Muslim identity and jihadi ideology.  Jeff Jarvis at Buzzmachine http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/ which does a lot of astute media criticism, catches the New York Times doing some remarkably poor reporting. (Ironically, I have recently written about them doing some exemplary reporting lately here.) [...]

]]> By: Kat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65282 Kat Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:49:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65282 Maybe beheading koranimals--they supposedly planned to behead the Canadian PM. What sick SOBS these f'ers are. Maybe beheading koranimals–they supposedly planned to behead the Canadian PM. What sick SOBS these f’ers are.

]]> By: Mark McLemore http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65169 Mark McLemore Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:16:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-65169 Islam-mofohs. Islam-mofohs.

]]> By: Barry 0351 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64937 Barry 0351 Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:23:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64937 Gomer's Hajji target Take your pick as long as eventually they are called "dead" Gomer’s
Hajji
target
Take your pick as long as eventually they are called “dead”

]]> By: AST http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64920 AST Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:44:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64920 Don't bother trying to find a new name. The same thing will happen to whatever euphemism you come up with, because the original meaning will still attach, e.g. gravedigger, embalmer, undertaker, mortician, funeral director, etc. Terrorist, insurgent, militant, jihadi, disaffected, unassimilated, fascist Muslims, Islamofascists, Islamoimperialists. Whatever you call them, it boils down to two common factors: 1. they claim to be Muslims, and 2. they seek to violently overthrow the western societies in which they live. They certainly don't understand what Sharia law would do to these societies (India v. Pakistan). It seems that the subtext of Islam is that people aren't equal; Muslim men deserve to be at the top and live lives of leisure. They don't seem to grasp that the result of their activities would ever be poverty for everybody. But there are so many contradictions within Islamic teachings already, that logic doesn't have to apply. Don’t bother trying to find a new name. The same thing will happen to whatever euphemism you come up with, because the original meaning will still attach, e.g. gravedigger, embalmer, undertaker, mortician, funeral director, etc.

Terrorist, insurgent, militant, jihadi, disaffected, unassimilated, fascist Muslims, Islamofascists, Islamoimperialists. Whatever you call them, it boils down to two common factors: 1. they claim to be Muslims, and 2. they seek to violently overthrow the western societies in which they live.

They certainly don’t understand what Sharia law would do to these societies (India v. Pakistan). It seems that the subtext of Islam is that people aren’t equal; Muslim men deserve to be at the top and live lives of leisure. They don’t seem to grasp that the result of their activities would ever be poverty for everybody. But there are so many contradictions within Islamic teachings already, that logic doesn’t have to apply.

]]> By: Ken http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64910 Ken Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:30:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64910 Let's do a mind experiment and imagine that 19 fundamentalist Christians were arested after ordering several tons of fertilizer to blow up abortion clinics, and that 6 of the persons arrested belonged to the same fundamentalist church in Omaha. You think the NYT might reveal the "first W" in those circumstances? Or if members of a white southern religious group plotted to blow up black churches? Let’s do a mind experiment and imagine that 19 fundamentalist Christians were arested after ordering several tons of fertilizer to blow up abortion clinics, and that 6 of the persons arrested belonged to the same fundamentalist church in Omaha. You think the NYT might reveal the “first W” in those circumstances? Or if members of a white southern religious group plotted to blow up black churches?

]]> By: Daniel in Brookline http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64897 Daniel in Brookline Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:06:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64897 <blockquote><i>Maybe we need a nickname for terrorists to get around the new PC effort not to offend anyone esxcept Americans.</i></blockquote> I think the press should call them 'Zionists'. The term has fallen out of favor anyway, particularly among the left and the media, so it's at least theoretically available. Another advantage: the day a major publication announces that Islamofascist terrorists are all Zionists, heads will explode all over the Arab world... which will make it easy to round up what's left of the terror cells. cheers, Daniel in Brookline

Maybe we need a nickname for terrorists to get around the new PC effort not to offend anyone esxcept Americans.

I think the press should call them ‘Zionists’. The term has fallen out of favor anyway, particularly among the left and the media, so it’s at least theoretically available.

Another advantage: the day a major publication announces that Islamofascist terrorists are all Zionists, heads will explode all over the Arab world… which will make it easy to round up what’s left of the terror cells.

cheers,
Daniel in Brookline

]]> By: Annoying Old Guy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64847 Annoying Old Guy Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:24:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64847 "Caliphascist", because they're fascists who want to bring back the Caliphate. “Caliphascist”, because they’re fascists who want to bring back the Caliphate.

]]> By: Patricia http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64843 Patricia Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:13:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64843 I also read about the imam begging for "money for research" into this puzzling (to PC idiots) problem. He has adapted well to the West! He is following in the steps of all the other race-based organizations like LULAC, La Raza, and even Jesse Jackson, who line their pockets with the fruits of white guilt. I also read about the imam begging for “money for research” into this puzzling (to PC idiots) problem. He has adapted well to the West! He is following in the steps of all the other race-based organizations like LULAC, La Raza, and even Jesse Jackson, who line their pockets with the fruits of white guilt.

]]> By: Tantor http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64822 Tantor Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:40:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64822 Isn't it ironic that the main purpose of the liberal media is not to deliver the facts but to obscure them? Isn’t it ironic that the main purpose of the liberal media is not to deliver the facts but to obscure them?

]]> By: Gerald http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64788 Gerald Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:36:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64788 not an original term but I like 'Islamonazis' not an original term but I like ‘Islamonazis’

]]> By: sbw http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64731 sbw Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:44:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64731 Abstract one level of thought to see the real bigotry which is the <i>Times</i> prejudice that readers haven't the intellectual horsepower to distinguish between Muslims (in this case) who throw bombs and those who don't. If readers don't have enough intellectual acumen to discern the difference, then the problem is a failure of education. Oe the other hand, if reporters do not report clearly and completely enough to give readers the opportunity to disccern the difference, then the problem is a failure of education. Abstract one level of thought to see the real bigotry which is the Times prejudice that readers haven’t the intellectual horsepower to distinguish between Muslims (in this case) who throw bombs and those who don’t.

If readers don’t have enough intellectual acumen to discern the difference, then the problem is a failure of education. Oe the other hand, if reporters do not report clearly and completely enough to give readers the opportunity to disccern the difference, then the problem is a failure of education.

]]> By: HA http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64693 HA Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:17:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64693 Jeff, <i>not to offend anyone esxcept Americans.</i> Actually, the only Americans you can offend are straight, white, Christian, males. Everybody else, comprising approximately 65% of the population is off limits, being members of one PC protected class or another. Ooops, I forgot to mention the Jews. You're encouraged to offend Jews as long as you refer to them as Zionists. Jews good. Zionists bad. Jeff,

not to offend anyone esxcept Americans.

Actually, the only Americans you can offend are straight, white, Christian, males. Everybody else, comprising approximately 65% of the population is off limits, being members of one PC protected class or another.

Ooops, I forgot to mention the Jews. You’re encouraged to offend Jews as long as you refer to them as Zionists. Jews good. Zionists bad.

]]> By: Porkpie http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64658 Porkpie Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:13:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64658 Is "Serial-homicide cultists" too descriptive? It's kinda technical. Is “Serial-homicide cultists” too descriptive? It’s kinda technical.

]]> By: Orson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64603 Orson Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:03:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64603 "Muzzies." “Muzzies.”

]]> By: Foobarista http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64602 Foobarista Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:02:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64602 All I'll say is that NYT stock will be trading on the pink sheets soon and maybe you'll buy the company for a buck and a half and fix it up. They have some nice Manhattan real estate, in addition to various old-media properties that can be remarketed or closed as convenient. They may even have a buzz machine or two! All I’ll say is that NYT stock will be trading on the pink sheets soon and maybe you’ll buy the company for a buck and a half and fix it up. They have some nice Manhattan real estate, in addition to various old-media properties that can be remarketed or closed as convenient. They may even have a buzz machine or two!

]]> By: TVD http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64523 TVD Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:27:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64523 "Anti-gay activists." “Anti-gay activists.”

]]> By: penny http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64488 penny Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:48:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64488 Oh, but, Jeff, in the pc and muliti-culti muzzled editorial room of the NYT's anyone identifying a minority groups dysfunctional behavior can only be a racist at heart. (nitko's above bizarre utterance, in lock step with the NYT's attitude, makes my point.) How ludicrous, 30 years into Islamofascism's global reign of terror, is it that the white men at the Times can't utter the words Muslim terrorist? The body count keeps mounting and these guilty little white boys at the NYT's are forbidden to identify the perpetrators. How would that have played during WWII? Like their self-censorship during the Cartoon War, where they could report the incident but not show the cartoons to us, reporting on a major terrorist plot and not describing the suspects as Muslims is just as lame. We all know they weren't Swedes affiliated with the Lutheran church. The sniveling burqa clad journos at the Times surrendered logic, reason and honesty a long time ago. And, Gregdn, you worry about getting out of Iraq. It's not a worry of mine. I approve of us there. I worry more about how pc has aided and abetted the enemy over the years. Oh, but, Jeff, in the pc and muliti-culti muzzled editorial room of the NYT’s anyone identifying a minority groups dysfunctional behavior can only be a racist at heart. (nitko’s above bizarre utterance, in lock step with the NYT’s attitude, makes my point.)

How ludicrous, 30 years into Islamofascism’s global reign of terror, is it that the white men at the Times can’t utter the words Muslim terrorist? The body count keeps mounting and these guilty little white boys at the NYT’s are forbidden to identify the perpetrators. How would that have played during WWII?

Like their self-censorship during the Cartoon War, where they could report the incident but not show the cartoons to us, reporting on a major terrorist plot and not describing the suspects as Muslims is just as lame. We all know they weren’t Swedes affiliated with the Lutheran church.

The sniveling burqa clad journos at the Times surrendered logic, reason and honesty a long time ago.

And, Gregdn, you worry about getting out of Iraq. It’s not a worry of mine. I approve of us there. I worry more about how pc has aided and abetted the enemy over the years.

]]> By: Ravo http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64475 Ravo Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:23:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64475 Read the first few lines in this scan of page A3 of Sunday’s Toronto Star. It would be hard to even make this stuff up. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20915_Toronto_Star-_Hard_to_Find_a_Common_Denominator Read the first few lines in this scan of page A3 of Sunday’s Toronto Star.

It would be hard to even make this stuff up.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20915_Toronto_Star-_Hard_to_Find_a_Common_Denominator

]]> By: Don Surber http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64471 Don Surber Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:14:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64471 <strong>None dare call them Muslims</strong> This is the NYT. Why not "victims of Bush's ill-tempered, unilateral, oil-driven policies that favor the rich while ignoring the plight of disaffected and underemployed youths in the emerging world"? None dare call them Muslims

This is the NYT. Why not “victims of Bush’s ill-tempered, unilateral, oil-driven policies that favor the rich while ignoring the plight of disaffected and underemployed youths in the emerging world”?

]]> By: Scott Free http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64470 Scott Free Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:14:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64470 How about 'splody-dope' - or is that too LGF? How about ’splody-dope’ - or is that too LGF?

]]> By: _Jon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64469 _Jon Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:13:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/06/04/the-first-w/#comment-64469 Here in Detroit, we call them: Hadjis I'm told that's what the military in the Sand Bowl call them too. Here in Detroit, we call them:

Hadjis

I’m told that’s what the military in the Sand Bowl call them too.

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