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		<title>By: think mojo &#187; Science as entertainment</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-80074</link>
		<dc:creator>think mojo &#187; Science as entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve said it before, but these guys are as entertaining as they are clever. They are also providing an essential service - they are making science interesting and entertaining.Â Continuing to lead the rest of MSM in new media, the Guardian is the only newspaper I know of prepared to take a punt on a group of science journalists sitting around having a chat in a studio being entertaining and informative. No wonder Jeff Jarvis raves about them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve said it before, but these guys are as entertaining as they are clever. They are also providing an essential service &#8211; they are making science interesting and entertaining.Â Continuing to lead the rest of MSM in new media, the Guardian is the only newspaper I know of prepared to take a punt on a group of science journalists sitting around having a chat in a studio being entertaining and informative. No wonder Jeff Jarvis raves about them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iBjorn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Digg Clone Named Netscape and New-Age Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-70135</link>
		<dc:creator>iBjorn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Digg Clone Named Netscape and New-Age Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Related articles from Jeff Jarvis&#039;s BuzzMachine. Very forward thinking approach of shifting their readership online. ST will probably do this after the whole world&#039;s done it and its no longer new. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Related articles from Jeff Jarvis&#39;s BuzzMachine. Very forward thinking approach of shifting their readership online. ST will probably do this after the whole world&#39;s done it and its no longer new. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bateman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-69534</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Horowitz, why do you believe your son will not be able to go to university because of his Jewish origin? What evidence do you offer? I read The Guardian every day and have no hatred of Jews. Or any people for that matter. I don&#039;t understand your paranoia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Horowitz, why do you believe your son will not be able to go to university because of his Jewish origin? What evidence do you offer? I read The Guardian every day and have no hatred of Jews. Or any people for that matter. I don&#8217;t understand your paranoia.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Horowitz</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-69012</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Horowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Guardian Newspapers Limited chief Carolyn McCall recently said that the companyâ€™s ambition is global and its focus clear:

    â€œOur ambition is to be the leading global liberal voiceâ€¦&quot;

I find this terrifying. US readers may not appreciate what an English paper understands by liberalism. For the Guardian, it entails an obssessive hatred of Israel with almost daily attacks in either stories or opinions. I wrote them suggesting that they just write &quot;Israel est delenda&quot; on their masthead and have done with it, but they did not get round to this yet.

Secondly, this is starting to spill over into hostility towards Jews as a whole. At the more educated levels of society, this translates into bitter and vile abuse; lower down, it is physical attacks - it&#039;s true that one cannot pin all this down on the Guardian but it must bear some of the responsibility for creating an atmosphere potentially against the Jews. 

The situation is worst in the educational sector - one where, I suspect, the paper is most read. I believe that my son will be unable to go to university because of his Jewish origin - by the time he is old enough, there will eb a de facto if not de jure ban. I am happy that he is a US citizen and able to come back to a society basically friendly to Jews. As I said, it is horrifying that the Guardian will be doing its best to change that too.

I have seen the damage that 30 years of relentless propaganda against Israel has done to that country (limited though, as is Britain&#039;s current standing in the Middle East) and more seriously to the Jews of Britain. I certainly hope this does not happen in the US too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Guardian Newspapers Limited chief Carolyn McCall recently said that the companyâ€™s ambition is global and its focus clear:</p>
<p>    â€œOur ambition is to be the leading global liberal voiceâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>I find this terrifying. US readers may not appreciate what an English paper understands by liberalism. For the Guardian, it entails an obssessive hatred of Israel with almost daily attacks in either stories or opinions. I wrote them suggesting that they just write &#8220;Israel est delenda&#8221; on their masthead and have done with it, but they did not get round to this yet.</p>
<p>Secondly, this is starting to spill over into hostility towards Jews as a whole. At the more educated levels of society, this translates into bitter and vile abuse; lower down, it is physical attacks &#8211; it&#8217;s true that one cannot pin all this down on the Guardian but it must bear some of the responsibility for creating an atmosphere potentially against the Jews. </p>
<p>The situation is worst in the educational sector &#8211; one where, I suspect, the paper is most read. I believe that my son will be unable to go to university because of his Jewish origin &#8211; by the time he is old enough, there will eb a de facto if not de jure ban. I am happy that he is a US citizen and able to come back to a society basically friendly to Jews. As I said, it is horrifying that the Guardian will be doing its best to change that too.</p>
<p>I have seen the damage that 30 years of relentless propaganda against Israel has done to that country (limited though, as is Britain&#8217;s current standing in the Middle East) and more seriously to the Jews of Britain. I certainly hope this does not happen in the US too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Post #2 (Blog Response blog post due June 13, 2006)</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68940</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Post #2 (Blog Response blog post due June 13, 2006)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Continuing Decline Of Print Newspapers</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68870</link>
		<dc:creator>Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Continuing Decline Of Print Newspapers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis is writing about this announcement from the Guardian, a London-based newspaper: The Guardian will become the first British national newspaper to offer a &#8220;web first&#8221; service that will see major news by foreign correspondents and business journalists put online before it appears in the paper. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis is writing about this announcement from the Guardian, a London-based newspaper: The Guardian will become the first British national newspaper to offer a &#8220;web first&#8221; service that will see major news by foreign correspondents and business journalists put online before it appears in the paper. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Grant-Adamson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68775</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Grant-Adamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second point about the change in newsroom culture is spot on and Rusbridger&#039;s email is enlightening. It will be fascinating to see how the editing processes will work with copy going first on the web which does not have the same length restrictions as paper.

On the first point about driving readers from print to online, I am not so sure. In my own blog yesterday I argued that the web has helped create a brand awareness which may be one of the factors helping the Guardian sales to do rather better than most UK newspapers. Without the web audience in the USA I doubt if they would be planning the print in five cities across the states. Sales may not be large but the print option goes alongside the web at least in the medium term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second point about the change in newsroom culture is spot on and Rusbridger&#8217;s email is enlightening. It will be fascinating to see how the editing processes will work with copy going first on the web which does not have the same length restrictions as paper.</p>
<p>On the first point about driving readers from print to online, I am not so sure. In my own blog yesterday I argued that the web has helped create a brand awareness which may be one of the factors helping the Guardian sales to do rather better than most UK newspapers. Without the web audience in the USA I doubt if they would be planning the print in five cities across the states. Sales may not be large but the print option goes alongside the web at least in the medium term.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68622</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note, I was impressed to discover that WNYC/NPR&#039;s &quot;On The Media&quot; puts its segments online for download before the show actually airs on the radio.  Makes perfect sense to me:  when it&#039;s &quot;baked&quot; (sorry, lingering effect of your mad, mad metaphors), put it out there by the fastest means possible.  This doesn&#039;t detract from letting those who enjoy the traditional newspaper, radio, or whatever experience continue to have that experience in the usual way on the usual timetable.  Seems to me this kind of move simply maximizes the audience.  While it ultimately may lure (or drive) more people to the online experience, that&#039;s inevitable anyway.  May as well be in there figuring out how to make the online experience just as compelling and profitable as the traditional ones, if not more so.

As Steve Jobs quipped at the inaugural D: Conference:  &quot;People couldn&#039;t type. We realized: Death would eventually take care of this.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note, I was impressed to discover that WNYC/NPR&#8217;s &#8220;On The Media&#8221; puts its segments online for download before the show actually airs on the radio.  Makes perfect sense to me:  when it&#8217;s &#8220;baked&#8221; (sorry, lingering effect of your mad, mad metaphors), put it out there by the fastest means possible.  This doesn&#8217;t detract from letting those who enjoy the traditional newspaper, radio, or whatever experience continue to have that experience in the usual way on the usual timetable.  Seems to me this kind of move simply maximizes the audience.  While it ultimately may lure (or drive) more people to the online experience, that&#8217;s inevitable anyway.  May as well be in there figuring out how to make the online experience just as compelling and profitable as the traditional ones, if not more so.</p>
<p>As Steve Jobs quipped at the inaugural D: Conference:  &#8220;People couldn&#8217;t type. We realized: Death would eventually take care of this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68571</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think of my $75 Billion Newspaper 2.0 Revenue model?

https://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/06/13/newspapers-20-75-billion-online-business-model/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think of my $75 Billion Newspaper 2.0 Revenue model?</p>
<p><a href="https://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/06/13/newspapers-20-75-billion-online-business-model/" rel="nofollow">https://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2006/06/13/newspapers-20-75-billion-online-business-model/</a></p>
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		<title>By: linda seebach</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68522</link>
		<dc:creator>linda seebach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a seismic change if it were new, but other papers, including the Rocky Mountain News in Denver, where I work (I do not speak for the Rocky), have done it for years (and more and more as people get used to the idea).

There used to be sentiment in the newsroom that we simply couldn&#039;t put our exclusives, our scoops, on the Web before the paper hit porches the next morning. What if the competition, The Denver Post, rushed to cobble together a story they put in their paper the next mornng? Alas, lost scoop!

Um, no. You scoop &#039;em on the Web, which is read around the world, they&#039;ve been scooped good and proper. (The fact that the papers have been in a joint operating agreement since 2001 has helped; we compete for readers, but only journalistically, not financially. The more readers, the better for both papers and it makes no difference which paper they read.)

No doubt there are exceptions decided above my pay grade, but essentially breaking news goes up on the Web as soon as it is written and edited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a seismic change if it were new, but other papers, including the Rocky Mountain News in Denver, where I work (I do not speak for the Rocky), have done it for years (and more and more as people get used to the idea).</p>
<p>There used to be sentiment in the newsroom that we simply couldn&#8217;t put our exclusives, our scoops, on the Web before the paper hit porches the next morning. What if the competition, The Denver Post, rushed to cobble together a story they put in their paper the next mornng? Alas, lost scoop!</p>
<p>Um, no. You scoop &#8216;em on the Web, which is read around the world, they&#8217;ve been scooped good and proper. (The fact that the papers have been in a joint operating agreement since 2001 has helped; we compete for readers, but only journalistically, not financially. The more readers, the better for both papers and it makes no difference which paper they read.)</p>
<p>No doubt there are exceptions decided above my pay grade, but essentially breaking news goes up on the Web as soon as it is written and edited.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Romanelli</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68474</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Romanelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit ignorance here, since I assumed The Guardian was doing this long ago. Indeed, I assumed all the major newspapers have been (we&#039;ve been doing it at Variety for several years now). It is an especially vital tactic for a small web operation like ours where we don&#039;t have online specific reporters. Anyone know the size/budget of the Guardian&#039;s web operation versus its print operations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit ignorance here, since I assumed The Guardian was doing this long ago. Indeed, I assumed all the major newspapers have been (we&#8217;ve been doing it at Variety for several years now). It is an especially vital tactic for a small web operation like ours where we don&#8217;t have online specific reporters. Anyone know the size/budget of the Guardian&#8217;s web operation versus its print operations?</p>
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		<title>By: chris muir</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68447</link>
		<dc:creator>chris muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seismic.Change.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bateman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68425</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusbridger and The Guardian are streets ahead of the competition. They are defining exactly what can be done with the &#039;dinosaurs&#039;&#039; online operations. As someone who&#039;s worked for both national online and paper operations I&#039;ve often wondered exactly what strategy most UK newspapers are employing with their sites. The Guardian are showing what can be achieved with a keen awareness of new media coupled with a clear direction for its site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusbridger and The Guardian are streets ahead of the competition. They are defining exactly what can be done with the &#8216;dinosaurs&#8221; online operations. As someone who&#8217;s worked for both national online and paper operations I&#8217;ve often wondered exactly what strategy most UK newspapers are employing with their sites. The Guardian are showing what can be achieved with a keen awareness of new media coupled with a clear direction for its site.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogspotting</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/06/12/driving-readers-online/#comment-68381</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogspotting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Back to Blogging&lt;/strong&gt;

Back to blogging after a couple of week&#039;s vacation in italy. </description>
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<p>Back to blogging after a couple of week&#8217;s vacation in italy.</p>
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