Comments on: Who needs critics? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:21:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: “Maybe You Should Write a Blog About It...” | Zoom In Online http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-381217 “Maybe You Should Write a Blog About It...” | Zoom In Online Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:06:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-381217 [...] interesting these days. In fact, bloggers are meant to be replacing traditional critics. Here’s a blog from two years ago calling salaried critics a thing of the past. And here’s another article on the subject published [...] [...] interesting these days. In fact, bloggers are meant to be replacing traditional critics. Here’s a blog from two years ago calling salaried critics a thing of the past. And here’s another article on the subject published [...]

]]> By: Lapre Fan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-181575 Lapre Fan Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:19:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-181575 The media is always going to be the media and they get more money and still have a workable budget that won't go away. Even if they move the TV and Newspaper (which I think they should with the paper anyway, for environmental resaons) Everyone at the network will just adapt into podcasts at 6:00 and 10:00 instead of TV> The media is always going to be the media and they get more money and still have a workable budget that won’t go away. Even if they move the TV and Newspaper (which I think they should with the paper anyway, for environmental resaons) Everyone at the network will just adapt into podcasts at 6:00 and 10:00 instead of TV>

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Critic on critics http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-92758 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Critic on critics Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:29:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-92758 [...] The kicker notwithstanding, I think this is the first third of what could be a very interesting column. The last two-thirds are missing. I’ll reprise my questions from this post: What is the role of the “professional” critic in an age when everybody is a critic (well, everybody always was, it’s just that we can hear them now)? What is the role of the critic in the age of the — pardon me — long tail, when no critic can possibly pretend anymore to watch everything or cover every interest? What is the role of the former audience in art when it can become fluid? There is an opportunity — a need — to redefine criticism in a new media age. I wish Scott would tackle that. [...] [...] The kicker notwithstanding, I think this is the first third of what could be a very interesting column. The last two-thirds are missing. I’ll reprise my questions from this post: What is the role of the “professional” critic in an age when everybody is a critic (well, everybody always was, it’s just that we can hear them now)? What is the role of the critic in the age of the — pardon me — long tail, when no critic can possibly pretend anymore to watch everything or cover every interest? What is the role of the former audience in art when it can become fluid? There is an opportunity — a need — to redefine criticism in a new media age. I wish Scott would tackle that. [...]

]]> By: Scott http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-90316 Scott Fri, 14 Jul 2006 06:39:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-90316 Atleast L.A Times needs critics............... You cancelled? I bet they don’t stop sending the paper. OR taking you off their subscription roles. So you don’t pay them. That’s it. But you’ll spend 39-cents per stamp, and time on the telephone TELLING them you’re cancelled. Makes no difference. You’ll still get their paper delivered. That's something happened with me. Atleast L.A Times needs critics……………

You cancelled? I bet they don’t stop sending the paper. OR taking you off their subscription roles.

So you don’t pay them. That’s it.

But you’ll spend 39-cents per stamp, and time on the telephone TELLING them you’re cancelled. Makes no difference. You’ll still get their paper delivered.

That’s something happened with me.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The rights of the author http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-90020 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The rights of the author Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:12:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-90020 [...] But in art, the author is the creator and has rights surrounding that creation. But that may change, too, as art itself becomes more collaborative. So what are the rights of the author? Do copyright and Creative Commons protect those rights? And what are the ethics of the remix? Is linking to the original sufficient? Is permission required? Is fair use a license to quote and thus to comment? Aren’t selection and alteration forms of comment? What rights does the audience have to change? In an age of the permalink and the deep link and the ability to track and compile consumption, in an age when consumption becomes an act of creation, isn’t that ability to just get to the good bits the audience likes a form of editing? [...] [...] But in art, the author is the creator and has rights surrounding that creation. But that may change, too, as art itself becomes more collaborative. So what are the rights of the author? Do copyright and Creative Commons protect those rights? And what are the ethics of the remix? Is linking to the original sufficient? Is permission required? Is fair use a license to quote and thus to comment? Aren’t selection and alteration forms of comment? What rights does the audience have to change? In an age of the permalink and the deep link and the ability to track and compile consumption, in an age when consumption becomes an act of creation, isn’t that ability to just get to the good bits the audience likes a form of editing? [...]

]]> By: Warren Bonesteel http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-88740 Warren Bonesteel Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:58:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-88740 I'm definitely going to have to make Buzz Machine one of my regular stops. Jeff, I'm impressed...and I'm not easily impressed. I’m definitely going to have to make Buzz Machine one of my regular stops.

Jeff, I’m impressed…and I’m not easily impressed.

]]> By: adslfan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-88525 adslfan Tue, 11 Jul 2006 05:20:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-88525 what happens to Roger Ebert - the movie review guy ? he still have a job at the newspaper a few years from now or do they let lay him off and get reviews from bloggers ? what happens to Roger Ebert – the movie review guy ?
he still have a job at the newspaper a few years from now or do they
let lay him off and get reviews from bloggers ?

]]> By: Steve Clancy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-88462 Steve Clancy Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:17:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-88462 I agree with a lot of your thoughts on critics, but I think you're criticsm of Gail Shister is a bit unfair. I'm from Philadelphia and read her column a lot in the Inquirer and I think her stuff is worthwhile for a local paper. She incorporates a lot local TV news into her columns, which I think of interest for people in the area. I should note that she's less of a critic and more of a entertainment news columnist. As far as blogging, you're probably right that she should get into it. She does do a weekly Q and A on their website that does engage readers more than something you would see in the paper. You're right though that criticism is overdone generally though. What is the Inquirer's film critic going to tell me about Pirates of the Carribean that Roger Ebert couldn't (besides the fact that Roger Ebert is currently on the D.L.). I agree with a lot of your thoughts on critics, but I think you’re criticsm of Gail Shister is a bit unfair. I’m from Philadelphia and read her column a lot in the Inquirer and I think her stuff is worthwhile for a local paper. She incorporates a lot local TV news into her columns, which I think of interest for people in the area. I should note that she’s less of a critic and more of a entertainment news columnist. As far as blogging, you’re probably right that she should get into it. She does do a weekly Q and A on their website that does engage readers more than something you would see in the paper. You’re right though that criticism is overdone generally though. What is the Inquirer’s film critic going to tell me about Pirates of the Carribean that Roger Ebert couldn’t (besides the fact that Roger Ebert is currently on the D.L.).

]]> By: Munir Umrani http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-88390 Munir Umrani Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:51:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-88390 Jeff, A great post. My wife and I were talking about this very thing this morning. It came in the context of news about the great box office draw of Pirates of the Caribbean. She noted that many critics had panned the film. I said they didn't matter anymore, and that more authentic voices could be found among bloggers who write about movies and Hollywood. Her response was: "I guess the real critics spoke this weekend." I had to agree. Jeff,

A great post. My wife and I were talking about this very thing this morning. It came in the context of news about the great box office draw of Pirates of the Caribbean. She noted that many critics had panned the film.

I said they didn’t matter anymore, and that more authentic voices could be found among bloggers who write about movies and Hollywood.

Her response was: “I guess the real critics spoke this weekend.”

I had to agree.

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/10/who-needs-critics-2/#comment-88324 Shawn Levasseur Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1751#comment-88324 Except for the tote bags you get for donating to public television. They'll be offering those from now until there is no public television. (I'm particularly fond of my 2000, Libertarian National Convention tote-bag, because it was sponsored by C-SPAN. In prior conventions only the press kit bags had the C-SPAN logo on them. I was jealous of the press for that. (Yeah, I know I'm weird.) Except for the tote bags you get for donating to public television. They’ll be offering those from now until there is no public television.

(I’m particularly fond of my 2000, Libertarian National Convention tote-bag, because it was sponsored by C-SPAN. In prior conventions only the press kit bags had the C-SPAN logo on them. I was jealous of the press for that. (Yeah, I know I’m weird.)

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