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]]> By: On The Turning Away » Dissent on Technorati’s Pop Blog List http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89962 On The Turning Away » Dissent on Technorati’s Pop Blog List Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:11:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89962 [...] Out of curiosity, we checked in Technorati for the goings-on. Despite the brouhaha over Rocketbottom’s going and coming of hottie host, Zidane remains the top search. Hooray, we’re in the company of the great and great-minded. [...] [...] Out of curiosity, we checked in Technorati for the goings-on. Despite the brouhaha over Rocketbottom’s going and coming of hottie host, Zidane remains the top search. Hooray, we’re in the company of the great and great-minded. [...]

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I know he meant in terms of that it changed MTV’s positon in media, not how it changed it, but I must say:

If “The Real World” is what the next generation of web media holds for us, I want out now.

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]]> By: robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » More Rocketboom Advice http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89878 robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » More Rocketboom Advice Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:56:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89878 [...] Jeff Jarvis posts some advice to Rocketboom from the pen of Fred Graver, executive producer of VH1’s Best Week Ever, and it’s the smartest commentary yet. One message: move on; nothing to see here, folks. Indeed. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis posts some advice to Rocketboom from the pen of Fred Graver, executive producer of VH1’s Best Week Ever, and it’s the smartest commentary yet. One message: move on; nothing to see here, folks. Indeed. [...]

]]> By: Shelley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89866 Shelley Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:23:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89866 "More importantly, everyone but Mr. Graver seems to understand that Amanda is far more than a “self-absorbed” actress. Mr. Graver implied here that Amanda was “the face” of Rocketboom, with little involvment in the actual writing, production and creation of the show. The New Media community knows that this is entirely false but it’s clear that Mr. Graver subscribes to “The Baron” old media philosophy that an attractive female can only be a host and a face, and not more." Other than the use of 'actress', which is outmoded, what Mr. Graver says of an actor like Congdon can be said of all actors everywhere, regardless of sex. How many times have we heard of the Talent leaving this show or that over 'creative differences'? I would say he's spot on in this regard. I found his writing to be refreshing and entertaining. Unfortunately, Mr. Jarvis' writing immediately following negated most of the charm. Neither of the RocketBoom people was very honest, I see little to respect, as both sounded rather pathetic in their po'me thrusts and counter-thrusts, and both milked the 'fans' for all their worth. There is nothing, at all, inherently noble about any of this...include the venue. As Mr Grazer rightfully points out: this is nothing but show biz, and these two are nothing more than the 'it' couple of the moment. Just like...I'm sorry, I've forgotten their names. But you know who I'm talking about. “More importantly, everyone but Mr. Graver seems to understand that Amanda is far more than a “self-absorbed” actress. Mr. Graver implied here that Amanda was “the face” of Rocketboom, with little involvment in the actual writing, production and creation of the show. The New Media community knows that this is entirely false but it’s clear that Mr. Graver subscribes to “The Baron” old media philosophy that an attractive female can only be a host and a face, and not more.”

Other than the use of ‘actress’, which is outmoded, what Mr. Graver says of an actor like Congdon can be said of all actors everywhere, regardless of sex. How many times have we heard of the Talent leaving this show or that over ‘creative differences’? I would say he’s spot on in this regard.

I found his writing to be refreshing and entertaining. Unfortunately, Mr. Jarvis’ writing immediately following negated most of the charm.

Neither of the RocketBoom people was very honest, I see little to respect, as both sounded rather pathetic in their po’me thrusts and counter-thrusts, and both milked the ‘fans’ for all their worth. There is nothing, at all, inherently noble about any of this…include the venue. As Mr Grazer rightfully points out: this is nothing but show biz, and these two are nothing more than the ‘it’ couple of the moment. Just like…I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten their names. But you know who I’m talking about.

]]> By: jaded_viewer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89842 jaded_viewer Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:49:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89842 Supporting Fred's perceptive comments on talent vs. production, isn’t Amanda Congdon just this year’s Daisy Donovan? Daisy's now a regular actress but as you may have forgotten her roving reporter/ executive producer stage, here's a shrine to remind us all: http://www.angelfire.com/tv/11Show/Daisy/Information.html Supporting Fred’s perceptive comments on talent vs. production, isn’t Amanda Congdon just this year’s Daisy Donovan?
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]]> By: PodTech Comments from the PodTech Gallery » GeekTV and Rocketboom http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89730 PodTech Comments from the PodTech Gallery » GeekTV and Rocketboom Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:20:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89730 [...] Regarding Rocketboom they both made it happen and both have the talent.  Jeff Jarvis guest Fred Graver has a post that goes into great detailed analysis (Dave Winer linked to it).  A snip from Fred Graver post… [...] [...] Regarding Rocketboom they both made it happen and both have the talent.  Jeff Jarvis guest Fred Graver has a post that goes into great detailed analysis (Dave Winer linked to it).  A snip from Fred Graver post… [...]

]]> By: Scripting News Annex » Scripting News for 7/12/2006 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89634 Scripting News Annex » Scripting News for 7/12/2006 Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:55:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89634 [...] A fantastic guest post on BuzzMachine from Fred Graver. Like Jeff Jarvis I’m rooting for both Amanda and Andrew, and now Joanne too, and for all the video bloggers who are pouring their hearts into this new medium. Me, I feel like an uncle. I was where these kids are now, when I was their age, a long time ago. Now I can help by helping them get the support they need, and looking for ways out of tight corners. I spoke with Andrew very briefly today, told him how blown away I was by today’s Rocketboom. So beautifully executed, by the seat of the pants.   [...] [...] A fantastic guest post on BuzzMachine from Fred Graver. Like Jeff Jarvis I’m rooting for both Amanda and Andrew, and now Joanne too, and for all the video bloggers who are pouring their hearts into this new medium. Me, I feel like an uncle. I was where these kids are now, when I was their age, a long time ago. Now I can help by helping them get the support they need, and looking for ways out of tight corners. I spoke with Andrew very briefly today, told him how blown away I was by today’s Rocketboom. So beautifully executed, by the seat of the pants.   [...]

]]> By: adslfan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89577 adslfan Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:59:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89577 maria menounous moved from ET to Access Hollywood. nobody seems to care and Amanda is probably way more popular than Maria at this point. jumping from 1 website to anohter is super easy . one of the digg guys can move to mypace jason c the weblogs guy moved to aol and became part of the mainstream media .. jeff can movie and become dell's blogger if dell gives jeff a computer that doesn't break down maria menounous moved from ET to Access Hollywood. nobody seems to
care and Amanda is probably way more popular than Maria at this point.

jumping from 1 website to anohter is super easy .

one of the digg guys can move to mypace

jason c the weblogs guy moved to aol and became part of the mainstream
media ..

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]]> By: Brian Clark http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89528 Brian Clark Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:46:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/12/guest-post-advice-for-rocketboom-from-a-pro/#comment-89528 I liked reading Fred's thoughts... but AJ does have a point. Chartreuse nailed the "Amanda is a VJ" analogy and posted a big ol' picture of Martha Quinn almost a week ago: http://chartreuse.wordpress.com/2006/07/06/rocket-boom/ But I suppose validation is nice from someone with Fred's cred. Let's hear more! And shame on Gizmodo... whoops! I liked reading Fred’s thoughts… but AJ does have a point. Chartreuse nailed the “Amanda is a VJ” analogy and posted a big ol’ picture of Martha Quinn almost a week ago:

http://chartreuse.wordpress.com/2006/07/06/rocket-boom/

But I suppose validation is nice from someone with Fred’s cred. Let’s hear more!

And shame on Gizmodo… whoops!

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