Comments on: Who the hell are we, anyway? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/ by Jeff Jarvis Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:17:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: fill ‘er up « the stories of our lives http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-377520 fill ‘er up « the stories of our lives Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:27:38 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-377520 [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...] [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...]

]]> By: fill ‘er up « the infotainment follies http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-377349 fill ‘er up « the infotainment follies Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:59:38 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-377349 [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...] [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...]

]]> By: fill ‘er up — infotainment rules http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-361605 fill ‘er up — infotainment rules Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:12:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-361605 [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...] [...] year, while Jeff Jarvis was still trying to explain the blogosphere to clueless MSMers, I posted a comment to his site that explains how and why I came to [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Journalism explodes http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-106224 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Journalism explodes Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:53:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-106224 [...] Most reaction to Pew’s recent survey of bloggers focused on the majority who do not think they are journalists. But I prefer Agenda, Inc.’s focus on those who do: According to a study published last month by the Pew Internet & American Life Project, there are twelve million bloggers in the United States, and thirty-four per cent of them consider blogging to be a form of journalism. That would add up to more than four million newly minted journalists just among the ranks of American bloggers. If you add everyone abroad, and everyone who practices other forms of Web journalism, the profession must have increased in size a thousandfold over the last decade. [...] [...] Most reaction to Pew’s recent survey of bloggers focused on the majority who do not think they are journalists. But I prefer Agenda, Inc.’s focus on those who do: According to a study published last month by the Pew Internet & American Life Project, there are twelve million bloggers in the United States, and thirty-four per cent of them consider blogging to be a form of journalism. That would add up to more than four million newly minted journalists just among the ranks of American bloggers. If you add everyone abroad, and everyone who practices other forms of Web journalism, the profession must have increased in size a thousandfold over the last decade. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Talk of the town http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-99915 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Talk of the town Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:18:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-99915 [...] He fails to hear the many voices of internet journalism and discussion, a variety of tones and attitudes as broad and varied as the moods of all the citizens who make it up. Lemann does acknowledge last week’s small Pew survey that revealed most bloggers do not think of what they do as journalism; they think of it as life. So if journalists want to report on and understand and serve the public, then they should realize that they have never had such a golden opportunity to listen to their public. [...] [...] He fails to hear the many voices of internet journalism and discussion, a variety of tones and attitudes as broad and varied as the moods of all the citizens who make it up. Lemann does acknowledge last week’s small Pew survey that revealed most bloggers do not think of what they do as journalism; they think of it as life. So if journalists want to report on and understand and serve the public, then they should realize that they have never had such a golden opportunity to listen to their public. [...]

]]> By: The PC De-Crapifier ~ Chris Pirillo http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-97211 The PC De-Crapifier ~ Chris Pirillo Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:14:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-97211 [...] Long overdue: an OEM’s worst nightmare. Jeff Jarvis oughta love it, but I doubt Dell will. Nothing illegal here: The PC De-Crapifier is designed to remove a specific list unwanted software in an unattended fashion. Before running, the user may select exactly what software should be removed. Currently, it is targeted for use on most Dell machines; however it will theoretically run on anything that has the software listed below… [...] [...] Long overdue: an OEM’s worst nightmare. Jeff Jarvis oughta love it, but I doubt Dell will. Nothing illegal here: The PC De-Crapifier is designed to remove a specific list unwanted software in an unattended fashion. Before running, the user may select exactly what software should be removed. Currently, it is targeted for use on most Dell machines; however it will theoretically run on anything that has the software listed below… [...]

]]> By: vrypan|net|log » links for 2006-07-26 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96984 vrypan|net|log » links for 2006-07-26 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:17:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96984 [...] Who the hell are we, anyway? Some interesting thoughts on Pew blog report (tags: blogging socialmedia) [...] [...] Who the hell are we, anyway? Some interesting thoughts on Pew blog report (tags: blogging socialmedia) [...]

]]> By: Laurent Flores http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96969 Laurent Flores Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:25:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96969 Hi Jeff - interesting analysis, thank you... you may look at the French Profile of people in blogs... interesting insights there through Baroblogs, see below: http://customerlistening.typepad.com/customer_listening/2006/07/tes.html Will be interesting in your ideas! thanks, Laurent Hi Jeff - interesting analysis, thank you… you may look at the French Profile of people in blogs… interesting insights there through Baroblogs, see below:

http://customerlistening.typepad.com/customer_listening/2006/07/tes.html

Will be interesting in your ideas!

thanks, Laurent

]]> By: NAOMI http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96728 NAOMI Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:24:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96728 This post was great Jeff. It made me smile, especially the bit about one in four British internet users keeping a blog. I’m one of them. You can find me at www.diaryfromengland.blogspot.com I use my blog to express myself and regard it as my little soapbox on what’s going on in England. NAOMI This post was great Jeff. It made me smile, especially the bit about one in four British internet users keeping a blog. I’m one of them. You can find me at http://www.diaryfromengland.blogspot.com I use my blog to express myself and regard it as my little soapbox on what’s going on in England.

NAOMI

]]> By: hepzeeba http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96370 hepzeeba Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:28:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96370 An open letter to "Someone We'd Know": We are longtime thinkers and readers and writers who went to the same schools as MSMers (No insult intended. Some of my best friends are MSMers.) but decided to pursue careers and professions other than journalism. We make our living doing other things, but we continue to read and to be engaged by the dynamic world around us and by the world of ideas. We like to read. We like to write. We like to make fun of what we oberve in public life, like in MST3K. We like to debate. We understand rhetoric. We know how to check facts and sources. It's not journalism, though--few of us are out there bearing witness or interviewing people or acquiring other primary-source material (although with the advent of podcasting and various blogging consortia, that may be changing). It's...I dunno. Maybe blogging is "opinion reporting." We're different from journalists, because we seek to mix it up with our readers. We're looking for conversation and debate. We want to be involved in the intellectual/cultural life of our country (such as it is). Some of us are tired of shouting back at the talking heads on TV and NPR and at editorial writers and columnists. We have areas of expertise and opinions, too. The blogosphere is where thinking people go to debate the politics of the day, the ideas of public intellectuals, and the opinions of paid opinion writers. It’s where the national conversation is taking place. Be there or be square. An open letter to “Someone We’d Know”:

We are longtime thinkers and readers and writers who went to the same schools as MSMers (No insult intended. Some of my best friends are MSMers.) but decided to pursue careers and professions other than journalism. We make our living doing other things, but we continue to read and to be engaged by the dynamic world around us and by the world of ideas. We like to read. We like to write. We like to make fun of what we oberve in public life, like in MST3K. We like to debate. We understand rhetoric. We know how to check facts and sources.

It’s not journalism, though–few of us are out there bearing witness or interviewing people or acquiring other primary-source material (although with the advent of podcasting and various blogging consortia, that may be changing).

It’s…I dunno. Maybe blogging is “opinion reporting.”

We’re different from journalists, because we seek to mix it up with our readers. We’re looking for conversation and debate. We want to be involved in the intellectual/cultural life of our country (such as it is). Some of us are tired of shouting back at the talking heads on TV and NPR and at editorial writers and columnists. We have areas of expertise and opinions, too.

The blogosphere is where thinking people go to debate the politics of the day, the ideas of public intellectuals, and the opinions of paid opinion writers. It’s where the national conversation is taking place. Be there or be square.

]]> By: All About Nothing » Blog Archive » Blog and social media studies http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96275 All About Nothing » Blog Archive » Blog and social media studies Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:07:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96275 [...] Update: Jeff over at Buzzmachine has also covered this in a bit more detail. [...] [...] Update: Jeff over at Buzzmachine has also covered this in a bit more detail. [...]

]]> By: ruth http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96259 ruth Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:28:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96259 What about pajamas? and pictures of cats? This ignores the beloved blogger stereotype so I must go blog about it. What about pajamas? and pictures of cats? This ignores the beloved blogger stereotype so I must go blog about it.

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96075 Terry Heaton Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:13:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96075 Great post, Jeff. I think you also need to consider the term itself (journalism). There's so much baggage attached to it that I'm surprised any research group would assume a broad understanding of the term while asking such a question. Personally, I think bloggers are journalists, every one of them. It's just that I have a different definition of the term. So if it's "professional" journalism of which Pew speaks, then I can easily understand bloggers' rejection of it as an identifier. Great post, Jeff. I think you also need to consider the term itself (journalism). There’s so much baggage attached to it that I’m surprised any research group would assume a broad understanding of the term while asking such a question. Personally, I think bloggers are journalists, every one of them. It’s just that I have a different definition of the term.

So if it’s “professional” journalism of which Pew speaks, then I can easily understand bloggers’ rejection of it as an identifier.

]]> By: Just Passin' By http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/23/who-the-hell-are-we-anyway/#comment-96072 Just Passin' By Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:01:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1801#comment-96072 You forgot: "Bloggers love to endlessly talk about themselves" You forgot: “Bloggers love to endlessly talk about themselves”

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