Comments on: Coming to J-school: Humor 101 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jammu http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-102114 Jammu Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:28:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-102114 I'm a court jester and I take offense to the first comment. I’m a court jester and I take offense to the first comment.

]]> By: Jana Lane http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-100690 Jana Lane Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:56:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-100690 I don't watch either "Good Morning America" or the "Today" show but I was amazed by the trivial nature of their "NEWS". Stephen Colbert gives the news as a jester, but his show is about matters that are of serious concern to all of us. That doesn't appear to be true of the other 2 shows. I don’t watch either “Good Morning America” or the “Today” show but I was amazed by the trivial nature of their “NEWS”. Stephen Colbert gives the news as a jester, but his show is about matters that are of serious concern to all of us. That doesn’t appear to be true of the other 2 shows.

]]> By: Hammer of Truth » “Fake” News is More Relevant than Real News http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-99907 Hammer of Truth » “Fake” News is More Relevant than Real News Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:09:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-99907 [...] Stephen Colbert kicks the morning news shows squarely in the nuts over the flurry of coverage that spawned from his interview with incumbent without a challenger Robert “I enjoy cocaine” Wexler: [...] [...] Stephen Colbert kicks the morning news shows squarely in the nuts over the flurry of coverage that spawned from his interview with incumbent without a challenger Robert “I enjoy cocaine” Wexler: [...]

]]> By: jowfair http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-99336 jowfair Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-99336 Peter, like the comments on YouTube point out, that "edit" was not only perfectly normal and straightforward - it was the entire point of Colbert's coaching to get Rep. Wexler to give a statement that could be clipped and soundbitten in just that manner. Jeff and Colbert are both right to take the morning shows to task for being so obnoxiously and two-facedly "high-minded" about the interview; Colbert especially had to do so since they took the tack of ridiculing the idea of appearing on his show at all. The "religious" rep. deserved just the smack-down he got and would be that it had came from establishment media. There's neither anything conspiratorial or unexpected that Fox News would run with the clip in just the manner that it did. Peter, like the comments on YouTube point out, that “edit” was not only perfectly normal and straightforward – it was the entire point of Colbert’s coaching to get Rep. Wexler to give a statement that could be clipped and soundbitten in just that manner.

Jeff and Colbert are both right to take the morning shows to task for being so obnoxiously and two-facedly “high-minded” about the interview; Colbert especially had to do so since they took the tack of ridiculing the idea of appearing on his show at all. The “religious” rep. deserved just the smack-down he got and would be that it had came from establishment media.

There’s neither anything conspiratorial or unexpected that Fox News would run with the clip in just the manner that it did.

]]> By: steven http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97625 steven Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:39:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97625 Robert, Court jesters have always been the ones who had the freedom to speak the "truth." This tradition is rooted in a variety of cultures dating back hundreds of years, including the commedia dell'arte, pantomime, vaudeville, etc. etc.--which is not even to speak of the Native American's view of the coyote as the "trickster" or the Egyptians (you get my point). From the Wikipedia entry for "clown": "being perceived 'idiots' they were often the only people in court who enjoyed free speech, and during the 16th century, especially in France, actors began to train as fools often in order to have the ability to make satirical comment. This is mainly where we get the contemporary idea of the court jester..." So, what does that say about 16th Century France? Our society is no different. We are not living in a society that is vastly different or unique in this sense. Robert,
Court jesters have always been the ones who had the freedom to speak the “truth.” This tradition is rooted in a variety of cultures dating back hundreds of years, including the commedia dell’arte, pantomime, vaudeville, etc. etc.–which is not even to speak of the Native American’s view of the coyote as the “trickster” or the Egyptians (you get my point).

From the Wikipedia entry for “clown”:

“being perceived ‘idiots’ they were often the only people in court who enjoyed free speech, and during the 16th century, especially in France, actors began to train as fools often in order to have the ability to make satirical comment. This is mainly where we get the contemporary idea of the court jester…”

So, what does that say about 16th Century France? Our society is no different. We are not living in a society that is vastly different or unique in this sense.

]]> By: peter http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97569 peter Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:53:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97569 Another take is this "expose" of FOX New's approach to the coke comment (not that Fair and Balanced) needs to exposed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqPxn7njqM&mode=related&search= Another take is this “expose” of FOX New’s approach to the coke comment (not that Fair and Balanced) needs to exposed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqPxn7njqM&mode=related&search=

]]> By: kingdom2000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97568 kingdom2000 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:33:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97568 You have to give Colbert credit for watching his guest's back. Wexler stuck his neck out for the joke (fell flat, but at least he tried), the media tries to make hay out of it (this they choose to get uppity about rather then EVERYTHING else that is available?) and Colbert smacks them for it. Bravo. You have to give Colbert credit for watching his guest’s back. Wexler stuck his neck out for the joke (fell flat, but at least he tried), the media tries to make hay out of it (this they choose to get uppity about rather then EVERYTHING else that is available?) and Colbert smacks them for it. Bravo.

]]> By: Brian Clark http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97567 Brian Clark Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:28:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97567 Good Morning America is journalism? Maybe that's the *real* problem. :) Good Morning America is journalism?

Maybe that’s the *real* problem. :)

]]> By: adslfan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97562 adslfan Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:53:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97562 colbert is my hero. hes funny and i understand him more than the buzzmachine guy. also colbert is on the cover of wired and the buzzmachine guy is not. colbert is my hero. hes funny and i understand him more than the buzzmachine guy. also colbert is on the cover of wired and the buzzmachine guy is not.

]]> By: Robert Feinman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97553 Robert Feinman Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:24:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/27/coming-to-j-school-humor-101/#comment-97553 What does it say about a society that the ony place truth speaks to power is from court jesters? What does it say about a society that the ony place truth speaks to power is from court jesters?

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