Comments on: News is a constant http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/ by Jeff Jarvis Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:42:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Online Media Beat » Is the fate of the newspaper sealed? Will online win the day? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-244000 Online Media Beat » Is the fate of the newspaper sealed? Will online win the day? Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:08:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-244000 [...] Now Jeff Jarvis (at loggerheads with Nick on this of course) takes a more pragmatic tack: [...] [...] Now Jeff Jarvis (at loggerheads with Nick on this of course) takes a more pragmatic tack: [...]

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100465 Jeff Jarvis Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:18:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100465 Well, Nick, that's illuminating. But I'd say that endless snarking is the enemy of discourse and discourse if the friend of learning. And this is a blogger saying that. Well, Nick, that’s illuminating.
But I’d say that endless snarking is the enemy of discourse and discourse if the friend of learning. And this is a blogger saying that.

]]> By: New Lesson in Breaking a Story at David Newberger Blogs http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100253 New Lesson in Breaking a Story at David Newberger Blogs Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:07:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100253 [...] It’s about 11 PM here and I was just reading TechMeme like I do in the evening. As I scroll down the page my eye catches a story “Online Papers Modestly Boost Newspaper Readership“. So I get a little excited because I was thinking I might of made it on to TechMeme. I looked at the posts and I see there are a total of 5 sites mentioned. People and Press, Buzz Machine, Teaching Online Journalism, Screenwerk, and Mathew Ingrams site. My hopes are now dashed and I wonder what give. [...] [...] It’s about 11 PM here and I was just reading TechMeme like I do in the evening. As I scroll down the page my eye catches a story “Online Papers Modestly Boost Newspaper Readership“. So I get a little excited because I was thinking I might of made it on to TechMeme. I looked at the posts and I see there are a total of 5 sites mentioned. People and Press, Buzz Machine, Teaching Online Journalism, Screenwerk, and Mathew Ingrams site. My hopes are now dashed and I wonder what give. [...]

]]> By: Online doesn’t compete with newspapers » Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com/work http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100218 Online doesn’t compete with newspapers » Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com/work Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:15:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100218 [...] It’s true that this might weaken the “Internet will kill newspapers” argument, but then I’m not sure anyone actually believes that, even Jeff Jarvis. The fact is that the two serve very different purposes — and those different purposes are likely to continue to widen, as news moves online and newspapers focus on analysis and local coverage (if they’re smart, that is). [...] [...] It’s true that this might weaken the “Internet will kill newspapers” argument, but then I’m not sure anyone actually believes that, even Jeff Jarvis. The fact is that the two serve very different purposes — and those different purposes are likely to continue to widen, as news moves online and newspapers focus on analysis and local coverage (if they’re smart, that is). [...]

]]> By: Nick Carr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100201 Nick Carr Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:38:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100201 <i>Let’s at least get more personal after meeting.</i> Chumminess is the enemy of honesty. Let’s at least get more personal after meeting.

Chumminess is the enemy of honesty.

]]> By: Dan Greenfield http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100186 Dan Greenfield Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:19:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-100186 The Pew study was enlightening – particularly the finding that the online news market is dominated by a few players including – MSNBC, Yahoo, CNN and Google. All of which makes today’s announcement that several online newspaper sites will start serving up content from other newspapers – including competitors – very apropos. Bob Tedeschi in The NY Times calls it a “counterattack by publishers against Google and Yahoo who have stolen readers and advertisers in recent years.” So the thinking appears to be -- two can play at that game. Newspapers are going to try to replicate the success of search engines and aggregators and attempt to compete head on. Not sure if a news aggregation strategy is the answer to what ails the newspaper industry. The Pew study was enlightening – particularly the finding that the online news market is dominated by a few players including – MSNBC, Yahoo, CNN and Google.

All of which makes today’s announcement that several online newspaper sites will start serving up content from other newspapers – including competitors – very apropos. Bob Tedeschi in The NY Times calls it a “counterattack by publishers against Google and Yahoo who have stolen readers and advertisers in recent years.”

So the thinking appears to be — two can play at that game. Newspapers are going to try to replicate the success of search engines and aggregators and attempt to compete head on.

Not sure if a news aggregation strategy is the answer to what ails the newspaper industry.

]]> By: sonitus.org » Blog Archive » News is a constant http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99861 sonitus.org » Blog Archive » News is a constant Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:07:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99861 [...] BuzzMachine [...] [...] BuzzMachine [...]

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99850 Jeff Jarvis Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:34:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99850 Nick, Let's at least get more personal after meeting. Rather than Philistine and Curmudeon let's try something a tad friendlier. Mudgey, perhaps? ;-) Philly. Nick,
Let’s at least get more personal after meeting. Rather than Philistine and Curmudeon let’s try something a tad friendlier. Mudgey, perhaps? ;-)
Philly.

]]> By: Nick Carr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99736 Nick Carr Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:13:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99736 I must have screwed up that link. Here it is again: <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/05/22/resident-philistine-to-resident-curmudgeon/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/05/22/resident-philistine-to-resident-curmudgeon/</a> I must have screwed up that link. Here it is again:

http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/05/22/resident-philistine-to-resident-curmudgeon/

]]> By: Nick Carr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99735 Nick Carr Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:09:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99735 Oh, come on, Jeff, when I pulled back from referring to you as our resident philistine, you specifically <a>expressed your disappointment</a>, writing: "Drat, I was rather enjoying the title. I would be willing to call Carr the blogosphere’s would-be resident curmudgeon if he’d call me its resident philistine." I'm just holding up my end of the deal! Nick Oh, come on, Jeff, when I pulled back from referring to you as our resident philistine, you specifically expressed your disappointment, writing:

“Drat, I was rather enjoying the title. I would be willing to call Carr the blogosphere’s would-be resident curmudgeon if he’d call me its resident philistine.”

I’m just holding up my end of the deal!

Nick

]]> By: JeffJarvistheZionist http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99734 JeffJarvistheZionist Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:09:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/07/31/news-is-a-constant/#comment-99734 Jeff - still worried about Israel? Who are the murderers now? http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N30200107.htm Jeff - still worried about Israel? Who are the murderers now?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N30200107.htm

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