Comments on: Talk of the town http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:12:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: kiz giydirme http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-378614 kiz giydirme Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:56:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-378614 "His next strawman is that some blogging is not journalism or is bad journalism and thus all blogging is not journalism because it is not performed by journalists." he point out an important issue but I believe that this is wrong. Most important think is to think like a journalist “His next strawman is that some blogging is not journalism or is bad journalism and thus all blogging is not journalism because it is not performed by journalists.” he point out an important issue but I believe that this is wrong. Most important think is to think like a journalist

]]> By: osman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-375628 osman Sat, 24 May 2008 13:40:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-375628 Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that. wtf Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that. wtf

]]> By: game http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-371370 game Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:53:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-371370 Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”.. Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”..

]]> By: sıcak pornolar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-369315 sıcak pornolar Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:36:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-369315 Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that. wtf Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that. wtf

]]> By: müzik dinle http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-369314 müzik dinle Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:36:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-369314 editor and CUNY Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the […]this is good idea ... editor and CUNY Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the […]this is good idea …

]]> By: bedava oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-369313 bedava oyunlar Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:35:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-369313 Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”.. Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”..

]]> By: mini juegos http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-366824 mini juegos Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:08:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-366824 Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight. Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight.

]]> By: oyun http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-366823 oyun Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:07:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-366823 Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that

]]> By: kral oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-366822 kral oyunlar Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:07:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-366822 You can get the details by going to this link for the New Yorker and this one for a blogger, Jeff Jarvis, who is known for defending citizen journalists. You can get the details by going to this link for the New Yorker and this one for a blogger, Jeff Jarvis, who is known for defending citizen journalists.

]]> By: oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-365750 oyunlar Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:45:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-365750 Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that. Apologies for misspelling Mr. Lemann’s name. A copy editor would have caught that.

]]> By: OYUNLAR http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-363860 OYUNLAR Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:24:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-363860 Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”.. Esteban.. I couldn’t agree more, the diamonds are out out there even if noise to signal ratio can be somewhat deafening. I just wanted to pass along a line from (imho a great book) Communities Dominate Brands by Alan Moore and Tomi Ahonen: “Nobody is as smart as everybody”..

]]> By: kral oyun http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-363859 kral oyun Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:24:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-363859 You can get the details by going to this link for the New Yorker and this one for a blogger, Jeff Jarvis, who is known for defending citizen journalists. You can get the details by going to this link for the New Yorker and this one for a blogger, Jeff Jarvis, who is known for defending citizen journalists.

]]> By: oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-363091 oyunlar Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:34:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-363091 Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight

]]> By: oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-363090 oyunlar Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:33:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-363090 editor and CUNY Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the […]this is good idea editor and CUNY Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the […]this is good idea

]]> By: oyun siteleri http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-363026 oyun siteleri Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:28:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-363026 Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s strawmen in stories about blogging). this is very intelligent think Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s strawmen in stories about blogging).

this is very intelligent think

]]> By: oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-362717 oyunlar Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:04:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-362717 Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight. Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight.

]]> By: Newspapers: The BETA of the 21st Century? « The Shuka Report http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-359706 Newspapers: The BETA of the 21st Century? « The Shuka Report Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:37:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-359706 [...] editor and CUNY  Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the [...] [...] editor and CUNY  Journalism School professor Jeff Jarvis began a bloggosphere exchange with Columbia School of Journalism Dean Nicholas Lemann. The exchanges were sparked with the [...]

]]> By: Even Better Than The Real Thing « MSeech’s Weblog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-359363 Even Better Than The Real Thing « MSeech’s Weblog Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:00:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-359363 [...] Lemann’s response to Jeff Jarvis’  challenge (see the very end) shows a disconnect between what is and what should be in regards to the [...] [...] Lemann’s response to Jeff Jarvis’  challenge (see the very end) shows a disconnect between what is and what should be in regards to the [...]

]]> By: First Week’s Interactive Readings . . . « News From J-School http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-359354 First Week’s Interactive Readings . . . « News From J-School Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:59:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-359354 [...] don’t need professional licensing to be in the field, as Lemann points out in his response to Jarvis’ response to Lemann’s New Yorker article, but that doesn’t give everyone the right to consider [...] [...] don’t need professional licensing to be in the field, as Lemann points out in his response to Jarvis’ response to Lemann’s New Yorker article, but that doesn’t give everyone the right to consider [...]

]]> By: Oyun http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-355305 Oyun Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:04:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-355305 Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s strawmen in stories about blogging). Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s strawmen in stories about blogging).

]]> By: oyunlar http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-264706 oyunlar Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:16:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-264706 Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight. Join the fight. Bloggers vs. Journalists? Sure, whatever…what’s needed is an arena where all people who care about a free press can come and fight for a new one. You can listen to a lot of “ivory tower” navel gazing about what’s wrong with the media, or you can do something about it. It’s time to fight for a new free press, it’s time for NewsFight.

Join the fight.

]]> By: PR, WOMMA, and scarecrows » http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-199409 PR, WOMMA, and scarecrows » Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:21:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-199409 [...] Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s  strawmen in stories about blogging). [...] [...] Anyway, the publics are certainly entitled to their opinions, and it concerns me not if individual citizens have a negative opinion about WOMMA. But it is annoying to have “experts” rail so foolishly against WOMMA and PR, building up PR strawman monopoly (ironic, considering his campaign against journalist’s  strawmen in stories about blogging). [...]

]]> By: Abraham Fuchs http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-170950 Abraham Fuchs Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:21:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-170950 President George W. Bush: Please stop the sissy war you are waging! Cordon off the suspected areas of insurgency and QUARANTINE that population! Keep them under quarantine until you have vetted who is not the enemy! There are good citizens there and bad guys. Why can't you separate them??? If Franklin Roosevelt could do it with Japanese Americans you can do it with the Iraqis! Stop sending our boys out there to be cannon fodder! Would General Patton be as impotent as your military under your leadership, seems to be? President Bush fight a real war in Iraq or get out and let them fight it out the way we did in our Civil War! If the bad guys win the civil war then we can come in THEN and bomb the hell out of them! The bad guys are winning now as it is! Don't you see that??? You're presiding over a DUCK SHOOT! Last but not least. Get rid of that arrogant fool - Rumsfeld! Concerned citizen, Abraham Fuchs President George W. Bush:

Please stop the sissy war you are waging!

Cordon off the suspected areas of insurgency and QUARANTINE that population!

Keep them under quarantine until you have vetted who is not the enemy!

There are good citizens there and bad guys. Why can’t you separate them???

If Franklin Roosevelt could do it with Japanese Americans you can do it with the Iraqis!

Stop sending our boys out there to be cannon fodder!

Would General Patton be as impotent as your military under your leadership, seems to be?

President Bush fight a real war in Iraq or get out and let them fight it out the way we did in our Civil War!

If the bad guys win the civil war then we can come in THEN and bomb the hell out of them!

The bad guys are winning now as it is! Don’t you see that??? You’re presiding over a DUCK SHOOT!

Last but not least. Get rid of that arrogant fool - Rumsfeld!

Concerned citizen,

Abraham Fuchs

]]> By: NewsOverCoffee http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-126166 NewsOverCoffee Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:27:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-126166 Thanks for allowing comments since the New Yorker article did not. At the end of the day the economics of the "professional" media will not allow publications to provide coverage on the most local of levels, particularly in non-metropolitan areas. Where the business of the professional media results in gaps in coverage it seems to me that the simple sharing of information from one community member to another via the internet, be it a publishing mechanism such as a blog, wiki or otherwise, is preferable to nothing. As media organizations attempt to appeal to a larger and larger audience to boost declining revenue, they will open the door further for small, independent organizations, not to mention individuals, who will serve all the noble purposes Lemann holds dear, with or without, the $100,000 or so education he can provide. It is not about competition. It is about sharing information. Thanks for allowing comments since the New Yorker article did not.

At the end of the day the economics of the “professional” media will not allow publications to provide coverage on the most local of levels, particularly in non-metropolitan areas.

Where the business of the professional media results in gaps in coverage it seems to me that the simple sharing of information from one community member to another via the internet, be it a publishing mechanism such as a blog, wiki or otherwise, is preferable to nothing.

As media organizations attempt to appeal to a larger and larger audience to boost declining revenue, they will open the door further for small, independent organizations, not to mention individuals, who will serve all the noble purposes Lemann holds dear, with or without, the $100,000 or so education he can provide.

It is not about competition. It is about sharing information.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Is writing the highest form of speech? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/07/31/talk-of-the-town/#comment-114398 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Is writing the highest form of speech? Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:37:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=1835#comment-114398 [...] In the first, blogger Tom Matrullo quotes Socrates. His context, coincidentally, is the silence of Columbia J-school’s Nick Lemann in the conversation he caused. Matrullo blogged: As the flood of responses and comments to Nicholas Lemann’s “On the Internet, everybody is a millenarian” article in the New Yorker continues to flow, bend, ripple and eddy, one can’t help but notice how Lemann’s piece simply stands there, mute, defunct. Sans capacity to comment, respond, defend, link. It’s Plato’s old distinction in the Phaedrus: blogs are the speaking voice, alive and self-present. Lemann’s article belongs to the world of print, of writing. [...] [...] In the first, blogger Tom Matrullo quotes Socrates. His context, coincidentally, is the silence of Columbia J-school’s Nick Lemann in the conversation he caused. Matrullo blogged: As the flood of responses and comments to Nicholas Lemann’s “On the Internet, everybody is a millenarian” article in the New Yorker continues to flow, bend, ripple and eddy, one can’t help but notice how Lemann’s piece simply stands there, mute, defunct. Sans capacity to comment, respond, defend, link. It’s Plato’s old distinction in the Phaedrus: blogs are the speaking voice, alive and self-present. Lemann’s article belongs to the world of print, of writing. [...]

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