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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Tomorrow&#8217;s News, Tomorrow&#8217;s Journalists &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The challenges? Feel blessed, integrate, innovate</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-381871</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomorrow&#8217;s News, Tomorrow&#8217;s Journalists &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The challenges? Feel blessed, integrate, innovate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] define roles than to re-define them after you have been doing something for years and decades. To quote Jeff Jarvis:   “Journalists have to be entrepreneurs [blogger's note: !!!!!]. Teachers. Students. Helpers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] define roles than to re-define them after you have been doing something for years and decades. To quote Jeff Jarvis:   “Journalists have to be entrepreneurs [blogger's note: !!!!!]. Teachers. Students. Helpers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Young journos: feel blessed, integrate, innovate &#124; kopfzeiler.org</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-381522</link>
		<dc:creator>Young journos: feel blessed, integrate, innovate &#124; kopfzeiler.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This brings us back to the first paragraph: It is easier to define roles than to re-define them after you have been doing something for years and decades. To quote Jeff Jarvis: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ZurÃ¼ck im Jahr 2005 &#124; kopfzeiler.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZurÃ¼ck im Jahr 2005 &#124; kopfzeiler.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Schluss mÃ¶chte ich nochmal auf den kurzen Jeff-Jarvis-Artikel zur Evolution des Journalismus hinweisen, dem ich absolut zustimme. Journalisten mÃ¼ssen nicht nur Reporter, sondern auch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Schluss mÃ¶chte ich nochmal auf den kurzen Jeff-Jarvis-Artikel zur Evolution des Journalismus hinweisen, dem ich absolut zustimme. Journalisten mÃ¼ssen nicht nur Reporter, sondern auch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dailywireless.org &#187; Midnight in the Garden</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-183051</link>
		<dc:creator>dailywireless.org &#187; Midnight in the Garden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis says, &#8220;Journalism will become more collaborative â€” because it can, thanks to new tools; because it must, thanks to new business realities; and because it should, to build a new and respectful relationship with the public. So our challenge is to find the ways to help this happen. Jarvis says Saving journalism (and killing the press) is manditory in the age of Craig Newmark. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis says, &#8220;Journalism will become more collaborative â€” because it can, thanks to new tools; because it must, thanks to new business realities; and because it should, to build a new and respectful relationship with the public. So our challenge is to find the ways to help this happen. Jarvis says Saving journalism (and killing the press) is manditory in the age of Craig Newmark. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dailywireless.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newspaper Manifesto</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-179893</link>
		<dc:creator>dailywireless.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Newspaper Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis says, &#8220;Journalism will become more collaborative â€” because it can, thanks to new tools; because it must, thanks to new business realities; and because it should, to build a new and respectful relationship with the public. So our challenge is to find the ways to help this happen. Jarvis says Saving journalism (and killing the press) is manditory in the age of Craig Newmark. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: little bridge &#187; &#8220;å¯è¯»å†™&#8221;ç½‘ç»œä¸Šçš„&#8220;çœŸ&#8221;æ–°é—»</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-145591</link>
		<dc:creator>little bridge &#187; &#8220;å¯è¯»å†™&#8221;ç½‘ç»œä¸Šçš„&#8220;çœŸ&#8221;æ–°é—»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He speaks: Lemann responds</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He speaks: Lemann responds</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] No, I do believe that more education in the subjects reporters are likely to cover is important (and CUNY is offering such concentrations to our students, I should add). One cannot possibly argue that more education and knowledge is a bad thing. But no matter how hard and how much a journalism student studies, there will always be someone out there who knows much more. Journalists have fancied themselves experts â€” they often use the word now â€” and thatâ€™s just not the case, not usually. Reporters are facile at picking up subjects. Reporters should strive to be come more expert in the beats they cover. But, as Iâ€™m sure Lemann and I would agree, they do their best work when they go out and report, finding the knowledge of experts â€” who, thanks to the internet, can now share their knowledge on their own, albeit as amateur journalists. I do think is our job to narrow the gap between pro and am, between journalist and public, to do more together. But less education is not the path to do that. In fact, educating more people is the way to do it, I think. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No, I do believe that more education in the subjects reporters are likely to cover is important (and CUNY is offering such concentrations to our students, I should add). One cannot possibly argue that more education and knowledge is a bad thing. But no matter how hard and how much a journalism student studies, there will always be someone out there who knows much more. Journalists have fancied themselves experts â€” they often use the word now â€” and thatâ€™s just not the case, not usually. Reporters are facile at picking up subjects. Reporters should strive to be come more expert in the beats they cover. But, as Iâ€™m sure Lemann and I would agree, they do their best work when they go out and report, finding the knowledge of experts â€” who, thanks to the internet, can now share their knowledge on their own, albeit as amateur journalists. I do think is our job to narrow the gap between pro and am, between journalist and public, to do more together. But less education is not the path to do that. In fact, educating more people is the way to do it, I think. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; As J-schools go&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; As J-schools go&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I will hasten to add that I don&#8217;t know a thing about the rest of the landscape of J-schools. I don&#8217;t even start working at one &#8212; at CUNY&#8217;s new Graduate School of Journalism &#8212; until later this month. But I see examples of different views here and there, some representing just individuals. Berkeley&#8217;s J-school has been web-wise for sometime and has also produced good journalism and a new forum for it with PBS&#8217; Frontline. The aforementioned Leonard Witt has been a leader in public journalism for years. The University of Maryland&#8217;s J-school provided a home for Jan Schafer and J-lab, which tries to support and award innovative news projects. Then, of course, there&#8217;s my goomba Jay Rosen&#8217;s NewAssignment.net, which tries to find new ways to support journalism. And I put my personal stake in the ground here, arguing that we need to find the ways to make journalism more collaborative and less dependent upon media and that we must redefine the roles of journalists. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I will hasten to add that I don&#8217;t know a thing about the rest of the landscape of J-schools. I don&#8217;t even start working at one &#8212; at CUNY&#8217;s new Graduate School of Journalism &#8212; until later this month. But I see examples of different views here and there, some representing just individuals. Berkeley&#8217;s J-school has been web-wise for sometime and has also produced good journalism and a new forum for it with PBS&#8217; Frontline. The aforementioned Leonard Witt has been a leader in public journalism for years. The University of Maryland&#8217;s J-school provided a home for Jan Schafer and J-lab, which tries to support and award innovative news projects. Then, of course, there&#8217;s my goomba Jay Rosen&#8217;s NewAssignment.net, which tries to find new ways to support journalism. And I put my personal stake in the ground here, arguing that we need to find the ways to make journalism more collaborative and less dependent upon media and that we must redefine the roles of journalists. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Networked journalism: Feeding the Times</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-106902</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Networked journalism: Feeding the Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s not about them v. us, as Nick Lemann would have it. It&#8217;s about them and us. The more we work together, the more informed society will be. It is a good thing for journalism that there are now more people than ever doing journalism and these are just two small illustrations of that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s not about them v. us, as Nick Lemann would have it. It&#8217;s about them and us. The more we work together, the more informed society will be. It is a good thing for journalism that there are now more people than ever doing journalism and these are just two small illustrations of that. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-102467</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interested that you say that one of the many things an individual  journalist has to become is an entrepreneur and would like to know more about your views on this. As a journalist now running a business, there are all sorts of challenges that this throws up as you will know - not least ethically - how does making money always sit with reporting objectively? Apologies if I am stating the obvious. Also as someone who imposed a self exile into PR work when her children were small, can I ask if you think those 'journalist entrepreneurs' can ever make as  much money as the hack who 'sells out' to PR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested that you say that one of the many things an individual  journalist has to become is an entrepreneur and would like to know more about your views on this. As a journalist now running a business, there are all sorts of challenges that this throws up as you will know - not least ethically - how does making money always sit with reporting objectively? Apologies if I am stating the obvious. Also as someone who imposed a self exile into PR work when her children were small, can I ask if you think those &#8216;journalist entrepreneurs&#8217; can ever make as  much money as the hack who &#8217;sells out&#8217; to PR?</p>
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		<title>By: alan macleese</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-102330</link>
		<dc:creator>alan macleese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a quest we are on, I think, and we have been gifted with the tools to be good and true scribes for the tribe.  Tools that are awesome yet available to anyone with the wit to find his way on to the web. Google my name and you will see what I mean.
      We can skip around the sidelines to help make more sense of what is happening, we can work in squads, even platoons or as single sentinels, and we can and will swear to be honest and do right things.
       Once all the strawmen and strawwomen are batted aside, and the difficulties hurdled,  and the practicalities attended to, we should be able to do a lot of good, and if we volunteered that would be a nice thing, too.
     And , it will be seen, I bet, that  the "ease of creation " does indeed pay huge dividends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a quest we are on, I think, and we have been gifted with the tools to be good and true scribes for the tribe.  Tools that are awesome yet available to anyone with the wit to find his way on to the web. Google my name and you will see what I mean.<br />
      We can skip around the sidelines to help make more sense of what is happening, we can work in squads, even platoons or as single sentinels, and we can and will swear to be honest and do right things.<br />
       Once all the strawmen and strawwomen are batted aside, and the difficulties hurdled,  and the practicalities attended to, we should be able to do a lot of good, and if we volunteered that would be a nice thing, too.<br />
     And , it will be seen, I bet, that  the &#8220;ease of creation &#8221; does indeed pay huge dividends.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-101469</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If trends continue we won't have any reporters, they will all be in jail.

Today two NY Times reporters lost an appeal about having their phone records turned over to a grand jury.

A blogger/free-lancer was imprisoned for refusing to turn over his raw tapes of a protest rally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If trends continue we won&#8217;t have any reporters, they will all be in jail.</p>
<p>Today two NY Times reporters lost an appeal about having their phone records turned over to a grand jury.</p>
<p>A blogger/free-lancer was imprisoned for refusing to turn over his raw tapes of a protest rally.</p>
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		<title>By: steve baker</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-101441</link>
		<dc:creator>steve baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, what if the reporters are terrible headline writers? Some people are skilled at writing headlines that express the gist of a story, sometimes with humor or irony. Why not use them? What's more, some stories need to be rewritten by editors, with new lead, new nut graph, etc. Should the authors of those stories still write the headlines? If journalism is a team game, as Jeff says, why not work as a team?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, what if the reporters are terrible headline writers? Some people are skilled at writing headlines that express the gist of a story, sometimes with humor or irony. Why not use them? What&#8217;s more, some stories need to be rewritten by editors, with new lead, new nut graph, etc. Should the authors of those stories still write the headlines? If journalism is a team game, as Jeff says, why not work as a team?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-101403</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more element to add to the mix, get it right. Pay attention to the details, pay attention to the facts. Be on the lookout for errors and be ready to correct them when they come to your attention. Correct errors when you spot them and do not wait until readers bring them to your attention. Have the courage to admit to being wrong.

Finally, the story's author writes the headline. No exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more element to add to the mix, get it right. Pay attention to the details, pay attention to the facts. Be on the lookout for errors and be ready to correct them when they come to your attention. Correct errors when you spot them and do not wait until readers bring them to your attention. Have the courage to admit to being wrong.</p>
<p>Finally, the story&#8217;s author writes the headline. No exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-101341</link>
		<dc:creator>ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked everything said in the post. It's always a useful exercise to say what you believe in.

I know nothing about journalism. Looking forward to hearing about and reading about and maybe even watching these classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked everything said in the post. It&#8217;s always a useful exercise to say what you believe in.</p>
<p>I know nothing about journalism. Looking forward to hearing about and reading about and maybe even watching these classes.</p>
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		<title>By: JennyD</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100981</link>
		<dc:creator>JennyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I'll bite. What exactly are YOU going to teach? Is it that you can learn things from everyone--even people who know nothing about journalism? Is it that students can learn more from each other than you?

If I were a student in your class, what materials what I encounter on the first day of class? What would be your objectives for me and other students with regard to the materials, and your enactment of them as a teacher?

As a student, I will spend at least 90 minutes with you and other students on Day One. How will that time be spent? And how will you as an instructor know that they time has been well spent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll bite. What exactly are YOU going to teach? Is it that you can learn things from everyone&#8211;even people who know nothing about journalism? Is it that students can learn more from each other than you?</p>
<p>If I were a student in your class, what materials what I encounter on the first day of class? What would be your objectives for me and other students with regard to the materials, and your enactment of them as a teacher?</p>
<p>As a student, I will spend at least 90 minutes with you and other students on Day One. How will that time be spent? And how will you as an instructor know that they time has been well spent?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100969</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leolabeth,
Thanks.

Jenny,
You keep projecting that I"m going to go into class and say I don't know anything. Of course, I better be prepared to teach. But I am saying that no one -- teacher, student, journalist -- knows exactly where journalism is headed and we need to explore that together. 

A.J.,
Fair question. The difference I didn't express well is that I'm not suggesting that we create some professional or amateur code to sign onto, only that we have standards upon which to JUDGE the journalism that is done by anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leolabeth,<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p>Jenny,<br />
You keep projecting that I&#8221;m going to go into class and say I don&#8217;t know anything. Of course, I better be prepared to teach. But I am saying that no one &#8212; teacher, student, journalist &#8212; knows exactly where journalism is headed and we need to explore that together. </p>
<p>A.J.,<br />
Fair question. The difference I didn&#8217;t express well is that I&#8217;m not suggesting that we create some professional or amateur code to sign onto, only that we have standards upon which to JUDGE the journalism that is done by anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J. Liebling</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100934</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J. Liebling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You now express an interest in helping mold standards for journalism. A year ago, though, you &lt;a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_06_30.html#009968" rel="nofollow"&gt;soured on standards for bloggers&lt;/a&gt;: "It may be contrarian of me, but I will argue that we should not adopt a code of ethics and standards. That is for institutions to declare because they lose touch with their publics."

Now, you could be for the notion of re-examining standards without adopting them. Or it may be the case that, to your logic, blogging is not a subset of journalism. But, of course, &lt;i&gt;certain&lt;/i&gt; bloggers feel they are doing journalism, that is uncontestable, and many are represented by the Media Bloggers Association, from where your post above came from. The MBA eventually &lt;a href="http://www.mediabloggers.org/archives/2006/04/mba_ratifies_ne.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;adopted standards&lt;/a&gt;, but refrained from playing the role of arbiter or judge.

Something to consider before the bell rings in a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You now express an interest in helping mold standards for journalism. A year ago, though, you <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_06_30.html#009968" rel="nofollow">soured on standards for bloggers</a>: &#8220;It may be contrarian of me, but I will argue that we should not adopt a code of ethics and standards. That is for institutions to declare because they lose touch with their publics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, you could be for the notion of re-examining standards without adopting them. Or it may be the case that, to your logic, blogging is not a subset of journalism. But, of course, <i>certain</i> bloggers feel they are doing journalism, that is uncontestable, and many are represented by the Media Bloggers Association, from where your post above came from. The MBA eventually <a href="http://www.mediabloggers.org/archives/2006/04/mba_ratifies_ne.php" rel="nofollow">adopted standards</a>, but refrained from playing the role of arbiter or judge.</p>
<p>Something to consider before the bell rings in a month.</p>
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		<title>By: JennyD</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100900</link>
		<dc:creator>JennyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, why would someone pay to go to school where the teacher/instructor/professor says upfront that he/she does not know enough to teach? You suggest that the best way for a group of novices to become expert at a profession is...for them to teach each other? What would they teach other? 

I mean, I get the idea that there's lots to learn, but I think your role as an instructor is much more difficult than you think it is.

Meanwhile, your description of journalism makes it sound a little bit like group therapy or marriage counseling. I wonder if it doesn't need a few more hard and fast skills and strategies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, why would someone pay to go to school where the teacher/instructor/professor says upfront that he/she does not know enough to teach? You suggest that the best way for a group of novices to become expert at a profession is&#8230;for them to teach each other? What would they teach other? </p>
<p>I mean, I get the idea that there&#8217;s lots to learn, but I think your role as an instructor is much more difficult than you think it is.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, your description of journalism makes it sound a little bit like group therapy or marriage counseling. I wonder if it doesn&#8217;t need a few more hard and fast skills and strategies?</p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100873</link>
		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your views on the future of journalism. I myself hope to major in journalism as it broadens its horizons to encompass all forms of communication. People often tell me that writing for magazines and newspapers are a dying profession but I believe that the internet is not looking to replace the printed word. It is basically another form of journalism. Thanks for your insights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your views on the future of journalism. I myself hope to major in journalism as it broadens its horizons to encompass all forms of communication. People often tell me that writing for magazines and newspapers are a dying profession but I believe that the internet is not looking to replace the printed word. It is basically another form of journalism. Thanks for your insights!</p>
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		<title>By: leolabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/01/bigger-better-journalism/#comment-100866</link>
		<dc:creator>leolabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made boatloads of sense on &lt;a href="http://www.whyy.org/91FM/radiotimes.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Radio Times&lt;/a&gt; today and I came straight home, well nearly, and Googled you. I agreed with the caller who said your show was one of her best.  (My link may not work correcly after today because I think it's the current show page. Look for the second hour of the 1.August.06 show afterwards.)

As a former print reporter who appreciates the interchange between the old and new media, I cherish your point of view. What was the great phrase you used, the honor of the link, or link honor? Damnation, I can't remember. Anyway, it's one of the things I think separates the blogosphere. It translates into instant accountability available nowhere else.

Thanks. And thank heaven for satellite radio or I'd never have heard this show.

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made boatloads of sense on <a href="http://www.whyy.org/91FM/radiotimes.html" rel="nofollow">Radio Times</a> today and I came straight home, well nearly, and Googled you. I agreed with the caller who said your show was one of her best.  (My link may not work correcly after today because I think it&#8217;s the current show page. Look for the second hour of the 1.August.06 show afterwards.)</p>
<p>As a former print reporter who appreciates the interchange between the old and new media, I cherish your point of view. What was the great phrase you used, the honor of the link, or link honor? Damnation, I can&#8217;t remember. Anyway, it&#8217;s one of the things I think separates the blogosphere. It translates into instant accountability available nowhere else.</p>
<p>Thanks. And thank heaven for satellite radio or I&#8217;d never have heard this show.</p>
<p>L</p>
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