If the liquid bomb plot was likely or even possible it wouldn’t be so bad but the whole scenario is rediculous and the fact we are still being affected by this is crackers.

Hopefully at some point someone will come forward with a real plan that will slow down terrorists without doing the one thing they want….

us to change our way of life (which has been done many times thanks to their “actions” and our gov’s reaction to them)

forgive them for gods sake… ho ho ho i’m killing me!!

You mean The “Cilvilans ” who are “dead”. I’ve heard some were “Children” who were “killed”. Maybe they had some of those deadly “magazines” and “books”!

Or a hollow out magazine, huh! You’re not a very intelligent person, are you? It’s called “Security theater” for a reason!

their figures are not far off from bbc, i guess it’s pretty obvious to the whole world that more civilians were killed by israel than by hizbollah.

scott, pls educate me in which war the country switzerland has engaged since it was founded in 1848?! and you better educate yourself a little better about the Swiss guard in the Vatican to understand what that is about…

there is no point really in continuing this discussion as you obviously are not at all interested in discussing the points i’ve raised. plus we’re off the original topic anyway. but who knows, maybe you can really educate me about swiss and european history – americans always know better, right?

this thread is a great example of american ignorance. and a great example of how blind people become when they’re full of hatred. no matter on which side. you people are by no means any better than the islamofascists you hate so much. go ahead, start more wars, warmongers. eradicate hizbollah, use your carpet bombs, destroy iran, get all the oil out of the middle east to fuel your fancy cars until there is no more, kill many more thousands of innocent civilians, elect another idiot for president, whatever – eventually you will get what you deserve!

ever asked yourself why such a huge chunk of the world’s population hates america? no, i’m not talking about muslims now! i don’t hate america at all but i have below zero respect for ignorant people, no matter where they come from.

Also, I’m not aware of any of the nuclear-armed nations you mention that Iran is “scared” of advocating wiping Iran off of the map. However, I am aware that the current Iranian government has publicly stated that they want Israel wiped off of the map.

In all of the discussion about electronics and carry-on luggage on planes, I’ve not really seen much discussion about the security of these items in checked luggage. Not having something to do on an 8-hour flight is one thing. Being told that you have to put your electronic items in your checked luggage is another. We’ve been conditioned for decades *not* to put such items in checked bags since there is a great possibility that the items will be stolen or damaged. I’m not aware that any airlines or airport security authorities have instituted any new guarantees against theft or damage, so asking me to put these expensive, “thief magnets” in my *unlocked* checked baggage is a non-starter, as far as I’m concerned.

As much as I would like to use my initiative to get from London to Boston, perhaps you are not aware that (a) there is a little body of water called the Atlantic Ocean which separates the United Kingdom and the United States by about 3,000 miles; and (b) that it is in fact an ocean, a geographical entity not traditionally known for a prevalence of either cycle-lanes, buses, car shares or footpaths.

Get a grip. You are neither virtuous, scholarly(your knowledge of European history seems zilch) nor honest. Invoking “jesus, gandhi, mandela and the dalai lama”….the most hackneyed Visualize World Peace bumpersticker meme…..please.

And, the BBC reports of anything, I think not. Perhaps you have been aware of the ridiculous bias and factual errors of all things ME reported by the MSM. You made statements with specific numbers, I’m still waiting for your verifiable sources on that.

Oh, and, it is about Switzerland and the kind of people that like yourself, admired and invoke Swiss neutrality during WWII. I hope your logic is muddled because you are young and searching. If not, it’s sad.

Put up a notice saying you need to get to Boston. Offer to help pay for petrol.

Get yourself a bicycle.

Go with a friend.

Walk.

Find out how close the bus gets to Boston.

Take the damn initiative you lazy bastich.

this is not about switzerland and by no means i try to justify what swiss banks have done in ww2. i don’t justify any terrorist acts either, i condemn them as much as you do. i am not neutral to evil, i am neutral to the conflict in the sense that i don’t take any party’s side. this is about evil and deadly aggression happening on BOTH sides instead of constructive discussion and solutions. it is about people like you all seeing only one angle, seeing only one evil and justifying the evils your governments are doing by it. why do you talk about swiss banks instead of finally trying to put yourself in the other’s shoes for a moment and stopping to ignore what i’m asking you folks?

let me give you an example of putting yourself in the other’s shoes. let’s say you’re an ordinary, non-criminal citizen of iran – yes, they do exist. your neighbouring country has been invaded recently by the usa. 20 years ago that same neighbour waged a terrible war on your country, financed by the same usa. your country is surrounded by nuclear powers, most of them hostile to you: russia, israel, pakistan, india, china plus the usa- and uk-forces in the region. most of them, lead by the usa, are threatening you with war if you develop nuclear power, be it peaceful or not. all of them have so many nuclear bombs they could blow up the planet many times – you are not allowed to have them, they are. would you be scared? what would you think of the world and the usa?

i’m glad i’m not that guy. i’m an eternal optimist and i believe the human race will raise from the ashes, evolve from this very stupid animalistic behaviour and follow the path that people like jesus, gandhi, mandela and the dalai lama have laid out…and that even people like ravo will eventually learn to recognize the whole picture. yeah right, we should all be so very thankful to israel that they are so considerate of dropping leaflets before devastating the area AND bombing the vehicles who flee as instructed! So thankful for that extremely high morale ground of Israel to murder innocent UN staff besides all the innocent babies and children. you better stick your carpet bombs up your …, dude!

It wasn’t Israel bombing the Gaza strip these past years and blowing up every Israeli civilian gathering place they could.

Once war was formally declared last month, you can’t blame Israel for civilian deaths when Hizbollah conducted it out of homes with the residents still in them….all the while aiming for every Israeli civilian their limited weaponry could reach.

If Israel had not taken the higher moral ground, and used restraint, even going so far as to warn ahead of time, they would have carpet bombed the entire country with weapons they possess which are a lot more lethal than those they used, and taken out Hizbollah and taken over Lebanon, in days….hours even.

And there would have been no Hizbollah illusions about who won.

Certainly if Hizbollah had the weapons Israel has and restrained itself from using, you KNOW Hizbollah would have used them to “wipe Israel completely off the map”.

Wait! Have they not already told the world that?

What is unbelievable is Israel’s restraint.

Neutrality, as a position when confronted with evil, in my opinion, is just a form of moral bankruptcy. It’s hardly a virtue.

And, being non-religious confers no special quality to you either.

…”israel has killed over 1′000 civilians and displaced over a million while hizbollah has killed 150 israelis”….

You, of course, have a linkable and reliable source to that statement? (The rantings of the DU or Kos don’t count.) How about sharing it with us?

So, what’s that mean? The perpetrators of 9/11, London, Bali, Madrid, Beslan just as ok as the Americans, Brits, and Israelis that hunt them down? Or, just as bad?

And, “non-religious” confers what exactly upon the value of your opinions?

The solution to the air travel problem is simple, at least for myself: I will not travel to the US and UK as long as such measures are in place.

But seriously, renting laptops is a great idea – and so would be having broadband on the flights – with a dedicated site that has in-flight content: streaming movies and TV shows, magazines on pdf, games, chat…

I just probably won’t get onto first class to see it.

“Let’s have a separate security terminal at the airport for Muslims and then transport them on commercial airliners in sealed, bomb-proof containers in the oxygenated portion of the cargo hold – supplied, of course with an airline “snack box” for $5 and a drop-down movie screen showing G-rated movies.

Problem solved. The rest of us can keep our toothpaste.”