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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-119146</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is spelling the end of mega stardom.  This studio just drew the line.

And they were right.  More people - me for instance - would have seen MI 3 if it had starred someone else. (starting with me as one extra person) As Mr. Baldwin discovered after &lt;i&gt;the Hunt for Red October&lt;/i&gt;, you don't need to use the same actor even if you are doing a series.

Who was the big star that drew people to the first Spiderman movie? Bruce Campbell?  

Why was &lt;i&gt;My Big Fat Greek Wedding&lt;/i&gt; such a box-office smash? Star power?  

People I think are finally realizing that the so-called stars (selected mostly on the basis of their looks when they are 20 than their acting ability) aren't really needed to tell a good story, and their egos often turn a good story into a bad movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is spelling the end of mega stardom.  This studio just drew the line.</p>
<p>And they were right.  More people - me for instance - would have seen MI 3 if it had starred someone else. (starting with me as one extra person) As Mr. Baldwin discovered after <i>the Hunt for Red October</i>, you don&#8217;t need to use the same actor even if you are doing a series.</p>
<p>Who was the big star that drew people to the first Spiderman movie? Bruce Campbell?  </p>
<p>Why was <i>My Big Fat Greek Wedding</i> such a box-office smash? Star power?  </p>
<p>People I think are finally realizing that the so-called stars (selected mostly on the basis of their looks when they are 20 than their acting ability) aren&#8217;t really needed to tell a good story, and their egos often turn a good story into a bad movie.</p>
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		<title>By: CaNN :: We started it.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118916</link>
		<dc:creator>CaNN :: We started it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] XENU&#8217;S REVENGE&#8211; &#8220;The Hollywood movie mogul Sumner Redstone did everything short of calling Tom Cruise nuts. Itâ€™s about time somebody did.&#8221; Tom finally out-weirded the weird-factory &#8230;. (buzzmachine) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] XENU&#8217;S REVENGE&#8211; &#8220;The Hollywood movie mogul Sumner Redstone did everything short of calling Tom Cruise nuts. Itâ€™s about time somebody did.&#8221; Tom finally out-weirded the weird-factory &#8230;. (buzzmachine) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rik</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118910</link>
		<dc:creator>Rik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

You're just silly.


1. "It may be a dawn for a new era in hollywood" Yeah, if you are willing to watch mediocre actors make mediocre films. Tom, is an artist. Period. Not all of his movies have been great works of art, but a few have. Such as; Magnolia, Eyes Wide Shut, Born On The Fourth Of July, RainMan and The Color of Money. But, more recent was his role in Collateral. ( great film) In other words, he's not going anywhere, but your taste in film has.
Even if he did dissapear, wouldnt change his anility to act. 

As far as your Lisa McPherson statements go. Please, show me one ounce of PROOF.  The charges were dropped.  

"Listen, Bill/Jim, nobody killed anybody. Someone died. It happens all the time. But life goes on. It always does......until it doesn't." - Eyes Wide Shut. 


R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re just silly.</p>
<p>1. &#8220;It may be a dawn for a new era in hollywood&#8221; Yeah, if you are willing to watch mediocre actors make mediocre films. Tom, is an artist. Period. Not all of his movies have been great works of art, but a few have. Such as; Magnolia, Eyes Wide Shut, Born On The Fourth Of July, RainMan and The Color of Money. But, more recent was his role in Collateral. ( great film) In other words, he&#8217;s not going anywhere, but your taste in film has.<br />
Even if he did dissapear, wouldnt change his anility to act. </p>
<p>As far as your Lisa McPherson statements go. Please, show me one ounce of PROOF.  The charges were dropped.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Listen, Bill/Jim, nobody killed anybody. Someone died. It happens all the time. But life goes on. It always does&#8230;&#8230;until it doesn&#8217;t.&#8221; - Eyes Wide Shut. </p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118765</link>
		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eastwood beated up his wife, and you know what? it was more tolerate by media and 'women' than Tom proffessing his love by jumping on a fucking couch!!!

Who's crazy really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eastwood beated up his wife, and you know what? it was more tolerate by media and &#8216;women&#8217; than Tom proffessing his love by jumping on a fucking couch!!!</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s crazy really?</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118761</link>
		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trogdor ,
Tom cruise must NOT be blamed for scientology crimes and McPherson.

Take it to Miscavige and the IRS.
Leave him alone, he is used because he was too nice and naive and he was willing to do good. He made a mistake in his youth.
It could have been you. You could have been Tom or Lisa.

Think about it, because you sound arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trogdor ,<br />
Tom cruise must NOT be blamed for scientology crimes and McPherson.</p>
<p>Take it to Miscavige and the IRS.<br />
Leave him alone, he is used because he was too nice and naive and he was willing to do good. He made a mistake in his youth.<br />
It could have been you. You could have been Tom or Lisa.</p>
<p>Think about it, because you sound arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118750</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celebrities have always been fed exactly what they want, attention.  It may be a dawn for a new era in hollywood, producers may begin to start holding a tighter leash on these fools, I can't say I blame them for that, a star's public image is part of their career.

For those who call the Lisa McPherson story a conspiracy theory, it's strange you make a connection immediately to drug companies, considering their is more evidence that Lisa died of the purification rundown, than any connection between the drug companies and Tom's situation, next you'll be calling me a psychiatrist, and asking if I rape babies.  You're that transparent.

Atheists of the world are just as capable of evil as are religous people.  I see no evidence ortherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celebrities have always been fed exactly what they want, attention.  It may be a dawn for a new era in hollywood, producers may begin to start holding a tighter leash on these fools, I can&#8217;t say I blame them for that, a star&#8217;s public image is part of their career.</p>
<p>For those who call the Lisa McPherson story a conspiracy theory, it&#8217;s strange you make a connection immediately to drug companies, considering their is more evidence that Lisa died of the purification rundown, than any connection between the drug companies and Tom&#8217;s situation, next you&#8217;ll be calling me a psychiatrist, and asking if I rape babies.  You&#8217;re that transparent.</p>
<p>Atheists of the world are just as capable of evil as are religous people.  I see no evidence ortherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve White</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118506</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I suggest that the proper person Mr. Jarvis is seeking is 'dutch uncle'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I suggest that the proper person Mr. Jarvis is seeking is &#8216;dutch uncle&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: EMas</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-118236</link>
		<dc:creator>EMas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting if this is the high water mark for Scientology in Hollywood.  Hollywood was totally in fear of criticizing that cult for fear of  being sued and because stars like Cruise were so popular.

Now that Cruise is seen as a nut- and Scientology being a big part of it, the ride might be over-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting if this is the high water mark for Scientology in Hollywood.  Hollywood was totally in fear of criticizing that cult for fear of  being sued and because stars like Cruise were so popular.</p>
<p>Now that Cruise is seen as a nut- and Scientology being a big part of it, the ride might be over-</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-117062</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Amy&lt;/b&gt; writes: &lt;i&gt;Of course, if people around the world stopped believing in god at this moment, most of the worldâ€™s horror (and terror) would evaporate. &lt;/i&gt;

Amy, I like your spirit of independence (and much of what you post), but I think you are wrong about the relationship between a belief in God and 'most of the world's horror.'

Kat has pointed out the horror perpetrated by atheists. Terror isn't the consequence of a belief (or lack of belief) in God. It's the consequence of the human condition. We lack of omniscience. Even when we seek to do good we at times produce wicked ends. 

Pol Pot and Osma undoubtedly see themselves of agents of good (as they understand good). (I know PP is dead.) Pointing out freaks does not establish that faith or the lack of faith creates horror. For every evil freak there is a St Francis, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Richard Dawkins or Bertrand Russell to be found. 

(Richard Dawkins claims that 'religion is the root of all evil.' He makes his case by specifically ignoring the evil created by atheist. His argument is no doubt well intended, but dishonest. That's not just my opinion: One world famous scientist on the faculty here (Oxford) remarked to me, 'Richard wants to substitute one form of irrationalism with another.' This scientist wasn't speaking against religious faith or science (or Dawkins generally), but against irrational expression. I don't know Dawkins personally, but am told that he is a fine person. 

Nonetheless, Dawkin's near hatred of all things religious could well yield up an evil crop. It would be best imho, if he stuck to his university brief (making science accessable to the public), and dropped his crusade against the theology faculty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Amy</b> writes: <i>Of course, if people around the world stopped believing in god at this moment, most of the worldâ€™s horror (and terror) would evaporate. </i></p>
<p>Amy, I like your spirit of independence (and much of what you post), but I think you are wrong about the relationship between a belief in God and &#8216;most of the world&#8217;s horror.&#8217;</p>
<p>Kat has pointed out the horror perpetrated by atheists. Terror isn&#8217;t the consequence of a belief (or lack of belief) in God. It&#8217;s the consequence of the human condition. We lack of omniscience. Even when we seek to do good we at times produce wicked ends. </p>
<p>Pol Pot and Osma undoubtedly see themselves of agents of good (as they understand good). (I know PP is dead.) Pointing out freaks does not establish that faith or the lack of faith creates horror. For every evil freak there is a St Francis, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Richard Dawkins or Bertrand Russell to be found. </p>
<p>(Richard Dawkins claims that &#8216;religion is the root of all evil.&#8217; He makes his case by specifically ignoring the evil created by atheist. His argument is no doubt well intended, but dishonest. That&#8217;s not just my opinion: One world famous scientist on the faculty here (Oxford) remarked to me, &#8216;Richard wants to substitute one form of irrationalism with another.&#8217; This scientist wasn&#8217;t speaking against religious faith or science (or Dawkins generally), but against irrational expression. I don&#8217;t know Dawkins personally, but am told that he is a fine person. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, Dawkin&#8217;s near hatred of all things religious could well yield up an evil crop. It would be best imho, if he stuck to his university brief (making science accessable to the public), and dropped his crusade against the theology faculty.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill W</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116984</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 06:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, forget about the Lisa McPherson, conspiracy theory. Let's talk about a bigger one.


1. Who made more money last year? Phizer/Desoxyn or Paramount?

2. How much money has the COS spent on fighting these drug companies?

3. At what length will these drug companies go to protect their interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, forget about the Lisa McPherson, conspiracy theory. Let&#8217;s talk about a bigger one.</p>
<p>1. Who made more money last year? Phizer/Desoxyn or Paramount?</p>
<p>2. How much money has the COS spent on fighting these drug companies?</p>
<p>3. At what length will these drug companies go to protect their interest?</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116889</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Amy, all those atheist, non God believing regimes were wonderful.  Notorious atheist butchers like Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot,Kim Il Sung and Enver Hoxha killed and slaughtered their own people at an unheard-of rate. Â When it comes to piling up a body count, atheists take second place to none.
So take your Ritalin and stop talking nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Amy, all those atheist, non God believing regimes were wonderful.  Notorious atheist butchers like Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot,Kim Il Sung and Enver Hoxha killed and slaughtered their own people at an unheard-of rate. Â When it comes to piling up a body count, atheists take second place to none.<br />
So take your Ritalin and stop talking nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Alkon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116870</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Alkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think you have to be "there with the jihadists" to let your mind wander. I lived blocks from the World Trade Center for about five years, and a friend's husband is alive only because she had a TV pitch meeting, and he had to take the kids to school on 9/11. I'm still horrified at what it was misused for -- a war against a sovereign nation not responsible for 9/11 by a president who campaigned on "no nation building." Well, in a way he's right, because what we've built in Iraq is a nice big civil war and more hatred of America. Of course, if people around the world stopped believing in god at this moment, most of the world's horror (and terror) would evaporate. I think the only possibility for peace in the middle east is globalization -- and Ken Layne's tongue-in-cheek (I think) but rather prudent suggestion of relocating the Jewish Israelis to Baja (buying the land, of course - I'm not advocating some Mexican Kelo). If the highest value in Judaism is truly saving a life, well, then there's an unwinnable conflict there, clearly, and why should another kid die because there are a bunch of gum wrappers with messages in them in the Western Wall, and because the urns buried under Israel largely have ancient Hebrew words on it. Is one life worth this? Well, not if you're rational, and not a primitive god believer (despite the complete lack of evidence that there's a god).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to be &#8220;there with the jihadists&#8221; to let your mind wander. I lived blocks from the World Trade Center for about five years, and a friend&#8217;s husband is alive only because she had a TV pitch meeting, and he had to take the kids to school on 9/11. I&#8217;m still horrified at what it was misused for &#8212; a war against a sovereign nation not responsible for 9/11 by a president who campaigned on &#8220;no nation building.&#8221; Well, in a way he&#8217;s right, because what we&#8217;ve built in Iraq is a nice big civil war and more hatred of America. Of course, if people around the world stopped believing in god at this moment, most of the world&#8217;s horror (and terror) would evaporate. I think the only possibility for peace in the middle east is globalization &#8212; and Ken Layne&#8217;s tongue-in-cheek (I think) but rather prudent suggestion of relocating the Jewish Israelis to Baja (buying the land, of course - I&#8217;m not advocating some Mexican Kelo). If the highest value in Judaism is truly saving a life, well, then there&#8217;s an unwinnable conflict there, clearly, and why should another kid die because there are a bunch of gum wrappers with messages in them in the Western Wall, and because the urns buried under Israel largely have ancient Hebrew words on it. Is one life worth this? Well, not if you&#8217;re rational, and not a primitive god believer (despite the complete lack of evidence that there&#8217;s a god).</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kind of speculating is sick--puts him right there with the jihadists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kind of speculating is sick&#8211;puts him right there with the jihadists.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Alkon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116823</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Alkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Kat, I'm neither left nor right, but fiscally extremely conservative and socially libertarian. (I think NPR should be privately funded, and anybody who isn't poverty level should pay for their own damn kids to attend school, and I think we should have stayed out of Iraq and flattened Afghanistan...and I think prostitution, gambling, and drugs should be legal). So, I'm not one of your "moonbats," but an entirely different type of bat altogether. 

I say this to preface this statement: that you, like so many on the right (and forgive me for assuming you're a dittohead, but I can't help myself), are entirely disingenuous when you speak of somebody on the left. The guy isn't wishing; merely speculating. 

I think the Democrats are morons politically, but that's far less of a danger to us than are the liars on the right. There's Michael Moore (lefty liar), sure, but the politically expedient lies on the right just dwarf those coming from the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Kat, I&#8217;m neither left nor right, but fiscally extremely conservative and socially libertarian. (I think NPR should be privately funded, and anybody who isn&#8217;t poverty level should pay for their own damn kids to attend school, and I think we should have stayed out of Iraq and flattened Afghanistan&#8230;and I think prostitution, gambling, and drugs should be legal). So, I&#8217;m not one of your &#8220;moonbats,&#8221; but an entirely different type of bat altogether. </p>
<p>I say this to preface this statement: that you, like so many on the right (and forgive me for assuming you&#8217;re a dittohead, but I can&#8217;t help myself), are entirely disingenuous when you speak of somebody on the left. The guy isn&#8217;t wishing; merely speculating. </p>
<p>I think the Democrats are morons politically, but that&#8217;s far less of a danger to us than are the liars on the right. There&#8217;s Michael Moore (lefty liar), sure, but the politically expedient lies on the right just dwarf those coming from the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116822</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part way through the post, Jeff, I thought you had drifted into a discussion of George Bush -- young scion, surrounded by sycophants, going nuts, etc. But then I realized that, no, that kind of thing could never happen. There are too many checks and balances in our political system for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part way through the post, Jeff, I thought you had drifted into a discussion of George Bush &#8212; young scion, surrounded by sycophants, going nuts, etc. But then I realized that, no, that kind of thing could never happen. There are too many checks and balances in our political system for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Alkon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116818</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Alkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's money, honeys. I'd bet the Brooke Shields bit from Cruise made many, many women dislike him and refuse to see his movies. And then there were his notions about Ritalin, which has changed my life. Sure, I could function without it. But, I function better with it, so what's the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s money, honeys. I&#8217;d bet the Brooke Shields bit from Cruise made many, many women dislike him and refuse to see his movies. And then there were his notions about Ritalin, which has changed my life. Sure, I could function without it. But, I function better with it, so what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116810</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile back at the Huffington moonbats' site, Russell Shaw has moved from Scientology to wishing for another terrorist attack.  These lefties have moved on to bigger things than Cruise--wishing for the deaths of 100 or so Americans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-shaw/i-hope-and-pray-we-dont-_b_28011.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile back at the Huffington moonbats&#8217; site, Russell Shaw has moved from Scientology to wishing for another terrorist attack.  These lefties have moved on to bigger things than Cruise&#8211;wishing for the deaths of 100 or so Americans.<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-shaw/i-hope-and-pray-we-dont-_b_28011.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-shaw/i-hope-and-pray-we-dont-_b_28011.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116783</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say Redstone will turn out to be the greter fool in this little brouhaha.  People in the business are already coming to Cruise's defense (no surprise there) and those being accused of having a hand in the dismissal (Spielberg) are quickly issuing press releases denying it.  No mater what we may think of Cruise personally (I think he's a nut job and not a partciluarly good actor), he can still rake in millions.  He'll have no problem getting a studio to back him.  Paramount on the other hand has lost one of their most bankable stars and their management staff has been made to look like fools.  Cruise on the other hand is keeping his head down while everyone else shakes their heads at the "nutty" antics of Sumner Redstone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say Redstone will turn out to be the greter fool in this little brouhaha.  People in the business are already coming to Cruise&#8217;s defense (no surprise there) and those being accused of having a hand in the dismissal (Spielberg) are quickly issuing press releases denying it.  No mater what we may think of Cruise personally (I think he&#8217;s a nut job and not a partciluarly good actor), he can still rake in millions.  He&#8217;ll have no problem getting a studio to back him.  Paramount on the other hand has lost one of their most bankable stars and their management staff has been made to look like fools.  Cruise on the other hand is keeping his head down while everyone else shakes their heads at the &#8220;nutty&#8221; antics of Sumner Redstone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116739</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff writes: &lt;i&gt;they [scientologists] are answerable for John Travoltaâ€™s irrepressible ego. &lt;/i&gt;

Surely you jest? 

Is an 'irrepressible ego' unusual in Hollywood? Was Travolta without an 'irrepressible ego' in his pre scientology days? Maybe Travolta's irrepressible ego is all Gabe Kaplan's fault. Without scientology he'd probably be a regular Charlie Sheen.

Scientology seems pretty wacky, but it's as legal as the LDS. (Or, is it the LSD? Whichever group calls itself the Morons, and once followed Muhammad's teaching on harem keeping.) If Colonel Doniphan had only followed orders and shot that Smith guy (and friends), we might not now have to deal with beehives, Donney Osmond and Mitt Romney. I think Smith promised  Doniphan a planet in exchange for letting them go.

Full disclosure: I am not a scientologist. I am not a member of the LDS. 

I am a Baptist. Once upon a time Baptists were persecuted for being Baptists. In the UK, Baptists (and other religious non-conformists) were denied admission to Oxford and Cambridge until about 1909. Indeed, John Bunyan (way back when) was tossed in jail for his Baptist beliefs. That was good. He used his time to write a famous book. No, it wasn't &lt;i&gt; Mein Kampf,&lt;/i&gt; but not everyone has it in them to write a classic on religious toleration like that German guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff writes: <i>they [scientologists] are answerable for John Travoltaâ€™s irrepressible ego. </i></p>
<p>Surely you jest? </p>
<p>Is an &#8216;irrepressible ego&#8217; unusual in Hollywood? Was Travolta without an &#8216;irrepressible ego&#8217; in his pre scientology days? Maybe Travolta&#8217;s irrepressible ego is all Gabe Kaplan&#8217;s fault. Without scientology he&#8217;d probably be a regular Charlie Sheen.</p>
<p>Scientology seems pretty wacky, but it&#8217;s as legal as the LDS. (Or, is it the LSD? Whichever group calls itself the Morons, and once followed Muhammad&#8217;s teaching on harem keeping.) If Colonel Doniphan had only followed orders and shot that Smith guy (and friends), we might not now have to deal with beehives, Donney Osmond and Mitt Romney. I think Smith promised  Doniphan a planet in exchange for letting them go.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I am not a scientologist. I am not a member of the LDS. </p>
<p>I am a Baptist. Once upon a time Baptists were persecuted for being Baptists. In the UK, Baptists (and other religious non-conformists) were denied admission to Oxford and Cambridge until about 1909. Indeed, John Bunyan (way back when) was tossed in jail for his Baptist beliefs. That was good. He used his time to write a famous book. No, it wasn&#8217;t <i> Mein Kampf,</i> but not everyone has it in them to write a classic on religious toleration like that German guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Telford Work</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116737</link>
		<dc:creator>Telford Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't forget that to the studios these people aren't just the next project's gross, but future returns from all the previous projects the studios still own.

If a temporary dip in Tom Cruise's reputation wrecks the next picture's profits, that's bad. If his permanent self-destruction lowers the value of all those pictures that could still earning money decades from now, that's a lot worse.

In extreme cases it is probably better for a studio to try to cut its losses before the whole legacy depreciates too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that to the studios these people aren&#8217;t just the next project&#8217;s gross, but future returns from all the previous projects the studios still own.</p>
<p>If a temporary dip in Tom Cruise&#8217;s reputation wrecks the next picture&#8217;s profits, that&#8217;s bad. If his permanent self-destruction lowers the value of all those pictures that could still earning money decades from now, that&#8217;s a lot worse.</p>
<p>In extreme cases it is probably better for a studio to try to cut its losses before the whole legacy depreciates too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Trogdor</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116705</link>
		<dc:creator>Trogdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And just what are the scornable consequences that Scientology has fostered?"

Mr. Shaw should read up about Lisa McPherson, or any of a laundry list of Scientology's mounting pile of victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And just what are the scornable consequences that Scientology has fostered?&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Shaw should read up about Lisa McPherson, or any of a laundry list of Scientology&#8217;s mounting pile of victims.</p>
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		<title>By: celcus</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116696</link>
		<dc:creator>celcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We feed the celebrity ego with endless attention"

Who is the "We."

Personally I don't give rat's a$$ about Tom Bennet Jakko Gibson OJ Hilton, but I have little choice in the matter.

Just because I am forced to sit through their antics or the latest non-development in the latest case of the missing attractive white women because I would like to know if that cold front is going to come through in the morning or later in the day does not mean I am â€œobsessedâ€ with nor even remotely â€œinterestedâ€.  It simply is not possible in the mainstream media to find a national or even local outlet that does not cover this crap. 

What it does mean is I will seek out any alternative to the â€œmainstreamâ€ (which is anything but) and I have been. The list of magazines I no longer subscribe to, network programming I do not watch, radio station I do not listen to and so on, continues to grow. 

The â€œWeâ€ seems more and more to be that single demographic anointed on high by "advertisers" as the sole arbiter of all culture, the rest of us are just stuck on this ride, our opinions irrelevant.

Fortunately some alternatives are beginning to emerge, but I am not holding my breath. Too many times have I seen the promising upstart lured by the advertisers into making those â€œsubtleâ€ programming changes which soon renders them undistinguishable from the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We feed the celebrity ego with endless attention&#8221;</p>
<p>Who is the &#8220;We.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t give rat&#8217;s a$$ about Tom Bennet Jakko Gibson OJ Hilton, but I have little choice in the matter.</p>
<p>Just because I am forced to sit through their antics or the latest non-development in the latest case of the missing attractive white women because I would like to know if that cold front is going to come through in the morning or later in the day does not mean I am â€œobsessedâ€ with nor even remotely â€œinterestedâ€.  It simply is not possible in the mainstream media to find a national or even local outlet that does not cover this crap. </p>
<p>What it does mean is I will seek out any alternative to the â€œmainstreamâ€ (which is anything but) and I have been. The list of magazines I no longer subscribe to, network programming I do not watch, radio station I do not listen to and so on, continues to grow. </p>
<p>The â€œWeâ€ seems more and more to be that single demographic anointed on high by &#8220;advertisers&#8221; as the sole arbiter of all culture, the rest of us are just stuck on this ride, our opinions irrelevant.</p>
<p>Fortunately some alternatives are beginning to emerge, but I am not holding my breath. Too many times have I seen the promising upstart lured by the advertisers into making those â€œsubtleâ€ programming changes which soon renders them undistinguishable from the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116689</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff writes: &lt;i&gt;Maybe somebody could have stopped them before they went over the loony line. &lt;/i&gt;

Maybe somebody who knows them should have, but not just any buzzybody. Unless he's done something illegal, why be meddlesome.  

Jeff continues: &lt;i&gt;And so they were allowed to get nuttier and nuttier before our very eyes.&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, that's what it means to live in a free country. He's entitled to be as nutty as he wants to be. As long as he isn't criminally insane, it's none of our business. 

Enforcing political correctness is a bad idea. It's one thing to dispute ideas, and quite another to seek to penalise folks for holding those ideas. 'Stopping' someone looks to have more in common with coercion than disputation.

Do we really need western ayatollahs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff writes: <i>Maybe somebody could have stopped them before they went over the loony line. </i></p>
<p>Maybe somebody who knows them should have, but not just any buzzybody. Unless he&#8217;s done something illegal, why be meddlesome.  </p>
<p>Jeff continues: <i>And so they were allowed to get nuttier and nuttier before our very eyes.</i></p>
<p>Yep, that&#8217;s what it means to live in a free country. He&#8217;s entitled to be as nutty as he wants to be. As long as he isn&#8217;t criminally insane, it&#8217;s none of our business. </p>
<p>Enforcing political correctness is a bad idea. It&#8217;s one thing to dispute ideas, and quite another to seek to penalise folks for holding those ideas. &#8216;Stopping&#8217; someone looks to have more in common with coercion than disputation.</p>
<p>Do we really need western ayatollahs?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116664</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And just what are the scornable consequences that Scientology has fostered?"

Does this yo-yo really not know about the trail of deaths the Co$ has left behind it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And just what are the scornable consequences that Scientology has fostered?&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this yo-yo really not know about the trail of deaths the Co$ has left behind it?</p>
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		<title>By: kat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/25/nucking-futs/#comment-116663</link>
		<dc:creator>kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Scientology should have followed this advice--jumping on Opera's couch and acting like a complete deranged lunatic was unimpressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Scientology should have followed this advice&#8211;jumping on Opera&#8217;s couch and acting like a complete deranged lunatic was unimpressive.</p>
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