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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Azeem Akhter</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-140621</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Azeem Akhter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions of people have been killed by the West around the world.

1- The Holocaust
2- Vietnam
3- Iraq
4- Afghanistan
5- Native American Genocide
6- Australian - Aboriginals Genocide
7- Japan - use of atomic bombs against civilians
8- Russia
9- World War I
10- World War II
11- World War III - The West is getting ready for the World War III but it is too late. Asia is too strong think of China, India, and Pakistan.

Read More â€¦

http://pakistan1947.blogspot.com/2006/08/shadows-of-great-game.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions of people have been killed by the West around the world.</p>
<p>1- The Holocaust<br />
2- Vietnam<br />
3- Iraq<br />
4- Afghanistan<br />
5- Native American Genocide<br />
6- Australian - Aboriginals Genocide<br />
7- Japan - use of atomic bombs against civilians<br />
8- Russia<br />
9- World War I<br />
10- World War II<br />
11- World War III - The West is getting ready for the World War III but it is too late. Asia is too strong think of China, India, and Pakistan.</p>
<p>Read More â€¦</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-130558</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Hoffer:  Thank you for sharing the Mourner's Kaddish.  It strengthens this Christian's heart.

Regarding the 'tired WWII analogy' Jersey Exile brought up:  I was born more than a decade after WWII ended, so all I know about that horror is what I've read and what I've seen in pictures.  The Nazi annihilate-those-you-hate campaign utterly sickens me and has angered me, but it doesn't shake my soul like 9/11 did because I didn't witness the WWII horrors with my own eyes.

However, on 9/11/01, I just happened to turn on the television and see the first tower on fire, then the second tower hit, then the towers collapse, one after the other.  As the first tower fell, I was knocked to the floor, overcome by the horror.  My body was shaking, and I was sobbing because what I saw was annihilation.  

Utter annihilation.  Those people in the planes and the towers were annihilated.  I don't remember if bin Laden expected the towers to fall, but I certainly remember seeing a video of him expressing pleasure that they did.  He rejoiced in the annihilation of our people.

In my opinion, the analogy between WWII and 9/11 keeps cropping up because 9/11 was an annihilate-those-you-hate campaign.  To be reminded that we humans are capable of such horrible things is not a tiring experience, but a mournful one.  

To restate what Robert supplied in his post about the Mourner's Kaddish, "Glorified and sanctified be Godâ€™s great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Hoffer:  Thank you for sharing the Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish.  It strengthens this Christian&#8217;s heart.</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8216;tired WWII analogy&#8217; Jersey Exile brought up:  I was born more than a decade after WWII ended, so all I know about that horror is what I&#8217;ve read and what I&#8217;ve seen in pictures.  The Nazi annihilate-those-you-hate campaign utterly sickens me and has angered me, but it doesn&#8217;t shake my soul like 9/11 did because I didn&#8217;t witness the WWII horrors with my own eyes.</p>
<p>However, on 9/11/01, I just happened to turn on the television and see the first tower on fire, then the second tower hit, then the towers collapse, one after the other.  As the first tower fell, I was knocked to the floor, overcome by the horror.  My body was shaking, and I was sobbing because what I saw was annihilation.  </p>
<p>Utter annihilation.  Those people in the planes and the towers were annihilated.  I don&#8217;t remember if bin Laden expected the towers to fall, but I certainly remember seeing a video of him expressing pleasure that they did.  He rejoiced in the annihilation of our people.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the analogy between WWII and 9/11 keeps cropping up because 9/11 was an annihilate-those-you-hate campaign.  To be reminded that we humans are capable of such horrible things is not a tiring experience, but a mournful one.  </p>
<p>To restate what Robert supplied in his post about the Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish, &#8220;Glorified and sanctified be Godâ€™s great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-130453</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"That is why I carry a camera with me every day now." Me too. I'm ready to take pictures of things I never want to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is why I carry a camera with me every day now.&#8221; Me too. I&#8217;m ready to take pictures of things I never want to see.</p>
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		<title>By: On The Turning Away &#187; 9/11: 5 Years Later</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-130361</link>
		<dc:creator>On The Turning Away &#187; 9/11: 5 Years Later</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Five years later, it&#8217;s another crisp, clear September sky. Miles from Ground Zero, we hear the tolling bell and the poignant tunes of pipe band. Adam Gopnik, of the New Yorker, once said, &#8220;In New York, we suffer from a Tragedy of the Uncommons.&#8221; On this day, as put by BuzzMachine, &#8220;we measure tragedy as media does: en masse. That is mediaâ€™s narrative, mediaâ€™s worldview.&#8221; But tragedy is personal. We would not care if it did not touch us. For those haunted with pain, we leave you with Milan Kundera&#8217;s words, &#8220;the struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.&#8221;        &#171; &#8220;Still Life&#8221; Claims Golden Lion at Venice &#160; Dealmaker: Coming to a Newsstand near You &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Five years later, it&#8217;s another crisp, clear September sky. Miles from Ground Zero, we hear the tolling bell and the poignant tunes of pipe band. Adam Gopnik, of the New Yorker, once said, &#8220;In New York, we suffer from a Tragedy of the Uncommons.&#8221; On this day, as put by BuzzMachine, &#8220;we measure tragedy as media does: en masse. That is mediaâ€™s narrative, mediaâ€™s worldview.&#8221; But tragedy is personal. We would not care if it did not touch us. For those haunted with pain, we leave you with Milan Kundera&#8217;s words, &#8220;the struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.&#8221;        &laquo; &#8220;Still Life&#8221; Claims Golden Lion at Venice &nbsp; Dealmaker: Coming to a Newsstand near You &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Undertoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Undertoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard Stern's real-time rebroadcast of his day five years ago is incredible listening this morning.  All the confusion, the fear, the amazement, the drama, the sorrow of that morning are rushing back.

The haze of war: did the WTC fall completely because a third plane went in?  Are two planes missing headed for LA?  This is war!  Er, isn't it?  Did the pilots drive that plane in Pennsylvania into the ground instead of letting it be hijacked?  

Should the President be making a statement, or should he be bunkered down talking with his team figuring out what next?

The firm resolution: we've got to go to war!  But against... a country? A person?

The sudden insight: we know it's probably a terrorist group in the mideast, maybe that bin Laden guy, but the network news broadcasts won't speculate on that - because speculation is utterly dangerous - even though everyone in the country is speculating - WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Stern&#8217;s real-time rebroadcast of his day five years ago is incredible listening this morning.  All the confusion, the fear, the amazement, the drama, the sorrow of that morning are rushing back.</p>
<p>The haze of war: did the WTC fall completely because a third plane went in?  Are two planes missing headed for LA?  This is war!  Er, isn&#8217;t it?  Did the pilots drive that plane in Pennsylvania into the ground instead of letting it be hijacked?  </p>
<p>Should the President be making a statement, or should he be bunkered down talking with his team figuring out what next?</p>
<p>The firm resolution: we&#8217;ve got to go to war!  But against&#8230; a country? A person?</p>
<p>The sudden insight: we know it&#8217;s probably a terrorist group in the mideast, maybe that bin Laden guy, but the network news broadcasts won&#8217;t speculate on that - because speculation is utterly dangerous - even though everyone in the country is speculating - WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know the details of ABC's motives or advertising but I am quite sure that Jarvis is all over the place.

They did it for "ratings" but couldn't find any sponsors.  Huh?  Assume that ridiculous notion is true, even if they had sold top dollar ads, Jarvis would be complaining that ABC was "profiting" from exploiting tragedy.  Bank on that.

If someone sells T-shirts at Ground Zero that's bad.  If a tourist yells "Look kids, Ground Zero...", on a PATH Train that's insulting.  God forbid someone else co-opts this tragedy.  I am confused, I thought it was all about the harpies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the details of ABC&#8217;s motives or advertising but I am quite sure that Jarvis is all over the place.</p>
<p>They did it for &#8220;ratings&#8221; but couldn&#8217;t find any sponsors.  Huh?  Assume that ridiculous notion is true, even if they had sold top dollar ads, Jarvis would be complaining that ABC was &#8220;profiting&#8221; from exploiting tragedy.  Bank on that.</p>
<p>If someone sells T-shirts at Ground Zero that&#8217;s bad.  If a tourist yells &#8220;Look kids, Ground Zero&#8230;&#8221;, on a PATH Train that&#8217;s insulting.  God forbid someone else co-opts this tragedy.  I am confused, I thought it was all about the harpies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Exile</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-130333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the tired World War Two analogy.  Remind me again how long it took for us the defeat the combined might of the Nazi and Japanese empires.  And we're five years and counting still looking for a Saudi on dialysis (who by our best estimate is hiding in a country that purports to be our ally!)?  

Invoking Churchill was cute in 2003.  Now it's just pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the tired World War Two analogy.  Remind me again how long it took for us the defeat the combined might of the Nazi and Japanese empires.  And we&#8217;re five years and counting still looking for a Saudi on dialysis (who by our best estimate is hiding in a country that purports to be our ally!)?  </p>
<p>Invoking Churchill was cute in 2003.  Now it&#8217;s just pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-130321</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The facts... speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation...

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God."

FDR
December 8, 1941</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The facts&#8230; speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation&#8230;</p>
<p>Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.</p>
<p>I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.</p>
<p>Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.</p>
<p>With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.&#8221;</p>
<p>FDR<br />
December 8, 1941</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captious: Oh, ABC tried to sell commercials. they failed.</description>
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		<title>By: Serge Lescouarnec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Lescouarnec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well

I woke up this morning with memories of that day, where I was, what I was doing and decided I did not want to be another pundit on my blog 'Serge the Concierge' so my post is just 2 words long.
Everyone can fill in with their own personal thoughts and memories.

Serge
Biz:
http://www.njconcierges.com
Blog:
http://www.sergetheconcierge.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well</p>
<p>I woke up this morning with memories of that day, where I was, what I was doing and decided I did not want to be another pundit on my blog &#8216;Serge the Concierge&#8217; so my post is just 2 words long.<br />
Everyone can fill in with their own personal thoughts and memories.</p>
<p>Serge<br />
Biz:<br />
<a href="http://www.njconcierges.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.njconcierges.com</a><br />
Blog:<br />
<a href="http://www.sergetheconcierge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sergetheconcierge.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: knightopia.com &#124; Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 9/11 Round-up</title>
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		<dc:creator>knightopia.com &#124; Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 9/11 Round-up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Five Years On: Tragic Proportions [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two-thirds of New Yorkers versus one fifth of the rest of America being worried about a terrorist attack is not illogical.

The day I moved my family from Brooklyn to NC, I stopped worrying about terrorism.

Also being "concerned" about terrorism is vacant when NY'ers support pols with similarly toothless approaches to dealing with &lt;em&gt;insurgents of Asian descent&lt;/em&gt;.

How is "The Path to 9/11" made for "the sake of ratings"?  I didn't see any commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two-thirds of New Yorkers versus one fifth of the rest of America being worried about a terrorist attack is not illogical.</p>
<p>The day I moved my family from Brooklyn to NC, I stopped worrying about terrorism.</p>
<p>Also being &#8220;concerned&#8221; about terrorism is vacant when NY&#8217;ers support pols with similarly toothless approaches to dealing with <em>insurgents of Asian descent</em>.</p>
<p>How is &#8220;The Path to 9/11&#8243; made for &#8220;the sake of ratings&#8221;?  I didn&#8217;t see any commercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff  - apart from the utter joy that I feel that you are still here with us to keep the faith especially I am touched by your invocation of the notion of "yahrzeit"  which I've opted to transliterate more phonetically from the Yiddish than your spelling in hopes of making it a touch easier for your gentile readers to pronounce. (Forgive me my old friend but I've heard you butcher my ancestral tongue on enough occasions to make me feel obliged to step in here). 

Traditionally we light a candle - which burns for 24 hours. We also recite a form of a prayer called Kaddish which comes from an Aramaic word meaning holy. The Mourner's Kaddish is a reaffirmation of faith. Traditions vary slightly but generally the mourner will stand alone amongst the congregation and recite in Hebrew the following words:

The Mourner's Kaddish
Glorified and sanctified be God's great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.

May His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity. 

Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, beyond all the blessings and hymns, praises and consolations that are ever spoken in the world; and say, Amen.

May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us
and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

He who creates peace in His celestial heights, may He create peace for us and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

I was taught as a child that the accepted principal behind the Mourner's Kaddish is that when faced with the potential of a crisis of faith due to the loss of a loved one - it may be necessary to reaffirm that faith by actively verbalizing one's reverance of God. Readers can find the Mourner's Kaddish here:  http://www.jewfaq.org/prayer/kaddish.htm

It moves me that your traditions in rememberance of that awful day embody perfectly the spirit of Yahrzeit - and the notion of the Kaddish with one minor exception - in this Mourner's Kaddish you do not stand alone. We as your congregation stand with you out of respect for the great loss that we all feel for our fallen bretheren who died as victims of an extremist movement which holds as a central political agenda the destruction of the State of Israel. This hackneyed agenda of death is almost as old as the Kaddish itself - and thus far - it has failed. It has failed so many times that we Jews joke about it amongst ourselves saying that our holidays can be summed up as follows: "They tried to kill us; they failed; let's eat." We make light of their evil and laugh in the face of their hatred - and we go on - keeping the faith.

Speaking personally I am grateful for your staunch support of Israel and for your continued faith and your tireless blogging in support of rational thinking. 

Stand tall Jarvis - and say Kaddish with pride for today you are clearly an honorary member of the tribe and I for one am proud of you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff  - apart from the utter joy that I feel that you are still here with us to keep the faith especially I am touched by your invocation of the notion of &#8220;yahrzeit&#8221;  which I&#8217;ve opted to transliterate more phonetically from the Yiddish than your spelling in hopes of making it a touch easier for your gentile readers to pronounce. (Forgive me my old friend but I&#8217;ve heard you butcher my ancestral tongue on enough occasions to make me feel obliged to step in here). </p>
<p>Traditionally we light a candle - which burns for 24 hours. We also recite a form of a prayer called Kaddish which comes from an Aramaic word meaning holy. The Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish is a reaffirmation of faith. Traditions vary slightly but generally the mourner will stand alone amongst the congregation and recite in Hebrew the following words:</p>
<p>The Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish<br />
Glorified and sanctified be God&#8217;s great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.</p>
<p>May His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity. </p>
<p>Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, beyond all the blessings and hymns, praises and consolations that are ever spoken in the world; and say, Amen.</p>
<p>May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us<br />
and for all Israel; and say, Amen.</p>
<p>He who creates peace in His celestial heights, may He create peace for us and for all Israel; and say, Amen.</p>
<p>I was taught as a child that the accepted principal behind the Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish is that when faced with the potential of a crisis of faith due to the loss of a loved one - it may be necessary to reaffirm that faith by actively verbalizing one&#8217;s reverance of God. Readers can find the Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish here:  <a href="http://www.jewfaq.org/prayer/kaddish.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewfaq.org/prayer/kaddish.htm</a></p>
<p>It moves me that your traditions in rememberance of that awful day embody perfectly the spirit of Yahrzeit - and the notion of the Kaddish with one minor exception - in this Mourner&#8217;s Kaddish you do not stand alone. We as your congregation stand with you out of respect for the great loss that we all feel for our fallen bretheren who died as victims of an extremist movement which holds as a central political agenda the destruction of the State of Israel. This hackneyed agenda of death is almost as old as the Kaddish itself - and thus far - it has failed. It has failed so many times that we Jews joke about it amongst ourselves saying that our holidays can be summed up as follows: &#8220;They tried to kill us; they failed; let&#8217;s eat.&#8221; We make light of their evil and laugh in the face of their hatred - and we go on - keeping the faith.</p>
<p>Speaking personally I am grateful for your staunch support of Israel and for your continued faith and your tireless blogging in support of rational thinking. </p>
<p>Stand tall Jarvis - and say Kaddish with pride for today you are clearly an honorary member of the tribe and I for one am proud of you for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 05:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, great post.

You're right, you probably wouldn't have as many readers if this personal tragedy/lifechanging event that you write about was, for instance, a car crash, even though, to a great many people, car crashes are directly relatable events. But car crashes just aren't big news; they affect people on such local levels, etc. The events of 9/11, while hardly having a direct affect on someone like me all the way on the other side of the country (although I should note, I would never assume that you NYers are "being self-indulgent or silly or merely not as tough as we act"), are grounded by implications that are more newsworthy than those everyday car crashes.

I'd say that with continued coverage (and not silence) viewers like me will gain a much better understanding of the day. I mean, on 9/11/2001 I sat in a living room and listened to Katie Couric narrate these images on the screen -- but she was basically unable to do anything more than provide captions for the images. It was still entertainment; I still got up at the commercial break and then went off to work. Tonight I watched the documentary by the Naudet Bros. I find these personal documents to be very interesting, because they provide us with something immediate to (try to) relate to. Personally, I want to know more details about the events -- the whole thing is very grand, and I know that there is a lot of information, from the ground, that is of great value. So it helped me to gain a perspective on the day that's on a more personal level than those I've developed from the vague, unengaging, fear-mongering nightly news stories. My daily life and my daily thoughts may not have changed significantly by the remote, though resonant, events of 9/11, but that doesn't mean that my primary reaction to them is one of fear (as implied by Simon Jenkins). I absorbed as much as I could from the personal narratives from the Naudet documentary, and as a result I don't feel more fearful, only more sympathetic and understanding.

The only part that left a sour spot was from the third member of the documentary, the blond guy (I missed his name). He narrated occasionally, and made comments -- but most were with, I perceived, scripted sentiments. I imagined that he had written all his words beforehand, perfected the dramatic pauses, etc., and although such elements in his presentation shouldn't necessarily detract from the ideas (given the subject, and the fact that he's not bullshitting us), it just seemed obvious to me that he wasn't, as the others were, providing us with a rounded view of his life and feelings, but was just giving us the bits we wanted to hear and could easily react to. I don't mean to sound like a jerk here; he just came across as an entertainer, with an approach that degrades those gut responses and unmediated emotions that guided the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, great post.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, you probably wouldn&#8217;t have as many readers if this personal tragedy/lifechanging event that you write about was, for instance, a car crash, even though, to a great many people, car crashes are directly relatable events. But car crashes just aren&#8217;t big news; they affect people on such local levels, etc. The events of 9/11, while hardly having a direct affect on someone like me all the way on the other side of the country (although I should note, I would never assume that you NYers are &#8220;being self-indulgent or silly or merely not as tough as we act&#8221;), are grounded by implications that are more newsworthy than those everyday car crashes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that with continued coverage (and not silence) viewers like me will gain a much better understanding of the day. I mean, on 9/11/2001 I sat in a living room and listened to Katie Couric narrate these images on the screen &#8212; but she was basically unable to do anything more than provide captions for the images. It was still entertainment; I still got up at the commercial break and then went off to work. Tonight I watched the documentary by the Naudet Bros. I find these personal documents to be very interesting, because they provide us with something immediate to (try to) relate to. Personally, I want to know more details about the events &#8212; the whole thing is very grand, and I know that there is a lot of information, from the ground, that is of great value. So it helped me to gain a perspective on the day that&#8217;s on a more personal level than those I&#8217;ve developed from the vague, unengaging, fear-mongering nightly news stories. My daily life and my daily thoughts may not have changed significantly by the remote, though resonant, events of 9/11, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that my primary reaction to them is one of fear (as implied by Simon Jenkins). I absorbed as much as I could from the personal narratives from the Naudet documentary, and as a result I don&#8217;t feel more fearful, only more sympathetic and understanding.</p>
<p>The only part that left a sour spot was from the third member of the documentary, the blond guy (I missed his name). He narrated occasionally, and made comments &#8212; but most were with, I perceived, scripted sentiments. I imagined that he had written all his words beforehand, perfected the dramatic pauses, etc., and although such elements in his presentation shouldn&#8217;t necessarily detract from the ideas (given the subject, and the fact that he&#8217;s not bullshitting us), it just seemed obvious to me that he wasn&#8217;t, as the others were, providing us with a rounded view of his life and feelings, but was just giving us the bits we wanted to hear and could easily react to. I don&#8217;t mean to sound like a jerk here; he just came across as an entertainer, with an approach that degrades those gut responses and unmediated emotions that guided the day.</p>
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		<title>By: The media of 9/11 at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/10/five-years-on-tragic-proportions/#comment-129929</link>
		<dc:creator>The media of 9/11 at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 04:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis came to my attention when he first started his blog, for weeks I was rivetedÂ  and deeply moved by hisÂ blogging as he struggled to come to terms with his experience in New York , his survival that September day.Â  He revisits his experiences, his need to write, and his need to write five years after and he is still riveting. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis came to my attention when he first started his blog, for weeks I was rivetedÂ  and deeply moved by hisÂ blogging as he struggled to come to terms with his experience in New York , his survival that September day.Â  He revisits his experiences, his need to write, and his need to write five years after and he is still riveting. [...]</p>
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