Comments on: Out of Time http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:43:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Colin Crawford http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-140027 Colin Crawford Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:07:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-140027 For Brands to prosper in a world of search, aggregation and social networking they need to focus on the engagement of their communites. In the end the Brands are the voice of the special interest communities. Brands can play a huge role in helping surface and showcase quality content but only if they realize that great content, while coming from professional journalist also comes from their communities. Colin Crawford, SVP Online IDG Communications For Brands to prosper in a world of search, aggregation and social networking they need to focus on the engagement of their communites. In the end the Brands are the voice of the special interest communities. Brands can play a huge role in helping surface and showcase quality content but only if they realize that great content, while coming from professional journalist also comes from their communities. Colin Crawford, SVP Online IDG Communications

]]> By: Lark Williams http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-137072 Lark Williams Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:08:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-137072 Folio, the magazine publishing trade book, published an article on this subject. I think it is worth a read http://www.foliomag.com/viewMedia.asp?prmMID=5958 Folio, the magazine publishing trade book, published an article on this subject. I think it is worth a read

http://www.foliomag.com/viewMedia.asp?prmMID=5958

]]> By: robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » Why I Have No Time for Time http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136852 robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » Why I Have No Time for Time Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:17:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136852 [...] As usual, Jeff Jarvis is on the case, preaching the wisdom of being the core of a community of interest. Smart stuff, and I would quote him, but this is a family blog and he uses bad words. In short, take one Time Magazine, add several pounds of the Huffington Post, a few gallons of community and drop the gates. [...] [...] As usual, Jeff Jarvis is on the case, preaching the wisdom of being the core of a community of interest. Smart stuff, and I would quote him, but this is a family blog and he uses bad words. In short, take one Time Magazine, add several pounds of the Huffington Post, a few gallons of community and drop the gates. [...]

]]> By: » SYNTAGMA - 40-Site Web Network Magazine http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136756 » SYNTAGMA - 40-Site Web Network Magazine Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:06:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136756 [...] Jeff Jarvis gets it in one: “Magazines could have had a unique benefit in the internet if they had thought of themselves not as slick paper but instead of networks of interest and information. … Sadly, not many in the business view it this way. They’re still thinking content and control. They’re still thinking centralized. Break out and think distributed and think community and new things become possible.” [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis gets it in one: “Magazines could have had a unique benefit in the internet if they had thought of themselves not as slick paper but instead of networks of interest and information. … Sadly, not many in the business view it this way. They’re still thinking content and control. They’re still thinking centralized. Break out and think distributed and think community and new things become possible.” [...]

]]> By: Virt http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136717 Virt Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:27:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136717 These are different times. It isn't only the established magazine publishers who are feeling the parched air of death sucking out their last breaths of oxygen. Companies that were once considered as solid as the US government are being put on life support, companies like General Motors and Ford. Of course, the US government isn't exactly what it was only a few short years ago. Assimilated Press Read <a href="http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/2006/09/wall-street-journal-editorial-board.html" rel="nofollow">Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Resigns In Disgrace</a> These are different times. It isn’t only the established magazine publishers who are feeling the parched air of death sucking out their last breaths of oxygen. Companies that were once considered as solid as the US government are being put on life support, companies like General Motors and Ford. Of course, the US government isn’t exactly what it was only a few short years ago.

Assimilated Press
Read Wall Street Journal Editorial Board Resigns In Disgrace

]]> By: Carson Bennett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136622 Carson Bennett Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:23:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136622 At a meeting about six months ago in Washington, the editor of one well known political journal and the assoc. editor of another well known political journal on the other side both commented, in answer to a question about blogs and newspapers in their own work, that in addition to blogs they found they still read newspapers but that, amazingly, in the past year they found themselves writing -- and finishing -- pieces without consulting the news magazines to be sure they hadn't missed something. That would have been unheard of ten years ago -- even five. It says a lot about their relevance in today's portfolio of media. At a meeting about six months ago in Washington, the editor of one well known political journal and the assoc. editor of another well known political journal on the other side both commented, in answer to a question about blogs and newspapers in their own work, that in addition to blogs they found they still read newspapers but that, amazingly, in the past year they found themselves writing — and finishing — pieces without consulting the news magazines to be sure they hadn’t missed something. That would have been unheard of ten years ago — even five. It says a lot about their relevance in today’s portfolio of media.

]]> By: adslfan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136465 adslfan Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:31:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136465 use your millions and buy all the time magazines. then you can put yourself on the cover of time . use your millions and buy all the time magazines. then you can put yourself
on the cover of time .

]]> By: Stu http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136438 Stu Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:42:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136438 I like the point you make about viewing your audience with the networks of interest and information lens. We have moved past the times, where creating a web presence, simply serves as another distribution channel for your brand. Oprah and ESPN, won that game, as the Kings and Queens of All Media (Sorry Howard). They "got it" better, than the pack. It will be great to see if the magazines, can figure how to adopt to the networked world, where distribution is infinite and connections are key...and video too. I like the point you make about viewing your audience with the networks of interest and information lens.

We have moved past the times, where creating a web presence, simply serves as another distribution channel for your brand. Oprah and ESPN, won that game, as the Kings and Queens of All Media (Sorry Howard). They “got it” better, than the pack.

It will be great to see if the magazines, can figure how to adopt to the networked world, where distribution is infinite and connections are key…and video too.

]]> By: Mike G http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136424 Mike G Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:13:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136424 Working in the ad biz in Chicago, most of the agencies I've worked for have, at one time or another, worked for or wanted to work for Sears. To which I always asked-- why? I understood what Sears was in the era of mail order, and in the era of Main Street shopping. But when there's a mall, what is Sears? A single store trying to be everything a mall is, but not being able to pull it off because it's only one store. Same for Time or Newsweek. Maybe there's a business in being a weekly summarizer, but it seems doubtful to me. Working in the ad biz in Chicago, most of the agencies I’ve worked for have, at one time or another, worked for or wanted to work for Sears. To which I always asked– why? I understood what Sears was in the era of mail order, and in the era of Main Street shopping. But when there’s a mall, what is Sears? A single store trying to be everything a mall is, but not being able to pull it off because it’s only one store.

Same for Time or Newsweek. Maybe there’s a business in being a weekly summarizer, but it seems doubtful to me.

]]> By: Dan Blank http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136378 Dan Blank Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:12:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136378 Part of the new dynamic on the Web is that 'promotional clout' alone does not go very far. Many of the newer, smaller community sites were started in response to a direct need. Oftentimes the larger companies set their online strategy based on revenue projections, not actually solving a problem for someone or enhancing their readers lives. - <a href="http://www.danblank.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Blank</a> Part of the new dynamic on the Web is that ‘promotional clout’ alone does not go very far. Many of the newer, smaller community sites were started in response to a direct need. Oftentimes the larger companies set their online strategy based on revenue projections, not actually solving a problem for someone or enhancing their readers lives.
- Dan Blank

]]> By: Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web » Blog Archive » Is it Too Late for Publishers? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136376 Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation and the Web » Blog Archive » Is it Too Late for Publishers? Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:08:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136376 [...] Jeff Jarvis feels that it may indeed be too late for many print brands to gain traction online: [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis feels that it may indeed be too late for many print brands to gain traction online: [...]

]]> By: Web9.0 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/09/18/out-of-time/#comment-136264 Web9.0 Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:12:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2042#comment-136264 Why is it that those who tout the web2.0 mantra of edge content moderate their blogs and censor any contra-comment? Umair Haque: “Comment moderation has been enabled. All comments must be approved by the blog author.” Stowe Boyd: “Comment moderation is on” Why is it that those who tout the web2.0 mantra of edge content moderate their blogs and censor any contra-comment?

Umair Haque: “Comment moderation has been enabled. All comments must be approved by the blog author.”

Stowe Boyd: “Comment moderation is on”

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