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		<title>By: TechCrunch Gets into Copy and Paste Press Release Journalism : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-377962</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Gets into Copy and Paste Press Release Journalism : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington, who once, without evidence, claimed that a New York Times article favorable to a startup in competition with a startup he had invested [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jakob</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-355007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what I expected to find out after reading the title ONA: A lesson in journalism. Thanks for informative article</description>
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		<title>By: New Rules Fly in Our Face &#171; Movin&#8217; Ahead</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-347229</link>
		<dc:creator>New Rules Fly in Our Face &#171; Movin&#8217; Ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arrington has received plenty of criticism about conflicts of interest in his tech news blog TechCrunch about &#8220;insider information and conflicts of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Dickerson&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Knight New Media Center workshop: future of newspapers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Dickerson&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Knight New Media Center workshop: future of newspapers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m going into this workshop hoping to offer some useful advice, not to deliver the usual Silicon Valley &#8220;newspapers are screwed, prepare to be disintermediated&#8221; spiel (that&#8217;s been done before, many times.) Despite some serious challenges, I think newspapers can have a bright future if they have the courage to make some adjustments. We&#8217;re in an era where anyone can play &#8212; including newspapers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m going into this workshop hoping to offer some useful advice, not to deliver the usual Silicon Valley &#8220;newspapers are screwed, prepare to be disintermediated&#8221; spiel (that&#8217;s been done before, many times.) Despite some serious challenges, I think newspapers can have a bright future if they have the courage to make some adjustments. We&#8217;re in an era where anyone can play &#8212; including newspapers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Little big man</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-233627</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Little big man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fabrications? Them&#8217;s fighting words, big fella. But I have the DVD and plenty of reliable witnesses to Arrington&#8217;s meltown and effort to bully The New York Times, which ended with The Times demanding and getting a sheepish apology from him. As I said here, bullies always back down. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fabrications? Them&#8217;s fighting words, big fella. But I have the DVD and plenty of reliable witnesses to Arrington&#8217;s meltown and effort to bully The New York Times, which ended with The Times demanding and getting a sheepish apology from him. As I said here, bullies always back down. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Mike &#8212; chill out, dude &#187; Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com/work</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-232455</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey Mike &#8212; chill out, dude &#187; Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Nick Denton at Valleywag points out, the discussion of the New York Times adding social-bookmarking links to its stories &#8212; which TechCrunch described as &#8220;surrendering&#8221; to social news &#8212; degenerates into some name-calling by Mike about news consultant Jeff Jarvis of Buzzmachine and Rafat Ali of PaidContent, amid what appears to be some deep-seated anger at the Times (likely in part because of this). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As Nick Denton at Valleywag points out, the discussion of the New York Times adding social-bookmarking links to its stories &#8212; which TechCrunch described as &#8220;surrendering&#8221; to social news &#8212; degenerates into some name-calling by Mike about news consultant Jeff Jarvis of Buzzmachine and Rafat Ali of PaidContent, amid what appears to be some deep-seated anger at the Times (likely in part because of this). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gerdass</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-216740</link>
		<dc:creator>gerdass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Social Media Club &#187; Talking About Disclosure - A Social Media Club Roundtable</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-172969</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media Club &#187; Talking About Disclosure - A Social Media Club Roundtable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My newfound emphasis on the topic of disclosure, however, came from my friend Mike Arrington&#8217;s little dustup with traditional journalists at the Online News Association conference which Jeff Jarvis writes about here and Mike writes about here. The subsequent post by Nicholas Carr called &#8216;A glass house&#8216; really struck a deep chord with me. I know Mike and I don&#8217;t believe he is purposely trying to deceive anyone, but he does have a competitive streak and many other interests across the Web 2.0 landscape which puts him in a precarious position. From my discussions with many people, there are no truly easy ways to make disclosures and there is no standard accepted practices for how to disclose and when to disclose. As I have consulted my clients over the years, it is often the perception of impropriety that is the problem not the actions themselves. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My newfound emphasis on the topic of disclosure, however, came from my friend Mike Arrington&#8217;s little dustup with traditional journalists at the Online News Association conference which Jeff Jarvis writes about here and Mike writes about here. The subsequent post by Nicholas Carr called &#8216;A glass house&#8216; really struck a deep chord with me. I know Mike and I don&#8217;t believe he is purposely trying to deceive anyone, but he does have a competitive streak and many other interests across the Web 2.0 landscape which puts him in a precarious position. From my discussions with many people, there are no truly easy ways to make disclosures and there is no standard accepted practices for how to disclose and when to disclose. As I have consulted my clients over the years, it is often the perception of impropriety that is the problem not the actions themselves. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Independent journalist as brand</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-160545</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Independent journalist as brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And as everybody needs to learn, credibility, reputation, trust, and value &#8212; that is, brand &#8212; is not something you own but something you earn. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And as everybody needs to learn, credibility, reputation, trust, and value &#8212; that is, brand &#8212; is not something you own but something you earn. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Teaching Online Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-159405</link>
		<dc:creator>Teaching Online Journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Good and bad at ONA conference&lt;/strong&gt;

Adrian Holovaty spoke (always worth hearing). Other good folks on the panel too. I was off at another session listening to the solo mojos.</description>
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<p>Adrian Holovaty spoke (always worth hearing). Other good folks on the panel too. I was off at another session listening to the solo mojos.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-158413</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Youth" panels are always about what "age" thinks it doesn't get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Youth&#8221; panels are always about what &#8220;age&#8221; thinks it doesn&#8217;t get.</p>
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		<title>By: A Friend in Every City &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Journalism develops with some storming and some performing</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Friend in Every City &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Online Journalism develops with some storming and some performing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All is not as smooth as it seems. Jeff Jarvis, in his blog BuzzMachine, reports a clash of cultures at an otherwise harmonious ONA event last week. At a panel session about new frontiers in technology and news involving Mike Davidson of Newsvine (doing very interesting work in reputation systems notes Jarvis), Michael Arrington of TechCrunch (who broke the news about Google&#8217;s talks with YouTube last Friday), and  Adam Yamaguchi of Current, &#8220;Arrington launched attacks on news media, contending that journalists will be losing their jobs and that reporters are fools if they don&#8217;t quit and start blogs.&#8221; Jarvis continues, &#8220;He then tried to sucker-punch  The New York Times, arguing that the only reason the paper could have written a favorable story about the startup  Inform was if the reporter or editor had ties, financial or otherwise, with the firm. I challenged him immediately, saying that this is a grave charge and that he clearly had no facts to back it up; he said as much.&#8221; Far from withdrawing, &#8220;It didn&#8217;t stop him. He repeated this attack, among others, on The Times. It was most uncomfortable, even embarrassing. I couldn&#8217;t sit there letting his attacks go unchallenged&#8221;. - Jarvis points to what he calls &#8220;the stinky-cheese irony of this&#8221;. &#8220;Even as he tried to cast aspersions on The Times, he only succeeded in shooting his own credibility â€” and with it, likely, the credibility of fellow bloggers â€” in the foot.&#8221;  Arrington, of course, sees it differently. It was, he feels, not a good experience for him. - &#8220;I also made some points about journalism in general after a few defensive flurries were sent my way. First, that most mainstream media isn&#8217;t interesting to me because they report news so late. By the time something hits the New York Times, it&#8217;s usually at least a day old in the blogosphere. Second, I was discouraged by the fact that there is no discussion in mainstream media. Publications never cite their competition, and readers cannot say what they think (as they can with blog comments). And third, I encouraged journalists who were stuck in the big media machine, with their career going nowhere, to consider blogging as an alternative (I was also going to say that I was hiring, and for people to contact me, but I never was able to say that). I also called out the New York Times in particular - their recent launch of an offline new reader showed that they don&#8217;t get what consumers really want, I said. And I also said that many of the fluff pieces in the Times technology section must either be generated from back scratching, or lack of understanding of the product. None of this went over well at all.&#8221; He remains unapologetic &#8220;Will I do this again if invited? Yes. But I will make sure that I prepare my statements in light of the fact that mainstream media is not prepared to discuss their shortcomings. That&#8217;s the path that other new media representatives took at the conference, and is obviously the way to win the game. Tell them what they want to hear, even as they lie dying on the hospital bed.&#8221; - [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All is not as smooth as it seems. Jeff Jarvis, in his blog BuzzMachine, reports a clash of cultures at an otherwise harmonious ONA event last week. At a panel session about new frontiers in technology and news involving Mike Davidson of Newsvine (doing very interesting work in reputation systems notes Jarvis), Michael Arrington of TechCrunch (who broke the news about Google&#8217;s talks with YouTube last Friday), and  Adam Yamaguchi of Current, &#8220;Arrington launched attacks on news media, contending that journalists will be losing their jobs and that reporters are fools if they don&#8217;t quit and start blogs.&#8221; Jarvis continues, &#8220;He then tried to sucker-punch  The New York Times, arguing that the only reason the paper could have written a favorable story about the startup  Inform was if the reporter or editor had ties, financial or otherwise, with the firm. I challenged him immediately, saying that this is a grave charge and that he clearly had no facts to back it up; he said as much.&#8221; Far from withdrawing, &#8220;It didn&#8217;t stop him. He repeated this attack, among others, on The Times. It was most uncomfortable, even embarrassing. I couldn&#8217;t sit there letting his attacks go unchallenged&#8221;. - Jarvis points to what he calls &#8220;the stinky-cheese irony of this&#8221;. &#8220;Even as he tried to cast aspersions on The Times, he only succeeded in shooting his own credibility â€” and with it, likely, the credibility of fellow bloggers â€” in the foot.&#8221;  Arrington, of course, sees it differently. It was, he feels, not a good experience for him. - &#8220;I also made some points about journalism in general after a few defensive flurries were sent my way. First, that most mainstream media isn&#8217;t interesting to me because they report news so late. By the time something hits the New York Times, it&#8217;s usually at least a day old in the blogosphere. Second, I was discouraged by the fact that there is no discussion in mainstream media. Publications never cite their competition, and readers cannot say what they think (as they can with blog comments). And third, I encouraged journalists who were stuck in the big media machine, with their career going nowhere, to consider blogging as an alternative (I was also going to say that I was hiring, and for people to contact me, but I never was able to say that). I also called out the New York Times in particular - their recent launch of an offline new reader showed that they don&#8217;t get what consumers really want, I said. And I also said that many of the fluff pieces in the Times technology section must either be generated from back scratching, or lack of understanding of the product. None of this went over well at all.&#8221; He remains unapologetic &#8220;Will I do this again if invited? Yes. But I will make sure that I prepare my statements in light of the fact that mainstream media is not prepared to discuss their shortcomings. That&#8217;s the path that other new media representatives took at the conference, and is obviously the way to win the game. Tell them what they want to hear, even as they lie dying on the hospital bed.&#8221; - [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alan macleese</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-158259</link>
		<dc:creator>alan macleese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice in some posts about the war of the proses  that bloggers are dfined as amateurs and MSM worthies as "pros"  and this distinction seems to be accepted by some without a murmur. Who in these ranks has checked the handicaps of all the bloggers running loose without let or hindrance?  Are they all duffers? And isn't kinda documented that half the bloggers extant used to be anonymous newspaper wretches? And grudgingly consider pros, at least by the more charitable of their peers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice in some posts about the war of the proses  that bloggers are dfined as amateurs and MSM worthies as &#8220;pros&#8221;  and this distinction seems to be accepted by some without a murmur. Who in these ranks has checked the handicaps of all the bloggers running loose without let or hindrance?  Are they all duffers? And isn&#8217;t kinda documented that half the bloggers extant used to be anonymous newspaper wretches? And grudgingly consider pros, at least by the more charitable of their peers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-158198</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Being provocative' isn't uncommon as an excuse for offensive behavior, usually when it hasn't made the desired effect.  I just listened yesterday to a pollster saying Democrats chose Santorum as an object for attention because he was a polarizing person.  

Sort of avoids the issues underlying debate, doesn't it.  When those issues are weak, they need the help.  I suspect if he'd been on firm ground, Arrington would have stood on it.  NYT as an object of attack kind of avoids the fact that it didn't get to be a contender because of namby pamby or sloppy handling of the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Being provocative&#8217; isn&#8217;t uncommon as an excuse for offensive behavior, usually when it hasn&#8217;t made the desired effect.  I just listened yesterday to a pollster saying Democrats chose Santorum as an object for attention because he was a polarizing person.  </p>
<p>Sort of avoids the issues underlying debate, doesn&#8217;t it.  When those issues are weak, they need the help.  I suspect if he&#8217;d been on firm ground, Arrington would have stood on it.  NYT as an object of attack kind of avoids the fact that it didn&#8217;t get to be a contender because of namby pamby or sloppy handling of the news.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» ONA: A lesson in journalism at blackrimglasses.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» ONA: A lesson in journalism at blackrimglasses.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» ONA: A lesson in journalism: I&#8217;m all for the degrading of traditional media to the extent that it has to adapt, but I agree as well that the approach Michael took is perhaps not the best. However, I will say that I might have done the same thing. I think the more productive stance however is to reduce both blogging and traditional news writing down to its core components. Reductivism is often a good way to figure out where the root of issues lie and reconstruct from there to build something that is mutually beneficial. You know who did this? TechMeme. To a lesser extent (because it trusts the wisdom of crowds too unilaterally), Digg. That&#8217;s my opinion on the matter, for what its worth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» ONA: A lesson in journalism: I&#8217;m all for the degrading of traditional media to the extent that it has to adapt, but I agree as well that the approach Michael took is perhaps not the best. However, I will say that I might have done the same thing. I think the more productive stance however is to reduce both blogging and traditional news writing down to its core components. Reductivism is often a good way to figure out where the root of issues lie and reconstruct from there to build something that is mutually beneficial. You know who did this? TechMeme. To a lesser extent (because it trusts the wisdom of crowds too unilaterally), Digg. That&#8217;s my opinion on the matter, for what its worth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janko Roettgers</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157978</link>
		<dc:creator>Janko Roettgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youth panels can be very enlightening. But it really depends on who is up there and how they got there. I've been at Hollywood events where the so called youth panel was featuring a bunch of 20somethings that wanted to get a job in the entertainment industry. Predictably, they did't have much to say.

But then again, it was very telling that Hollywood thinks of 20somethings as youth ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youth panels can be very enlightening. But it really depends on who is up there and how they got there. I&#8217;ve been at Hollywood events where the so called youth panel was featuring a bunch of 20somethings that wanted to get a job in the entertainment industry. Predictably, they did&#8217;t have much to say.</p>
<p>But then again, it was very telling that Hollywood thinks of 20somethings as youth &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Throwing punches from the future at the past at FactoryCity</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157946</link>
		<dc:creator>Throwing punches from the future at the past at FactoryCity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Jarvis says the way to win is to commit better journalism than [journalists] do. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As Jarvis says the way to win is to commit better journalism than [journalists] do. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rockwell</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157910</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond the discussion of Arrington's effect on the last ONA panel, I'm glad you mentioned the youth panel.  I've been saying for years that folks in the TV business need to rethink what they are doing.  But sadly, because they still see themselves as the kings of the media world, they keep churning out the same cheap news and information products, or cutting back on the quality products they have.  The new generation is telling us appointment television is dead, unless you give them something worthy of that appointment.  Thanks for taking note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond the discussion of Arrington&#8217;s effect on the last ONA panel, I&#8217;m glad you mentioned the youth panel.  I&#8217;ve been saying for years that folks in the TV business need to rethink what they are doing.  But sadly, because they still see themselves as the kings of the media world, they keep churning out the same cheap news and information products, or cutting back on the quality products they have.  The new generation is telling us appointment television is dead, unless you give them something worthy of that appointment.  Thanks for taking note.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Even more tons of Links - Columbus Day</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157771</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Even more tons of Links - Columbus Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tara embraces Chaos, poor Micahel Arrington had a bad weekendÂ and Jeff Jarvis has a different angle on what happened, Ashish got a plug from Dina Mehta while Jason Calacanis doesn&#8217;t think I&#8217;m one of those &#8217;smart people&#8217;.Â   Â  But that&#8217;s OK - cause I know Jason is paying bloggers to blog - so I get to say &#8220;I told you so&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tara embraces Chaos, poor Micahel Arrington had a bad weekendÂ and Jeff Jarvis has a different angle on what happened, Ashish got a plug from Dina Mehta while Jason Calacanis doesn&#8217;t think I&#8217;m one of those &#8217;smart people&#8217;.Â   Â  But that&#8217;s OK - cause I know Jason is paying bloggers to blog - so I get to say &#8220;I told you so&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lopez</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrington, with his sensationalist language ("provocative" seems the wrong word as it denotes something that would make one think about an issue), makes Geraldo look like an Edward R. Murrow award winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrington, with his sensationalist language (&#8221;provocative&#8221; seems the wrong word as it denotes something that would make one think about an issue), makes Geraldo look like an Edward R. Murrow award winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick B</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157693</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your last 'graph!</description>
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		<title>By: Scripting News for 10/9/2006 &#171; Scripting News Annex</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157660</link>
		<dc:creator>Scripting News for 10/9/2006 &#171; Scripting News Annex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I agree with Jarvis that nothing is accomplished by prolonging the animosity between bloggers and pros. There was a time when the bloggers wouldn&#8217;t throw any punches, I&#8217;m sorry that this time, apparently (I wasn&#8217;t there) it was a blogger that provoked the fight. We all can do better, that is inclusive of both pros and amateurs. &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I agree with Jarvis that nothing is accomplished by prolonging the animosity between bloggers and pros. There was a time when the bloggers wouldn&#8217;t throw any punches, I&#8217;m sorry that this time, apparently (I wasn&#8217;t there) it was a blogger that provoked the fight. We all can do better, that is inclusive of both pros and amateurs. &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is Michael Arrington a Jerk? - Webfeed Central</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157642</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Michael Arrington a Jerk? - Webfeed Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This morning, one of the first posts that caught my attention was Jeff Jarvis, talking about a lesson in journalism. As I read what Jeff wrote, I thought to myself, &#8220;yep&#8230; that&#8217;s what you should have expected from Michael&#8221;. After I read what Jeff had to say, I headed over to Michael&#8217;s Crunch Notes and read his side of what happened. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This morning, one of the first posts that caught my attention was Jeff Jarvis, talking about a lesson in journalism. As I read what Jeff wrote, I thought to myself, &#8220;yep&#8230; that&#8217;s what you should have expected from Michael&#8221;. After I read what Jeff had to say, I headed over to Michael&#8217;s Crunch Notes and read his side of what happened. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechCrunch gets eaten alive at the ONA</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157637</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Inkling &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TechCrunch gets eaten alive at the ONA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis&#8217; take on the panel: &#8220;The stinky-cheese irony of this is, of course, that even as he tried to cast aspersions on The Times, he only succeeded in shooting his own credibility â€” and with it, likely, the credibility of fellow bloggers â€” in the foot.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis&#8217; take on the panel: &#8220;The stinky-cheese irony of this is, of course, that even as he tried to cast aspersions on The Times, he only succeeded in shooting his own credibility â€” and with it, likely, the credibility of fellow bloggers â€” in the foot.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La Shawn Barber&#8217;s Corner &#187; New Media Power</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/09/ona-a-lesson-in-journalism/#comment-157633</link>
		<dc:creator>La Shawn Barber&#8217;s Corner &#187; New Media Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journalist and blogger Jeff Jarvis (and here and here) said this year&#8217;s ONA conference was an improvement over last year&#8217;s, where he heard &#8220;a lot of resistance to change and blogs.&#8221; Jeff frequently blogs about the convergence of new and old media and old media&#8217;s resistance to it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journalist and blogger Jeff Jarvis (and here and here) said this year&#8217;s ONA conference was an improvement over last year&#8217;s, where he heard &#8220;a lot of resistance to change and blogs.&#8221; Jeff frequently blogs about the convergence of new and old media and old media&#8217;s resistance to it. [...]</p>
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