Comments on: Shoot the geeks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:20:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Julian Morrison http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162958 Julian Morrison Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:18:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162958 I can stream on Linux with mplayer, which may also exist on OS X. However, you may be seeing the result of a server-side glitch: 18DS tends to transmit absolutely nothing, rather than a holding pattern, when they're not transmitting content. When i tried to stream before the show began i got the same symptom, a second of bzzk! and the stream stopped. I can stream on Linux with mplayer, which may also exist on OS X. However, you may be seeing the result of a server-side glitch: 18DS tends to transmit absolutely nothing, rather than a holding pattern, when they’re not transmitting content. When i tried to stream before the show began i got the same symptom, a second of bzzk! and the stream stopped.

]]> By: Francis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162810 Francis Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:03:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162810 The streams seem to require Microsoft Media Player - ideally embedded in your browser. This rules me out since for a whole variaty of technical, security, DRM-allergic and basic hate microsoft reasons I have the most minimal media player I can get away with and I refuse to let that unreliable insecure piece of junk run anything automatically in my browser anyway. Mind you I don't know that that is the case for sure because there is no technical FAQ that might help explain whether or not that is the case, but seeing as what I'm being asked to look at is a video/x-ms-wmx one that seems pretty certain to be the case. I wouldn't have thought it would be too much trouble to dig up an alternative (almost any alternative) streaming platform so that there would be a couple of ways to view content. The streams seem to require Microsoft Media Player – ideally embedded in your browser. This rules me out since for a whole variaty of technical, security, DRM-allergic and basic hate microsoft reasons I have the most minimal media player I can get away with and I refuse to let that unreliable insecure piece of junk run anything automatically in my browser anyway.

Mind you I don’t know that that is the case for sure because there is no technical FAQ that might help explain whether or not that is the case, but seeing as what I’m being asked to look at is a video/x-ms-wmx one that seems pretty certain to be the case.

I wouldn’t have thought it would be too much trouble to dig up an alternative (almost any alternative) streaming platform so that there would be a couple of ways to view content.

]]> By: iain dale http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162600 iain dale Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:15:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162600 As Tim W helpfully points out, I missed out a Y in my email address. It's iain AT 18doughtystreet DOT com As Tim W helpfully points out, I missed out a Y in my email address. It’s iain AT 18doughtystreet DOT com

]]> By: Tim Worstall http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162590 Tim Worstall Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:06:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162590 <strong>18 Doughty Street</strong> Now this is of course a terribly minor glitch in a brave adventure and from what I hear the programmes aren't too bad. However, Jeff Jarvis is getting pretty frustrated at not being able to watch on his Mac. OK, 18 Doughty Street

Now this is of course a terribly minor glitch in a brave adventure and from what I hear the programmes aren’t too bad. However, Jeff Jarvis is getting pretty frustrated at not being able to watch on his Mac. OK,

]]> By: jvon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162471 jvon Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:03:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162471 Live streaming works fine here (XP Pro). Streaming of old content does not; for some reason it causes WinAmp to launch, which has no idea what to do with the file. Personally I do not fiddle with the config of my desktop machine to view websites as a matter of policy. If everyone did that, I'd spend all day fiddling. Live streaming works fine here (XP Pro). Streaming of old content does not; for some reason it causes WinAmp to launch, which has no idea what to do with the file.

Personally I do not fiddle with the config of my desktop machine to view websites as a matter of policy. If everyone did that, I’d spend all day fiddling.

]]> By: iain dale http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162430 iain dale Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:16:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-162430 Isn't it funny how virtually everyone else reports no problem in streaming the site? Have you ever thought it could be something to do with your computer, rather than at our end. Obviously when you start something like this there are always a few teething problems and we are sorting them out, but for 98% of people it seems to work fine. What email did you use? Send something to me at iain AT 18doughtstreet DOT com and I will get our technical people to look at it. Isn’t it funny how virtually everyone else reports no problem in streaming the site? Have you ever thought it could be something to do with your computer, rather than at our end. Obviously when you start something like this there are always a few teething problems and we are sorting them out, but for 98% of people it seems to work fine.

What email did you use? Send something to me at iain AT 18doughtstreet DOT com and I will get our technical people to look at it.

]]> By: Michael Rosenblum http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159640 Michael Rosenblum Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:00:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159640 Jeff I can see it here in Singapore, but it is probably better when you can't see it. the buildup was great, 100 cameras, cuting edge, webcasting. When I look at it, it is TERRIBLE! The content is TERRIBLE! It looks like BBC 1962. 22 year old in suits and ties in swivel chairs having endless boingly dead politcal discussions, all seemingly shot with fixed cameras and lit and put through a switcher. For webcast!! Talk about 'don't get it'. TERRIBLE! Better you can't download. Jeff
I can see it here in Singapore, but it is probably better when you can’t see it. the buildup was great, 100 cameras, cuting edge, webcasting.

When I look at it, it is TERRIBLE!

The content is TERRIBLE!

It looks like BBC 1962.

22 year old in suits and ties in swivel chairs having endless boingly dead politcal discussions, all seemingly shot with fixed cameras and lit and put through a switcher. For webcast!!

Talk about ‘don’t get it’.

TERRIBLE! Better you can’t download.

]]> By: KirkH http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159637 KirkH Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:00:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159637 Jeff, saw this and had to post this on your site. The backlash has begun. Have a look at this horrendous speech by P. Diddy about "buying" a channel on YouTube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=XLcPIolG_8E Now look at this unfamous person's reponse to his disturbing promotion. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ES6kSKGv7dA Her video stats: Views: 534,196 Comments: 2025 Favorited: 670 times Honors: 20 show That's street justice. Jeff, saw this and had to post this on your site. The backlash has begun. Have a look at this horrendous speech by P. Diddy about “buying” a channel on YouTube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XLcPIolG_8E

Now look at this unfamous person’s reponse to his disturbing promotion.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ES6kSKGv7dA

Her video stats:
Views: 534,196
Comments: 2025
Favorited: 670 times
Honors: 20 show

That’s street justice.

]]> By: PJ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159581 PJ Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:03:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159581 I just tried to watch live streaming of NHL games on Yahoo. It kept asking me to login and it re-booted the feed every few seconds before going black. If you have any windows users with XP, one option is to download Windows Media Player 11 beta 2: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/default.mspx Other users can try Media Player Classic, which is a catchall for a lot of different formats: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/media_player_classic.cfm Good luck. I just tried to watch live streaming of NHL games on Yahoo. It kept asking me to login and it re-booted the feed every few seconds before going black.

If you have any windows users with XP, one option is to download Windows Media Player 11 beta 2:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/default.mspx

Other users can try Media Player Classic, which is a catchall for a lot of different formats:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/media_player_classic.cfm

Good luck.

]]> By: KeithB http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159323 KeithB Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:01:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159323 I'm in Safari, I followed the link in your article, clicked on live feed on the 18 Doughty St site, and had video and sound in about 5 seconds - the geezer is going on about community policing and the prison issues. Pop up blocking is off, I'm on DSL from Orange in the UK, I do have the current flash player and the flip4mac plug in for quicktime installed. Hope you get your system sorted. I rather like the Web site - big bold text and clear links - but then I have no design sense at all according to the missus who is a designer. I’m in Safari, I followed the link in your article, clicked on live feed on the 18 Doughty St site, and had video and sound in about 5 seconds – the geezer is going on about community policing and the prison issues.

Pop up blocking is off, I’m on DSL from Orange in the UK, I do have the current flash player and the flip4mac plug in for quicktime installed. Hope you get your system sorted.

I rather like the Web site – big bold text and clear links – but then I have no design sense at all according to the missus who is a designer.

]]> By: Pauline Ashley-Wilkes http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159227 Pauline Ashley-Wilkes Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:50:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159227 Oh dear. That is the most butt-ugly site I've ever laid eyes on! Stick with those good 'ole southern gals of TrueGritz for a much better time. Oh dear. That is the most butt-ugly site I’ve ever laid eyes on! Stick with those good ‘ole southern gals of TrueGritz for a much better time.

]]> By: Kevin Marks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159203 Kevin Marks Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:30:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159203 Jeff, You set me off on a <a href="http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006/10/five-point-plan-to-save-us-from-crappy.html" rel="nofollow">rant about Flash video</a> too. Geeks can be bad, but to really screw things up you need marketers after lock-in. Jeff, You set me off on a rant about Flash video too.
Geeks can be bad, but to really screw things up you need marketers after lock-in.

]]> By: 18 Doughty Street » What The Blogs Say After The First Day http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159166 18 Doughty Street » What The Blogs Say After The First Day Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:27:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159166 [...] “I have been trying all day to watch 18 Doughty Street, the new British online political network. They have made this needlessly, stupidly complicated. Never put technology in the hands of pols. Damned disaster.” – BuzzMachine [...] [...] “I have been trying all day to watch 18 Doughty Street, the new British online political network. They have made this needlessly, stupidly complicated. Never put technology in the hands of pols. Damned disaster.” – BuzzMachine [...]

]]> By: leon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159114 leon Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:50:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159114 If that didn't float your boat perhaps this might be more to your liking: http://www.theknivesareout.com/ If that didn’t float your boat perhaps this might be more to your liking: http://www.theknivesareout.com/

]]> By: Thomas Knuewer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159018 Thomas Knuewer Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:22:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159018 The layout is a jungle - but the streaming works perfectly here in Germany, even though I'm behind a fire wall whicht is normally more solid than the chinese wall. The layout is a jungle – but the streaming works perfectly here in Germany, even though I’m behind a fire wall whicht is normally more solid than the chinese wall.

]]> By: Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Fluffy links October 11th 2006 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159000 Damien Mulley » Blog Archive » Fluffy links October 11th 2006 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:49:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-159000 [...] Jeff rips into 18 Doughty Street too. They made it hard to view. Bad idea. [...] [...] Jeff rips into 18 Doughty Street too. They made it hard to view. Bad idea. [...]

]]> By: RonP http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-158927 RonP Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:30:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-158927 the layout is hideous. i am not quite sure what they thought they were trying to achieve. the layout is hideous. i am not quite sure what they thought they were trying to achieve.

]]> By: Kevin Marks http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-158849 Kevin Marks Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:22:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/10/shoot-the-geeks/#comment-158849 The problem is them choosing Microsoft software, unlike every succesful hosting service. They should have just used an existing video hosting service. The problem is them choosing Microsoft software, unlike every succesful hosting service. They should have just used an existing video hosting service.

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